Help with finishing the coldain ring quest?

[nilbog]

I have written all of this quest up until ring 8 - The Velium Ring.

At this point, marching orders are given to Gloradin Coldheart, and a battle sequence is activated.

There is a troop of dwarves that march toward the orc fort.. and at the orc fort, a variety of orcs and giants spawn.

My problem is.. I can't test this alone because I can't be in both places at once to see what all happens. What despawns/respawns? What areas, do they have text?

Looking for fraps, screenshots, logs, and a description of what happens and how it should look. Normally, this isn't needed, and I do it myself. I figure with the amount of level 85+s here, that I would try and crowdsource this very important part of Velious.

I got through ring 8 on eqlive in one day, so it shouldn't be too (time) difficult of a task - especially for more than one person.

After Ring 8, I will also need help recording the 10th Ring War.

For reference, here is a walkthrough: http://www.bonzz.com/coldain.htm

Thanks.

[Erati]

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[Daldaen]

When I get home I'll check my logs for 8th ring war.

But basically what happens is the entire Ry'Gorr fort despawns and then 40ish orcs and 8 giants spawn outside (split evenly left and right of the entrance). I think 4 giants flank each side of the entrance and then Ry'Gorr orcs along the wall going out. These should be higher level cons than normal orcs I believe.

Inside spawns the firbrand, chief, oracle and 1-2 named giants (will check logs again). They each always drop a specific item. Blacksmith will always drop dark ember. Chief always drops spine chill spear. Oracle always drops Ry'Gorr oracle shield. (These are 100% drop rates for the 8th ring triggered versions of these mobs) I think the giant named dropped something but I forget. Chief will drop in addition to that loot his head.

Nothing sees invis so you can invis past everything into the fort (which is now empty except those 4-5 named mobs). And harmony them and single pull/kill chief. Then invis back and turn in the head. You have to wait until the Coldain despawns and respawns as a different version before you turn it in though.

Also this part is completely MQable. You can do rings 1-7 on a character then start up the war and let someone else loot the chief head and turn it in. As long as you have non-KoS faction you should get ring 8 on that person(did it 2-3 times on Mac server like that).

With invis the entire event is trivialized though.

[Vandy]

Patching Live right now if anyone else is up for this let's get together and get this fraps/documented.

I'm on Bert - Saryrn if anyone else is available let me know.

[Laok]

I have an 83 sk and an 85 bard on tribunal (or whatever they're calling it these days, damn merges) if anyone else is there, we can hook it up one day.

[Daldaen]

Beginning Script:

[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'Give this to Gloradin and return to me immediately, it is time. May Brell be with us!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] Your faction standing with Coldain got better.
[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV got better.
[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] Your faction standing with Kromrif got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 11:46:53 2012] You gain experience!!

[Fri Jul 13 11:47:26 2012] That item cannot be dropped, traded, or sold.
[Fri Jul 13 11:47:29 2012] Gloradin Coldheart says 'Thank you. I will return to the Dain and inform him that the battle is underway. Please escort Garadain to the battlefield and see that he returns safely. May Brell bless you and bring you victory over these beasts.'
[Fri Jul 13 11:47:29 2012] You gain experience!!

Fighting Chief:

[Fri Jul 13 11:49:29 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:33 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:33 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:33 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:35 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:35 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:36 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:36 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:38 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:38 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 132 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:38 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:38 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 50 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:39 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to kick YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:39 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:41 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:41 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:41 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:41 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 91 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 137 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:44 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:44 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:45 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:45 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr bashes YOU for 47 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:45 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:45 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:45 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:48 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:48 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 55 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:48 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:48 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:57 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:58 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:58 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 106 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:58 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:58 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 101 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:49:59 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr tries to pierce YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:01 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:01 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 55 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:01 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:01 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 55 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:02 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:02 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 132 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:02 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:02 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 122 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:04 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:04 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 50 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:13 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:22 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:22 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 40 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:23 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:23 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:23 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 106 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:23 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:23 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 55 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:34 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:34 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:34 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 76 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 81 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 13 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:42 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr pierces YOU for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:44 2012] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:44 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:53 2012] Chief Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:53 2012] You have slain Chief Ry`Gorr!
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:53 2012] Your faction standing with RyGorr Clan Snow Orcs got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:53 2012] Your faction standing with Citizens of Froststone got better.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:53 2012] You gain experience!!
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:54 2012] You receive 5 platinum, 10 gold, 7 silver and 12 copper as your split.
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:55 2012] --You have looted a Chief Rygorr's head.--
[Fri Jul 13 11:50:56 2012] --You have looted a Spine Chill Spear.--

Now I went to track down the NPC:

[Fri Jul 13 11:51:13 2012] You begin tracking Garadain Glacierbane.
[Fri Jul 13 11:52:35 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'TROOPS! FALL IN!!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:54:25 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'You all know why we're here. For decades these savages have menaced our people. Recent events have been too much to bear and the Dain has declared war! We will stop at nothing short of the Ry`gorr's annihilation!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:55:19 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'No longer will we tolerate their heathen presence in our lands! Never again will we mourn the loss of a Coldain to these pawns of the Kromrif! Our deeds here today shall make this land safe for Coldain for all time!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:55:22 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'Today the Ry`gorr fall! Tomorrow the Kromrif!!''
[Fri Jul 13 11:56:35 2012] You say, 'Hail, Garadain Glacierbane'
[Fri Jul 13 11:56:56 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'Stay back from the initial charge, my friend. We will go directly for the chief once the troops are engaged. Follow me closely!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:57:01 2012] You say, 'Hail, Garadain Glacierbane'
[Fri Jul 13 11:57:57 2012] You begin tracking Garadain Glacierbane.
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:44 2012] Garadain Glacierbane shouts 'For the Glory of Thurgadin! CHARGE!!'
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] Garadain Glacierbane says 'Good work friend! The Dain will hear of this right away. We couldn't have defeated the Ry'gorr without your help. Take this ring as proof that you have served the Coldain well. You may wish to show it to the Seneschal should you ever stop in our fine city. Farewell, Darchon, it has been my pleasure knowing you.'
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] Your faction standing with Coldain got better.
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] Your faction standing with Dain Frostreaver IV got better.
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] Your faction standing with Kromzek got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] Your faction standing with Kromrif got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 11:58:59 2012] You gain experience!!
[Fri Jul 13 11:59:00 2012] You have lost your target.

At this point I went back in to kill the extra named for loot:

[Fri Jul 13 11:59:49 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:11 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:14 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:14 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:15 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:15 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:17 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:17 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:17 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:17 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:19 2012] Firbrand the Black tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:19 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:19 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:20 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:20 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:20 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:20 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 80 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:22 2012] You resist the Burn spell!
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:22 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:22 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:22 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:22 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:24 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:24 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 48 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:25 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:25 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 53 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:27 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:27 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 89 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:29 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:29 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 62 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:29 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:30 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:30 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 85 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:30 2012] Firbrand the Black tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:32 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:32 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 57 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:32 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:32 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 99 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:33 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:33 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 80 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:35 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:35 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:37 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:37 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 66 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:37 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:37 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 80 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:38 2012] Firbrand the Black tries to crush YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:38 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:38 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:40 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:40 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 62 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:42 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:42 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:42 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 21 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:42 2012] Firbrand the Black crushes YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] You regain your concentration and continue your casting.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] Firbrand the Black was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] Firbrand the Black blisters in the flames of Summer.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] You have slain Firbrand the Black!
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] Your faction standing with RyGorr Clan Snow Orcs got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:43 2012] Your faction standing with Citizens of Froststone got better.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:46 2012] You receive 5 platinum, 6 gold, 7 silver and 12 copper as your split.
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:47 2012] --You have looted a Dark Ember.--
[Fri Jul 13 12:00:48 2012] --You have looted a Gauntlets of the Black.--

[Fri Jul 13 12:01:57 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:04 2012] You resist the Malaisement spell!
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:14 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:17 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:17 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:20 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:20 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 34 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:22 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:24 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr tries to hit YOU, but misses!
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:24 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:24 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 117 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:28 2012] You resist the Malaisement spell!
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:30 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:30 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:31 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:31 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 71 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:31 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:31 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 30 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:33 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:33 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 103 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:33 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:33 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 94 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:35 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 61 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:35 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr hits YOU for 43 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:36 2012] Oracle of Ry`Gorr was hit by non-melee for 1400 points of damage.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:36 2012] You have slain Oracle of Ry`Gorr!
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:36 2012] Your faction standing with RyGorr Clan Snow Orcs got worse.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:36 2012] Your faction standing with Citizens of Froststone got better.
[Fri Jul 13 12:02:42 2012] --You have looted a Ry`Gorr Oracle Shield.--

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I've got some screenshots from the year 2001-2. I'll post them on this reply when I get access to that computer.

Here. From September 16, 2002:

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[Kender]

you couldnt hand in the chiefs head until the call to charge the fort came in as when the call comes he despawns and respawns a new version (one that can receive the head).
i knew a few people that lost their head that way by handing it in too early.

Also, if there wasnt a group there to help the dwarves kill the orcs and giants, Garadain would often get killed in the war. was never an issue though because as mentioned earlier, you could invis into the fort and harmony or lull (i used an enchanter usually) the orc adds and pull the chief solo into the chiefs hut.

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Originally Posted by Kender [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you couldnt hand in the chiefs head until the call to charge the fort came in as when the call comes he despawns and respawns a new version (one that can receive the head).
i knew a few people that lost their head that way by handing it in too early.

That's what my screenshots and party chats seem to indicate: wait until he says "CHARGE"

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Bump. Doesn't look like the 8th Ring (Velium) is yet in Beta.

Besides the OP, here is another guide on the Rings: http://www.rimzig.com/quests/coldain...gs_quests.html