Sleeper being awoken tonight (April 13th)

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just think debates are too important to our democracy to just pull the plug completely like that.

Biased debates are worse than no debates. But I would like a fair and just debate.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Let's just stick to the topic at hand. There is plenty of politics in RnF and Off Topic already lol.

[Goldknyght]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Green was purposely programmed to recycle and move past this event also. Not locked in this timeline forever like Blue.

And on the next server it will be a issue again. So just like other mechanics that are punishable, this event should be punishable also. As brad didn't expect this to be the only unique event for players just like kill stealing and training. So Ban everyone involved in that raid, because it was a D*** move.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Biased debates are worse than no debates. But I would like a fair and just debate.

I’m down for that no doubt. I just wish they would’ve presented an alternative instead of straight quitting like we did.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Goldknyght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And on the next server it will be a issue again. So just like other mechanics that are punishable, this event should be punishable also. As brad didn't expect this to be the only unique event for players just like kill stealing and training. So Ban everyone involved in that raid, because it was a D*** move.

Now that’s just silly

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by eqravenprince [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For less than 1% of the server, the other 99% did not have a choice.

Choice remains

[eqravenprince]

Originally Posted by Elizondo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Choice remains

Sure ok, choice remains in a dictatorship or communism too.

[Goldknyght]

Originally Posted by Skarne [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now that’s just silly

well i think its silly to punish people who train. Its what makes Everquest unique. You literally cant do it in any other game. But they deemed it toxic, so it punishable. Waking sleeper when the majority of the server doesn't want that to happen is toxic, so should be punishable.

[Skarne]

Originally Posted by Goldknyght [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

well i think its silly to punish people who train. Its what makes Everquest unique. You literally cant do it in any other game. But they deemed it toxic, so it punishable. Waking sleeper when the majority of the server doesn't want that to happen is toxic, so should be punishable.

I think you might be a bit too close to the situation man. Waking the sleeper and intentionally training somebody are two different things completely. Training is against PnP and waking the sleeper is arguably an intended mechanic not covered in the PnP because it’s the ultimate guild aspiration to be the ones to do it.

[Elizondo]

Originally Posted by DeathsSilkyMist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the problem is people are getting too hung up on the "player choice" thing.

Sorry you're not going to weasel your way out of it

Stop comparing it to manastone. It's not the same thing.