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Zalaerian · #**111** 01-12-2012, 02:16 PM

Still clean bro. Not our fault shits broke.

Kringe · #**112** 01-12-2012, 02:20 PM

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LOLOL Kringe was claiming clean whistle up and down too

? where did I claim shit other than not hacking...

Keep my name outta your mouth faggot.

Have Rogean show you the logs of the other 4 Nihilum Naggy kills prior...

Dont think they will surface.

Nirgon · #**113** 01-12-2012, 02:24 PM

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I guess since I posted the Nihilum Naggy, it's only fair I post the Holocaust one. Unfortunately there is no log for the Nagafen that we were there to watch as the mob was reset.

There is this one from a week prior, which is very similar in numbers to the one we saw:

http://www.project1999.org/p99/?Log&Srv=5&Enc=5139970

We've admitted to doing it, but thanks for evidence proving us right in making that statement.

Can you clear the record of this issue with posting (minus guildchat / ooc, I'm not asking for spying into that) the logs of the kill where Naggy died and casted breaths and fears on the fight? We've been trolled constantly with claims of legitimacy despite obvious proof after the fact that they've exploited all of their kills up until the most recent one.

Or, don't even post them. Just state you've read them, the dragons in question used their abilities properly on the kill and that's the end of it. I completely trust you on this, it's just been very quiet and I'm having a very hard time believing this can be stamped as a fully reviewed let alone fair situation.

Nirgon · #**114** 01-12-2012, 02:27 PM

There should be no difference between pulling it over and over until it bugs and killing it and bugging it directly on a pull. The only difference is time invested used to screen the issue at hand (a bugged raid mob kill) and promote bull shit.

letsjoe · #**115** 01-12-2012, 02:30 PM

What are we even talking about? The loot should have been deleted and the mob properly fixed at a later date. Going on a suspension/banning spree is not the answer especially on a low pop server to begin with. There is a lot of ego checking that needs to take place, starting with the top. Holocaust understands what they did was wrong, exploiting a mob is wrong. However it was done a few times before by both guilds. We did it the first time with no one saying anything,(The Nillies knew what we were doing too, didn't see them bitching problems with the loot we got).

Why wasn't this taken care of the day or the second after the first exploited kill? Are we being made an example of? The logic is flawed, maybe at the same time bans should be going around for everyone using the temple of sol ro as a port to nek forest, or maybe everyone that recharges, etc.

I think that this should be something we learn from as a community, and not come to such harsh justices with. No one deserves to be banned from a community for doing something everyone else has done, and will continue to do as long as emus are being run.

**Rogean** · #**116** 01-12-2012, 02:44 PM

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We've admitted to doing it, but thanks for evidence proving us right in making that statement.

Can you clear the record of this issue with posting (minus guildchat / ooc, I'm not asking for spying into that) the logs of the kill where Naggy died and casted breaths and fears on the fight? We've been trolled constantly with claims of legitimacy despite obvious proof after the fact that they've exploited all of their kills up until the most recent one.

Or, don't even post them. Just state you've read them, the dragons in question used their abilities properly on the kill and that's the end of it. I completely trust you on this, it's just been very quiet and I'm having a very hard time believing this can be stamped as a fully reviewed let alone fair situation.

Server "Logs" work differently than you think. The logs you see as a client (in your log file) are completely different types of information than what the server sees. When you see "Lord Nagafen begins to cast a spell" the server sees.. lets see.. something like this:

Code:

struct BeginCast_Struct { // len = 8
/*000*/	int16	caster_id;
/*002*/	int16	spell_id;
/*004*/	int32	cast_time;		// in miliseconds
};

The client then interprets that into the line of text that you see.

The reason I'm saying this is that the server does not ever put data into text format like the clients do, thus can not possibly write it's own logfile based on what clients see.

What we do have "Logs" for are data reorganized into a different structure, shipped off to a logging service, and written to a database. Example of the Encounter Database:

Encounter Header Information
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Encounter Entity Details
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The frontend to display that information takes it and uses SQL table joins to display the proper names for the ID numbers.

Long story short.. We don't have logs of mobs casting spells, doing damage, or ANY logs of any type of chat unless it is seen by our own clients.

Melveny · #**117** 01-12-2012, 02:45 PM

My only complaint is Rogean and how he went about his punishment. For not addressing such issues in public, you do a broadcast to the entire server.... LOL

For punishing only those present, you disband an entire guild of uninvolved parties. LOL

Still have yet to hear of any staff / officer communication. For matters discussed privately. LOL

Still wondering why such conversations did not take place or were not initiated by the staff prior to power flexing. LOL

You do realize even no holocaust memers agree why u did wasn't right. You also realize people that hate everything about us an probably wishes us dead irl, also agree hat you did wasn't right. You do realize even you VIP contributors to your project agree what you did wasn't right.

Just satin.

**Rogean** · #**118** 01-12-2012, 02:49 PM

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You do realize even you VIP contributors to your project agree what you did wasn't right.

Just satin.

Lol....

Melveny · #**119** 01-12-2012, 02:51 PM

Excuse type errors, iPhone is less forgiving.

**Rogean** · #**120** 01-12-2012, 02:52 PM

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vz/tz had a wiretaps table... everything from chat to trades was logged

Trades are logged.

Chat is not, and will continue to not be logged. Logging private chats is invasion of privacy and is different from server to server, it is a morality decision of the server operators. Our server does not contain that capability.