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diplo
02-27-2013, 11:28 AM
SOW speed should be innate and when velocity is casted on it, it should run even faster. Here is the reference (http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1275&hilit=epic+pet):
http://i.imgur.com/6kvWSP0.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/uI0AtNm.jpg

Here's another reference on zam (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/spell.html?spell=1936). The reference states an "even con" mage, so lvl 50-51 it would not have velocity.
http://i.imgur.com/n0RGBSJ.jpg

falkun
02-27-2013, 11:38 AM
Posted Dates of 2009 and 2003? Good luck, but you won't get anywhere with the research you have provided.

diplo
02-27-2013, 11:43 AM
i figure it would be somewhat valid unless something changed on patch notes, which i'm still trying to dig up.

Nirgon
02-27-2013, 01:05 PM
Velocity was faster than sow already but this fucker was indeed special.

I'd say that's enough evidence to patch in but... that's me trying to make things "more classic".

What <Nilberg and Pals> will want is a speed comparison of an unbuffed pet of some kind.

IE:
Nirgon school of thought: Make the pet a little faster until more evidence is given (make it more classic)

Nilbog school of thought: Don't patch it in until we get something exact

Both have there merits... and subsequent costs of free time (read: going back and redoing something).

diplo
02-27-2013, 01:56 PM
nirgon, where the hell do you find your patch notes..my inspector gadget skills are subpar.

Nirgon
02-27-2013, 02:05 PM
This won't be settled by patch notes pal. I've offered my memory of fighting this pet many times. It was faster compared to the other mage pets, but by no means had innate SoW speed. It was very, very magic resistant compared to others. I'd say like 1/5 roots stuck versus every single one. Also, the point to consider here (and possibly the reason for its "innate resistance") is it conned much much higher than other pets iirc.

I'm not sure if the damage shield was dispelled or not, but Kringe's Velious geared (Breastplate of Eradication, full Kael, many ToV pieces, primal) warrior beat this fucker 1v1 by a nose.

Sundawg
02-27-2013, 07:14 PM
I spent some time recently researching this pet because it came to my attention that the thing was enraging in game.


So far:

Magician Epic pet should run about as fast as jboots.
Magician Epic pet should not enrage at low health.
Magician Epic pet will be slightly more magic resistant.

Fixed, pending update.

Nirgon
02-27-2013, 10:49 PM
Post evidence you found?

Treats
02-27-2013, 11:23 PM
Magician Epic pet should not enrage at low health.


Sent this to Kanras last summer.

You might want to check with him before changing, he might have some other evidence of it enraging.

Silo69
02-27-2013, 11:31 PM
nigron no longer needs patch notes his "memory" is enough evidence lately...

/trash

Nirgon
02-27-2013, 11:50 PM
Screenshots and quotes aren't proof, yep.

SamwiseRed
02-28-2013, 01:31 AM
where is the evidence? havent seen any yet and already fixed pending update? im glad it wont be enraging but the idea that 3 posts out of classic era can warrant a change immediately.

Handpartytowel
02-28-2013, 02:50 AM
how about fix machine gun unresistable root spam pet while you are in there.

Smedy
02-28-2013, 02:58 AM
I spent some time recently researching this pet because it came to my attention that the thing was enraging in game.


So far:

Magician Epic pet should run about as fast as jboots.
Magician Epic pet should not enrage at low health.
Magician Epic pet will be slightly more magic resistant.

Fixed, pending update.

Please do realize the reason epic pet was very magic resistant on live was because it had around 70-80 innate mr , and you also put a elemental blanket on it (during luclin) which gave it 95 mr, 95 mr on live was probably making you resist 9 out of 10 roots, that's why the epic pet was so hard to control.

The reason it gets rooted here is because of the broken resist system, do NOT bump the epic pets resists to 200 to make it "equal" to what it was on live, cause nothing else is equal to this.

Just saying. Fix resist plz

Smedy
02-28-2013, 03:01 AM
Sent this to Kanras last summer.

You might want to check with him before changing, he might have some other evidence of it enraging.

I had mage epic on live during velious, can confirm never enraged. Maybe it did early on in kunark, i wouldn't know about it

Kilbur
02-28-2013, 05:08 AM
Who attacks Mage pets anyways to make them enrage... No it is not more of a nerf to take away enrage and bump up its mr on a pvp server.. This is actually pretty sad....

nilbog
02-28-2013, 07:42 AM
Deleted posts. Keep the stupid arguing out of bug threads.

diplo
02-28-2013, 10:07 AM
Sent this to Kanras last summer.

You might want to check with him before changing, he might have some other evidence of it enraging.

still trying to dig more evidence regarding this...any update kanras?