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Halladar
11-24-2009, 10:09 AM
Last night I was grouped with an enchanter and mage in oasis. (this is a low level group, enchanter just got haste at 16, and mage wasn't much higher).

Talking with the mage he said his pet showed both burnout and enchanter haste on simultaneously.

1) I didn't see it of course.

2) I just didn't think it was supposed to work that way, I thought they took the same buff slot. But maybe it is supposed to work that way.

Elerion
11-24-2009, 10:32 AM
It should work like that. Regular spell haste (enchanter, shaman, classic bard, etc) is slot 1. Burnout haste is slot 4. That means they don't block each other, so a mage pet can have the superior enchanter haste without losing the other burnout buffs.

On the other hand, they are both the same type of haste (spell haste (Haste v1)), so the haste amounts won't stack. Only the highest haste buff will take effect.

Halladar
11-24-2009, 10:43 AM
okay, thanks.

Aeolwind
11-24-2009, 11:01 AM
Yeah, you could stack the 70% Wonderous Rapidity with Burnout on a pet. But not something like SoTS or Augment

Takshaka
11-24-2009, 11:38 AM
I was the mage in that group :) Now the question is whether or not quickness provides more haste than burnout does.

Elerion
11-24-2009, 11:40 AM
Quickness Detail | History | Stacking | Raw Data

Slot Description
1: Increase Attack Speed by 27% (L15) to 30% (L20) ,


Burnout Detail | History | Stacking | Raw Data

Slot Description
3: Increase STR by 15
4: Increase Attack Speed by 12% (L11) to 15% (L18)
6: Increase AC by 7



http://lucy.allakhazam.com

Some of the spells are slightly different in current EQ, but aside from levels, there are very few differences.

Caelor
11-24-2009, 02:38 PM
I have been casting augment on mage pets and told it was stacking with burnout.. is that not intended?

Halladar
11-24-2009, 02:46 PM
yes, you only benefit from the best haste though.

Apparently the burnout line is like augmentation from enchanters (guess they are same buff slot, but I'm not going to lucy) in that you get haste and some other stats. The haste from augment is not as much as from the pure haste line that enchanters and shamans get though.

Basically if you stack burnout and quickness, you get the ac and strength (? on a pet, does that do anything?) from burnout, and the better haste percentage from quickness.

I didn't think it worked that way, but I was wrong.

Insidious
11-24-2009, 03:26 PM
Can necro's cast their self pet haste and have ench/sham haste stack too? I heard it does not stack on this server.

Halladar
11-24-2009, 03:42 PM
I have been casting augment on mage pets and told it was stacking with burnout.. is that not intended?

Oh, you said augmentation.

I have no idea.