Aftermath eating a full 10 days raid suspension

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you are fine with pissing all over the spirit of the rules if you get loot from it ?

AG, must be great having a leader that can be bought with a few silvers..who claims every chance he gets, I am not in it for the loot I'm in it for the chance to experience the feel of classic casual EQ..
Who keeps claming that it's the other guilds players that are the worst on the server due to their loot hungy ways, they do anything for loot and break any rules..

He just showed everyone what his price to piss on any rule was..a BP and help killing the mob that drops it.

Hypocrite much ?

No BP was gained. I've never submitted a petition as a guild because guild's can always play nice and gentlemanly. Also, I get +1 for your vitriolic comment. O think in up to +4 this week.

[ismael]

Nemce, mind giving some more details as to why KT was a mess and a half for the masses that do not know?

[arsenalpow]

The earthquake happened, aftermath secured FTE (meaning they got 1 attempt guaranteed) then dipped for other targets keeping KT on ice.

CSG shows up, sees no one in zone, sees KT, batphones, mobilizes, and suddenly they are told "sorry guys, Aftermath already got that FTE, they get an attempt, go kick rocks"

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The earthquake happened, aftermath secured FTE (meaning they got 1 attempt guaranteed) then dipped for other targets keeping KT on ice.

CSG shows up, sees no one in zone, sees KT, batphones, mobilizes, and suddenly they are told "sorry guys, Aftermath already got that FTE, they get an attempt, go kick rocks"

Staff said that?

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff said that?

Well staff said "I'm sorry CSG, this FTE has already been secured by Aftermath and according to our new Kael rules they are guaranteed one attempt" which is the equivalent of go kick rocks.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Pokesan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Staff said that?

Yes. The zone was empty, identifying a lose of engagement and absolutely no way for us to know that as the zone was empty when we brought 80 people as cleared for 45 minutes and then were told by sirken that we had to find other mobs because this one was claimed.

They wiped a lot of people in ToV for a while and we killed vindi clearing to statue since we couldn't do KT. They killed KT and told us we couldn't do statue because of fte. The word stalling was used a lot and so they offered to team up on statue and give us the loot.

Half my guild left for the night after the crazy KT ruling and before vindi. So it was a huge mess.

[Fire Beetle]

All Sirken has to do is a little more detailed information to his rules. It's really that simple.

[Gimp]

CSG got a BP off statue, not sure why they're mad..Detoxx could have told em to kick rocks

[arsenalpow]

Originally Posted by Gimp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

CSG got a BP off statue, not sure why they're mad..Detoxx could have told em to kick rocks

You don't have their mindset, you wouldn't understand. That's not a slight, it's just entirely different perspective. They aren't operating with a loot bottomline in mind.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Herp [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This "FTE gets first attempt" rule may be the single most retarded thing ive ever seen.

I think it's a good thing. Having a reserved FTE should mean you have to go for it immediately or forfeit, however, or it's the worst raid stall maneuver this server has dealt with. The hardcore raid guilds are VERY good at finding loopholes in rules, and honestly I'm thankful this one has been abused so quickly and can be fixed before it's use becomes common place. This will be fixed. Right?

Originally Posted by arsenalpow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You don't have their mindset, you wouldn't understand. That's not a slight, it's just entirely different perspective. They aren't operating with a loot bottomline in mind.

Exactly. For a casual guild, the kill itself is the reward. It's just not the same after you kill a dragon the 30th time.