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You guys are planning for Velious, Kunark just came out 7 months ago and VP isn't even released yet. Calm the hell down. Level a hybrid now, xp penalties were removed halfway after velious launch, you'd be able to level plenty before then.
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Great effort on that write up! Now, write one up on why they should add beastlords and vah shir.
It will be just as effective. Your post isn't original. It has been made before. Many times. I may have made one, I don't remember. That's how tired this argument is. The server has a purpose. Your suggestion is 100% against this purpose.
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#6
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FREE HOLISH TNOOPS
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#7
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Notice how I mentioned that changes happened between 1999 and 2001? Did those changes justify their statements in the producers letter in regards to the removal of class experience penalties? Might it have been true at one time that hybrids WERE overpowered? If so, they were being deceptive about it. But more than that, the fact that they saw an experience penalty as an effective balancing mechanism gives us a clue that they really never knew what they were doing. But, what happened after 2001? Read on...
They removed racial experience penalties on Sep 19 2006. If they removed the racial experience penalty in 2006, then what was their reasoning for doing so? Because we have an example here from around the 2000-01 timeframe where they justify racial experience penalties. What happened between 2000-01 and 2006 to change their mind? What I get from it is that they felt the faction penalties justified the bonuses for evil races. That is, in part, why they removed the experience penalty. But I'm not sure what the rest of the reasoning is. Before 2006, they also removed some of the other restrictions on evil races. I think they removed the no-plate armor restriction for Iksars during Velious. Iksars, originally, could only trade in Cabillis. When POP came out they could trade in POK. Their reasoning for removing these (and maybe others) may or may not be similar. But this also highlights that Sony is a company that doesn't really know how to do it right the first time. One year, they'll think one thing, the next, another. It's good to change when you need to: success is built on making mistakes. But if that becomes a habit then maybe you're making too many mistakes? But I do think the whole culture of EQ changed too. Generally, the game got sour and old. It started to feel like Microsoft Windows does. Bloated, a bit. One size fits all kind of feeling from it. I think the biggest thing was that they started moving their funding from EQ to EQ2 and to other games on their roster. This starved EQ of development resources. Just compare the number of zones in Kunark or Velious to later expansions. I'm not going to pretend. A lot of the changes did not agree with me. For example, I hated POK. POK felt like Walmart to me and still does. Defiant Armor and Old Man Mckenzie were just blatant mediocre excuses to level up low(er) level players. You could see this in a myriad of different things. Sony was not conspicuous about it. They had a warped sense of confidence. The quality of the game went down. Instead of giving players fun and expansive content, they'd just recycle some sh** and make an instance mission and have the players do it a couple hundred times. Instances avoided the overpopulation problem that open world zones have. What it amounts to is this: the changes they made reduced their development costs. Money was the driving force. They wanted to level up players, but they didn't have the money to do it RIGHT. That's the heart of it. Compare the content in EQ1 to EQ2. EQ2 has GOOD instances. EQ2 has a million things that EQ1 does not. By all accounts, EQ2 is a better game, right now and has been for the past several years. My point is that they shifted resources from EQ to other games. This, ultimately, made EQ a mediocre game doomed to die. The game that EQ became is nothing like hte game was between 1999 and 2001. The game in the old days was a world. There were many homecities and factions. There were boats and many zones and activity was everywhere. It requires a lot of money to keep it like that. Things felt whole. But as the years drifted by, EQ became like an old boat that no longer has a caretaker or somebody to maintain it. The boards started to rot. The sails were tearing. The crew were tired and not satisfied. The boat started to take on water. The crew grew anxious. But what could they do? The boat is adrift at sea. They stuck with it, vainly. And as all things seem to go, it will eventually sink to the bottom of the abyss, to be buried and someday forgotten. EQ might have survived had they invested in it instead. But EQ would have changed from what it was in 1999. Unless you want to be a museum, you have to keep up with the modern world. Thus, with something like EQ, you have to upgrade it. They - vainly - tried to do this. But without the funding, it's futile. There was too much to change, and not enough time to do a good job with the changes that they did manage to produce. What does all this amount to? Well, first off, Verant/Sony, at one time, thought experience penalties were acceptable as a balancing mechanism. Second, we know they have changed/patched the game over and over, year after year. Third, we know that they often retract on past statements or design decisions and do a turnaround. Lastly, we know that they're not resistant to shifting money from one game to another, even if it dooms the outlook of said game. All in all, take it, mix it, let it sit for a while and heat for 15 min. Eat. Here are the patch notes for the removal of racial experience penalties: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=7973
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Last edited by stormlord; 10-18-2011 at 09:17 PM..
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call me weird, but I actually liked earlier version on EQ2, than the later.
Not at the very start - it was buggy as hell, but about 1 year later, after 1st expansion. I liked how EQ2 was much more solo friendly than eq1, but without insane easiness than came later on. For example you could run around soloing, but if want to do your armor quests, you had to group up. And since everyone was doing those quests, it was very easy to find groups for them, so it wasn't a problem. I LOVED LOVED LOVED EQ2 crafting system. I could log in for hours and do nothing but craft away for days. But i was extremely frustrated when they dumbed it down by removing sub-combines, which resulted in flooding the market with instantly crafted items all over. I liked how on one hand world was split into 2 opposing factions, but wasn't restricted as hard as in WoW (you could still group with your friends from the other side, where in WoW you can't even send a tell to your friend on other faction, even on non PvP server, which I hated) I liked how both sides had their own market system, yet there was the fence, and I enjoyed smuggling goods from one side to the other for profit. But at some point they combined both markets into one, which imho, really sucked... On other hand, it wasn't without some rather weird design approaches: 24 classes, where 12 would do, was weird, and grown more ridiculous when i realized that some of the "pairs" were nearly shadowed copies of each other. How was it logical that both versions of druids could start in both good and evil sides, yet Conjurers (ala mages) could only be good? They managed to fit in as many as 3 different Rogue stile classes, yet somehow managed to drop off Beastlords... Overall, I loved and was amazed at EQ2 initially. Specially the elaborated zone scenery not found in eq1 - don't have to go far - just look at Antonika, and realize how blunt eq1 world was. Not because of its 5 year old graphics, at the that point, but because of its emptiness and lack of any sort of zone layout features But then they started to dumb things down. A lot. In their desperate attempt to catch up with WoW, they moved away from what they had right. Many group encounter found in variety of zones were lowered down to solo difficulty. While they still added many good things since then, I felt like at the end, they are not moving in the right direction. I decided that I will not be investing my time into it, knowing that I won't like it at the end. If there is one reason to like Emu, is that you can make yourself anything you want and deem right. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] | ||
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#9
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I played EQ2 briefly after they launched PvP servers. I was one of the first lvl 70s on the server and got the first Ice Nova Master spell on the server. I got kind of burnt out.
I will admit visually the game was pretty awesome and it did right a lot of things that I thought the original EQ miss-stepped on. I didn't really like the two faction environment, but that was mainly because I had played on a pvp server with 4 teams and felt that was a more interesting dynamic. I also wasn't a fan of the packs of mobs. I feel that social mobs are fine but I'm not really down with the idea of unsplittable mobs. As far as crafting goes I would like to see a game with something between EQ/EQ2 and WoW. I don't really like WoW's super easy mode grab a bunch of this and a bunch of that and hit combine and AFK to make a sandwhich. On the flip side it also doesn't make sense to me to fail a combine so epicly that you lose all components involved. The layout of zones is tough some games pack in too much stuff, others like Vanguard give you long stretches of desolate areas. I think the orignial EQ zones were good for when they came out, what was reasonable to achieve in the day. The later ones were just garbage. Dungeons were just repeating textures in unimaginitive right angle patterns.
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