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Old 08-30-2022, 02:19 PM
cyxthryth cyxthryth is offline
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I didn't ignore the points at all
All I can do is re-state the facts in continued effort to attempt to continue the discussion(s) in a civil manner. The ball is in DSM's court.

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You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.

How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

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I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

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No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:20 PM
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I didn't ignore the points at all. You just say "google it", and assume that's it.

Here, I'll do it too. "Google it". Now we are equal. Except I have parses and you don't.
What many other posters here have is common sense. A trait which you unfortunately seem to lack. It works wonders in situations where data is incomplete/faulty or just not available. I think if you can work on developing this trait it could help you a lot.
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:21 PM
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I didn't ignore the points at all. You just say "google it", and assume that's it.

Here, I'll do it too. "Google it". Now we are equal. Except I have parses and you don't.
But what about all the other points where I asked for all the info about gear, level, buffs etc.? Are you going to provide that info for your parse?

How about I get a bunch of people on this thread to all throw a bunch of plat into a pot. Then we take a charmed pet and a warrior with basic gear, both unbuffed, and we do 100 kills on each. If you can out DPS the charmed pet, let's say 80% of the time, then you win the plat. Otherwise you have to pay an equal amount of plat to be divided up amongst the people on the other side. Would you take that bet?
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:23 PM
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What many other posters here have is common sense. A trait which you unfortunately seem to lack. It works wonders in situations where data is incomplete/faulty or just not available. I think if you can work on developing this trait it could help you a lot.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum is a fallacy, and not an argument.

It's funny how people keep thinking I am the only one who has to provide evidence here. So far I have given more in-game evidence than all of the people debating me combined.

Why don't you post a bit of data in response? If it's so easy to prove (and common sense), between the 8 or more of you this thread would have ended ages ago lol.

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But what about all the other points where I asked for all the info about gear, level, buffs etc.? Are you going to provide that info for your parse?

How about I get a bunch of people on this thread to all throw a bunch of plat into a pot. Then we take a charmed pet and a warrior with basic gear, both unbuffed, and we do 100 kills on each. If you can out DPS the charmed pet, let's say 80% of the time, then you win the plat. Otherwise you have to pay an equal amount of plat to be divided up amongst the people on the other side. Would you take that bet?
That would be great! Finally we could get some data instead of just people trolling lol. I don't care if I am right or wrong, I just want the correct information out there. Either outcome works great for me[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I won't hold my breath though, since the posters here generally seem to prefer trolling over actual data.
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:25 PM
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I just want the correct information out there. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
All I can do is re-state the facts in continued effort to attempt to continue the discussion(s) in a civil manner. The ball is in DSM's court.

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You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.

How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

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I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

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No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:28 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum is a fallacy, and not an argument.

It's funny how people keep thinking I am the only one who has to provide evidence here. So far I have given more in-game evidence than all of the people debating me combined.

Why don't you post a bit of data in response? If it's so easy to prove (and common sense), between the 8 or more of you this thread would have ended ages ago lol.



That would be great! Finally we could get some data instead of just people trolling lol. I don't care if I am right or wrong, I just want the correct information out there. Either outcome works great for me[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I won't hold my breath though, since the posters here generally seem to prefer trolling over actual data.
Ok if anyone on this thread would like to do that, PM me and we can all discuss parameters such as weapons etc.

In the meantime what about the info about your parse
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:28 PM
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Not really. I am debating like 8 people at a time. They are all wrong, and can't even individually stay on topic. They have to keep switching arguments to try and prove they are right. Post history is quite clear[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:28 PM
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I know you all want to clown on this dude but, surely it's not that hot of a take to say that at low levels a twinked melee character levels faster than a twinked caster character?

Fight this dude all you want about the shaman thing, I agree that mages can basically go catatonic and contribute a lot of dps to a group, but how the fuck anyone is suggesting a twinked melee character doesn't grind through the first ~25-30 levels faster than a caster seems insane. Melee has always had the advantage with gear early on.
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:29 PM
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Ok if anyone on this thread would like to do that, PM me and we can all discuss parameters such as weapons etc.

In the meantime what about the info about your parse
I already posted it hehe. People really just don't read much. I have a level 24 Gnome Warrior with Wurmslayer, Fist of Zek, and Silver Chitin Hand Wraps on in that parse. Pretty cheap gear to be honest.

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I know you all want to clown on this dude but, surely it's not that hot of a take to say that at low levels a twinked melee character levels faster than a twinked caster character?

Fight this dude all you want about the shaman thing, I agree that mages can basically go catatonic and contribute a lot of dps to a group, but how the fuck anyone is suggesting a twinked melee character doesn't grind through the first ~25-30 levels faster than a caster seems insane. Melee has always had the advantage with gear early on.
They just want to troll, it's really that simple.
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Old 08-30-2022, 02:30 PM
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it's really that simple.
All I can do is re-state the facts in continued effort to attempt to continue the discussion(s) in a civil manner. The ball is in DSM's court.

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You called me "silly" when you were backed into a corner by my replies to you on the below thread too, and you stopped replying (like a little bitch): https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...401629&page=37.

How's it going in that corner you've been backed into?

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I am maintaining civility in this discussion, and my position is founded on hard evidence. The only insults I throw are thrown in defense.

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No, you have not maintained civility in this discussion.

I have maintained civility in my posts to you - in which I have ONLY stated facts and asked questions - and despite my civility you have (repeatedly) called me a troll, called me silly, accused me of doing/posting things I have not done/posted, and meanwhile have continued to ignore my simple questions and avoided responding to the many facts I've stated. I present both of our posts - from this thread and elsewhere - as evidence of my civility, and you have provided no counterevidence despite me requesting you provide it (multiple times).

Why do you opt out of partaking in a civil discussion with me, and meanwhile claim that you are maintaining civility in this discussion (yet choose to continue to call me names for [seemingly] no reason)?


Why do you feel the need to "defend yourself" from any of the facts I have stated or questions I have asked?
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