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Old 04-07-2018, 04:20 PM
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:36 PM
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Remember when it as like 4am, one of the triplets spawned, AW coth'd up an entire raid force, i ran a rogue up there, FTE'd the dragon, logged out. Cock block engaged

You guys had to wait 1 hr before you could engage so intead of waiting you logged.

Really wanna go back to 1 hr lockouts? There will be a fix to the wyvern issue, i dont have the answer but ive heard some good suggestions. 1hr lockouts isnt the fix.
Kluwen had the best idea: No secondary pullers beyond the hub without an active FTE.
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:43 PM
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Kluwen had the best idea: No secondary pullers beyond the hub without an active FTE.
Issue is, how do we know the FTE was droped? we need to dedicate someone to bindsight on the target? Also whats the punishment if someone enters north wing with active FTE? also what if a monk is flop, mob is non engage, you enter north wing, he re-engage the mob before you? You just DQ'ed since you enter the NTOV door?

Idk man, i feel like we should try and narrow down the the minimun interpretation possible... the idea is nice but i know it will be exploited/confuse in the heat of the moment.
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Old 04-07-2018, 05:40 PM
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Remember when it as like 4am, one of the triplets spawned, AW coth'd up an entire raid force, i ran a rogue up there, FTE'd the dragon, logged out. Cock block engaged

You guys had to wait 1 hr before you could engage so intead of waiting you logged.

Really wanna go back to 1 hr lockouts? There will be a fix to the wyvern issue, i dont have the answer but ive heard some good suggestions. 1hr lockouts isnt the fix.
I haven't heard any other fixes, care to share?
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It is not a server that allows you to just show up and press the "free loot" button, and it's not a server that rewards you for simply existing.
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Old 04-07-2018, 06:08 PM
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I haven't heard any other fixes, care to share?
And I haven't seen any problems. The issue right now is your guilds leadership and going back to FTE races isn't going to fix that problem.

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I mean, we can go right back to pointing to your wyvern trains in November/December, then you guys point right back at Bruize this week - or we can discuss real changes.
Funny, I don't see any videos here from November or December, I also don't see any in the other thread. Are you still bitching about the people who trained them when there wasn't even a target up let alone being pulled?
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:33 AM
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Lol at saying how rotated mobs aren't classic but endorses lockouts and mario kart everquest.

Just drop the classic argument, GMs did shit a bit different depending on server situation, deal with it.

The simplest solution is just enforce a bag limit on mobs, maybe 7 or 8 per 7 day. Some strategy comes into play, lesser mobs go to up and coming guilds, and you still have competition.

And please sirken, make certain areas like ToV exit / entrance no kill zones for boss mobs. Make these people earn pixels like the elders did.
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Old 04-08-2018, 12:17 PM
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Make these people earn pixels like the elders did.
Except all raiders want batphone 10min raids to collect pixels... Even by some of their own accounts a large portion of their guild only logs in for batphones

Part of the reason p99 raiding is so toxic is the bloat from all the raiders who don't even play on the server outside of raid logging. Few of them want to actually clear trash, many would if it meant getting all dragons in North, but none of them want to clear for 1 or 2 dragons. They want their easy mode raids that are done in a few minutes.

If the server staff made zone pulling against the rules you'd see a massive die off of these players

So they all agree to keep the status quo of zone pulls that can be botched and then risk petition quest
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