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You keep going back to pets, but that is irrelevant in this conversation. There is no situation in which a Shaman who melees would not use a pet vs. a Shaman who root/rots. There is no reason to include them in the calculation, because they will be there regardless. We only need to compare Melee vs. SPELL DoTs. You also bring up the point about Shaman melee past 45. I have said repeatedly in this thread Shaman melee starts to fall off in the 40s, so I am not sure why you are bringing it up, I never claimed otherwise. If you think a Cleric fighting a yellow mob that has MORE AC than a normal mob of that level is "Cherry Picking", you simply do not understand melee mechanics on P99 very well. Most mobs will parse the same way in the lower levels, unless they are specifically an undercon, like a dungeon boss. You also keep dodging my point about resistances[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] They do play a factor in DPS and recovery time, which significantly affects kills per hour in solo situations.
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Ogre is funny, and its largest effect appears psychological: There are players who think picking Ogre turns 'em into some sort of Norrathian super hero. It isn't real, but because they think it's real, they end up doing more with the Ogre than they'd even attempt otherwise. Remember that "hidden stats" guy from a few years ago? They're out there. Danth | |||
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Personally I'm a pick what you like the look of the best, kind of gamer. Hence the erudite paladin. Hell, half the time I can hardly see at night. | |||
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Crede: I ain't claiming Ogre doesn't have a modest advantage--it does, on the order of a few per cent as demonstrated through testing such as that done by Shamwowi. However, the specific "1/3 more" quoted claim seems absurd unless it references some very specific, cherry-picked situation, so it peaked my interest. Danth | |||
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I understand that FSI was changed so that rather than being "immune" ogres in one of the three bash scenarios they are not stunned. That was the nod to the 1/3rd scenario.
IIRC: Bashed and stunned (ogre) Bashed and interrupted (all vulnerable) Bash and just damaged/not interrupted (none vulnerable) Frankly, rolling torp with a mob slowed 75% with a bash timer on like 40 seconds if you die from not being an ogre there are other factors more likely to kill you. Your ISP, mob melee RNG, a random fizzle, that 2nd whiskey but how so delicious, etc. All that said, glad we have added the legal footnotes. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Note: Yes poor phrasing on my behalf. NOT 1/3rd more efficient. 1/3rd more efficient at not getting bashed stunned. So yea...fractions of a percent if that, of overall efficiency. Likely never realized. | ||
Last edited by Snaggles; 02-04-2021 at 05:45 PM..
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if the sunken cost fallacy and confirmation bias had a baby:
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Personally I wouldn't waste your time trying to make a class level or play in a way it's not meant to. Even if you do race is not going to matter as much as gear. And even then even with all the twink gear possible a melee shaman or melee cleric or any caster class is still going to be very lack luster
As for endgame again race is not as important as gear. A barb shaman with raid gear and 1k+ AC is going to have an easier time than an ogre shaman with crap gear and junk AC Secondly at endgame the best shamans are the ones that can keep up with constantly casting and chaining spells while generating Mana and keeping torpor always up. TLDR; pick which race you like to look at. Worry about gear and later on patience with forever casting
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