Most Valuable Class

[hatelore]

You are all smoking, Troll shadowknight is by far the most uselful class. Followed by a human monk or human ranger. These are all facts that can be found at facts.com.

[Tenlaar]

Originally Posted by fishingme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

With the group that I have in mind specifically for an enchanter, there would be no melee.

You're talking about groups specifically built around a single class and just excluding anybody from the group who can't work with it. Nobody else is.

[webrunner5]

Yeah but as he said you don't NEED a Chanter in a group to XP. You NEED a healer if you have a tank etc.

[Daldolma]

Anyone not saying an enchanter doesn't know what they're talking about. An enchanter is a group.

Distant second is shaman. Third is monk.

Hybrids are more trouble than they're worth. The exp penalty kills their utility. Warriors are unnecessary for groups. Rogues and wizards are too one-dimensional. Druids provide nothing that can't be done better by enchanters and shamans. Mages and necros are nice but never indispensable.

[webrunner5]

When Velious comes out a Enchanter will be pretty gimped on a lot of mobs. More Resists, more mobs that can't be mezzed, more mobs that summon. They will die a lot more also. More reasons for the Cleric. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by Tenlaar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're talking about groups specifically built around a single class and just excluding anybody from the group who can't work with it. Nobody else is.

What's your point? A group built around a single class is still a group.

[Lojik]

The answer to this question depends entirely on how much you weight the different scenarios a class will be in, whether it be solo/duo/trio/full group/plane clears/high end boss mobs/whatever else.

[constelllations]

Originally Posted by Daldolma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyone not saying an enchanter doesn't know what they're talking about. An enchanter is a group.

Distant second is shaman. Third is monk.

a bard can mez, regen, mana regen, selo's, haste, charm... they are the most versatile and underutilized class in the game and, when played right, an incredibly powerful addition to any group

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but as he said you don't NEED a Chanter in a group to XP. You NEED a healer if you have a tank etc.

Healer =\= cleric. In plenty of situations, and particularly in most high end camps, a shaman is at least as effective at healing as a cleric.

With an enchanter in your group, you don't need anything else. If you lack a tank, you can pet tank. If you lack DPS, the charm will do the work. If you lack a healer, the enchanter can calm heal his own tanking pet. If you lack a puller, the enchanter can calm split. If you have everything, the enchanter will increase the value of your melees with haste and increase the value of your casters with clarity. They will CC, to ensure against bad pulls. They will charm to add elite DPS. And they won't suck hybrid exp while doing it.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by constelllations [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a bard can mez, regen, mana regen, selo's, haste, charm... they are the most versatile and underutilized class in the game and, when played right, an incredibly powerful addition to any group

A bard sucks more exp than they add, and they're less effective against high end mobs. They're a nice class, but there's no situation when a bard is preferable to an enchanter. If you're exping, they're usually a net negative.