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[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you spoken with someone who has had an abortion, or known them personally? I don't want to speak for the woman I know who has had one, but I feel like saying doing so made her feel special is wrong. It was not an easy decision, reportedly.

Love the sinner, hate the sin, after all

You absolutely do not have to convince me that having an abortion will make you feel worse, but that is not the way we culturally perceive it.

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[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by starkind [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So far G-d says no suicide. Make Satan kill you. That could change tho.

Yep God says no suiciding. Even slowly poisoning yourself. He sees that. 👀

[Horza]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So why do you think making it legal does?

It's simple if your argument is "it should be legal but we should culturally shun it" then why dont we culturally shun it since we made it illegal?

We consider abortion survivors to be victims that need empathy for christakes.

Because this sort of prohibition and shaming has totally been a resounding success in the war on drugs, you stupid motherfucker.

[Rethalis]

Originally Posted by Horza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because this sort of prohibition and shaming has totally been a resounding success in the war on drugs, you stupid motherfucker.

Go live close to a druggie camp in any west coast city for a couple of years and see if your singing the same tune.

[unsunghero]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep God says no suiciding. Even slowly poisoning yourself. He sees that. ��

The reason you will see civilized society resist allowing citizens to kill themselves with drugs or just kill themselves in general is the assumption that they are not in their right state of mind when making that decision

It’s not the same state of mind someone would be in if they were deciding what kind of car to buy. With drugs their mind is twisted by the physical and mental dependence causing severe chemical changes in their brain, and with suicide there can be a possibility of depression or some other mental illness warping their thoughts

So it’s not like moral people will ever throw their hands up and be like “adults should be free to choose with their autonomy!” They should be free to choose when in a healthy state of mind. Just like we don’t legally accept contracts that someone signs when under duress or intoxicated

[robayon]

Originally Posted by Jibartik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You absolutely do not have to convince me that having an abortion will make you feel worse, but that is not the way we culturally perceive it.

You dodged my question.

And don't mistake the opinions of paid liberal journalists who have to crank out articles with the hopes it goes viral on twitter for the entire zeitgeist. I don't like the status quo any more than you seem to, but your own beliefs are proof that not everybody buys that kind of hogwash, even if it's absolutely true for whoever they interviewed. Real life is a mess. Every direction, all at once, for every reason.

[starkind]

Originally Posted by Reiwa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yep God says no suiciding. Even slowly poisoning yourself. He sees that. ��

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G-d also sees I'm doing the best I can every day to hallow myself - or others - [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what is the opposite of poisoning - that's my MO

cleansing, purifying
dignifying, elevating, ennobling, enshrining, glorifying, hallowing, magnifying, uplifting

clarifying, cleaning, clearing, distilling, purging
filtering
disinfecting, sanitizing, sterilizing

decontaminating, purifying

ameliorating, amending, bettering, enhancing, enriching, improving, meliorating, perfecting
clarifying, cleaning, cleansing, purifying, refining, restoring
respecting

[starkind]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason you will see civilized society resist allowing citizens to kill themselves with drugs or just kill themselves in general is the assumption that they are not in their right state of mind when making that decision

It’s not the same state of mind someone would be in if they were deciding what kind of car to buy. With drugs their mind is twisted by the physical and mental dependence causing severe chemical changes in their brain, and with suicide there can be a possibility of depression or some other mental illness warping their thoughts

So it’s not like moral people will ever throw their hands up and be like “adults should be free to choose with their autonomy!” They should be free to choose when in a healthy state of mind. Just like we don’t legally accept contracts that someone signs when under duress or intoxicated

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[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by robayon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You dodged my question.

And don't mistake the opinions of paid liberal journalists who have to crank out articles with the hopes it goes viral on twitter for the entire zeitgeist. I don't like the status quo any more than you seem to, but your own beliefs are proof that not everybody buys that kind of hogwash, even if it's absolutely true for whoever they interviewed. Real life is a mess. Every direction, all at once, for every reason.

cuties on netflix.

[Kaveh]

Originally Posted by unsunghero [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The reason you will see civilized society resist allowing citizens to kill themselves with drugs or just kill themselves in general is the assumption that they are not in their right state of mind when making that decision

It’s not the same state of mind someone would be in if they were deciding what kind of car to buy. With drugs their mind is twisted by the physical and mental dependence causing severe chemical changes in their brain, and with suicide there can be a possibility of depression or some other mental illness warping their thoughts

So it’s not like moral people will ever throw their hands up and be like “adults should be free to choose with their autonomy!” They should be free to choose when in a healthy state of mind. Just like we don’t legally accept contracts that someone signs when under duress or intoxicated

I disagree man, we judge drug addicts and alcoholics but we do nothing to treat them. You can’t even hold a drug addict at a hospital against their will if they are alert and oriented and not professing suicidal ideation. It took years for me and my nephew (before he gave up) to get my brother in law into even some kind of treatment for prescription opioids. By that time he had lost everything

You literally have to sober up for 5 minutes and know your name, location, month, who the president is and say I’m not suicidal and they let you on your merry way to go hop behind the wheel with a handful of pills or whatever else, etc

We absolutely don’t care at all about addicts or the mentally ill in America