Forced Rotation Isn't Classic

[Pyrocat]

You don't have to babysit. FFA and ignore petitions.

[Reiker]

Seconded. We have non-classic rules being set to benefit the guild that's behind, with absolutely no input asked from us. Why?

[Hasbinbad]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

absolutely no input.. ..from us

This is the thing that disturbs me. Trans zoned out of Fear before we were informed of any rotation.. Did they have something to do with setting this up? Why were we not talked to first as well? However it went down, this was a blatantly biased proceedure.

I would complain more, but that I can't stop laughing at the fact that it shapes up that the very guild that QQ'd for weeks and weeks about nonexistant GM favoritism and hacks (zero evidence has been presented against any IB member) - have now been shown to be the recipients of favored treatment (implementation of rotation without consultation), and the utilizers of illegal methods to gain access to loot they would otherwise have questionable ability to obtain (wiping to trash in the same sequence where they exploit phin).

Cute.

[Otto]

Apparently they'd rather we rotate on complaining to them rather than just ignoring it all together.

The rotation went into place because Transcendence was complaining about it.

AKA, the GMs put in the rotation because Trans was crying. Should I be looking at this differently?

[Kutles]

I have a few basic questions here, not trying to attack any person, any guild, or anyone at all that is in this situation.

Originally Posted by Otto [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

rather than just ignoring it all together.

Why is this not a possibility as far as the role of GMs? Why is there a need or a general feeling that something must be done, not by guilds(camping stuff quicker, becoming more motivated as a guild to leap into action), but by GMs? Guild drama has been a normal part of everyday life on live EQ classic, Kunark, Velious, etc, even to this day and it will always be a major part of the social aspect of this game. It also exists or existed in, not just Everquest, but Everquest 2, World of Warcraft, Shadowbane, Guildwars (irony?), Star Wars Galaxies, and essentially any other mmo you can think of that has ever existed.

So, as long as neither guild breaks any rules posted in the rules and policies thread, what is the issue here?

Maybe IB will whine, so be it. Maybe Transcendence will whine, so be it. The game is never going to be perfect, and there are always going to be issues of people competing and getting at each others throats. It's just a hard fact of the nature of an mmo, please don't mess with that.

[Reiker]

And the ones doing the most crying (Allizia & Tibador) were caught exploiting a raid mob they were told not to exploit in the past... any word on their bans?

How many Fear mobs have you guys even killed total since the server's been up, 20?

[Dartagnan]

It's socialism at it's best.

[Zexa]

Quit it with the victimized mentality. You may be winning the battle at EQ content, but you are losing the battle at QQing.

Whine enough to make the devs' life hell and they'll hand you content on a silver platter. I personally am going to start with petitioning/PMing for a 1 month head start in PoHate and then getting myself on the schedule for Evil Eye because I know some kewl doods with like 10 manastones and I need a second, but it's always camped.

I miss the days of GM favoritism when raid mobs were just spawned for us, GMs killed it, and we got the loot.

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[Jify]

Originally Posted by Reiker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And the ones doing the most crying (Allizia & Tibador) were caught exploiting a raid mob they were told not to exploit in the past... any word on their bans?

I was under the impression exploiting would require some sort of action. So far, from the actions taken, and the results that followed, we have that:

1. Exploiting a raid mob is fine, as long as it's in a zone with bad pathing.
2. Rotations will be put in place for any highly contested raid zones or spawns.
3. Decisions are made based on GM unbiased opinion in response to concerns from one party.
4. GM requests should not be taken seriously unless threatened with ban (see point 1)

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(Honestly, I'd like to know. Can we exploit pull Phinny? It would make our 1.5 group raids down to 3 people. It would save a TON of time! I'm all for exploit pulling if it's been ruled a viable tactic!)

[Rifter]

Gonna have to agree with this and I don't even play anymore. Forced rotation set up by GMs is about the worst thing that's happened on this server yet.