Accused of 2boxing

[dhaarkhorse]

So yesterday, My brother a lvl 11 shaman was helping me and his wife both lvl 5, level in Gfay. He was only there as a healer and possible offtank if pulls got nasty. We live in Florida and yesterday after noon we were under sever thunderstorm and tornado warnings. About 2 hours into our leveling, Braknar shows up and accuses of 2 boxing. So i disbanded the group with my sister inlaw and get taken to Unrest. Upon Zoning i go Linkdead due to a power surge effecting my wifi. Before i can even log back in, to jump through the hoops expected of me. My brother is banned and i can't get back into the server.

Now My brother posted in the petition section to which he basically got a "what i say goes.... 30day suspension" from Braknar. Even after trying to calmly explain the situation. His reasoning seemed to be that we weren't moving at the same time. I understand he is trying to keep 2 boxing from ruining the game but, this tough luck approach to innocent players is only going to drive people away. My brother was watching tv and only healing when his wife or i asked for it (in the same room).

There is not much reason to run around on a healer, especially when your 6lvls higher than the people your healing and not even part of the group. I'm not sure how long Braknar has been around but, i feel like this is an abuse of power and that its bullshit to be suspended for 30days because someone (who has been a member of the forums since this month) says so.

Given the opportunity i'd gladly run figure 8s around pools in unrest as proof that we weren't 2 boxing. whatever it takes to knock him off his high horse and show him we were innocent.

If anyone else has had an issue of this sort please FLAME on this for its my only chance to get my account back in the next 29days... and possibly the only way my brother will play again.

Thanks for reading my rant and have a nice day

[Himalayan]

Look at it through his point of view.

You get accused of two boxing, and when he teleports you to another zone to prove your innocence your "wifi gets knocked out". There's no proof other than your account of the situation. Of course you'd be willing to run loops around ponds when its convenient for you to have someone else playing the other character, I mean, when your wifi is back up.

This server is a volunteer project running at 0 cost to its entire player base. If you disagree with their rules there are always other games and servers to play on that may be more accommodating to you.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Himalayan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look at it through his point of view.

You get accused of two boxing, and when he teleports you to another zone to prove your innocence your "wifi gets knocked out". There's no proof other than your account of the situation. Of course you'd be willing to run loops around ponds when its convenient for you to have someone else playing the other character, I mean, when your wifi is back up.

This server is a volunteer project running at 0 cost to its entire player base. If you disagree with their rules there are always other games and servers to play on that may be more accommodating to you.

Except who goes through the trouble of all of this? Especially when you can just catch them 2 boxing again later if they really were?

It seems pretty obvious this is just a case of GM doing what they thought was right (perfectly understandable given what happened)....but turns out it wasn't what they thought.

They should just unban and move on. Does anyone win by doubling down on the ban and driving away players? :|

[Himalayan]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except who goes through the trouble of all of this? Especially when you can just catch them 2 boxing again later if they really were?

It seems pretty obvious this is just a case of GM doing what they thought was right (perfectly understandable given what happened)....but turns out it wasn't what they thought.

They should just unban and move on. Does anyone win by doubling down on the ban and driving away players? :|

Who goes through the trouble of writing a post on a forum with a story to get their account unbanned? Specifically after their appeal to be unbanned is denied? Just about every person its ever happened to. Ever.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by Himalayan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who goes through the trouble of writing a post on a forum with a story to get their account unbanned? Specifically after their appeal to be unbanned is denied? Just about every person its ever happened to. Ever.

Then why not just give the benefit of the doubt and check in a few times while invisible?

Assuming everyone is lying is a rather ugly way to live life haha.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Assuming everyone is lying is a rather ugly way to live life haha.

Perhaps, but also wise.

The OP was being tested before he even got to class.

[HappyTr33z]

Originally Posted by Himalayan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Who goes through the trouble of writing a post on a forum with a story to get their account unbanned? Specifically after their appeal to be unbanned is denied? Just about every person its ever happened to. Ever.

Yeah but so would someone who didn't do anything wrong at all, this logic doesn't work. Bottom line is : it's a video game, give the dude a warning and just watch him extra close for a while. If he slips up again then no excuses, if not then everyone stays happy and the server retains some lifeblood.

[Dirtnap]

P99 works on an "everyone is guilty" mentality, and getting them to reverse something is near impossible.

Going so far as to send birth certificates proving you have a brother, and the marriage certificate to prove he has a wife, won't get them to reverse the suspension.

EDIT: I've played this server off and on for years with my twin brother. We've never been tested for boxing, and we do shit like have my bard auto follow his monk playing healing song.

[fastboy21]

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It seems pretty obvious this is just a case of GM doing what they thought was right (perfectly understandable given what happened)....but turns out it wasn't what they thought.

No. It isn't pretty obvious. It doesn't turn out any which way. Apparently, the GMs have methods for catching 2-boxing. Somehow, the OP fit the criteria AND then went LD when called to be tested on it. Of course, it's possible the OP is honest. It certainly seems that given all available information the GM didn't unfairly arrive at his conclusion.

Originally Posted by Ivory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They should just unban and move on. Does anyone win by doubling down on the ban and driving away players? :|

No, they shouldn't. IMO this doesn't drive players away. In the long run, its policies like these that have made P99 the best emu server ever with a huge population.

30 Day suspension isn't the end of the world. Low lvl characters could easily re-lvl to where they were in much less time.

Even if you are right, you are wrong to handle it by posting in the forums. You elevate your case to the next GM through petitions and private messages. Trying to publicly call out the guide/GM on the forums in and of itself should be a suspension.

And, stop two-boxing.

[Ivory]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Apparently, the GMs have methods for catching 2-boxing. Somehow, the OP fit the criteria AND then went LD when called to be tested on it.

Maybe I'm too trusting :P Just goin off what we know so far.

Ivory, are you Supreme?

Why do you keep asking me that? :|