TLDR Brainstorming Red99's future and why Red is not Blue

[Stasis01]

I feel as though we are at 200 population now, there is interest in the box from newer players that see our community growing and see that there is a lot of fun to be had on PVP, plus a lot of old timers are returning to enter the end game now that it isn't completely cockblocked for an RMT scheme.

That being said I feel that our community is lacking in some key areas that would really be able to push us into the 500+ consistent player range. Some of these are -

- Economy, both lack of items and lack of plat circulating - essentially no economy.

- Twinks locking down hot spot EXP areas, thus working against our group EXP bonus and forcing them into griefing areas.

- Lack of access to PVP - we have PVP around KC which is the understood area to look for PVP, but it is over nothing, and is usually for no motive other than the PVP and therefore gets boring quickly, and has no depth to it.

- Lack of support classes for both leveling and end game camps.

- Lack of independent guilds that can operate with fewer numbers, and even fewer main support classes that are mostly going to go to one of the major guilds.

I believe if we allow 1 box it would allow for all of these things to improve, at the cost of very little.

Red is very different than Blue - Red would benefit greatly from having a 2nd box LEGIT.

Let me be very clear about this - the people that want to box are boxing, I am no rat, and will point no fingers on either side, but believe me this runs rampant among higher end players that use it for many functions - and I don't mean for PVP benefit, I mean for support classes, ports, buffs, leveling and end game content.

By allowing boxing on Red you allow independence in the form of mobility for PVP/camps, leveling in areas that are not overrun by twink griefers hoping to find other players to gain EXP bonus with plus allows for support classes for newer guilds that want to stay independent but can't get the required enchs/clerics to do that content.

Right now we don't have enough players, don't have enough support classes, and don't have enough of a community atmosphere to really get this ball rolling, therefore I am hoping GM's would consider this.

PS I am now in the "top" guild, have a PD robe and 6 level 60's with VP keys and BIS gear, and really gain nothing from boxing other than having more people playing, more camps being camped, more items and plat circulating, and more fun overall.

No one plays red to be part of this great community, and to work with the other players here - it's just not blue.

[Stasis01]

I would also like to add that I leveled 50-60 boxing Gaanon an Ogre sham, and Bamzal a Troll warrior on TZ on live during Kunark.

It. Is. Classic.

[heartbrand]

I think variance is what we need

[Gaffin 7.0]

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I think variance is what we need

[Stasis01]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think variance is what we need

I'm waiting to see if a new guild will become Nihilum, it's still too early to tell - but it's still a sound idea to prevent 1 guild from taking all, forever.

Maybe the thrill of keeping all targets down is over now though? We'll see.

[SamwiseRed]

Meh people already 2 box now. What do you think would happen if 2 boxing became legal? Do you really think they would stop at 2? Call it a slippery slope if you want but I firmly agree it'll lead to people abusing it.

Instead make friends. Sure it's convenient to do everything yourself but I don't think that was the classic vision.

[heartbrand]

There already is a new Nihilum, it's called Azrael.

[Stasis01]

It's been two weeks, Nihilum did it for 3 years. Burn out and time invested might take Azrael out after a month, in a couple months if it's the same I'd agree.

But Trakanon was up for 3 days? Naggy was up for days, VP was up for a few days etc.

I don't necessarily agree with you.

[SamwiseRed]

This also puts anyone who doesn't like boxing like myself at a major disadvantage thus you create a population less friendly to casuals than it already is.

[Stasis01]

Or is Trak still up hmmm. Did Holo do it last night? I don't think we did.