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Old 12-10-2015, 06:44 PM
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Alright. You seem to be supporting home-grown euthanasia. Take grandma upstairs, family says good-bye, and then they take her life. All with her consent, though, so that makes it morally good. Uh, huh.
Is grandma quadriplegic? Is there video evidence of her crying and begging to have her life ended? Because if not, that's strawman as fuck.

If you're able bodied, you do it yourself as I said.

Not that debate here is usually of a high quality, but the level of stupidity in this thread is just astounding. We're all Nazis and we're all advocating whatever insanity comes to your mind? You seem rustled by reality.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:45 PM
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not suicidal, but i am a firm believer of, if you dont want to live anymore who has the right to stop you from killing your self.
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:46 PM
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You can't just assume that some of my beliefs will lead to others, that's known as a slippery slope fallacy.

How about you counter the reasoning of my stance if you disagree with it, rather than trying to label me a Nazi?

And for the record, I am a fascist, not a Nazi, do support reproduction being a privilege, not a right, and do not support killing the disabled, or killing anyone besides a fetus, for that matter.
I'm not sure you understand what a "slippery slope fallacy" is, since I am not making an argument as much as I am engaging your own words. Also, you should take a moment to read the posts. Nowhere did I "label [you] a Nazi."
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Alright. You seem to be supporting home-grown euthanasia. Take grandma upstairs, family says good-bye, and then they take her life. All with her consent, though, so that makes it morally good. Uh, huh.
My grandmother had Alzheimer's and spent the last 2.5 years of her life in abject misery, wailing, crying, and begging for death, in spite of being under the care of professionals and in the presence of her family.

You sound like a huge asshole just assuming euthanasia is never warranted.
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My question wasn't concerning "shades of gray." If your goal is to "help prevent further population in an already overpopulated world," then why not fully support a view of eugenics? You're already willing to kill a "retarded fetus" and you suggest sterilization of those you do not want to reproduce. You're just a step away from euthanizing those elderly who can no longer function is society and the disabled who can't contribute to the greater good.
That is the troubling conclusion reason delivers and incidentally the reason we should be wary of advances in AI.
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I'm not sure you understand what a "slippery slope fallacy" is, since I am not making an argument as much as I am engaging your own words. Also, you should take a moment to read the posts. Nowhere did I "label [you] a Nazi."
you already labeled him a marxist socialist weeks ago.
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That is the troubling conclusion reason delivers and incidentally the reason we should be wary of advances in AI.
Always wanted to write some terminator fan fic.. where it started out the robots were like literatly helping in every positive way possible, making it so you didnt have to work, making life better in every aspect

but the red states are like

THESE DEVIL BOTS ARE TAKING OUR JOBS AND GOING TO RESTRICT OUR FREEDOM

and then they start the judgement day by trying to genocide all artificial intelligence based off their retarded outlook on life so the robots are just like, "FINE! well put you in cages you animals."
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Old 12-10-2015, 06:50 PM
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Is grandma quadriplegic? Is there video evidence of her crying and begging to have her life ended? Because if not, that's strawman as fuck.

If you're able bodied, you do it yourself as I said.

Not that debate here is usually of a high quality, but the level of stupidity in this thread is just astounding. We're all Nazis and we're all advocating whatever insanity comes to your mind? You seem rustled by reality.
Explain how that is a straw-man given your assertion, "Is grandma quadriplegic? Is there video evidence of her crying and begging to have her life ended?" Indeed, you seem to be arguing it is OK to euthanize "grandma quadriplegic" at home ("I would support the right for people who are physically unable to end themselves due to health issues giving legal authority to a loved one....").
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Always wanted to write some terminator fan fic.. where it started out the robots were like literatly helping in every positive way possible, making it so you didnt have to work, making life better in every aspect

but the red states are like

THESE DEVIL BOTS ARE TAKING OUR JOBS AND GOING TO RESTRICT OUR FREEDOM

and then they start the judgement day by trying to genocide al artificial intelligence based off their retarded outlook on life.
i found some cutting edge internet videos that should hold your attention for the next 20 years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N8IpxO6rKs
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Explain how that is a straw-man given your assertion, "Is grandma quadriplegic? Is there video evidence of her crying and begging to have her life ended?" Indeed, you seem to be arguing it is OK to euthanize "grandma quadriplegic" at home ("I would support the right for people who are physically unable to end themselves due to health issues giving legal authority to a loved one....").
The only thing you described about grandma is that she's a grandma. I already stated there would be far stricter requirements on authorizing voluntary euthanasia. The more important thing would be a physical malady like paralysis; age would play very little into this.

Ergo, you twisted my argument into one it was not, ergo you're a strawmanning shit-tier poster.
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