Game Mechanics: Shrink restrictions in HHK

[Lickum]

I've been leveling in HK since my 20's. Now since the shrink changes I can't shrink there. Sometimes I can walk through the hallways with no worries, but if I hit something that makes me duck then I cant unduck unless I find an area with an extra high roof. Its an outdoor....indoor zone? I am confused and frustrated because I really like leveling here and now I can't, but other races can.

[Lickum]

I seem to have found something more. If you are forced to duck, you cannot unduck unless you have more room than needed. If you manually duck before going through doors, etc. you can pass through then unduck without problems.

[Gorroth]

Shrink worked in any zones classified as "dungeon", that includes Crushbone, Blackburrow, High Keep, Cazic Thule, City of Mist, Karnor's and probably a few others, even though you could use outdoor spells while in the zone...

http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8126


Some zones were specifically mentioned as being a mix of outdoor/indoor zones, as in, you can cast SoW and shrink at the same time. No, I don't have anything to back up my claims, except my experiences from live. I'm not even sure that information was ever posted somewhere.

I would have hoped this would have been addressed with the shrink changes but apparently a simple, brute zone restriction got chosen instead. This is annoying and disappointing.

Seriously, no shrink in HHK? Just try moving about on ground level or the upper floors in that zone as an ogre or even a troll.

[Jify]

HHK is an outdoor zone. In the first section with the begger & bard, if you look up there is sky.

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[Gorroth]

Oh, look, me and a dark elf rogue are shrunk, in Plane of Hate.

What's this? A tiny shaman in Karnor's!. Not convinced it's Karnor's, huh? How about now?. Oh, and more Karnor's, while I'm at it.

What have we here? Shrunk people in Plane of Air. This cannot be! Oh hell, have s'more Air.

Sadly, no screenshot of me exping in HHK or using bear form + grow to counter-grief someone in Nobles' room. QQ


If you're going to "fix" (fuck up) something as insignificant as being able to use shrink everywhere just for the sake of "being Classic", at least do it right. Not being able to shrink in some locations now is a real pain in the ass.

[Uaellaen]

gorro i think it was changed in kunark or velious to not be indoors only anymore, i cant exactly rememer wich expansion ... it was definatly not possible to shrink in any outdoor zone in vanilla EQ up to kunark, and your screenshots are velious UI i think ...

[Gorroth]

Oh, so we're "fixing" stuff now only to change them back at a later date? Well if the devs have nothing else to do than waste their time on such things just for the sake of continuity, I don't mind.

Maybe I'll make a thread to delete all the Wu's armor and "fix" the recipes, only leaving the gloves, see what the monks think about this...

[Uaellaen]

yes indeed, trying to make it all as classic as possible ... they are trying to follow the classic time line, thus having manastones and masks drop in lguk up until a certain point, and rubi etc.

[Tallenn]

The spell shouldn't be INDOORS only, it should be DUNGEON only. There is a separate flag for dungeon/not dungeon, that has nothing to do with indoor/outdoor. There are several outdoor dungeons: Crushbone, Cazic Thule, Unrest, and Blackburrow. I'm not sure if HHK was flagged a dungeon in classic, but my gut tells me it was.

[Bumamgar]

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September 26, 2002 3:00 am
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- Shaman and Beastlord Shrink spell has had its location restriction
removed.


This was a month before PoP was released. Prior to that, the location restrictions were in place. Since this is a classic server that will stop at Velious, those restrictions should be in place on this server.