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Old 01-30-2022, 08:23 PM
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No one here is going to convince me that a parent shouldn’t have access to their kid’s lesson plan
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Yep

Gravy might be steaming pissed about this, but even the confidential counselor + kid professional relationship can be legally violated by a parent whenever they want. They are legally allowed to not only know what the counselor is talking to their kid about, but also to sit in on the counseling session

So to act like there is some important and sacred teacher + child confidentiality to protect the kids is ridiculous, because a parent can literally sit in on their kid’s counseling session to prevent a child from gathering the courage to tell their counselor that the parent physically abuses them. Pretty fucked up but that’s how it goes
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:32 PM
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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:41 PM
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LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans
What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:43 PM
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What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
Trans but the letters continue from there and I haven’t bothered to learn the new ones. Take out the B if we are going to add non-binary in the mix because B implies two things. Bi-pedal, two legs

That’s why I just do the LGBT, because more letters added to that just confuses me
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Old 01-30-2022, 10:29 PM
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What does the T stand for, mr old school? 😬
TrySexual as in I'll try anything.
Or, more correctly I dont care.
You cant accept others' weirdness (lets face it, its weird to wanna be called a paperclip or a poodle or gender non specific but whatev's) but expect everyone else to accept yours, weirdness that is.

You are weird to someone.
For any number of reasons.
You dont even need to understand or accept them.
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:43 PM
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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
It also could be that our society is much more understanding and liberal now a days with the internet and what not. Its OK to be gay, you dont have to wait til your 30 to come out these days. You should be able to say "maybe im gay" or whatever when you're in school and try that life style if you want to. I thought this was the land of the free. Like why not?

They would be alright with the QB of the football team fucking the prom queen but not if its two dudes or two girls. lol.. You're right that it is alot more common but thats because they wont get their heads caved in, put in jail, castrated, etc. At least not as much, but yeah. I dont think its a fad though. I think that people are curious and they will try things when given the opportunity. They dont face a huge social penalty for saying im bi or trans or whatever.

One more thing. We have NO IDEA what its like to go to school these days. I cant even imagine. I think we should be like culture shocked if we spent a day in a classroom. You think so?
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:51 PM
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It also could be that our society is much more understanding and liberal now a days with the internet and what not. Its OK to be gay, you dont have to wait til your 30 to come out these days. You should be able to say "maybe im gay" or whatever when you're in school and try that life style if you want to. I thought this was the land of the free. Like why not?

They would be alright with the QB of the football team fucking the prom queen but not if its two dudes or two girls. lol.. You're right that it is alot more common but thats because they wont get their heads caved in, put in jail, castrated, etc. At least not as much, but yeah. I dont think its a fad though. I think that people are curious and they will try things when given the opportunity. They dont face a huge social penalty for saying im bi or trans or whatever.

One more thing. We have NO IDEA what its like to go to school these days. I cant even imagine. I think we should be like culture shocked if we spent a day in a classroom. You think so?
Sure more acceptance plays a role but saying there is a cultural element driving it (and by cultural I mean among peers), and that it might be just a phase is not dismissing it, and is probably the best approach to take initially

It also happens to be the approach I see 99% of parents taking. They aren’t saying (at least not to me), “well Timmy said he’s a girl so let’s dose him up with some estrogen”, and they’re not saying “Timmy is going to hell and I don’t love him anymore because he said he was a girl”, either. They are sitting back, expecting it to be a phase, and letting it play out. Now this is what they say to professionals, maybe they are getting Timmy hormones or chastising him behind closed doors, I dunno what happens behind closed doors

I have only had to make one CPS report on a parent who didn’t accept his kids sexuality, and that was because it was a deadbeat parent who was also didn’t know where his kid was most of the time and spent most of the conversation with me insulting the kid. He’s probably lost custody a long time ago now. That’s it, that’s the only sexuality non-acceptance report I’ve made
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Old 01-30-2022, 08:54 PM
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No, people are possible of anything, it’s just not widespread in either case (terrorist parents or crazy propagandist teachers). And I don’t believe the conservative’s arguments that pornographic and gender-confusing material are being pushed by every public school. I don’t even believe that CRT is being pushed by many teachers because, for one, history really only pertains to a history or social studies class. Why the F would a math teacher be teaching CRT? And two, I just don’t think it is as common as conservatives are claiming. But I am not claiming to know everything about what schools are doing

I can only speak anecdotally, but like I said kids identifying as gender confused, non-binary, and trans is exploding and parents are incorrectly assuming they are getting these “ideas” from school. From actually taking to the kids who identify this way, yes it does seem to have a fad element and appears that is very likely to be just a phase for many of them, but the parents are wrong that the kids are getting it from their teachers. From the mouths of the kids, it spreads among friend groups. One kid hears about a friend identifying as trans or non-binary and they start doing the same. I’m assuming the original is probably getting it from online

Out of the hundreds of LGBT (call me old school but I stop the letters there), I have yet to have a kid mention they read about being non-binary or trans in a school book. And these are naive kids, they wouldn’t have the conceptualization to keep this info from adults for political purposes obviously
I think it mainly depends on the region. I don't think many conservatives think it's happening everywhere (though some are definitely overstating it), I think most are more concerned about the trajectory it's heading, even if it's only happening in a handful of schools in super liberal cities currently. The characterization of these parents by the media is what really gets me.
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I think it mainly depends on the region. I don't think many conservatives think it's happening everywhere (though some are definitely overstating it), I think most are more concerned about the trajectory it's heading, even if it's only happening in a handful of schools in super liberal cities currently. The characterization of these parents by the media is what really gets me.
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