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Old 07-28-2020, 03:59 PM
Widan Widan is offline
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Sure lemme get a 50 melee log in info.
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Old 07-28-2020, 04:22 PM
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Since it's classic you can probably do 2x caster pets + bard as well vs melee teams, although against other caster teams your pets gonna be CC'd.
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Old 07-28-2020, 06:49 PM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Shuriken_of_the_Tranquil

100 dmg/20 dly ranged

needs to be disallowed for this to be fair.. currently in classic shuriken without buffs hits for 271 dmg (give or take). You have obviously been trying to buy them for awhile and have quite a bit saved up for this "event" you planned. Being able to throw them on casters for 271 dmg every 1.5 seconds is not an even playing field.
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Old 07-30-2020, 09:50 AM
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https://wiki.project1999.com/Shuriken_of_the_Tranquil

100 dmg/20 dly ranged

needs to be disallowed for this to be fair.. currently in classic shuriken without buffs hits for 271 dmg (give or take). You have obviously been trying to buy them for awhile and have quite a bit saved up for this "event" you planned. Being able to throw them on casters for 271 dmg every 1.5 seconds is not an even playing field.
4 throws with shuriken and casters/healers are dead in 6 seconds. xD
OP has been collecting them for a while now, guess hes hungry for the loot reward the guilds donated to the event. Too bad he makes the rules too
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Old 07-30-2020, 12:10 PM
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In the interest of transparency, I'm going to answer some of the concerns here.

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Can we disallow Shuriken of the Tranquil? Pretty broken for any monks who have been hoarding them. Can toss in Throwing Boulders as well, but not nearly as strong as shuriken.
You are correct that I have Shurikens. You are unfortunately, not correct that I make the rules, since the rules are mostly virtual copy/pastes from the original ToT documents. However, there were several sticky issues that were brought up, including the use of Shuriken of the Tranquil and Throwing Boulders that I recused myself from. Instead, the decision to allow these (among other matters) was made by 4 representatives of the guilds who sponsored the event, including guilds that individuals criticizing these items are members of. They unanimously agreed to allow both items.

Even with that, the problem is that if I enter the tournament and place with Shurikens, it's a bad look regardless. So I will not be using them.

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But then its no fun when he cant get any phat lewtz!
I have personally donated more to the event than even the first place prize, including the Tink Bag. There is no way I can profit from winning this event, especially since prizes are split three ways.

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I feel like the best solution is the organizer should not be allowed to participate, it should be his sole job to run the event and be unbiased.

Especially since prizes are being donated by other guilds and it requires an entry fee.
It is unlikely that this type of event would be organized by someone who doesn't want to participate in it, given the time, energy and resources, and backroom work it takes. However, as safeguard, the event is being judged by reps from the sponsoring guilds, and as previously mentioned, the rules are almost all virtually from the original ToT document, or have been decided on by reps from the sponsoring guilds. I have tried to make this event as fair and open as practicable, in the hopes that it will show the desire for these type of events, so that eventually P99 staff can organize similar events themselves. I am confident that every decision going into this event can stand up to scrutiny.

I am more than happy to address any other genuine concerns, and have consistently done so in PMs either here, in-game, or on discord.
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Old 07-28-2020, 11:54 AM
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I'm interested in participating but lacking a team atm. 50/Shaman/Apollyus. Drop me a message here or on discord if you have a team in mind and could use a 3rd.

Discord: Apollyus (50 Shaman)#5350
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Old 07-28-2020, 12:14 PM
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Can we disallow Shuriken of the Tranquil? Pretty broken for any monks who have been hoarding them. Can toss in Throwing Boulders as well, but not nearly as strong as shuriken.
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Old 07-30-2020, 10:01 AM
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I feel like the best solution is the organizer should not be allowed to participate, it should be his sole job to run the event and be unbiased.

Especially since prizes are being donated by other guilds and it requires an entry fee.
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Old 07-30-2020, 10:03 AM
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I feel like the best solution is the organizer should not be allowed to participate, it should be his sole job to run the event and be unbiased.

Especially since prizes are being donated by other guilds and it requires an entry fee.
But then its no fun when he cant get any phat lewtz!
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Old 07-30-2020, 11:04 AM
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Throwing boulders ruined the rogue BOTB on red99. Made me glad my rogue wasn’t 60 yet for that event as a human. Has nothing to do with skill as no one has a shitload of those farmed for world pvp, and just farms them for these events. I don’t begrudge the players, the rule should disallow for such items in these events. It removes skill and strategy from the equation and twists the class into a 1 dimensional ranger that is somehow better than the ranged slot specialist.

Same goes for the shurikens. Perhaps even worse since most people can’t ever acquire these and it turns the class into a broken throwing weapon class for these specific events, instead of using actual melee combat.


These should fall under the same category as golem wands/instant clicks and be banned or this tournament is a joke.
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