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Old 02-24-2014, 11:17 AM
Daldaen Daldaen is offline
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All mobs in KK save Estrella and Phinny are limited to a 2-item loot table. A rare and a common.

A Seahorse Matriarch is no different. It should drop:

Shield of Prexus
Rod of Health

It incorrectly has a 3rd item, dropping Wand of Ice. Which is also incorrectly labeled on Allakhazam, because people are stupid. Seahorse Patriarch drops Wand of Ice and Seahorse scale cloak. I'm sure it was incorrectly attributed to both because similar names.

Evidence:

http://web.archive.org/web/200105220...how&BID=184812

Lists only Rod of Health and Shield of Prexus on loot table

http://web.archive.org/web/200012052...Kedge_Keep.htm

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There are northern and eastern exits to this main cave. The northern exit leads to a single cave with one seahorse, while the eastern exit forks, leading to two separate caves containing one seahorse each. If you turn right (south) at the fork in the eastern exit from the main cave, you will enter the nest of the SEAHORSE MATRIARCH (Common Drop - Rod of Health: Magic/Lore/No Drop, 1HB 6/30, Wt. 1.5, Five charges Word of Health, Cleric only, All Races, Rare Drop - Shield of Prexus: AC 8, Effect of Enduring Breath, WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD DRU BRD ROG SHM, All Races).

Also, Ferocious Hammerhead:

It should path up from its room into Patriarch room and back down. It also should drop something each time, no loot was added later on apparently.

Evidence:

http://web.archive.org/web/200012052...Kedge_Keep.htm

Quote:
The FEROCIOUS ROOM is almost always empty and is a good place to set up camp if you plan to hunt this area. The only time anything spawns here, is eighteen minutes after you kill the shark that wanders the PATRIARCH ROOM. This room is the spawn point for that shark. After he spawns, he swims up the access tube to the PATRIARCH ROOM, and immediately enters the small room through the south wall. He sits there for a while and then moves into the PATRIARCH ROOM to begin his patrol. On rare occasion, the shark that spawns in this room will be the FEROCIOUS CAULDRON SHARK, (Common Drop - Wand of Shadow: Magic/Lore/No Drop, 1HB 5/30, Wt. 1.5, Five charges of Invoke Shadow, Necromancer Only, HUM ERU DEF GNM, Rare Drop - Driftwood Treasure Chest: Magic/Lore, Wt. 10.0, 10 slot container that reduces items weight by 100%, All Classes, All Races)
Makes no note of a 0 loot. Just a common and a rare.

Also, Estrella:

She should be able to (very often if not always) drop two items.

http://web.archive.org/web/200012052...Kedge_Keep.htm

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Someone at Verant apparently shares my opinion of Estrella, as they have chosen to have her drop two special items almost every time she is defeated (perhaps a hint at how many groups they believe are required to successfully engage her). When they unleashed her on the world, Estrella's creators must have underestimated her wrath and the devastation she would leave in her wake. When they discovered what they had wrought, they gave her the rare distinction of dropping multiple special items. The two items she drops are chosen from the following list, and it should be noted that she can sometimes drop two of the same item. (Common Drop - Rod of Drones: Magic/Lore/No Drop, 1HB 6/30, Wt. 1.5, Five charges of Drones of Doom, Druid only, All Races, Common Drop - Lamentation Blade: Magic item, 2HS 25/54, +5 STR +4 STA, Wt. 8.5, WAR PAL RNG SHD, All Races, Rare Drop - Prayer Shawl: AC 5, WIS +8, Wt. 0.4, CLR DRU SHM, All Races)
I haven't killed her too extensively but I don't think I've seen her ever drop 2 items. This guide indicates she basically always does. Including that it can be sometimes two of the same item.
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Old 02-24-2014, 07:26 PM
Alunova Alunova is offline
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Matriarch will no longer drop Wand of Ice. (Patriarch still does)

Ferocious Hammerhead now paths.
Ferocious Hammerhead will now always drop an item.

Estrella now has a *chance* to drop 2 items.

In addition, I've removed a few spawns from Frenzied room and one from Patriarch room that were not classic.


Fixed, pending update.
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:39 PM
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Fix the exp bonus in there?
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Old 02-24-2014, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Alunova [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Matriarch will no longer drop Wand of Ice. (Patriarch still does)

Ferocious Hammerhead now paths.
Ferocious Hammerhead will now always drop an item.

Estrella now has a *chance* to drop 2 items.

In addition, I've removed a few spawns from Frenzied room and one from Patriarch room that were not classic.


Fixed, pending update.
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Old 02-27-2014, 11:46 AM
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Ravenous Stilleto Fang Pirahna currently has a max hit of 165. this comment seems to suggest that is way off. 90-100 is more in-line with what it should be.

http://web.archive.org/web/200104160....shtml?zone=64

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Ravenous Stilleto Fang By: Anonymous
Posted @ Sat, Dec 30th 9:14 AM Score: Default[2.00]
One Mob the Beastiary didn't mention is the Ravenous Stilleto Fang. Although I'm not certain on exact level, it is at least level 44, and likely to be level 44-46, though it has a weak attack of about 94 max hit. It also has frezied agro, but does not see invis. It looks like a Large Piranha.
Some other mob max hits that seem pretty spot on:

http://web.archive.org/web/200104240....shtml?id=3620

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Hits max for 105. NOT 131.

Cauldronbubble and Cauldronboil, Estrella and Undertow hit for 133.

Shellara hits for 121.

Swirlspine (seahorses and Guardians) hit up to 145.

Phinigel hits up to 161.
Doesn't make much sense for the Ravenous to hit so hard, when the named in the zone quite a few levels higher are hitting for much less.
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Old 07-18-2014, 02:06 PM
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Bump.

Ravenous max hit is still way off.
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Also, Ferocious Hammerhead:

It should path up from its room into Patriarch room and back down. It also should drop something each time, no loot was added later on apparently.

Evidence:

http://web.archive.org/web/200012052...Kedge_Keep.htm

Quote:
The FEROCIOUS ROOM is almost always empty and is a good place to set up camp if you plan to hunt this area. The only time anything spawns here, is eighteen minutes after you kill the shark that wanders the PATRIARCH ROOM. This room is the spawn point for that shark. After he spawns, he swims up the access tube to the PATRIARCH ROOM, and immediately enters the small room through the south wall. He sits there for a while and then moves into the PATRIARCH ROOM to begin his patrol. On rare occasion, the shark that spawns in this room will be the FEROCIOUS CAULDRON SHARK, (Common Drop - Wand of Shadow: Magic/Lore/No Drop, 1HB 5/30, Wt. 1.5, Five charges of Invoke Shadow, Necromancer Only, HUM ERU DEF GNM, Rare Drop - Driftwood Treasure Chest: Magic/Lore, Wt. 10.0, 10 slot container that reduces items weight by 100%, All Classes, All Races)
Makes no note of a 0 loot. Just a common and a rare.
I just timed the ferocious ph at 22 minutes, not 18 as mentioned here. Also, the shark paths back into the FEROCIOUS ROOM but the quote clearly states that he should path to the PATRIARCH ROOM and never go back to the FEROCIOUS ROOM.
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