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Old 02-20-2012, 12:16 PM
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How would you feel if I gave someone a second chance for one of the following reasons:

"I knew it was against the rules but didn't realize you would PERMA BAN the accounts. I figured you'd just suspend me."

"I knew it was against the rules but i feel the punishment is too harsh."
How bouts you guys treat other violations like exploiting/hacking/general dickishness more like this and bring in a 2 box suspension to 1 month (or give the person the option as to which account they'd like perma banned) and a second violation be a perma ban.

I can understand why you guys crack down hard on it, just as I recognize that it's an easier thing to crack down on as oppose to all the subjective crap around hacking accusations and the usual PvP squabbling over training and other shit, but this is one of the least harmful violations any server can have.

Start working hard against the things that actually depopulate servers, the things that this distilled group of scum PvPers are infamous for or everything else will be window dressing.

VZTZ and every other PvP emu server I've played on didn't die because of two boxing, it died because of rampant hacking and people letting their competitive nature and penchant for griefing drive everyone else off the server, including themselves (once it was only them left), and create a general corrosive atmosphere that all but they can tolerate.
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Old 02-20-2012, 12:17 PM
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How bouts you guys treat other violations like exploiting/hacking/general dickishness more like this and bring in a 2 box suspension to 1 month (or give the person the option as to which account they'd like perma banned) and a second violation be a perma ban.

I can understand why you guys crack down hard on it, just as I recognize that it's an easier thing to crack down on as oppose to all the subjective crap around hacking accusations and the usual PvP squabbling over training and other shit, but this is one of the least harmful violations any server can have.

Start working hard against the things that actually depopulate servers, the things that this distilled group of scum PvPers are infamous for or everything else will be window dressing.

VZTZ and no other PvP emu server I've played on didn't die because of two boxing, it died because of rampant hacking and people letting their competitive nature and penchant for griefing drive everyone else off the server, including themselves (once it was only them left), and creative a general corrosive atmosphere that all but they can tolerate.
A++ post sir
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:19 PM
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Amelinda your hard stance you have taken lately will be a pile of mash potatoes if you go easy on these dirtys.
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Old 02-20-2012, 01:53 PM
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Back when I was a noob on this server (March 2010) I had two of my accounts banned by Secrets for two boxing. At the time I didn't realize how serious the server was about it, but I'm fully aware now, given the accounts haven't been unbanned for going on 2 years. As much as I now accept and respect the server's rules, I feel boxing is enforced way harder than other offenses such as mq, exploiting, and ninja looting, and there's something wrong with that in my mind.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:05 PM
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Im with the three strike rule personally,

1st time 1-2week suspend
2nd time 1month
3rd perma ban

Sadly I know of afew that are on there 5-6ths and they still play.

This is a total bullshit slap to are faces, the people who play legit everyday.

Perun should be perma banned and i know im not alone on this one.
everday i see this kid ingame makes me feel like the gms here are complete and utter idoits or theres some bribing going on behind the scenes.

Being a guild leader should not buy you a free pass to exploit/MQ/train/ninjaloot ect ect ect.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:16 PM
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Im with the three strike rule personally,

1st time 1-2week suspend
2nd time 1month
3rd perma ban

Sadly I know of afew that are on there 5-6ths and they still play.

This is a total bullshit slap to are faces, the people who play legit everyday.

Perun should be perma banned and i know im not alone on this one.
everday i see this kid ingame makes me feel like the gms here are complete and utter idoits or theres some bribing going on behind the scenes.

Being a guild leader should not buy you a free pass to exploit/MQ/train/ninjaloot ect ect ect.
no idea who the fuck Perun is but sounds like a scrub. BAN THEM STRAIGHT TO HELL AMELINDA

Reasoning: I barely use a custom UI and boxing/exploiting ruins my immersion
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:37 AM
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Im with the three strike rule personally,

1st time 1-2week suspend
2nd time 1month
3rd perma ban
This community is beyond three strikes.

You fuck up once, you get a long suspension, you fuck up twice and you start over.

At I think the best thing for Emu PvP right now is for it to die and hibernate for a few years so as many of the utter trash move on. It'll also allow the taint that surrounds every PvP server and makes it avoided by most nostalgia seekers to disperse so they won't immediately be deterred by the trash.

I don't know what the hell it is, but there seems to be a tight core of assholes that just drift from server to server and seek to burn it down and both complain when they die and take perverse pleasure in seeing them ruined.

I mean as it is, this community is like the SZ Jihad chain of boards that were funny to read for a short while, then become oddly interesting because of all the demented and vicious personalities tear at one another to becoming stall and a bore because every second thread and every second word in every thread was n*gger as if the taboo around that word still made it funny to say.

It's hardly surprising that several SZ Jihad personalities have been active in Emu-dom all these years.

What this community needs is no longer banning, but ostracism. You don't simply lose your account and start over, you get prevented from ever playing on the server again.

The novelty of that is that is doesn't have to be an absolute barrier because if they come back hiding their identity they either get had in time and shit canned or they're forced to cut the crap, fly under the radar and lose the most precious thing they have: their EQ-personality/schitck. They either give it up to get their nostalgia fix or they play account Sisyphus over and over once they get discovered.

The nice thing about that is they either act properly or they finally stop playing this fucking game and remove one more person that has been driving countless others away for years.
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Old 02-21-2012, 04:56 AM
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This community is beyond three strikes.

You fuck up once, you get a long suspension, you fuck up twice and you start over.

At I think the best thing for Emu PvP right now is for it to die and hibernate for a few years so as many of the utter trash move on. It'll also allow the taint that surrounds every PvP server and makes it avoided by most nostalgia seekers to disperse so they won't immediately be deterred by the trash.

I don't know what the hell it is, but there seems to be a tight core of assholes that just drift from server to server and seek to burn it down and both complain when they die and take perverse pleasure in seeing them ruined.

I mean as it is, this community is like the SZ Jihad chain of boards that were funny to read for a short while, then become oddly interesting because of all the demented and vicious personalities tear at one another to becoming stall and a bore because every second thread and every second word in every thread was n*gger as if the taboo around that word still made it funny to say.

It's hardly surprising that several SZ Jihad personalities have been active in Emu-dom all these years.

What this community needs is no longer banning, but ostracism. You don't simply lose your account and start over, you get prevented from ever playing on the server again.

The novelty of that is that is doesn't have a be an absolute barrier because if they come back hiding their identity they either get had in time and shit canned or they're forced to cut the crap, fly under their radar and lose the most precious thing they have: their EQ-personality/schitck. They either give it to get their nostalgia fix or they play account Sisyphus over and over once they get discovered.

The nice thing about that is they either act properly or they finally stop playing this fucking game and remove one more person that has been driving countless others away for years.
omgawd yes ^^ This.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:00 PM
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Depends what you're 2 boxing..

Give me a chanter + cleric in howling stones.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:14 PM
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How about read the rules and take them seriously?

Who's getting slapped in the face when people post for an IP exemption then do this?

You can try to insult me, my friends or my guild, but you will not make an attack on the Queen.

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