Best way to bank in gfay?

[Seredoc]

Ok, I have my ogre warrior killing orcs and am wanting to bank. Guards are dubious, bards are threateningly and banker is full on kos with the guards outside the bank being kos as well(think only threateningly though).

I do follow rallos so that helps to not have the deity pose an issue(I think).

After killing enough orcs(app/indif to guards), how do I get to the point I can use the bank without watching over my shoulder?

[falkun]

I don't know if the bard guild will ever like you, but you should be able to kill enough orcs to get the guards and banker to be dubious+. Take the PoD lift, go straight across the pad to the bridge, then up the ramp on the left on the 2nd tree-pad. The third pad you arrive at has the bank. You'll avoid the bard guild in this fashion and also will not pass the ranger nor druid guilds. Its the straightest shot that exists.

[Atennu]

You're going to trash your neriak faction killing those orcs. I really dont see it ever being possible to bank because of your alignment to Rallos. Goodluck tho

[TWDL_Prexus]

You're going to trash your neriak faction killing those orcs. I really dont see it ever being possible to bank because of your alignment to Rallos. Goodluck tho

Wood Elf warriors can also worship Rallos Zek. I don't think it should be a big problem. I'd rather have my Neriak faction then Kelethin but to each their own.

[falkun]

IIRC Rallos is not a "preferred" diety in Kelethin, but you won't take the hit a true evil god (CT, Inny, Bertox) would give you. Also, Kelethin is much more important than Neriak IMO, because you can always slay Lucan once or twice and be pretty free to bank in FP, which is closer than Neriak to EC anyways.

[Raavak]

You'll probably be off Faydwer in no time and probably won't ever need the woodelf faction ever again. I wouldn't do it.

[Droog007]

It's too late - the "damage" is already done. Besides, it's been discussed in another thread that bad Indigo Brotherhood faction will not keep you from doing business in Neriak. Stay away from the warrior guild house. No big whoop.

FWIW, I am working on Cabilis faction and while I am dubious or better with many groups therein, the bankers still scowl, ready to attack. But they don't attack, and I can use the bank as normal. In contrast, I still haven't been able to sell my junk to a dubious merchant in Cabilis.

[Spoonerism]

Good luck! As an Ogre SK, I killed orcs from like lvl 4 to lvl 15 and the banker is still KoS.

The guards actually look at me nicely (not kindly) but the banker is Kill on Site and the merchants are dubious (won't sell to me).

I just live in a world where I never bank... lol (or hire woodelves to do my bidding..IE buy/sell)

[SCB]

Neriak faction is easy to increase by just farming wisps/doing Evil Research quest in SRO.

If you're doing it for faction (ie you overlevel the content), it should take you longer to get ports/run to Eruds Crossing than it will to farm up enough stones to not be KOS by the majority of Neriak.

My high elf enchanter worshiping Errolisi Marr can walk around in Neriak without DE illusion up. There are one or two places I can't go, but the rest of the city is open.

Edit: I've never done the Red Wine Neriak quest, but you should be able to do that easy after a couple bags of LS/GLS at the SRO camp.

[Malone88]

Another possible banking option is Ak'Anon.

You kill the minos and rogue clockworks (I believe) in Steamfont to improve
that faction. Not sure how long it takes though to get non-KOS and to
use the banker there. Evil races can also sell at the druid at the druid
ring there (Crisyn). I keep my DE Necro bound there.

My Necro has killed a bunch of minos already and is still KOS, though I think
I've moved from "ready to attack" to "threateningly" with the guards.
Not sure how long it will take...has anybody done it?

Crushbone Orcs are untouchable...want to keep my Neriak faction in tact ;)

[Swish]

Indigo Brotherhood is literally a bunch of warriors INSIDE a building and very hard to run into unless you're exploring. You'd have to accidentally walk in there to be killed...can continue doing all your Neriak business unhindered.

For the sake of CB being a decent XP zone, there's no reason not to be killing the orcs :p

As for banking - get someone to come with you to Felwithe - invis you outside - run to the bank to the wall on the banker's left, scroll back on your mouse wheel and target him from behind the wall. You can bank no problem with him that way. Just remember to get your invis partner to re-invis you afterwards.

[Seredoc]

I don't know if the bard guild will ever like you, but you should be able to kill enough orcs to get the guards and banker to be dubious+. Take the PoD lift, go straight across the pad to the bridge, then up the ramp on the left on the 2nd tree-pad. The third pad you arrive at has the bank. You'll avoid the bard guild in this fashion and also will not pass the ranger nor druid guilds. Its the straightest shot that exists.


Cool, that route should work nicely to keep me off the bards radar. Thank you.


Indigo Brotherhood is literally a bunch of warriors INSIDE a building and very hard to run into unless you're exploring. You'd have to accidentally walk in there to be killed...can continue doing all your Neriak business unhindered.

For the sake of CB being a decent XP zone, there's no reason not to be killing the orcs :p

As for banking - get someone to come with you to Felwithe - invis you outside - run to the bank to the wall on the banker's left, scroll back on your mouse wheel and target him from behind the wall. You can bank no problem with him that way. Just remember to get your invis partner to re-invis you afterwards.

I can bank even with the banker read to attack? He's not going to just hop through the wall and kill me for funzies?


Edit: Also never really played an evil race very far(had a ikky monk on live that I used the fd/sneak method and farmed faction like mad just to get dubious for it) so moving forward I just want a place on each continent/area that I can bank and vendor(if possible).

[Swish]

The Felwithe banker is indifferent to everyone as far as I know - my troll SK had no problems banking there (a long time ago but still).

But yes, even at scowl he'll bank with you as long as he doesn't see you...works for my Iksar necro in North Freeport, definite scowl in there :p

[Seredoc]

The Felwithe banker is indifferent to everyone as far as I know - my troll SK had no problems banking there (a long time ago but still).

But yes, even at scowl he'll bank with you as long as he doesn't see you...works for my Iksar necro in North Freeport, definite scowl in there :p


Just making sure because I made it a point to target him from the door and Banker Willaen is very much ready to attack.

Now to figure out why the two guards by the bank are kos but the others are "fine" with an ogre in town, prolly druid or rogue faction mixed with the guard's faction I bet.

[Swish]

Yeah I don't think you can bank from the outside with Kelethin unless you move the banker in front of his desk. Worked for live, doesn't work here I think - they always path back.

That banker is on an extremely hard/impossible faction to raise, the 2 guards might share it with him.

If you've done the time in Crushbone and the Felwithe guards aren't kos, you won't need an inviser, just dont stray into the paladin guild accidentally :p

[A1551]

The Felwithe banker is indifferent to everyone as far as I know - my troll SK had no problems banking there (a long time ago but still).

But yes, even at scowl he'll bank with you as long as he doesn't see you...works for my Iksar necro in North Freeport, definite scowl in there :p

Sadly for evil races they fixed this in the last patch, the felwithe banker is now KOS to evils whereas he used to be indifferent to everyone. You used to be able to kill orcs in crush till you were nonkos to guards and be able to bank in felwithe (minus avoiding a bard or two who can also be fixed by fighting in MM).

So from a practical perspective evils are outta luck in the gfay area (minus maybe the trick swish mentioned about banking out of LOS from the banker in felwithe). I've never tried the Akanon thing but it sounds promising.

As a side note just want to confirm killing stuff in crush as an evil is meaningless from a faction standpoint. The indigo brotherhood is the DE warriors guild and very much confined to a tiny out of the way building in neriak. The only actual inconvenience of this is it makes you KOS to mobs in the DE camp in lfay, specifically one needed for the symbol of innoruuk clicky necklace evil clerics and shamans can do that casts a snare. I made this mistake on my cleric and had to have a friend charm the quest mob for me to circumvent. It was worth the mild inconvenience!

[Swish]

The banker used to be indifferent to everyone but yep, he does now scowl :(

However...you can still bank with him! (this from 5 minutes ago)

http://i.imgur.com/iQTbNbq.jpg

EDIT: Same applies to North Freeport, just keep behind the wall where you enter the bank, and target the left banker once you've scrolled back on your mouse wheel.

[Seredoc]

Guards are apprehensive now. Emerald warriors too, going to check and see if they have any quests to raise with merchants and keep the circle going. I intend to be able to walk up to that banker and flip him the bird and walk out without a CR.

But on to my point, using the window method you can reach him and bank using 3rd person view. If you open the door the whole platform aggros to assist the banker.

Now that I can bank I just need to be able to vendor and I'm good. Think the druids/rangers still hate me and I know the bards do.


Edit: Oh holy crap guess what I just found- a way in http://wiki.project1999.org/Orc_Vest

also http://wiki.project1999.org/Shark_Meat_Quest

[Clark]

The banker used to be indifferent to everyone but yep, he does now scowl :(

However...you can still bank with him! (this from 5 minutes ago)

http://i.imgur.com/iQTbNbq.jpg

EDIT: Same applies to North Freeport, just keep behind the wall where you enter the bank, and target the left banker once you've scrolled back on your mouse wheel.

ya that's how I use nfp bank good screenshot, is a shame more people don't know about

[Ravager]

I think that the banker is on merchants of kelethin faction that can only really be raised by freeing slaves in CB.

[Purdee]

there's a quest with the emerald warriors that raises merchant faction

http://wiki.project1999.org/Emerald_Warriors%27_Items

[Messianic]

I think that the banker is on merchants of kelethin faction that can only really be raised by freeing slaves in CB.

This is partially correct. Banker is on KelethinMerchants faction. The reason the merchants appear glower is because that's the floor for a true merchant; other non-merchant npcs on the same faction will appear scowl, glare, or whatever your true faction level is.

As far as quests, there are precious few that raise KelethinMerchants faction. The slave keys would be a horrendously slow way to do it (although none of them are fast).

http://wiki.project1999.org/Kelethin_Merchants

IMO, it's a massive timesink and not worth it the time to be able to bank in kelethin from an efficiency standpoint, unless that's just something you really really want - just level and remember that in Velious it won't matter much. The very small amount of extra time it might take you to simply bank in Neriak or wherever isn't worth the very large amount of extra time you'd spend in CB/Gfay apart from leveling...

[Malone88]

Now that I can bank I just need to be able to vendor and I'm good. Think the druids/rangers still hate me and I know the bards do.

Can sell to the druid (Crisyn?) in Steamfont by the Druid Ring. Only place
I know to sell for DE.

[Swish]

Yep there and the BB druid rings - think that's about it in terms of "easyish to get to" vendors.

[Calypso]

I have an Innoruuk troll shaman that banks and sells in Kelethin. I think the slave keys are the way to go, it's not hard to level there and be almost done by the time stuff is green.

there's a quest with the emerald warriors that raises merchant faction

http://wiki.project1999.org/Emerald_Warriors%27_Items


Oh yeah, this was also helpful once you can do it. Get someone to buy all the stuff off the merchants for you.

[Clark]

The banker used to be indifferent to everyone but yep, he does now scowl :(

However...you can still bank with him! (this from 5 minutes ago)

http://i.imgur.com/iQTbNbq.jpg

EDIT: Same applies to North Freeport, just keep behind the wall where you enter the bank, and target the left banker once you've scrolled back on your mouse wheel.

rebump you don't need faction just invis- picture works at banks all over norrath