Should I Make a Human, Dark Elf or Gnome for Cleric?

[Zerdos]

Hey everyone, just wondering what all your opinions are for these 3 races for cleric. Dark elves seem cool since they have the ultravison but human inni has all those cool clickies. Gnome also seems cool since they have tinkering and wallhacks.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Zerdos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hey everyone, just wondering what all your opinions are for these 3 races for cleric. Dark elves seem cool since they have the ultravison but human inni has all those cool clickies. Gnome also seems cool since they have tinkering and wallhacks.

Human Innoruuk is best if you want to solo a lot. They get some nice clickies like https://wiki.project1999.com/Terror_Forged_Mask and https://wiki.project1999.com/Regent_Symbol_of_Innoruuk for doing some fear kiting. It isn't great, but it allows you to expand which solo camps you can do, because this fear kiting works on living mobs. They also get https://wiki.project1999.com/Fright_Forged_Helm which gives you see invis, better night vision, and can act as a GCD item.

Gnomes would be best in terms of raw advantage. Wall Hacks + Tinkering is going to give you more benefit overall than Humans or Dark Elves if you are not planning on soloing a lot. Most clerics don't solo a lot, so this would probably be the best choice between the three in terms of raw advantage.

Dark Elves win on the fashion front for most players, and they do get hide, which is nice because Clerics don't get a normal invis. However, it is pretty easy to get clickie invis items in this game, so it isn't a huge benefit. Same with ultravision, it isn't difficult to get improved night vision for the other races.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Gnomes would be best in terms of raw advantage. Wall Hacks + Tinkering is going to give you more benefit overall than Humans or Dark Elves if you are not planning on soloing a lot. Most clerics don't solo a lot, so this would probably be the best choice between the three in terms of raw advantage.

only reason to play a gnome is to be uber twink levels 1-35ish with their tinkered haste( might as well just roll and actual melee class if thats your jam), other than that they are the worst possible option.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

only reason to play a gnome is to be uber twink levels 1-35ish with their tinkered haste( might as well just roll and actual melee class if thats your jam), other than that they are the worst possible option.

Out of the three listed by OP (Human, Dark Elf, Gnome), Tinkering and seeing through walls are the most useful racials overall. Ultravision/Hide isn't giving you much, and Human Innoruuk Cleric only benefits if you want to get/use the clickies.

Good point about the tinkered arms though on Gnomes, that would help with soloing as well.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Out of the three listed by OP (Human, Dark Elf, Gnome), Tinkering and seeing through walls are the most useful racials overall. Ultravision/Hide isn't giving you much, and Human Innoruuk Cleric only benefits if you want to get/use the clickies.

Good point about the tinkered arms though on Gnomes, that would help with soloing as well.

beyond the gimmick i already mentioned with haste at low levels, how exactly is tinkering "useful" for a cleric? and every race can wall hack either you can get shrunk or you can simply just sit next to the wall you want to see through. viola, wall hack. Even if magically it was true that only gnomes could wall hack, it still wouldn't be one percent as useful as having snare.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

beyond the gimmick i already mentioned with haste at low levels, how exactly is tinkering "useful" for a cleric? and every race can wall hack either you can get shrunk or you can simply just sit next to the wall you want to see through. viola, wall hack. Even if magically it was true that only gnomes could wall hack, it still wouldn't be one percent as useful as having snare.

I didn't say it was game breaking. I am just saying it's more useful than Ultravision, Hide, and the Innoruuk clickies if you aren't planning on using them.

I personally agree that I would pick Human Innoruuk. I like the clickies and have a Human Innoruuk Cleric myself with the clickies. But not everybody is going to be playing a cleric in a way where they need snare, like if they just want to group up and heal.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

beyond the gimmick i already mentioned with haste at low levels, how exactly is tinkering "useful" for a cleric? and every race can wall hack either you can get shrunk or you can simply just sit next to the wall you want to see through. viola, wall hack. Even if magically it was true that only gnomes could wall hack, it still wouldn't be one percent as useful as having snare.

I think the relative easy access of eyeballs may be a tiny tick in the plus box?

Can gnome clerics follow brell? They can get a dwarf smith to make them some good racial armor, right?

[Whittaker]

I just leveled my human inny cleric to 32ish solo with a PWC, and I can tell you a few things. Moving (solo) through dungeons would be a lot easier if I was a gnome. I do have the infra/see invis hat and snare necklace. I usually only snare as a nice mana-free pull. Invis is never a problem if you get 2x ring of shadows, 200pp a piece on blue, 25pp to recharge by yourself. They also drop off a level 25 mob (with HT). Hide can be really useful, too. I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the three tbh.

[Crede]

Gnomes can also wear the dwarven cultural armor which is pretty solid:

https://wiki.project1999.com/Dwarven...hanted_Imbued)

[Toxigen]

Gnome, 100%.

Human inni max cha is pretty aight doe.