Classic mechanic discussion: fast weapon/white damage aggro

[Nirgon]

Maybe per swing isn't high enough if that's the case..

[Borador]

Originally Posted by Frieza_Prexus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Completely anecdotal, but I used to see a lot of warriors that would duel wield lamentations and hold aggro decently well. Also, I definitely remember the revultant whip getting a lot of hate for its hyper-aggro tendencies.

What could explain this? Were we all just that bad at the game?

certainly possible. But, I used to dw jade maces because it gave me almost zero aggro issues. The hate on misses makes since and is probably not calculated the same here.

[Enygma]

I recall Lamentations (from SEb) being one of the best agro items in game pre-epics because of the 9/19 ratio. Lots of warriors running around with them etc... due to stats atk/dly ratio.

On this server you wouldn't see a warrior using lammy in a million years.

[Nirgon]

Finally a big warrior steps in. Ty Sworen.

[nilbog]

Originally Posted by Hamahakki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Another non-classic melee bug here: on live, if you were sitting down, an entire round of melee attacks would hit for max damage. On p1999, it hits as if you were standing.

Few people on the pvp server said quite the opposite. That they are being hit harder than a possible max hit while sitting.

Anyone have more info on this?

[Nirgon]

Log in, sit down in front of some frogs in seb

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Enygma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I recall Lamentations (from SEb) being one of the best agro items in game pre-epics because of the 9/19 ratio. Lots of warriors running around with them etc... due to stats atk/dly ratio.

On this server you wouldn't see a warrior using lammy in a million years.

So why on earth were these warriors from live using a 9/19 Lamentation instead of a 9/20 Sarnak Warhammer with a huge aggro proc? I mean even if fast weapons are your thing.

[Ambrotos]

Faster the weapon, the more agro you build on top the of the damage. That's why the twig was nerfed. It wasn't just for the dps reasons, it also had crazy agro.

Seemed like faster agro was more than damage agro.

[Splorf22]

I mean I posted on the first page the precise mathematics that give exactly the behavior that Nirgon wants and are in fact implemented and instead he is going off on one of his unfounded crusades.

Mosscovered twig: 5+11 = 16/10 = 1.6 ratio. That's way better than the epic (1.05 ratio).

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Joroz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

prove it... show me a guild that required everyone to have a mallet for raids. it didn't happen, because mallets were used like other spells or arrows/throwing shit for tagging, not locking agro so an entire raid can blast away without having to worry about the mob turning. Tanks always had a period of agro building up front on raid mobs... sort of how we still kind of wait on engage calls on lesser shit here. It was never 5 clicks and all out assault till mob dead with no risk.

What he said.