How you feel about regen vs. stats?

[Quiksilver]

Hi all. I have a paladin who I often solo with, but once in a while I will join groups.

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Dwarven Plate Breastplate [Brell Serilis]
MAGIC ITEM
Slot: CHEST
AC: 30
STR: +8 STA: +10 WIS: +4
SV FIRE: +5
WT: 11.5 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR CLR PAL
Race: DWF HFL GNM
Deity: Brell Serilis


These are my two options. Which, in your opinions, should I go with? Thanks in advance

[SamwiseRed]

brell while fighting, iksar bp while not?

[Quiksilver]

good suggestion. thanks!

[Handpartytowel]

get fungi + manastone for full cleradin immersion

[Quiksilver]

too poor for that :*(

[Splorf22]

So I did a test for Sakuragi where 1 item AC = 6.5HP for CH, i.e. a warrior with 5000hp/1000AC and a warrior with 5650hp/900AC will require complete heals at about the same rate.

Let's assume you're fighting unslowed mobs which put out 25 dps roughly, and that you have 4000HP with shaman buffs as a paladin who isn't max level. 11AC ~= 65hp so you'll be CHed 1.5% less often or you'll take 1.5% less damage. 1.5% of 25 dps is .375 dps, or about 2-2.5 damage per tick. Meanwhile the BP is healing you 5/tick. Clear win.

Now let's say you magically discover Hagglebaron's stash and get a fungi. 15 hp/tick is 2.5hp/second which is 10% less damage. That would require 400 hp equivalent or about 60 raw AC. Which means that even a cobalt BP (+25AC, +140HP) is clearly worse than a fungi tunic for group tanking.

Of course, the more damage/second you are taking the higher the impact of AC. So if you are taking 150 dps from say the Overking than the fungi is absorbing 1/60 of your damage, 4000/60 = 65HP equivalent, and suddenly your BP is almost identical in effectiveness.

Anyway just some back of the envelope calculations. I haven't really done good tests on the effectiveness of AC at high levels, probably because my iksar warrior can't even get about 1k without a shield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Nogdar]

Great insightful maths man, appreciate the effort.

[Estu]

Nice post Loraen!

[Sylexis]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So I did a test for Sakuragi where 1 item AC = 6.5HP for CH, i.e. a warrior with 5000hp/1000AC and a warrior with 5650hp/900AC will require complete heals at about the same rate.

Let's assume you're fighting unslowed mobs which put out 25 dps roughly, and that you have 4000HP with shaman buffs as a paladin who isn't max level. 11AC ~= 65hp so you'll be CHed 1.5% less often or you'll take 1.5% less damage. 1.5% of 25 dps is .375 dps, or about 2-2.5 damage per tick. Meanwhile the BP is healing you 5/tick. Clear win.

Provided ATK vs AC work the same here as it did in live, the damage you take is choppy and sporadic if your AC is below the mobs ATK level, if your AC is higher than the mobs ATK then your damage intake smooths out, most of the damage is on the lower half of the damage range for the mob and you can be kept up by healers much easier.

That math Splorf posted, will only work if you remain on one side of the fence or the other for the mob the whole time, so keep your ac comfortably high and then toss in stats here and there as you need, you'll know if you go too far down in ac because you will suddenly become very squishy against the mobs your level and need to swap out some of that stat gear for ac gear.

Edit: Replied without ever answering your original question sorry. I'd say use the regen bp while soloing, and the plate bp while grouping, the bp provides not just 11 AC more, but Strength, stamina, and wisdom, all stats you can and will put to good use in a group.

[Quiksilver]

Wow, thanks for all the great posts guys.

And yeah Splorf. Well done [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive got all Dwarven Plate gear. But when soloing I like to have a larger mana pool and would prefer to hit harder.

I guess I can try stacking AC with all the Deepwater I have banked (all pieces but legs and BP)

Its just a shame to see all those stats sitting in bags [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But I guess they are overrated?