Is FAT exploiting Ring War for free Dains?

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you just think BDA would have killed dain. Nothing in BDA's track record supports this assumption. Which is why the other 2 raid parties down there were in position to pick up the dain as soon as you wiped.

So you assumed it was happening right away? you just automatically blame others rather than the more likely possibility that its a coding problem with the zone and the server is unable to handle the load? You admit to spreading the rumors from the start that someone else had to of desynced you?

The ring war is very doable atm with enough people. the FAT alliance actually allows them enough people to have a legitimate shot at completing it in its current incarnation. Just because BDA couldn't hope to do it the way it is, does not mean it is impossible.

That's how BDA got first dain kill in velious right? and I got first aegis of ice,by not being able to?

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

except the attempt the 2nd day got farther than the first day, therefore was an improvement. Still not seeing how actively attempting to finish an event is the same as just starting it to spawn the dain...

A shit without excess squirts is an improvement,but you are all clearly exploiting. you better pray GMs are just as thick skulled and mentally challenged as you.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean the 2 kills where you teamed up with Taken since forsaken asgard and rampage were suspended from it? that last one was really an impressive kill btw, how many times did you guys wipe?

Lol you talking about the one that spawned at like 4 AM or some shit? Where neither Taken (Members of ur alliance) nor BDA had enough online to do it alone? We've killed BDA as a solo guild I believe at least 2 times now. Including server first.

Still waiting to hear if Asgard has done it alone yet?

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol you talking about the one that spawned at like 4 AM or some shit? Where neither Taken (Members of ur alliance) nor BDA had enough online to do it alone? We've killed BDA as a solo guild I believe at least 2 times now. Including server first.

Still waiting to hear if Asgard has done it alone yet?

Killed Dain*

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many 10th rings does BDA have? better yet, what wave did you guys wipe on?

How many rings? 0 just like everyone else

What wave did we get to? Wave 3 just like everybody else

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you teamed up with another guild to get pixels yet you complain when other guilds do it?

how is that not hypocrisy again?

We don't make a habit of it. It's a very occasional thing and strictly during off-peak hours when 3/4 of our guild is asleep. Not even close to a legitimate comparison to FAT. Every dumb thing you say proves to me more and more that you really are Detoxx.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

BDA got the first dain kill because they didn't go after targets that everyone else chose to go after. Not that its a bad thing, but an uncontested kill when you are ready for the pull is apparently much easier than when your monk pulls dain because he is solo when no one is ready. You honestly don't think any of the 3 guilds in FAT could kill the dain when given as much time as they need?

I'm sorry that not everyone on this server can just 1 shot everything they attempt as a guild like BDA does. How many 10th rings does BDA have? better yet, what wave did you guys wipe on?

Everyone wipes on the same wave,and you act like people didn't have specific targets they all had planned out once velious launched ahead of time from beta. See,you are really grasping for straws

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean the 2 kills where you teamed up with Taken since forsaken asgard and rampage were suspended from it? that last one was really an impressive kill btw, how many times did you guys wipe?

I think they have 4 in total. Opening day(he might have been last big target up and the end of the night), another on a quake that also netted them a tormax(FA in northwing and Rampage as well), and 2 raid suspended (so no FA or Rampage)

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how BDA edited the no RNF posting from their guild charter now that a majority of their raids involve RNF threads.

Never ever ever ever has that been a BDA policy. I know because I wrote it.

Originally Posted by Dalven [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here are some observations from the 6 pages I've missed:
- Because chest isn't working today, Troll-guy is relying on BDA RnF c team for support

Dat M-F doe

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See, for one, nothing BDA kills is every easy for them, as proven with multiple velk wipes with over 30 people. Just because you have killed something in the past doesn't mean you are guaranteed to kill it again the next time it spawns.

patently false, but that's what forsaken does, lie

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think they have 4 in total. Opening day(he might have been last big target up and the end of the night), another on a quake that also netted them a tormax(FA in northwing and Rampage as well), and 2 raid suspended (so no FA or Rampage)

We had server first Dain and a not server first Tormax (that was like mid October) We kill stuff solo, sorry to rustle you.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The last war we lost on the 4th WL in the 3rd wave meaning if it hadn't gotten in, the named would have spawned to end the war.

So FAT wiped on 3rd wave BDA wiped on 3rd wave. Got it.

Did u know that BDA has been consciously holding off on doing Ring Wars cause we don't want to exploit a broken mechanic? I'd have to search it up but pretty sure Nilbog himself said that Dain isn't supposed to be spawning after failed wars. Walkin on thin ice imo.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by BillSmith [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So its ok when BDA does it, but FAT does it too much so its a problem?

We've done it.... Maybe 3-4 times since Vel launch? FAT does it 3 times that much per week. Valid comparison.