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Old 04-07-2018, 06:08 PM
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I mean, we can go right back to pointing to your wyvern trains in November/December, then you guys point right back at Bruize this week - or we can discuss real changes.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:13 PM
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You guys are unbelievable. Instead of breaking the rules and then making RNF threads about how it’s unfair and how unreasonable AM is and about how we need more rules.

Why


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Old 04-07-2018, 06:18 PM
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I love this "our wyvern trains happened only during off hours when nothing was in window and nothing had spawned and it's totally your fault for getting trained anyways" talking point AM is parroting now. We submitted multiple videos of live FTE'ers being trained, and all that came out of it was a few AM monks getting individual suspensions for the month of January. Here we are, AW trains a AM FTE with wyverns, and it's bloody murder.

Believe it or not, wyvern trains are going to keep happening. I'll gladly discuss options with anyone level-headed enough to come to up with ideas on how to remedy the inevitable issue.

I like Kluwen's idea. Come earn your reeeetox bux and tell me why it's dumb.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:20 PM
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I love this "our wyvern trains happened only during off hours when nothing was in window and nothing had spawned and it's totally your fault for getting trained anyways" talking point AM is parroting now. We submitted multiple videos of live FTE'ers being trained, and all that came out of it was a few AM monks getting individual suspensions for the month of January. Here we are, AW trains a AM FTE with wyverns, and it's bloody murder.

Believe it or not, wyvern trains are going to keep happening. I'll gladly discuss options with anyone level-headed enough to come to up with ideas on how to remedy the inevitable issue.

I like Kluwen's idea. Come earn your reeeetox bux and tell me why it's dumb.
Considering there is an entire 40+ page thread right now that proves awakened and it's leadership lies, requiring you to prove your claims seems like the logical next step. Notice how you keep repeating the same claims and yet have never bothered to provide support for them? That is you emulating your leadership which is the real problem.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:22 PM
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I love this "our wyvern trains happened only during off hours when nothing was in window and nothing had spawned and it's totally your fault for getting trained anyways" talking point AM is parroting now. We submitted multiple videos of live FTE'ers being trained, and all that came out of it was a few AM monks getting individual suspensions for the month of January. Here we are, AW trains a AM FTE with wyverns, and it's bloody murder.

Believe it or not, wyvern trains are going to keep happening. I'll gladly discuss options with anyone level-headed enough to come to up with ideas on how to remedy the inevitable issue.

I like Kluwen's idea. Come earn your reeeetox bux and tell me why it's dumb.
It’s not dumb. It’s a good idea, but it’s impossible to enforce without bind sight fraps on each other’s pullers. It makes the meta more complicated and rewards more BS fraps which is already dumb.

What will happen is FTE stalling.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:28 PM
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It’s not dumb. It’s a good idea, but it’s impossible to enforce without bind sight fraps on each other’s pullers. It makes the meta more complicated and rewards more BS fraps which is already dumb.

What will happen is FTE stalling.
Fair criticism - is the concern that opposing guilds will wait for pull teams to run to aary, then drop wyverns off at, say... eashen? My back of the napkin view of this is active FTE'ers are free to send secondary monks/etc up to Aary, other guild keeps secondary pullers at 4-way hub but can coth into dagarn ledge. I think stalling is a real issue, and in that case it becomes FFA where secondary pullers at the hub are then allowed to move up to try and get the pull.

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Old 04-07-2018, 06:45 PM
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It seems like it would be in both guilds best interests to fully rotate everything, the majority of targets are rotated already. Yet guilds are still being suspended at an alarming rate, Awakened is suspended a little over a 1/3rd the time these days, and this will likely catch up to Aftermath eventually as well.

Just gotta find a way to make Rogean and co. not hate you for rotating shit on their server.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:29 PM
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Its amazing how quick you morons start the: "no its impossible because YOU did this" and then the second moron comes along and say "we did this because you did that"... "We play clean, you are the cheater!" ... "No YOU ARE! Watch the fraps that doesnt show shit!" "No you watch it, and WATCH IT FAST BECAUSE I WANT THE MOB NOW!"

Thats exactly what i am trying to figure out with you guys help. HOW can we end this?

Stop pointing fingers at each other. We both want the same thing, fucking morons.

Btw, Casual guilds, scrublinngs... besides the usual "Lets rotate everything" What you guys feel we can do to fix this raid scene so more guilds can step up and come to play?

@Detoxx, calm down. Don't make me smack you.
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Old 04-07-2018, 07:36 PM
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Btw, Casual guilds, scrublinngs... besides the usual "Lets rotate everything" What you guys feel we can do to fix this raid scene so more guilds can step up and come to play?
Play nice policy with no leapfrogging as Rogean envisioned in the first place: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...light=leapfrog
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Old 04-07-2018, 09:06 PM
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Play nice policy with no leapfrogging as Rogean envisioned in the first place: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...light=leapfrog
I read that post, do you think this whole "First in force" would work? i mean, sounds to me way more complicated then what we got right now... take pictures of /who and with who engage first the trash mob towards the mob and allow that force a clear shot to it because they start to clear first? Sounds a lot harder then what we got right now... dunno. Care to elaborate how you think this would play out with the enviorement we got?
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