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[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do you want socialism for just Americans (national socialism), for americans AND invaders, or international socialism in an world without borders (communism).

Thats the choices presented by the DNC.

Socialism for everyone...paid for by white and asian men, of course.

You're already paying for the illegals my dude. That's not up for debate. We're talking about cutting out the middle man.

Hope this helps.

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by feniin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you care what race everyone is? Or where they were born?

Why do you?

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're already paying for the illegals my dude. That's not up for debate. We're talking about cutting out the middle man.

Hope this helps.

Truth.

[rebeccablack]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're already paying for the illegals my dude. That's not up for debate. We're talking about cutting out the middle man.

Hope this helps.

its a bad look though and that hand raise at the first debate will haunt whoever ends up being the nominee in the general. thats the best ammo the republicans could ever hope for and they will hammer it over and over again.

turning illegals away at the er isnt politically viable even for conservatives but its still a tough pill to swallow for people that letting them go to the doctor would actually save money over the way things work now when healthcare is as fucked and expensive as it is currently. dems are fucking awful at choosing their battles when it comes to this kind of messaging.

[feniin]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you?

[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]Are you doing drugs again?

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by rebeccablack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

its a bad look though and that hand raise at the first debate will haunt whoever ends up being the nominee in the general. thats the best ammo the republicans could ever hope for and they will hammer it over and over again.

turning illegals away at the er isnt politically viable even for conservatives but its still a tough pill to swallow for people that letting them go to the doctor would actually save money over the way things work now when healthcare is as fucked and expensive as it is currently. dems are fucking awful at choosing their battles when it comes to this kind of messaging.

that and "i'm going to tax the hell out of the rich!"

We've already seen over the past decade that "the rich" is a term the left uses rather ambiguously, and is more aptly used to describe a comparison of the wealth of the average american as it relates to the wealth of a third worlder.

I also like how the left heavily pronounced the word "Billion" when they described the insurance industry as earning 86billion in profits last year, while downplaying the extremity of the GND costing just 21 trillion (lowercase).

86 billion is 0.04% of 21 trillion, if you're going to exclaim one word over the other, you would naturally want to exclaim the number that's 245times larger than the other.

Also, 86 billion is 286$ per american citizen; whereas 21 TRILLION is $70,000 per american citizen, or about 20 years of 100% of the american population's taxes, and seeing as how they can't even balance the budget as it stands RIGHT NOW, how does the left propose paying for it on top of raising federal income taxes by 15 to 20% to pay for "Medicare-for-all".

The simple answer? They can't actually accomplish what they're promising; even with 100% of our income.

[Xulia]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

how does the left propose paying for it on top of raising federal income taxes by 15 to 20% to pay for "Medicare-for-all".

The simple answer? They can't actually accomplish what they're promising; even with 100% of our income.

By closing tax loopholes exploited by billionaires/millionaires, expanding estate taxes on millionaire/billionaire inheritances, closing tax loopholes exploited by corporations like Boeing/Amazon, ending the offshore storage of assets to avoid taxation, The Inclusive Prosperity Act that taxes Wall Street speculators, and increasing income tax rates on income above $10mil+.

It doesn't bother you when our defense spending is $716 Billion this year and increasing to $738 in 2020 but a long-term investment in renewable energy to make sure our children and grandchildren have a habitable planet is just too much...

tl;dr
We're going to tax the rich bourgeoisie exploiting the rest of us to fix a planet that is currently on fucking fire because of their greed.

[Xulia]

Originally Posted by Thorondor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

21 TRILLION is $70,000 per american citizen, or about 20 years of 100% of the american population's taxes

This figure was pushed out by an organization "dedicated to advancing the principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty."

So it's a Conservative think-tank of climate change deniers. Here's an example article if you need convincing: This Week in Ridiculous Regulations


Edit: Here's another link from SourceWatch confirming CEI's bias.

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Xulia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

By closing tax loopholes exploited by billionaires/millionaires, expanding estate taxes on millionaire/billionaire inheritances, closing tax loopholes exploited by corporations like Boeing/Amazon, ending the offshore storage of assets to avoid taxation, The Inclusive Prosperity Act that taxes Wall Street speculators, and increasing income tax rates on income above $10mil+.

It doesn't bother you when our defense spending is $716 Billion this year and increasing to $738 in 2020 but a long-term investment in renewable energy to make sure our children and grandchildren have a habitable planet is just too much...

tl;dr
We're going to tax the rich bourgeoisie exploiting the rest of us to fix a planet that is currently on fucking fire because of their greed.

All (as in 100%) of the billionaire's money isn't enough to cover needs they're proposing, so you're targetting "millionaires" too? Like, people that own single family homes and are preparing for retirement? "Millionaire" includes pretty much anyone with a feasible retirement plan.


716 BILLION is 3.4% of 21 trilion

[Thorondor]

Originally Posted by Xulia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This figure was pushed out by an organization "dedicated to advancing the principles of limited government, free enterprise, and individual liberty."

So it's a Conservative think-tank of climate change deniers. Here's an example article if you need convincing: This Week in Ridiculous Regulations


Edit: Here's another link from SourceWatch confirming CEI's bias.

"Climate Change Deniers" - The relatively brand new, and repeatedly manipulated science is settled
"Basic Biology Deniers" - The science of male/female biology is evolving


- The Smrt Ones -
"We have "Science" on our side"