Ron Paul, Glen Beck, Sean Hannity in ATLAS SHRUGGED III

[Gaffin 7.0]

everyone from fl moves to cali imagine that

[Nuggie]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but you wont like the fact I think federal govt should be as liberal as hell. Social programs. Food safety. Defense spending 5x that of any country besides 100x.
And the curbing of anti human practices by global or national corporations.


Healthcare and social entitlements dawg.

Why do you think these things can't be administered at the local level, where they will have the most amount of individual oversight?

[Beethoven]

Red commie liberal pinko bastards!

[DeruIsLove]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think these things can't be administered at the local level, where they will have the most amount of individual oversight?

You have absolutely no idea how much of a logistical nightmare it world be to insure the local governments don't squander said funds.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yea, because people are leaving arizona/texas/nevada to move to California. Oh, no wait. It's the exact opposite. Keep your failure liberal monetary policies in the blue states where they belong. Look at how Detroit has been destroyed by those same policies.

They are going to be in for a surprise in 10-20 years when Texas turns into a blue state because of all the Hispanics.

Also, you could make the same stupid statement about Delaware.

More than 50% of all U.S. publicly traded companies and 63% of the Fortune 500 are incorporated in Delaware. It must be because of liberal Delaware's amazing monetary policies! No, it's because of a gimmick system designed to exploit the way taxation works in the United States, just like Texas is trying to do.

It really has more to do with people being priced out of desirable areas in California because of the excessive cost of living, ie, everyone wants to live there, there are high paying jobs, and not enough room. California has several favorable job markets.

[Pico]

ive met a single libertarian in the real world. just one. i did not want to be around him but because of some mutual friends i had to interact with this tub a couple times. guy was a 30 year old virgin, who literally wept at a party because a girl rightfully rejected his sweaty sexual advances. last i heard he had just been successfully sued for libel over the internet to the tune of 80 grand and was considering suicide


lol

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

this already happening, why everyone flocks to the coasts while middle america becomes more ass backwards and polarized by the day

That's not really happening... And we don't really have a system like the one I outlined anyway. Our fedgov spends more than all state and local governments combined. That means there is not as much difference from one state to the next as there could be. Essentially we have greatly restricted the possible social experiments that can take place.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Nuggie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why do you think these things can't be administered at the local level, where they will have the most amount of individual oversight?

One thing. Leverage. A large strong govt can do more against and have more oversight over the larger more....dubious organizations out there with its antitrust law and national viewpoint.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's not really happening... And we don't really have a system like the one I outlined anyway. Our fedgov spends more than all state and local governments combined. That means there is not as much difference from one state to the next as there could be. Essentially we have greatly restricted the possible social experiments that can take place.

This is correct. The fed gov routinely withholds monies from any states that don't go along with the federal mandates etc. Not much room for a republic these days. People still think the civil war was fought over slavery. Ahh revisionist history.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One thing. Leverage. A large strong govt can do more against and have more oversight over the larger more....dubious organizations out there with its antitrust law and national viewpoint.

The problem with that the nature of government is to collect for its self as much power as possible. You get this big fed regulatory body and it eventually becomes corrupt and all it does is keep down competition and enforces monopolies for its big donors. Look at all of the "Czar" appointments and you can see where this is going. Like I said before this is nothing but corporatism where the gov is only protecting the interest of big corps. They work together to collect as much power as they can.

Decentralization is the answer. More checks and balances. People never question why they changed the way in which reps are chosen by population and such. We should have many more reps than we do now which would make it even harder to buy off people and consolidate into voting blocs.