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[chadtwoke]

Originally Posted by Patriam1066 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LOL I'm actually glad I clicked

You actually have a point there, that was some petty "reporting"

Now compare that with what is being reported on Trump on a daily basis, and you'll not find much difference.

[mickmoranis]

The major difference is, 100% of the left think that their side is real news, while only 10% of the right watch fox news.

[AzzarTheGod]

im hittin licks watch the trunk do trix

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by AzzarTheGod [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

there is an argument between the US interest and the Chinese interest.

They are both afraid to destabilize the region due to South Korea's success, as well as China's relative success.

Its about the ideology of communism itself. Go ask Putin regarding the fall of communism in Russia and the rise of the Orthodox Church. He explains it perfectly. When communism dies, it leaves a tremendous vacuum. Russia was very fortunate to recover from such a change, and he credits the Orthodox Church for filling the vacuum.

Both China and the US are fearful of what the NK vacuum looks like after regime change. The threat of a failed state is a double-edged sword that cuts both ways. Libya and to a lesser extent Egypt are prime examples.

The Good Folks are desperately fighting against regime change in Syria because we have seen what happens when you create vacuums with unlegit forced transfers of power. Kim Dong needs to step down on his own and usher his country into a new way of life ala the Soviet Union. Military change in NK will only result in very bad things happening.

We have seen this exact thing in the past, however, with West and East Germany. Two states that have people with a shared identity and common history do a lot better merging than creating a new regime for the state out of whole cloth. If we were planning to simply take over Korea and set up a democracy -- no one would be taking any of this shit seriously -- that's a terrible idea. But we are basically just letting South Korea expand and Become one country with North Korea.

I'm not saying it would be easy for the Koreans -- but it shouldn't break our bank anymore than it did with Germany. Other security concerns related to China might scare us off course though. Especially since we aren't dealing with a particularly patient or passive premier right now in China. Unlike the United States however, 1 persons opinion only gets so far in China.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We have seen this exact thing in the past, however, with West and East Germany. Two states that have people with a shared identity and common history do a lot better merging than creating a new regime for the state out of whole cloth. If we were planning to simply take over Korea and set up a democracy -- no one would be taking any of this shit seriously -- that's a terrible idea. But we are basically just letting South Korea expand and Become one country with North Korea.

I'm not saying it would be easy for the Koreans -- but it shouldn't break our bank anymore than it did with Germany. Other security concerns related to China might scare us off course though. Especially since we aren't dealing with a particularly patient or passive premier right now in China. Unlike the United States however, 1 persons opinion only gets so far in China.

woke. the East-West German situation is a really great model. You had Russia (China), you had the US/Global interest, you had the desired transition of power occurring very late after the failure of the state. also had the same political paradigm involved.

we are indeed dealing with a modern china who wouldn't hestitate to cyberfuck us. And contrary to popular belief, the Iranian government proved you can do cyber attacks on critical infrastructure, cause damage to the entire country, and not have any repercussion.

People keep thinking about these physical weapons and that simply is not the threat China presents if relations sour. They can cause havoc that is technically untraceable to the country which committed the act, as the Iranian attacks proved under 0bama.

[Pokesan]

north korea is much further behind their neighbors and the world in education infrastructure and basic nutrition than soviet Germany ever was

if korea unified tomorrow the 2008 crash would be a sunny afternoon in comparison

[Raavak]

New book, "The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left", get it now before its sold out.

Goldberg also covered similar material in Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change.

[JurisDictum]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

New book, "The Big Lie: Exposing the Nazi Roots of the American Left", get it now before its sold out.

Goldberg also covered similar material in Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Change.

"contrary to what most people think, the Nazis were ardent socialists (hence the term “National socialism”). They believed in free health care and guaranteed jobs. They confiscated inherited wealth and spent vast sums on public education. They purged the church from public policy, promoted a new form of pagan spirituality, and inserted the authority of the state into every nook and cranny of daily life. The Nazis declared war on smoking, supported abortion, euthanasia, and gun control. They loathed the free market, provided generous pensions for the elderly, and maintained a strict racial quota system in their universities—where campus speech codes were all the rage. The Nazis led the world in organic farming and alternative medicine. Hitler was a strict vegetarian, and Himmler was an animal rights activist.

So the person writing the review clearly has no fucking idea what a socialist is. I don't read books written by people too stupid to see the difference between Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt.

[Raavak]

"Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt" were all socialists, though Roosevelt didn't force it upon a nation like the other two. Stalin was a globalist socialist, Hitler a nationalist socialist (what Nazi means), and Roosevelt was along the lines of a nationalist socialist, though that is an extremely long discussion. Their "sins", if you will, were somewhat unrelated to their political stances.

Both Dinesh D'Souza and Jonah Goldberg are highly respected among their peers, both on the left and the right. If you've got a higher degree, in journalism or politics especially, you undoubtedly have heard of both of these men. Snowflakes tend to hate them and call them stupid and racist, etc which makes for a good litmus test of political intelligence.

You can find really interesting debate by left wing ideologues on the several stances both these books take. In addition, these two pundits/philosphers are well published writers, though most their work is over the average person's head.

[Pokesan]

dinesh dsouza is trash