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Old 05-25-2011, 06:42 AM
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Default Why is a Lamentation better than a Jade Mace?

Worse ratio and fewer classes can use it, yet it costs twice as much - what gives?

I like swords better than maces from an aesthetics viewpoint, but I see no reason to ever buy a Lammy over a Jade Mace. Is the 35 hp or whatever really that big of a deal?
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:03 AM
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+6 STR/STA and the difference in delay won't matter when you're hasted (worn & spell) unless there's no min delay cap on P99. Also, willing to bet most melee classes aside from monks neglect their 1HB skill.
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:30 AM
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Min delay? How could there be a min delay and the Mosscovered Twig still be worth 10k+? Am I missing something here?
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Old 05-25-2011, 09:38 AM
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Another consideration is the rounding post-haste calculation (i.e. http://wiki.project1999.org/index.php/Haste_Guide).

So Lamentation and Jade Mace have the same hasted delay under some cases (for ex., with FBSS+SLTW).
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Old 05-25-2011, 10:39 AM
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It's just another racket for people to overcharge others.

Let's keep in mind that no SK is gonna use a Lammy, so it's basically Warrior / Ranger only.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:01 AM
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Lets not forget looks too. Lammy > jade mace imo.

Also, aren't items status symbols?
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:10 AM
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Lammy was a status symbol on live. Here, it's a Ranger item, or maybe a low-end Warrior item. I sure don't see many tanks using them - and the price reflects that.

Granted, Jade Mace has crashed faster despite being an overall more useful weapon, and I have no idea why.

The bottom line is that both weapons are vastly inferior to what they were on live, partially due to more players having RMoY/BotBDE, but mostly due to how aggro works on here (vs live). You just can't hold aggro without a proc - seemingly much more so on here than on live.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:22 AM
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Jade mace is much, much more common. stats aside, people like rare items.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:24 AM
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Jade mace is much, much more common. stats aside, people like rare items.
How rare is Lammy? Jade Mace drops like once every 10 hours on average, and the Captain camp in KC is the camp most likely to be open due to the buggy pathing making it very hard to break in without FD.

Jade Mace cost more on live, at least on my server, and also held its value better because both high-end warriors (pre-epics) and monks wanted it.
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Old 05-25-2011, 11:34 AM
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Fast weapons aren't as good for aggro here compared to how they were on live, therefore proc-less weapons are almost useless for warriors here that want to hold aggro. I'd have to assume that lammy is priced high because it looks cool and, like others have said, is a status symbol.
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