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Old 04-29-2019, 03:24 PM
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There was Blackened Iron in Rnlunnyeye before the revamp, I think it was just slightly heavier than banded?

I myself am gonna be rocking a Tentacle whip until I can get an Obsidian Flamberge or something
Yeah, I think I've seen the stats on that. Solid classic gear, but nothing out of whack with the rest of the classic items like the blackened alloy bastard sword would have been. I think the blackened iron bastard sword was a 20/47? Blackened alloy is basically Razing Sword of Skarlon available off a high 20's mob, it is a stand out item in the ALS economy by being available in someone's mid 20's and better than basically any other 2 hander until the high 40's.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:21 AM
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Anyone who thinks green is going to be an opportunity to level the playing field has no idea what they are talking about.

You know what leveled the playing field for EQ more than anything has ever before? TIME. Being in vanilla, kunark and velious for multiple years (i.e. P99 Blue) gave folks of all play levels the chance to catch up. Don't have lots of time to play? Don't have lots of time to raid? Need to take six years to get a char to lvl 60? Not a problem on Blue...you can still make it till the end game of your choice at your own pace.

Green won't be like that. There will be much more anxiety as folks scramble to win races knowing that the next expansion is coming. Green will be as bad and WORSE in terms of competition than blue ever was.

Add into that the amount of people that will be here now. When blue was in mid-vanilla there were only a few hundred of us on at peak time. We needed to have a global chat channel because the population was too low to support the game. AND, even with that low population, competition for some camps was fierce. Get ready boys. This isn't even footing, the hardcores are already planning their schedules to be on 24/7 in October. And there are many of them.

Now, don't get me wrong...I'm excited for Green. The reason, however, is that I actually love playing EQ. Playng fresh is more fun than playing on old server. Making new friends...joining new guilds...its going to be fun in a way that Blue just isn't for me anymore...but don't think its going to be "even footing"...the EQ pain gonna be real on green for folks who don't know how to deal with it.
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Old 04-28-2019, 11:27 AM
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They really should take advantage of the massive pent-up demand for a new server by launching with some sort of PvP ruleset. Teams would be amazing, or even if they just had some sort of level 50+ PvP enabled to allow guilds to dispute raid issues through direct combat (the fact that so many people describe the current raid scene as "competition" is hilarious to me, it would be like people describing the idiotic behavior of camping out overnight on the street outside of stores before Black Friday as "competitive shopping").

A lot of people are hesitant to try PvP but would grudgingly do so if it meant they got to start on a fresh server. And they would find it's not so bad, and actually adds a huge amount of additional flavor to EQ, in addition to naturally alleviating a lot of the bullsh*t that occurs with a bottleneck of high-end content.
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Old 04-29-2019, 11:21 AM
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They really should take advantage of the massive pent-up demand for a new server by launching with some sort of PvP ruleset. Teams would be amazing, or even if they just had some sort of level 50+ PvP enabled to allow guilds to dispute raid issues through direct combat (the fact that so many people describe the current raid scene as "competition" is hilarious to me, it would be like people describing the idiotic behavior of camping out overnight on the street outside of stores before Black Friday as "competitive shopping").

A lot of people are hesitant to try PvP but would grudgingly do so if it meant they got to start on a fresh server. And they would find it's not so bad, and actually adds a huge amount of additional flavor to EQ, in addition to naturally alleviating a lot of the bullsh*t that occurs with a bottleneck of high-end content.

I would love a racial PvP server (I played on Tallon Zek Kunark to PoP) but but with some balance changes from classic, imo.

There would also need to be a mechanism to stop cross-racial (especially light + dark races) guilds from dominating the server (see: Pandemonium guild from Tallon Zek). The gear and progression that was opened up for those guilds made it very difficult to have balanced guild vs guild PvP as one guild just entirely dominated the rest because they were not following racial pvp rules and could progress faster through raid content than the other guilds. Another problem in classic was that PvP was not well balanced (casters, druids especially, dominated). Although I havent played on Red to know to what degree PvP has been balanced. Maybe these issues have been and will be addressed?

However, by far the best thing about Tallon Zek was the dynamic that PvP brought to end-game raiding. By far one of the best aspects of racial PvP servers was having to actually fight another guild for the ability to kill a raid mob). And even at the micro level, to fight another player over a camp or for the ability to level in a dungeon (you had many evil and non=evil leveling areas). I was in an Iksar only guild (Ancient Blood) which did weekly PvP raids into LoIO, which was an absolute blast and led to some extremely fun battles. It really broke the monotony of the xp grind and brings a whole new dynamic to the game.

If green were made racial PvP with better/additional balance than classic, I would be there in a heartbeat.
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:01 PM
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People flocking to Karana so they can get their Langseax of the Wolves. Looking forward to it
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:10 PM
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any casual who thinks Green is not for them has things backwards as hell. who cares about guise/manastones? Seriously it doesn't matter

Running around zones that are full of other struggling players trying to carve out some xp here and there? that's what classic eq is about and should be a casual's dream
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:23 PM
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any casual who thinks Green is not for them has things backwards as hell. who cares about guise/manastones? Seriously it doesn't matter

Running around zones that are full of other struggling players trying to carve out some xp here and there? that's what classic eq is about and should be a casual's dream
Exactly correct. If this is why you play EQ then Green will be awesome.

If you are looking forward to Green because you think you're finally going to be able to farm your manastones you had better have your big boy pants on, because competition is going to be hard to impossible.

The big difference is that casuals on blue actually also got to max lvl and got their epics and even high end gear due to the extended time...which is appealing to most of the casuals I know.
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Old 05-02-2019, 01:25 AM
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any casual who thinks Green is not for them has things backwards as hell. who cares about guise/manastones? Seriously it doesn't matter

Running around zones that are full of other struggling players trying to carve out some xp here and there? that's what classic eq is about and should be a casual's dream

Im very casual, and the economy on Blue makes it meh for me - I have maybe 10k plat (in items) across a dozen characters

Recently started on Daybreak Mangler server to see what it was like, and it was glorious - just like the old days. That said, the QOL improvements really are nice, and Ill miss them on P99 Green (no weight coins, no corpse recovery being the two biggest)


Anyway, I am looking forward to my first cracked staff, my first pile of bone chips to try and sell, my first few CB belts to hand in myself as I need the armor and nobody can afford to buy for twinks
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Old 04-28-2019, 12:25 PM
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Anyone else recently make an alt and then read the front page and think... meh i'll wait for green...[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] wut do
Ya, quitting as well until Green and then ill play fulltime until it merges with Blue, then permanently quit. it's just not fun for me to get excited for a dungeon crawl and find the 30 shaman has a Vindi BP, the monk has a Fungi, the cleric is epic. mindless faceroll ensues and i feel like im playing Warcraft.

Pantheon should be out by then anyways. thanks for releasing Green, cant wait!!
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Old 04-28-2019, 01:59 PM
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The twinking exaggeration is off the charts. These people would have you think every single lowbie is running around with best in slot gear. Also, if you think people on Green are going to be low level and low geared for long you are in for a surprise. There are going to major power gaming going on. Classic is so mind numbingly easy. Going to be just like blue after a month with 1-2 guilds locking everything down and major farming going on.
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