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Old 12-28-2020, 02:43 PM
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I want to see a movie about these guys https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Workers_Party
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Old 12-28-2020, 03:20 PM
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What happened to Trump putting Hillary and Obama in jail over the last 4 years anyway? Oh - there wasn't a crime to charge them with? It was all propaganda? Weird.
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Old 12-28-2020, 04:31 PM
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Do you honestly believe this? Like for real? A free press? No a free press would report facts only. A propaganda machine does nothing for four years but censor voices they don't approve of and slander a president, usually with fake news and half truths.

There is a mountain of evidence. I don't understand why smooth brain lefties can't just tell the truth. None if you care about the rules or our constitution. You irrationally hate someone you have never met and want him gone by any means necessary. Including fraud and selling our country out.

This is your idea of freedom? January 6th can't get here fast enough. See you in D.C.
he's right, Trump never would have won if the BushClintonDemPentagon regime were legit authoritarian. Fact is, AMerican institution stronk. You have a red colored bug up your ass if you can't acknowledge the difference between a corrupt corporate press, whose profit motive won Don the election thanks to his SicKTasTiC entertaining mAyMays, and state media which woulda buried him.

Not really a leftie or righty point. The fact you boil it down suchly reveals the smoothness of your own B. Shake that moneymaker everythang a hat trick

PS electoral college has certified Biden's election. What are you expecting January 6? A coup? you are literally delusional, frothing at the mouth, replying to ppl not even engaging with your point to push your laughable psychosis. American institution too stronk for your garbage.
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Old 12-28-2020, 04:43 PM
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I think Thulian is probably just trolling though
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Old 12-28-2020, 05:39 PM
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They dont even know that communism means no private property. Thats the MAIN element of communism. Everything is owned by the state. All business, all property, and anything not nailed down. So how exactly is china "communist" when they allow people to have private property and own business' outside of the government control?

Can you even define communism...? Maybe tell us three or four of the main feature of communism which makes it different from socialism or marxism?? Anyone?

Yea. I didnt think you could, either.
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Old 12-28-2020, 06:02 PM
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They don't even know that communism means no private property. Thats the MAIN element of communism. Everything is owned by the state. All business, all property, and anything not nailed down. So how exactly is china "communist" when they allow people to have private property and own business' outside of the government control?

Can you even define communism...? Maybe tell us three or four of the main feature of communism which makes it different from socialism or marxism?? Anyone?

Yea. I didnt think you could, either.
First, you sound like you know the definition of Communism, but clearly, you have not done any basic research and are spewing. In China, they own their houses that sit on the land or have transferrable land rights. The Chinese government or collectives own the land and lease it to the people. That sounds communistic to me?

Next, Communism is a derivative or marxism.. so there is interrelation. But to cut to the chase, modern-day communism accomplishes the goal of dogmatic control (i.e., owning your property), by owning the businesses. If you look up China's largest companies, they are all either completely state-owned or partially state-owned. The Chinese government will also force the companies to allow their "party members" to sit on the board or in other pivotal roles.

Society, in general, has swung its pendulum towards capitalism, so there is no need for communist countries to own everyone's property. The goal of that is to keep people poor and submissive, correct? They do that now by controlling the way their businesses function and thus keeping a cap on their society. I will agree that this might not fall within the confines of the generic definition of communism, but it is clearly a modern-day expansion of that.

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Old 12-28-2020, 06:22 PM
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I will agree that this might not fall within the confines of the generic definition of communism, but it is clearly a modern-day expansion of that.

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So they put a cap on society and the heights they can reach, right?
https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-people

buh-but.. the cap.. You said they dont let people get rich... I didnt say "chinas largest companies" did I?? Learn to fucking read. I said every business. Any legal business will be state owned. Thats the whole "totalitarianism" part of communism. Its not communism if its not totalitarianism. Use the proper word, if you're going to use it. You just admitted that its not communism. Go pick up your little mic.
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Old 12-28-2020, 06:36 PM
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So they put a cap on society and the heights they can reach, right?
https://www.theguardian.com/business...richest-people

buh-but.. the cap.. You said they dont let people get rich... I didnt say "chinas largest companies" did I?? Learn to fucking read. I said every business. Any legal business will be state owned. Thats the whole "totalitarianism" part of communism. Its not communism if its not totalitarianism. Use the proper word, if you're going to use it. You just admitted that its not communism. Go pick up your little mic.
https://qz.com/1708662/chinese-tech-...y-us-official/

https://www.forbes.com/china-billionaires/list/

China owns the part of the companies, or at the very least, entrenches their state actors into the companies. Therefore, they decided who thrives and who doesn't. Thus deciding who is rich and who is not. I am not sure what you think you proved, but I will pick up my mic and carry on.
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Old 12-28-2020, 05:50 PM
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This post makes me sad. To think that we have people who think this poor journalist was jailed for reporting on a fake story in Wuhan – is absurd! China has a long history of incarcerating people who report on things they do not want them to, i.e., their government. Just google "China locks up Hong Kong journalist," and I am sure you will find two or three stories as of recent. They do this to stop other journalists from speaking out on stories that they want to keep hush, hush.
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Old 12-28-2020, 10:10 PM
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This post makes me sad. To think that we have people who think this poor journalist was jailed for reporting on a fake story in Wuhan – is absurd! China has a long history of incarcerating people who report on things they do not want them to, i.e., their government. Just google "China locks up Hong Kong journalist," and I am sure you will find two or three stories as of recent. They do this to stop other journalists from speaking out on stories that they want to keep hush, hush.
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