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happyhappy
03-04-2014, 06:28 AM
7h of skyshrine slaughtering logged, focused on guardians and garg guards.

-Zone tagged as an outside zone, should be indoor.

-Respawn time currently set at 6mins, I thought only starter zone had 6min timers?

-Green agro/assist doesn't work, even at max kos.

-Crystaline type npc corpses don't "fade" they just poof

-Crystaline spiders should be invis. (https://web.archive.org/web/20011125202009/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=107 comment on it around the middle)

-a gargoyle guard drops velium gargoyle pieces, which aren't on this timeline (started dropping in 2004)

-a gargoyle guard drops rarely a sapphire (13 so far no other gem), commander leuz drops sometimes a star ruby (second hand information), can't find a mention anywhere of them dropping gems.

-Sentry Enots uncommonly drops a giant head, got it twice, once on a fresh spawn, no mention anywhere of why he would.

-Sentry Marfat (gargoyle sentry) shouldn't be ingame (npc list: https://web.archive.org/web/20010409224708/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=107), pre revamp only guardian type merbs had the gargoyle model.

-Guardian Salva not on a faction, cons indif to max kos to CoV and drops guardian armor, a sapphire or coins everytime, other guards never drop coins, almost never sapphires and haven't seen a piece of armor off them so far.

-Speaking of guardian armor, other than on Salva I have not seen it drop in 7h of slaughtering, could sapphires be placeholder loot for armor? should have gotten multiple pieces by now (https://web.archive.org/web/20010427030315/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=107&mid=9828567259309 comment section states he got a dozen pieces in 7 hours of farming, in about that long I got a dozen sapphires and 3 pieces (the pieces only dropped off salva)

Nocsucow
03-04-2014, 06:39 AM
awesome work man .... thanks alot

Gwence
03-04-2014, 11:49 AM
skyshrine is 100% an outdoor zone, there's no mistake there

Buriedpast
03-04-2014, 12:05 PM
I've killed Ziglark Whisperwing 8 times now with no key. From memory he should be level 25ish at the start of velious, not level 45, and should also drop it 100%.

18 Kills, 2 keys.

This should be 80-90% drop rate fyi.

Sektor
03-04-2014, 12:42 PM
skyshrine is 100% an outdoor zone, there's no mistake there

Lazie
03-04-2014, 01:02 PM
Yeah I believe the respawn time of at least most of skyshrine was 10 minutes and 40 seconds. Will check.

Rogean
03-04-2014, 01:09 PM
This is exactly the type of attention to detail we like.

Thanks for the info.

Lazie
03-04-2014, 01:09 PM
Yeah according to tessmage it is 10m 40s. But it could have been changed over the years.http://www.tessmage.com/AllaClone/zone.php?name=skyshrine&mode=spawngroups

Buriedpast
03-04-2014, 01:30 PM
im in skyshrine wiz/sham if someone wants to do a proper crawl maze/castle etc.

Aeolwind
03-04-2014, 03:20 PM
im in skyshrine wiz/sham if someone wants to do a proper crawl maze/castle etc.

Unless it has been fixed, the maze may not be functioning properly. 1 of the teleports was not working correctly. Nilbog may have fixed it, but I'd rather be safe than lost.

You can I think bypass it, just be careful =D

nilbog
03-04-2014, 03:37 PM
This is exactly the type of attention to detail we like.

Thanks for the info.

This whole zone needs respawn times and loot really. It was released because the npcs and faction should be testable.

The rest of it is a work in progress. Won't take long to complete it once specifics are found. Anyone wanting to expedite this process can help with determining basic loot drops from regular npcs, and what common respawn time should be.

Yeah according to tessmage it is 10m 40s. But it could have been changed over the years.http://www.tessmage.com/AllaClone/zone.php?name=skyshrine&mode=spawngroups

Unfortunately tessmage is just a peq allakhazam clone that resembles allakhazam format. (The information is pulled from another emulator.)

thieros
03-04-2014, 04:11 PM
Well for the most part i say it is around a 30min pop time
(cept for the drake that drops the CS key it is around a 20min pop time) these are just rought estamites

- Jul 2001
-http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107&p=2#m99479953516555
- 30 Min Spawn timer (20 for Ziglark)

Once you kill the gargoyle guard in the corner start your timer. All mobs in CY have a 30 minute respawn. If you have enough time keep working your way around the courtyard in a counter clockwise fashion until you reach the trio of wyverns again and stop and wait for corner. Lower level groups will have to stop and wait longer due to down time. Make sure to harmony pull anything you decide to try.

- Dec 14 2001
- http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107#m10083665051648
- States Outdoor zone (harmony) & 30 minute respawn (at least in CY)

After that, if your group needs mana, go ahead and get it, you have 30 mins until your next pop (Sentry Emil). However, if you have mana, you can go back down towards the entrance to Skyshrine (WL), but instead of going left and out the gate, continue straight ahead and up the stairs. There you can find other wonderous freaks to pull/kill :p

Anyhow, we did that pattern and ended up with Sentry BP/Boots/Pauldrons/Robe/Leggings and a few other things too that I can't remember just yet hehe.

- June 19 2002
- http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107#m102446473848265
- 30 minute respawn timer & some loot references

Skyshrine changed drastically with yesterday's patch! Mobs and their placement have all changed. Since I haven't gone beyond the first few rooms, I can't comment on that, but I'll note what's changed up front.

First, the named quest Sentries (Kcor, Emil) have been replaced by non-named golems. In Ziglark Whisperwing's old room, there's now a merchant that sells generic equipent (food, drink, bandages etc.). Where Whereas before with Amiable Claws of Veeshan faction I could converse and do minor quests with them, now all mobs I've spoken to thus far tell me that I need to prove myself (i.e. raise faction) before they'll speak with me more. Looks like it's time to start slaying some more giants.

Checking on track, I can also see that the rest of the zone has undergone comparably drastic changes of inhabitants.

Looks like the Sleeper's awakening has caused a lot of chaos for Lord Yelinak and his watchful servants. I expect that the updates will be rolling in soon.

- Nov 20, 2002
- http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107#m103780970682184
- Basically states information past this date collected are potentially incorrect for launch velious.

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dont know if those are any help

nilbog
03-04-2014, 05:38 PM
Pending update:
Changed respawn time to 30 minutes for all skyshrine npcs except Yelinak. The npcs were mostly set for 6 minutes, so any further needed changes will need to be reported.

Shiftin
03-04-2014, 05:47 PM
I think Zig should be lower than 30 minutes

- Jul 2001
-http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/zones.html?zstrat=107&p=2#m99479953516555
- 30 Min Spawn timer (20 for Ziglark)


Ziglark should be lower per the comment:


RE: Spawn Rate?
QuoteReply
# Jul 10 2001 at 4:12 PM


Well for the most part i say it is around a 30min pop time
(cept for the drake that drops the CS key it is around a 20min pop time) these are just rought estamites

nilbog
03-04-2014, 05:49 PM
k, set him for 20 minutes.

happyhappy
03-04-2014, 05:55 PM
This whole zone needs respawn times and loot really. It was released because the npcs and faction should be testable.

The rest of it is a work in progress. Won't take long to complete it once specifics are found. Anyone wanting to expedite this process can help with determining basic loot drops from regular npcs, and what common respawn time should be.


From what I gather, anyone feel free to correct me.

Guardian type mobs (Named guardians and Gargoyle Guards) should drop Guardian Armor and Weapons
https://web.archive.org/web/20020227162824/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6203

Sentry type mobs (Golems) should drop Sentry Armor and Weapons
https://web.archive.org/web/20011111003136/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6280

Roughly 7-10% drop rate maybe?

Constructs (golems and gargs) should have a chance of dropping Velium ore in various sizes. (some already do)

42+ nameds had a chance to drop lower level spells

Higher level nameds should drop high level gems (diamonds etc) and mid level velious spells
https://web.archive.org/web/20010426234146/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5576
https://web.archive.org/web/20011214014437/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5584

Some of the upper tier nameds share a loot table of a ton of items, minor gems (jades, jaspers) and drop minor coins. But most often than not don't drop anything.
https://web.archive.org/web/20011214012234/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5553
https://web.archive.org/web/20030311092415/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6187 (2003 date, see comment from 2001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20010710070039/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6295 (see comment)
https://web.archive.org/web/20011227023212/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5581 (see comment)

Armor quest givers don't drop anything or give faction it seems?

S'all i got for now on this.

cimarron
03-05-2014, 12:33 PM
Looks like Ziglark Whisperwing spawn time should be 24mins not 20mins.

http://www.graffe.com/graffe1.0/quests/cobalt_scar_key/cobalt_scar_key_quest_print.htm

i think this is better then the around 20mins we have found so far.

nilbog
03-06-2014, 03:02 PM
I'm working on the loot tables for Skyshrine npcs now.


Guardian type mobs (Named guardians and Gargoyle Guards) should drop Guardian Armor and Weapons
https://web.archive.org/web/20020227162824/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6203

There are many comments about how the gargoyle guards do not drop the armor, and only the named guardians do. Currently, I set the named guardians only to drop it until further research is done.

Are Velium Gargoyle Pieces (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28434) classic? I put them on a drop for the Gargoyle npcs, but I want to make sure. They also have the chance of dropping Gargoyle Eye, Small Brick of Velium, and Small pieces of Velium.

Coin Purses (small, medium, large): Need input on these. Should be extremely rare drops.
What all should drop Tiny Coin Purse? From what I recall, it was any npc < level 40-50ish? With Medium Coin purses dropping from > lvl 50-55ish, and large from 55->60ish. That is a pure guess, could definitely use some input.

arsenalpow
03-06-2014, 03:18 PM
This thread probably isn't the place for this but we're going to need a non-classic solution for Ziglark when velious opens or it will turn into another LoIO prod camp scenario. The entire beta population was 75 people and there was like 10 of us staring at his spawn point, people trying to KS/cut the line, charming Zig to steal the engage, etc etc - it will only get worse when for real pixels are on the line.

Same goes for port teeth pickups. These are classic things that will create some very painful bottlenecks for at least the first week of velious.

happyhappy
03-06-2014, 03:37 PM
Are Velium Gargoyle Pieces (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28434) classic? I put them on a drop for the Gargoyle npcs, but I want to make sure.

Can't find a record of them dropping prior 2004

https://web.archive.org/web/20040909162548/http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28434

even in 2004 they didn't have the zone right yet.

magelo has it discovered in 2001, but magelo is datamined isn't it?

Mac Dretti
03-06-2014, 06:19 PM
This thread probably isn't the place for this but we're going to need a non-classic solution for Ziglark when velious opens or it will turn into another LoIO prod camp scenario. The entire beta population was 75 people and there was like 10 of us staring at his spawn point, people trying to KS/cut the line, charming Zig to steal the engage, etc etc - it will only get worse when for real pixels are on the line.

Same goes for port teeth pickups. These are classic things that will create some very painful bottlenecks for at least the first week of velious.

There's 2 methods to key isn't there? Quest or kill.

Roll red > non classic blue bottleneck bandaid

Skydash
03-06-2014, 06:20 PM
Bottleneck is as classic as a neckbeard.

Beards gonna get looong in Velious!

Mac Dretti
03-06-2014, 06:37 PM
https://web.archive.org/web/20010427000520/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5522


No Kromrif Faction By: Anonymous
Posted @ Thu, Apr 5th 9:40 AM Score: Default[2.00]
There is no Kromrif faction for this MOB at all. Kcor has the standard faction hits of all Skyshrine mobs.

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Faction By: ParadiseLost
23 posts
Posted @ Sun, Jan 28th 10:12 PM Score: Good[3.66]
On a recent raid of Skyshrine we killed Enot(sp?) and Kcor at least 30 times each I got no faction raises with Kromrif. Got the exact same changes with everything we killed Kromzek up; Claws of Veeshan and Yelinak down.

nilbog
03-08-2014, 02:01 PM
Are Velium Gargoyle Pieces (http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=28434) classic? I put them on a drop for the Gargoyle npcs, but I want to make sure. They also have the chance of dropping Gargoyle Eye, Small Brick of Velium, and Small pieces of Velium. Found comments about these on everlore during the era, so they will be on the tables.

Coin Purses (small, medium, large): Need input on these. Should be extremely rare drops.
What all should drop Tiny Coin Purse? From what I recall, it was any npc < level 40-50ish? With Medium Coin purses dropping from > lvl 50-55ish, and large from 55->60ish. That is a pure guess, could definitely use some input.
Could use some research help with the coin purses. If no one finds anything, I will likely apply them very rarely by level across the zone.

Have guardian, sentry, and gargoyle guard loots completed for next patch.

I came across one page that lists some of the loots. Unfortunately, it is not specific enough to use for it all, but the items listed can be looked into:
http://ninerealms.yuku.com/topic/1223#.UxtRokIuGJA

Schortt
03-10-2014, 02:58 PM
Killed a Large Velium Statue (236 -363 177) that was level 53/54 with a 60 monk and 52 mage. This guy is way too easy at the moment.

The max recorded hit I got was 152, it should be at least 182: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5576#m100204385034903

He also did not rampage and should: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5576#m99115158967861 http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5576#m98393124282744

Around 12k HP, which seems like less than a "cartload" as described here, but I didn't find any obvious HP numbers: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=5576#m97976490423524

Brut
03-11-2014, 06:36 AM
The mobs in general clearing up through the zone were very weak, think first named wurm we met (dark blue to lv60, located in hallways after the CS pond) was hitting 80 and had like couple thousand hp tops. Prty sure nothing we fought going up (Laoch nameds etc) hit above 170s, even when we got the 4 named wurms in the room with the huge orb at the top of the tower. Also we killed 2 of those wurms and both dropped a medium coin bag, not sure if they got the huge variety loot tables they oughta as per wiki.

Assumed the whole zone was a work in progress as far as mob adjustment went tho, so didn't rly take any particular numbers going up. Could try again with a healer.

happyhappy
03-13-2014, 07:03 PM
What's the current status of The zone, are the changes in and ready to check out?

Kindadar
03-14-2014, 01:55 PM
All of the armor quest mobs(Fe`Dhar) up where Supreme Laochsmith Psorin are KoS to me at Ally to Claws of Veeshan Faction. Perhaps they are on Yelinak tables?

Was the Spirit of Garzicor quest originally in Velious? The earliest post I can find is from August 2001.

-Kin

happyhappy
03-14-2014, 09:39 PM
all but two Fe'Dhars only have about 50hp, is that intended?

nilbog
03-16-2014, 02:33 PM
What's the current status of The zone, are the changes in and ready to check out?

Work in progress. Trying to finish off levels, stats, and loots. Then, will look into verifying quests.

All of the armor quest mobs(Fe`Dhar) up where Supreme Laochsmith Psorin are KoS to me at Ally to Claws of Veeshan Faction. Perhaps they are on Yelinak tables?

They are currently on Yelinak, yes.

Was the Spirit of Garzicor quest originally in Velious? The earliest post I can find is from August 2001.Need research done on availability of this quest.

all but two Fe'Dhars only have about 50hp, is that intended?

They had to be created, so right now they are pretty much name holders. Could use level information on the following npcs: I can then make their hp/ac/resists appropriate for level.

Umykith_Fe`Dhar
Qynydd_Fe`Dhar
Lothieder_Fe`Dhar
Ocoenydd_Fe`Dhar
Komawin_Fe`Dhar
Adwetram_Fe`Dhar
Nalelin_Fe`Dhar
Crendatha_Fe`Dhar
Onerind_Fe`Dhar
Asteinnon_Fe`Dhar
Jendavudd_Fe`Dhar
Elaend_Fe`Dhar


All that said, this zone is the roughest one we released for testing. After the total revamp in 2002, it was hard to research specifics. We'll get it done though. Keep up the good testing and research.

Kindadar
03-16-2014, 02:47 PM
Will take a look into that when I get home from work. Thanks nilbog!

Honest
03-17-2014, 03:18 PM
Umykith_Fe`Dhar
Qynydd_Fe`Dhar
Lothieder_Fe`Dhar
Ocoenydd_Fe`Dhar
Komawin_Fe`Dhar
Adwetram_Fe`Dhar
Nalelin_Fe`Dhar
Crendatha_Fe`Dhar
Onerind_Fe`Dhar
Asteinnon_Fe`Dhar
Jendavudd_Fe`Dhar
Elaend_Fe`Dhar




Umykith_Fe`Dhar: 35 http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6300
Qynydd_Fe`Dhar : 35 http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6259
Lothieder_Fe`Dhar: 35 http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6245
Ocoenydd_Fe`Dhar: 35 http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6253
Komawin_Fe`Dhar:
Adwetram_Fe`Dhar:
Nalelin_Fe`Dhar
Crendatha_Fe`Dhar
Onerind_Fe`Dhar
Asteinnon_Fe`Dhar
Jendavudd_Fe`Dhar
Elaend_Fe`Dhar

I can continue to post links if needed but it appears that they were all at lvl 35.

nilbog
03-18-2014, 12:32 PM
I can continue to post links if needed but it appears that they were all at lvl 35.

Thanks, fixed those.


To give an idea of which npcs do not have loottables, or loottables that are broken/bad, here they are:
select distinct npt.name,npt.loottable_id from npc_types npt join spawnentry spt on (spt.npcid=npt.id) left join spawn2 sp2 on (sp2.spawngroupid=spt.spawngroupid)
where spt.chance > '0' and sp2.zone = 'skyshrine' and npt.loottable_id not in (7478,7441,6414,11498,11484) // loottables completed and applied
and npt.class <> '41' and npt.race <> '127' // not vendors or invisible men
order by npt.level asc, npt.name asc // lowest lvls first, ordered by nameMerec, a_crystal_spider, Osino, Propron, Norsirx, Ahcaz, Bartender_Chalgoc, Bartender_Diphenyl, Bartender_Helvit, Bartender_Ovalene, Bouncer_Boulder, Commander_Leuz, Sarot, Yaced, Abudan_Fe`Dhar, Adwetram_Fe`Dhar, Asteinnon_Fe`Dhar, Chymot, Crendatha_Fe`Dhar, Elaend_Fe`Dhar, Erepon, Fardonad_Fe`Dhar, Jendavudd_Fe`Dhar, Komawin_Fe`Dhar, Lothieder_Fe`Dhar, Nalelin_Fe`Dhar, Ocoenydd_Fe`Dhar, Onerind_Fe`Dhar, Orthor_Velic, Qynydd_Fe`Dhar, Tetragon_Velic, Umykith_Fe`Dhar, Zalerez, Anex, a_hungry_cube, Bezeb, Lyphor, Beeliz_Fe`Dhar, Polhidrix_Velic, Suez, Saliz_Fe`Dhar, Telnaq, Laegdric_Fe`Dhar, Meonyc_Fe`Dhar, Oct_Velic, Zeldaile_Fe`Dhar, Zynil, a_shambling_cube, Veobryn_Fe`Dhar, Blodoc_Fe`Dhar, Calexic_Fe`Dhar, Dygwyn_Fe`Dhar, Lararith, Poalgin_Fe`Dhar, Pyrox, Jaylorx, Kalacs_Fe`Dhar, Nalginor_Fe`Dhar, Oazyln_Fe`Dhar, Qalcnic_Fe`Dhar, Teoc_Fe`Dhar, Tycyn_Fe`Dhar, Ualkic_Fe`Dhar, Wealrn_Fe`Dhar, Elyshum_Fe`Dhar, Jaelk, Taegria_Fe`Dhar, Vobryn_Fe`Dhar, Morachii_Fe`Dhar, Vellyn_Fe`Dhar, Dalshim_Fe`Dhar, Medry_Fe`Dhar, Riran_Fe`Dhar, Talgixn_Fe`Dhar, Tyddyn_Fe`Dhar, a_large_velium_statue, Tonvan_Fe`Dhar, a_Dalgortha, a_kromzek_spy, Elder_Hajnix, Elder_Kajind, Elder_Kalur, Laoch_Jaklor, Laoch_Uljux, Laoch_Yailin, Laoch_Zelnair, Laoch_Yubtin, Laoch_Zalbryn, #Eldriaks_Fe`Dhar, Laoch_Sabtooth, Laoch_Yralix, Tri_Velic, #Supreme_Laochsmith_Psorin, Laoch_Maljix, Laoch_Zialben, #Ralgyn, Invisman, Laoch_Juklax, Laoch_Nablibx, Laoch_Salthz, Laoch_Yilnor, Quadrix_Velic, Zaldin_Fe`Dhar, Laoch_Aewern, Laoch_Drazifs, Laoch_Ealkiq, Laoch_Laeor, Laoch_Drixnal, Lignark, The_Seer, Laoch_Chief_Seti, #Oglard, a_Huge_Gargoyle_Guard, Jualicn, Lawyla, Placlis, Talnifs, Talon_Velic, A_Huge_Golem_SentrySo, if you fight one of the npcs on the list, you should expect either no loot or incorrect loot. These need researching, tables created and applied. Usually the way it works is there are many npcs with the same tables. Since this is a work in progress, I thought I would share some of the behind the scenes action.

Honest
03-18-2014, 01:01 PM
No idea about the code but I can jump into the NPC loot tables and get a list together, with links. If anyone else is thinking about assisting in the above maybe we can split the list, that way we aren't doubling our efforts. If anyone is interested send me an a PM and we can work it out.

nilbog
03-18-2014, 01:06 PM
Pending update, applied zonewide loots for the coin purses.

tiny, small, medium, large will drop, rarely. The type of bag that will drop depends on the level of npc.

Schortt
03-18-2014, 01:11 PM
No idea about the code but I can jump into the NPC loot tables and get a list together, with links. If anyone else is thinking about assisting in the above maybe we can split the list, that way we aren't doubling our efforts. If anyone is interested send me an a PM and we can work it out.

Main thing to remember when you do this is to look for stuff before the big revamp in 2002. I have a few things scraped together at this point but it's pretty sparse and I'm waiting to find more/better info before I make a post.

Honest
03-18-2014, 01:22 PM
Main thing to remember when you do this is to look for stuff before the big revamp in 2002. I have a few things scraped together at this point but it's pretty sparse and I'm waiting to find more/better info before I make a post.

when was the revamp? I've been looking and a lot of these mobs had little information on them even 6 months after the release of velious.

Schortt
03-18-2014, 01:29 PM
Sometime around Oct/Nov 2002, I don't have the exact date handy: http://www.eqclerics.org/forums/showthread.php?t=13783

Schortt
03-18-2014, 03:23 PM
Zone page info: https://web.archive.org/web/20020811213836/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=107

Focused Ethereal Earring
I got 2 (focused ethereal earring) so far camping Lararith/Jaelk area. The wurms did not drop it, but one of the close by Fe'Dhars did (they're wyverns). I can solo the camp, but without malo I can hardly land a spell worth a damn :( Mobs in Skyshrine have abnormally high resists, and even with malo mobs resist first slow attempt 1/3 of the time. I've gotten up to 5 resists once after malo, of course I died :)
Oiled Greaves
I got a pair (oiled greaves) off a Fe'Dhar (wyvern), same as focused ethereal earring. All wyverns have the same loot table, and that loot table is enormous, but there is one catch - the good drops range from rare to super rare. Took me 3 days of nonstop campage to obtain them, but my monk is VERY happy with the greaves and the earring :)

There should be cubes in the maze (it was empty last time I was in there)
I have recently proven myself trustworthy enough to walk among the hallowed halls of the Skyshrine. One day, as I was looking with awe at the tapestries on the walls and not paying attention to where i was going, I ended up in a most peculiar place. It was a cavernous maze, filled with the cubes the dragons seem fond and wary of, abundant twists and turns, and several teleporters. I have since visited it many times, and each time have managed to exit it, but I was wondering if anyone knew what lay hidden within? Perhaps dragons of even greater wisdom and power then the ones in the more accesible areas? Or, dare I say it, the great ice dragon Yelinak himself? Please, post a reply here or, if you should happen to be on the Luclin server, send a tell to Sars. I would be most greatful for any help you could offer.


Mob page info: https://web.archive.org/web/20020811213836/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?zone=107
Laoch Ealkiq (Minimum Level: 61 Maximum Level:61): https://web.archive.org/web/20020830102956/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5593
Drops a coldstone wreath ac 3 5 wis 20m hat. Hits for max 210. Not to hard for a full group
Laoch Yralix: Warrior - Minimum Level: 58 Maximum Level:58 https://web.archive.org/web/20010903203207/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6237Supposedly drops the Coldstone wreath.
Laoch Zalbryn: Warrior - Minimum Level: 57 Maximum Level:57 https://web.archive.org/web/20020709034709/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6239
Hows is everyone one doing? just to let you guys know, this dude drops the "Titan's Fist" this weapon is usable by Clerics, Druids, Monks, Shadow Knights, Shamans(ME!!) and Warriors of all races. Damage/Delay is 22/36. Stats are +5 AGI +8 INT +14 WIS +7 SV COLD +7 SV FIRE and it is NOT - NO DROP. Thank you.
Laoch Zelnair: Paladin - Minimum Level: 55 Maximum Level:55 https://web.archive.org/web/20020313132226/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5589
can drop mantle of absorption
a Large Velium Statue https://web.archive.org/web/20020409101713/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5576
Known Loot:
Saldaren Spear
Winter's Fury
Best thing so far was a pair of normal diamonds. We killed this thing about 20 times last weekend. Has a fast respawn time and a cartload of HPs, but isn't that tough for 2 lvl 50+ groups...
He drops several spells, his lvl range is up to 55 he conned yellow to me at lvl 54 but blue to a 56.
He also drops a +7 int +25 mana earring (kin magi earring)
ALSO drops Winter's Fury 13/23 sexy weaponage +stats
dropped
Mythril Edged Skullsplitter
33/45 3agi/dex/str
procs a 100 pt DD
war/sk/pal
The Seer: Shaman - Minimum Level: 63 Maximum Level:63 https://web.archive.org/web/20020830105551/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=5553
When Glorious Rising took the seer he dropped a Brightwood Spear, which I believe is also found on other creatures in the zone, and for a lot less trouble!
He drops the skyfury scimitar but its a super rare drop! I'm the one in my group who won the roll and its okay.
He dropped some mask yesterday nite. Nuttin extra, like 4 ints and some other. Cannot remember :) (Wyvern Claw Mask)
This beast also drops one of the coolest helms in the game: Square Helm. 12ac, 6wis, 3str, all/all, silver plate look.

Item page info: using this list of drops as a starting point as it's pretty much the standard list for Fe`Dhars and Laochs post revamphttp://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6190
Bloodshrine Necklace http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4807#m99141159026859This drops off the wyverns and wurms
Charred Black Staff http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5182
This staff dropped for our group last night. It came off a named cube (one of the lower level cubes that sit together behind Oct Velic... Ortho Velic or Polhidral Velic I believe are their names). As with most weapons that drop off cubes, you can see this thing sitting inside while you fight it. Granted it could be one of a few different staves but a tip-off that you are going to get this weapon to drop is if the cube you are fighting mysteriously has a fire dmg shield. Nice weapon, but as it says above it IS No Drop.
i picked this up a couple of weeks ago in a wyvern grind in skyshrine. i've only seen it once, and i happened to be the only pure-caster in my small wyvern group. the stats are very nice...insane int, great saves, and a sprinkle of mana make the item gold. the damage shield is a novelty. hats off to whomever can actually justify the need / usefulness of the proc. the only time i ever actually attack anymore is during push formations on gating-mob raids. proc'ing a damage shield during that insanity is kinda cute. oh...and it makes farming bone chips more effecient or something. =P
This drops off of a Loach (roughly lvl 55ish Wyvern) deep in SS past the maze area.
It drops off named wyvverns. Raid group got one last night.
Despair Needle http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6792
Dropped in SS past the CS fountain, past Sentry Rotiart, past the cubes, past the named wurms that drop the quest books near the Wyvern Gates. I had it, used it, then relized... I'm a monk! It was fun to use and sold it first chance I had for about 100pp and the person who bought it was rather satified. Nice weapon for someone under lvl 20... Hits fast and the piercing skills go up fast...
Elder's Earring http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4075
Ive got mine today....drops of Loach deep in skyshrine (elder loach)
Just got one off a lev 50 or so wyvern in
the 'Library' on the bottom floor of tower after the maze. Its uber rare and made this druid very happy, our cleric not so happy hehe.
Falgiron Staff http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4392
we got one last night on our SS raid

it droped off one of the named wyverns right past the bridge
Frosted Gloves http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4768
there is a picture, so you can tell what they look like when worn. For what mob, it drops of randomly off almost ever mob in the zone.
Grayder's Cloak http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4378
This item drops from the Fe'Dhar wurms just before the maze part. Very easy for a single 50ish group to get to and hunt for hours.
I won the roll on the second one of these that dropped, for those who don't know this drops off of various named wyverns at wyvern gate and to my knowledge there is no mob named Grayden.
I got mine off of the Loaches, seems the loot table is random though...tougher the mob, better chance of dropping something nice I take it =). I've also seen it drop off of the Fe'Dhars too or whatever they're called.
Jar`Nal Long Sword http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4407
This is infact a random drop ....Seems to drop anywhere past the spy room.
Kin Lore Necklace http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5037
Our group found one last night off of a Named cube that conned green at 55. I thought this would have come from a lvl 60 cube but was amazed when I saw it!
I think this is a random off any of the named cubes. my guild and another went to Skyshrine a couple days ago, killed a named level 60 cube, dropped this necklace, a Bloodshrine Necklace, and when we killed it the second time we got some cloak. Tough fight but well worth it although I must say other than the kin lore necklace the other drops were pretty crappy
Kin Magi Earring http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4429
Any mob LvL 51 And up Will Drop It. This Means You need to go to the top of SS to get it
This earring drop off a named Wyvern in Skyshrine near some libary looking thing. With another named Wyvern Guard named Lyoch.
oobah! hehe
Laoch Combat Gauntlets http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4865
To obtain these gaunts you must kill Loach's in Skyshrine. Loach's are lvl 58-61, doable with one group but usually lose a person or 2. Crap like this dropping from a dragon level encounter is a slap in the face, not to mention these are a RARE drop usually Loach's drop a couple silver and every once in a while a Peridot
hehe doesnt always drop from loach's. SS is from me, we have got multiple pairs of gloves off the Fe'dhars.
Mantle of Absorption http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4382
Dropped off a 55th Wyvern Named Laoch Zelnair. 5 of us brave souls that got through the Maze and fought him to end a night. Well 4 if you count that the 58 SK went LD halfway through the fight.
Mythril Edged Skull Splitter (note, this is the correct spelling for Velious - was changed to "Mithril Edged Skull Splitter" post revamp http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5082
Got one last night on my Skyshrine raid among lots of other things, but yah, it's real...Gave it to a SK friend. Drops off wyverns btw, and prolly cubes.
Nope this ones real was looted off a Wyvren in the tower area
Mystical Laig Staff http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4873
Don't remember the name but it dropped off a named wyvern.
Oiled Greaves http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4383
Ive heared they drop off of Wyvrens in skyshrine.
Ive also heared they drop from a named cube in skyshrine (this seems more locical) but i am not sure. This is all heresay but i hope it helps.
The item dropped off a one of the many wvyerns in Skyshrine.
You need to head behind the rotiart guy up and keep going and going and going until you come to wyverns... not sure if they come off the lvl 60ish loaches or the blue con orange color wyverns, but they come off one of them.

They also drop 7wis 25mana earrings (Elder's Earring), so dont be stingy with yer love clerics...

if you are on kael faction get yer ass to skyshrine till you get one of these for your monk... They are basically the best monk greaves you can use till temple of veeshan, plane of mischief. Flayed paebala legs are great too but chances of yer monk getting those are way less than camping oiled greaves.

Basically find a nice wyvern spot you can handle and keep killing and killing till you get greaves. Maybe take a few days, but you'll get plenty of other stuff anyway.
They drop in back of SS off any of the dragon kin back there.
Oiled Greaves can drop off any of the named Wyverns in the upper levels. That's where our crew got them from.
Runed Writ http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4410
i got my druid one of these..was very happy with it..drops off some named wyverns pretty deep in, dont even attempt it unless youve got a full group of about level 53+, casters need 54+ prolly...i do it normally with full group of 49+ or so...they drop a lot of nice caster gear....they are in a room right past the named wurms (Fe`Dhars)
Saldaren Spear http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4210
It drops in the Cube room in Skyshrine. I saw three of them given away in one hour. One of them was a level 30 rogue with good skyshrine faction, he just walked up there and looted it.
urmm, no, hehe, this little baby drops off one of Lord Yelineks guards.

and I know where it drops also, cos, I got it
This weapon will drop off of ANY of the wyverns in skyshrine, not sure about the wurms. Thats where I got mine. And you dont need to be level 58, this area is easly grouped at the low 50's high 40's.
True it is random loot off cubes and drakes, don't need to be 58, just have good group and kill buttloads cause it is rare as a virgin over 18 in L.A.
I got mine off the huge golem up the first staircase in the shambling cube room. (a Large Velium Statue)
I got mine off a named wyvern in SS that was level 58 and fortunately was only person in group that could use it, so I got it at 53. I think its a fairly common (relatively speaking) drop off mobs in Skyshrine that are 58+. What makes me think this is I have a screenshot of 2 of the 3 highest level cubes in SS with these spears in them at the same time. As anyone knows who has been there, the cubes show the loots before they are killed quite often. The screenshot was on Tunare server with the Uber level 60 Cleric Omniscience Holylight standing inside one of the cubes playing with the spear. Anyone with good faction in SS can go in and see what the cubes have to offer up and then try to get a raid together for the items. Good luck people, this spear is awesome

Skyfury Scimitar http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4398
Ok I read a lot of BS on this thread and very little of substance, so since Skyshrine is my pet dungeon, here we go - this is a rare
random drop of lev 50 ish wyverns. It can drop off wyverns before and after the maze.
In 5 raids and maybe 8 single groups I have seen 3 drop so its not uber rare. Just most
people are dragon lovers and miss out on all the phat lewt in skyshrine. Fine by me I'll
just sell mine for 25k cause I know another will drop at some point. Good luck to all who want this.

Oh and by wyverns, I mean fe'dhar.
This item dropps from the cubes in skyshrine. They are not that far in and i beleave this is a randon dropp from all of the cubes.
I was on a guild raid today in Skyshrine. we were camping the 2nd Wyvern Gate. It was dropped off a cube. I understand that it is a random drop off any cube, and maybe off any MOB in the zone.
Dropped off a Vellious statue fer us, and then later in the raid off a Wyvern...I won the roll on one of em, so am now wieldin dual Furies, Winter's Fury and Sky Fury ;)
On the Innoruuk server last night one of these drop off of a Wyvern near the second gate camp
I have seen this weapon drop off wyverns cubes and other various mobs in SS so it would appear to be a random drop for zone.
Square Helm http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5262
This is not Fake we got one off a Wyvern in Sky Shrine on the Rodcet Nife Server Blader now wears it.
I have one, and got it off of Large Wyverns, about a floor down from Lord Yenilak, I believe the area we were pulling from is called the Library.
Titans Fist http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4728
This Hammer drops off Random mobs in the back...ie Wyverns...Cubes....Wurms. They all share the same loot table so there is always a chance of this and other items droping.
Totem of Disruption http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4922
It is Dropped by the Large Cubes(not sure on exact name, cant miss them though) , Way past the Courtyard, at 52 my Wizard can barely dent one and they take 2 groups 50+ to bring down.
Winters Fury http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4419
I earned this sword of a wyrvern, cant remeber the name sorry all call me stupid 8*) But this is one very outstanding sword! It has better attck/dly than a css aand its stats are great as well. I am proud to wield and will probably never sell it. My problem is the look, it looks like a regular fine steel long sword.
This weapon is dropped by a level 54 shimming cube in skyshine. I got lucky on the dice and won the roll. You have to go into the maze to find the cube.
Won this blade months ago down here , dropped off a cube deep in...then yesterday I manage to win the sister to it, Sky Fury ;) so am dual wieldin the Furies now ! woot!
O.K. here goes. This sword and it's sister blade (both happily weilded by me) dropped off a named Wyvern in Skyshrine near the bridge high above the "fountain" zone out point. They really compliment each other nicely but why on earth do they both look like fine steel weapons ? Shame Verant, with "fury" in their names you would think the model would be nice.

P.S. 2 of the Skyfury scimitar dropped on the same night for us, both off named wyvern (I don't think it matters which one)
This dropped from the named wyvern Oazlyn Fe'Dar or something close to that who is in the small 3 spawn room right before the first bridge.
Wurm Bone Ring http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4232
Random Wyvern I believe. I got one tonight from one in the Library
Random Drop. I have seen it drop off sevral mobs. Once off one of the named wurms on second floor. Also seen a REALLY nice int caster shawl from same guy. (probably Wurm Lord Shawl)
Wurm Lord Shawl http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4299
This is not a Quest Item... I looted it two nights ago off of a Named Wyvern before the First telepad past the Grand Ramp hall (my own name for the area). I have spent the last couple weeks raiding this wonderful zone and with 1 balanced group all over level 50 you can have a Blast hunting and getting totally awesome RANDOM loots. I have looted the same items off of completely random mobs, so stick with it and kill everything.. OH, the stats are wrong, it is 7 str and agility, and only 6 intelligence and 6 charisma.
This was from a normal wyvern in SS near the maze up top............the 50hp 25mana with the bonus stats of 6int/cha own.
Wyvern Claw http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4863
What do you expect from a common drop off random creatures, God weapons? Sheesh, if you got 20 of them, don't you think its NOT supposed to be Uber? Just have fun and pass them out to twinks.
Wyvern Claw Mask http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4384
I got this mask on a raid in Skyshrine recently, it dropped off of a loach that was deep past the maze area, so I doubt that this item will affect the price of the sheer bone mask, as it is fairly hard to get to. (Great oowomp is much easier to camp)
Wyvern Hide Boots http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4385
These boots, along with the rest of the new Skyshrine items, drop from L54-61+ named wyverns deep in Skyshrine.
Our group went of stairs to a great room past the water fountain room. We killed Fe'Dhar wyverns and these are a rare random drop off those wyverns. They are blue/white to a level 53 ranger. We got 2 in one night as well as skyfury and winter's fury swords.
I just obtained these boots today, they are a random and rare drop off any wyverns in Skyshrine. The haste is approximately 15% from what I've heard, I have yet to test it. Even without the haste, these are still excellent boots for monks.
Got a pair about an hour ago off one of the big nasty cubes in SS. I'm way to damn tired to parse the logs and check the haste if any.
Got them last night it dropped off of a cube named Oct Velic.
Just dropped. Was up in the area past 2 named wurms where there are several named Wyverns behind a gate (Fe`Dhars). I don't remember which wyvern they dropped off, but all the wyverns were blue to a 53 paladin. Not sure on exact haste % but it is higher than the Hangman's Noose I was using previously, so I'm not complaining. Especially since they have better stats than the Noose as well.
Wyvern Hide Tunic http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4411
RE: Rare drop from the named wyverns in the upper part of Skyshrine: Aye like he said in the second level of SS off of the named wyverns. Been beating them down for several days and this is the first we have seen drop. Its a random drop like almost all of the loot up there. As far as a KSing druid or whatever class may be trying you'd be hard pressed to get to the area wear they drop solo even at 60 due to the amount of mob heavy areas that see invis. Also these guys are like super magis resistant.
Drops off of wyverns in Skyshrine. A group of guildmates and I looted one in the first room of Fe'Dhars tonight. Very happy with my new tunic :)
Wyvern Wing Cape http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5641
Got this in Skyshrine a couple weeks ago, dropped off a level 60 named Cube thing, also dropped some nice necklaces.
It Also drops from some wyrvens, My friend got one in skyshine like a week ago - so it couldnt drop off anything good cuz he's a wussy ;)
Xialn Mask http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4386
got this last night off one of those lvl 60 cubes just before you start into the maze
3 of this masks dropped for us from the wyverns behind the seer room.




Delgin's Sceptre - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4718
Ice Enchanted Bracer - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4379
Laoch Meditation Beads - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5694
Laoch Warhammer - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4381
Runed Elder Staff - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4864
Velium Etched Circlet - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5918
Wurm Scale Cape - no drop info on alla http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=3963

Added a bunch more items and a few more mobs. I did all the items on the page I linked up above so I started chasing down other items that showed up in various comments. There's still plenty more to look into.

nilbog et al: If this format with all the evidence included is too busy let me know and I'll summarize the data in a spreadsheet or something else easier to read.

Ele
03-19-2014, 11:18 AM
Ran around SS this morning found or noticed missing the following:

Currently: Dubious to Claws, Scowls to Yelinak.


The following mobs were Scowls to me (presuming on Yelinak faction):
Suez (Should see invis (https://web.archive.org/web/20021114145909/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6288), currently does not.)
Qalcnic Fe`Dhar
Dygwyn Fe`Dhar
All Quest Armor Fe`Dhars

The following mobs were indifferent (presuming that they do not have an associated faction, should be Claws):
Laegdric Fe`Dhar
Laoch Drixnal
Laoch Yralix
Guardian Salva (posted in OP)


Missing mobs and pathing:
1. Shambling Cube @ 360, 581, 36 (Missing)
2. Shambling Cube @ ~ 430, 165, 24 (Missing, see image for pathing, thinking they should both have the same pathing and cross over each other)
3. Shambling Cube @ ~ 400, 165, 24 (Missing, see above)
4. Shambling Cube @ 1979 1044, 3 (Not pathing, see image for pathing)
5. Shambling Cube @ 1007, 1666, -26 (Missing, not pathing, see image for pathing)

Placement:
6. Huge Golem Sentry Currently @ 2600 2400 -160; Should be on other side of dragon statue at ~ 2725, 2400, -160 (see image for reference)


Reference Image:

http://i.imgur.com/FEuJbWP.png

nilbog
03-21-2014, 12:43 PM
The following mobs were Scowls to me (presuming on Yelinak faction):
Suez (Should see invis (https://web.archive.org/web/20021114145909/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6288), currently does not.)
Qalcnic Fe`Dhar
Dygwyn Fe`Dhar
All Quest Armor Fe`Dhars

The following mobs were indifferent (presuming that they do not have an associated faction, should be Claws):
Laegdric Fe`Dhar
Laoch Drixnal
Laoch Yralix
Guardian Salva (posted in OP)



Fixed, pending update. Also a couple more random ones had no faction.

Vandy
03-26-2014, 08:09 PM
Skyshrine Maze problems.
http://www.allakabor.com/eqatlas/images/skyshrine2.jpg

Missing 4 Shambling Cubes inside the maze
Shambling Cube_______-564.7, 1702.1 198.7_______Stationary
Shambling Cube_______-374.4, 2696.2, 198.7 H-63 _______ Has Pathing See Map
Shambling Cube_______-384, 2979, 198, H-127_______Has Pathing See Map
Shambling Cube_______-470, 2170, 198, H-130_______Has Pathing See Map

Teleporters (map above, letters with a red/yellow rectangle are teleports, Letters alone are destinations

Map Label_______ Location(X,Y,Z)_______Destination(X,Y,Z)
O to O _______ -1100, 2340, 198 _______ -2000, 2000, 198
Q to Q _______ -1180, 2618 198 _______ -500, 2700, 198

happyhappy
04-06-2014, 06:10 PM
Sentry Hubniq, currently not on any faction.

Buellen
04-22-2014, 11:13 PM
Hello everyone.


Addressing Sentry /guardian armor drops.


Doing some searches of everlore i came up with this

http://web.archive.org/web/20020105111948/http://www.everlore.com/quests/default.asp?mode=35&id=429361

under sentry/guardian armor

Seems to imply that any sentry or guardian can drop the armor pieces not just named.

Question : when you say named sentry are you referring to for example Sentry Wolsra / Sentry Edilsdum.

Buellen
04-22-2014, 11:18 PM
Hello again


Some more information on guardians

http://web.archive.org/web/20020102182126/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?BID=334428&mode=show

under Guardian Sebblep


http://web.archive.org/web/20020102181754/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?BID=334429&mode=show

under gaurdian selucreh

http://web.archive.org/web/20020228114848/http://www.everlore.com/bestiary/beastdetails.asp?BID=317919&mode=show

under sentry Dumptew

Seem to me that all guardian can drop the amour listed as this guy is near bottom levels for these type of mob.


On another NOte the Money drop is horrible of these guys Coin loot is almost always less than 10Gold pieces rarely is it 2PP.

Sylexis
04-24-2014, 04:49 PM
Unless it has been fixed, the maze may not be functioning properly. 1 of the teleports was not working correctly. Nilbog may have fixed it, but I'd rather be safe than lost.

You can I think bypass it, just be careful =D

Not sure if this is fixed yet but when I ran through the maze I am pretty sure I had to Use this map (http://www.steveprutz.com/eq/images/skyshrine_maze_alighieri.jpg) to get through it by starting at one, running to two, which ported me to three, then running to four, which ported me to five, then I had to turn back around and run over five again which took me to the correct spot so I could run to six, which ported me to seven and then I ran to 8 to get out of the maze. I gave the instructions to the rest of the raid and everyone got through the maze the exact same way last week.

Found comments about these on everlore during the era, so they will be on the tables.

Could use some research help with the coin purses. If no one finds anything, I will likely apply them very rarely by level across the zone.

Have guardian, sentry, and gargoyle guard loots completed for next patch.

I came across one page that lists some of the loots. Unfortunately, it is not specific enough to use for it all, but the items listed can be looked into:
http://ninerealms.yuku.com/topic/1223#.UxtRokIuGJA

We started killing everything from the middle of Yelinaks tower all the way up to his room, the only loot we got at all was coin purses and I think the Kromzek spy dropping his quest loot for hsagra's wrath quest. We ended up with like 2 medium and 1 small coin purse, which isn't what I would call rare unless we got super lucky. Nothing else seemed to be dropping.

Fuddwin
04-26-2014, 04:04 PM
Where does the maze in that key start? This zone totally confuses me and the freakin maps do me no good... I ran around looking for Druid Quest mob for about 30 to 45 mins the other night then just gave up...

nilbog
05-05-2014, 01:41 PM
Sentry Hubniq, currently not on any faction.

Fixed a while ago.


Question : when you say named sentry are you referring to for example Sentry Wolsra / Sentry Edilsdum.

Yes. All the sentries should be able to drop sentry armor; all guardians should be able to drop guardian.

Not sure if this is fixed yet but when I ran through the maze I am pretty sure I had to Use this map (http://www.steveprutz.com/eq/images/skyshrine_maze_alighieri.jpg) to get through it by starting at one, running to two, which ported me to three, then running to four, which ported me to five, then I had to turn back around and run over five again which took me to the correct spot so I could run to six, which ported me to seven and then I ran to 8 to get out of the maze. I gave the instructions to the rest of the raid and everyone got through the maze the exact same way last week.

There is one of the zone points. (5->6) on that map that was not working. I put in an invisible man that will teleport you to the correct area, but hopefully we can find a better solution as there is a slight delay before it picks you up.

We started killing everything from the middle of Yelinaks tower all the way up to his room, the only loot we got at all was coin purses and I think the Kromzek spy dropping his quest loot for hsagra's wrath quest. We ended up with like 2 medium and 1 small coin purse, which isn't what I would call rare unless we got super lucky. Nothing else seemed to be dropping.

Zone is still being built. There are a multitude of npcs that had existing (bad) loottables. Medium coin purses were a straight 35% drop from them.

For next patch, I set all of the loottables to 0 that I haven't made myself. This really limits the npcs that can drop loot to guardians, sentries, Ziglark, and Yelinak. I figure its easier to kill an npc, get NO coin drop, and realize it has no loottable, instead of a possibly incorrect one.

Regarding the coin purses specifically, after next patch, it will be based on the zonewide drops per level, and more testable.

There will be sweeping changes to skyshrine coming up. Npc stats, (hps, resists, etc) will be redone. Then, loot, quests, and any specifics. We released this zone in an alpha state, to get as much feedback as possible. Of all the zone revamps, they really did a lot to change skyshrine in 2002.

Where does the maze in that key start? This zone totally confuses me and the freakin maps do me no good... I ran around looking for Druid Quest mob for about 30 to 45 mins the other night then just gave up...

1 to 2. 3 to 4. 5 to 6. 7 to 8. It will work that way after next patch, at least. As mentioned above, there is a slight delay at point 6.

Buellen
05-06-2014, 01:30 AM
Awsome

Looking forward to skyshrine changes.

Thank you again nilbog and rest of devs.

nilbog
05-12-2014, 05:31 PM
Missing mobs and pathing:
1. Shambling Cube @ 360, 581, 36 (Missing)
2. Shambling Cube @ ~ 430, 165, 24 (Missing, see image for pathing, thinking they should both have the same pathing and cross over each other)
3. Shambling Cube @ ~ 400, 165, 24 (Missing, see above)
4. Shambling Cube @ 1979 1044, 3 (Not pathing, see image for pathing)
5. Shambling Cube @ 1007, 1666, -26 (Missing, not pathing, see image for pathing)

Placement:
6. Huge Golem Sentry Currently @ 2600 2400 -160; Should be on other side of dragon statue at ~ 2725, 2400, -160 (see image for reference)


Fixed, pending update.

Skyshrine Maze problems.
http://www.allakabor.com/eqatlas/images/skyshrine2.jpg

Missing 4 Shambling Cubes inside the maze
Shambling Cube_______-564.7, 1702.1 198.7_______Stationary
Shambling Cube_______-374.4, 2696.2, 198.7 H-63 _______ Has Pathing See Map
Shambling Cube_______-384, 2979, 198, H-127_______Has Pathing See Map
Shambling Cube_______-470, 2170, 198, H-130_______Has Pathing See Map

Teleporters (map above, letters with a red/yellow rectangle are teleports, Letters alone are destinations

Map Label_______ Location(X,Y,Z)_______Destination(X,Y,Z)
O to O _______ -1100, 2340, 198 _______ -2000, 2000, 198
Q to Q _______ -1180, 2618 198 _______ -500, 2700, 198

Fixed, pending update.

nilbog
05-12-2014, 05:37 PM
Here are some more maps.

nilbog
05-12-2014, 05:38 PM
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nilbog
05-12-2014, 05:41 PM
The second map there lists giant spy in the pool room past the courtyard.

Was that his location in classic?

Pending update,
added the cube and guardian pathing before maze entrance.
added cube pathing in second image near giant velium statue.
added grid for jaelk
added grid for nalginor fe`dhar

nilbog
05-13-2014, 05:01 PM
Pending update,

added missing crystal spider spawn. did spider loots, invis upon spawning, 3 +/-1 hour spawn time, indifferent faction (will be assisted by cov)

shambling cubes progressively get higher level as you get progress through the zone. still working on their loots, but their level will determine which items they can drop.

Have a working list of loot, but it will take some time to implement. A giant, confusing list.


Lower level shambling cubes - research suggests they should only drop:
Brightwood Spear Dmg 9, Dly 24. +5 Strength +4 Agility Ra Sk B Ro Wr A Shambling Cube 42
Walrusbone Shield +14 AC +5 Strength +5 Wisdom +5 Magic Resist Ra Sm D C P Sk Ro Wr A Shambling Cube 44


However, they do fall under the 'multiple creatures' category, which for their level would add some of the following:

Mystical Laig Staff Dmg 10, Dly 28. +15 Intelligence +25 Mana N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 40 Coldstone Wreath +3 AC +5 Wisdom +20 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 40
Totem of Disruption +5 Wisdom +5 Intelligence +20 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 35 Frosted Gloves +7 AC +4 Intelligence +10 Cold Resist All Classes Multiple Creatures 40


So, I'm not sure about those. Progressing higher in levels, it seems most npcs could drop items from the following list. I do believe it should be separated in some way, to exclude higher end from lower end.

Bloodshrine Necklace +5 AC +50 Hit Points All Classes Multiple Creatures 50
Charred Black Staff Dmg 10, Dly 25. +13 Intelligence +5 Magic Resist +5 Fire Resist +3 Cold Resist +3 Posion Resist +3 Disease Resist +15 Mana Wz Mg E N Multiple Creatures 50
Delgin's Sceptre Dmg 8, Dly 24. +5 Strength +2 Agility +3 Wisdom +3 Magic Resist +4 Cold Resist +10 Mana C D Sm Multiple Creatures 55
Elder's Earring +7 Wisdom +25 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 60
Falgiron Staff Dmg 11, Dly 30. +12 Intelligence +8 Fire Resist +8 Cold Resist +45 Mana Wz Mg E N Multiple Creatures
Grayder's Cloak +12 AC +9 Wisdom +7 Magic Resist +7 Cold Resist +20 Mana C D Sm Multiple Creatures
Griffins Sword Dmg 38, Dly 45. +10 Strength +15 Agility Wr Sk P Ra Multiple Creatures
Ice Enhanced Bracer +5 AC +3 Strength +2 Dexterity +12 Cold Resist All Classes Multiple Creatures
Jar'Nal Long Sword Dmg 9, Dly 24. +4 Agility +6 Dexterity Wr Ro B Ra Multiple Creatures
Joined Ethereal Cape +4 AC +4 Intelligence +25 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures
Kin Lore Necklace +8 Wisdom +5 Magic Resist +5 Fire Resist +3 Cold Resist +3 Posion Resist +3 Disease Resist +45 Mana Ra D B Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Kin Magi Earring +7 Intelligence +25 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 45
Laoch Combat Gauntlets +7 AC +4 Strength +3 Stamina +5 Agility All Classes Multiple Creatures 45
Laoch Warhammer Dmg 18, Dly 39. +4 Strength +6 Wisdom +4 Cold Resist Wr C D Sm Multiple Creatures
Lath Drinor Dmg 12, Dly 23. Range 40. +5 Strength +3 Agility +8 Magic Resist +8 Cold Resist N E Mg Wz Ra Sk B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures
Mantle of Absorption +10 AC +3 Strength +4 Magic Resist +8 Cold Resist All Classes Multiple Creatures
Mythril Edged Skull Splitter Dmg 33, Dly 45. +3 Strength +3 Agility +3 Dexterity +4 Magic Resist +4 Cold Resist +4 Disease Resist Wr Sk P Ra Multiple Creatures 45
Oiled Greaves +15 AC +7 Strength +20 Hit Points +5 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures
Runed Elder Staff Dmg 11, Dly 35. +50 Hit Points +50 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 45
Runed Writ +8 Wisdom +8 Intelligence +3 Magic Resist +3 Fire Resist +3 Cold Resist +3 Posion Resist +3 Disease Resist C D Sm Wz Mg E N Multiple Creatures
Saldaren Spear Dmg 11, Dly 21. +5 Strength +5 Stamina +4 Magic Resist +3 Fire Resist +2 Cold Resist +1 Disease Resist Ra Sk B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures 58
Seer Lore Book +13 Intelligence +40 Mana All Classes Multiple Creatures 45
Skyfury Scimitar Dmg 13, Dly 23. +8 Wisdom +7 Magic Resist +7 Cold Resist +35 Mana Ra D P Sk B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures
Square Helm +12 AC +3 Agility +6 Wisdom All Classes Multiple Creatures
Titans Fist Dmg 22, Dly 36. +5 Agility +14 Wisdom +8 Intelligence +7 Fire Resist +7 Cold Resist Wr Mk Sk C D Sm Multiple Creatures
Twisted Oaken Staff Dmg 10, Dly 30. +17 Intelligence +30 Mana Wz Mg E N Multiple Creatures
Vindication Dmg 35, Dly 45. +8 Strength +9 Dexterity +12 Posion Resist +12 Disease Resist +30 Hit Points Sk P Multiple Creatures
Winter's Fury Dmg 13, Dly 23. +6 Strength +25 Hit Points Ra P Sk B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures
Wurm Bone Ring +3 AC +5 Strength +3 Agility +5 Dexterity +3 Magic Resist +3 Fire Resist +3 Cold Resist All Classes Multiple Creatures
Wurm Lord Shawl +12 AC +7 Strength +7 Agility +6 Intelligence +6 Charisma +5 Magic Resist +5 Fire Resist +5 Cold Resist +5 Posion Resist +5 Disease Resist +40 Hit Points +25 Mana Wz Mg E N Multiple Creatures
Wurm Scale Cape +9 AC +7 Strength +7 Stamina +7 Magic Resist All Classes Multiple Creatures
Wyvern Claw Dmg 7, Dly 24. +3 Strength +3 Posion Resist +3 Disease Resist Ra B Ro Wr Multiple Creatures 45
Wyvern Claw Mask +4 AC +4 Dexterity +4 Intelligence All Classes Multiple Creatures 50
Wyvern Hide Boots +6 AC +5 Stamina +5 Agility +5 Dexterity All Classes Multiple Creatures 54
Wyvern Hide Tunic +13 AC +5 Stamina +8 Wisdom +6 Intelligence +5 Magic Resist +7 Fire Resist +10 Mana N E Mg Wz D Mk Multiple Creatures 54
Xialn Mask +12 AC +6 Wisdom +6 Intelligence +6 Charisma +5 Fire Resist +5 Cold Resist +5 Posion Resist +5 Disease Resist N E Mg Wz Multiple Creatures 54

If someone sees a pattern here, or knows more specifically about skyshrine, could use the help.

pasi
05-15-2014, 03:03 AM
The lower level cubes shared that massive table. I think all that differed from Cubes to FehDhars to Laochs was the drop rate - and even then - I'm not so sure on that being much different. I've seen almost all of these items off of the first set of FehDhars.

I'm referring to the named cubes that were up the ramp before the room with the high level cubes. They could definitely drop Lath Drinors and were occasionally farmed by melee for that reason.

Ele
05-15-2014, 11:17 AM
The second map there lists giant spy in the pool room past the courtyard.

Was that his location in classic?

The "Giant Spy Room" referenced on that map is the Dragon Tooth Choker quest ("Friend of the Kin or "Kromzek Spy" depending on website), the one involving Sentry Kale, Wenglawks, and Sentry Rotiart. GIve Rotiart the dispelling device and it turns him into a Kromzek Spy.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020103024605/http://www.everlore.com/quests/default.asp?id=340541&mode=35

Kromzek Spy [Subscribe to this document]
Qinadan | 1/24/2001 5:51:20 PM

Talk to Sentry Kale to get the quest. This is 1 of the 3 quests you get from him. You hail him and when he asks you question whther you wish to become friend of the kins, this quest will be given to you. When you anser him in correct manner like I wish to become friend of the kin, he will talk about how there is Kromzek spy amongst them and that Wenglawks in Kael has more info. Go in invis, and give him the note from Kale and 100pp and you'll get a note back. If you are brave enough, you can hand him the stuffs in there with lot of giants around OR you can wait outside since he does come out from the root and walk up the corriodor. Not sure how often he does but he does come out every now and then. If you want to take safe approach, stay invis and wait for him to come out and when he does, hand him 100pp and note fast so he won't be out of range for the transaction. Once you do, he'll give you a lore/nodrop dispelling device that looks like a card. He tells you to give it to Sentry Rotiart and get ready to fight. He is in a room w/ a cube and pool. Give him the dispelling device, he'll change into lv 53 Kromzek spy. Warning, he is tough.... Highly magic resistant. You have to be in melee range to cast which kinda sucks. You'll need a strong group for this. Once you kill him, he will drop lore/no drop spy note. Turn that into Sentry Kale to receive faction and dragon tooth choker. Dragon Tooth Choker
ac8, str5, 30hp, fire 10,cold/magic/poison5, weight 0.9. head/neck
all tank/hybirds can equip it even monk/rogue/bard


The Giant's Bane/Hsagra's Wrath "a Kromzek spy" appears to be placed correctly.

Archive.org Graffe's walkthrough bane quests from April 11, 2001 indicates the icy path placement

http://www.graffe.com/quests/wrath_spells/hsagras_wrath/index.htm

Back to Skyshrine, we moved up again very high and found the Kromzek Spy on the icy path before Jualicn at loc 1413,2465,-37. He cons yellow again to lvl 53, so again max lvl 55. The icy path is tricky, so keep in mind to have levitation or dead man floating on.

a kromzek spy says 'Your bones will be crushed by the Kromzek of Kael Drakkel!

We took him down with the same group. He dropped the head of a kromzek spy.

July 2002 is the earliest Zam snapshot for Kromzek Spy entry.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020709040201/http://eqbeastiary.allakhazam.com/search.shtml?id=6949

And lists the current location: just outside at location p1416, p2413, n37,

March 1, 2002 is the earliest Zam snapshot for Hsagra's Wrath quest write up

https://web.archive.org/web/20020301214633/http://eqdb.allakhazam.com/quest.html?quest=1293

found the Kromzek Spy on the icy path before Jualicn at loc 1413,2465,-37.

nilbog
05-15-2014, 01:56 PM
The lower level cubes shared that massive table. I think all that differed from Cubes to FehDhars to Laochs was the drop rate - and even then - I'm not so sure on that being much different. I've seen almost all of these items off of the first set of FehDhars.

I'm referring to the named cubes that were up the ramp before the room with the high level cubes. They could definitely drop Lath Drinors and were occasionally farmed by melee for that reason.

Yeah, the Velics will have it for sure.

There are

hungry cubes
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id5587.png

shambling cubes
http://zam.zamimg.com/images/i/d/id5575.png

and the various large, named Velics.

Shambling cubes range from 42 to 55. From what I can see, they had a sparse loot table until they reached level 50+, at which time they can share the loot table with the rest of the wyverns, wurms, etc.

The "Giant Spy Room" referenced on that map is the Dragon Tooth Choker quest ("Friend of the Kin or "Kromzek Spy" depending on website), the one involving Sentry Kale, Wenglawks, and Sentry Rotiart. GIve Rotiart the dispelling device and it turns him into a Kromzek Spy.

Thanks.

nilbog
05-15-2014, 03:23 PM
Is this a real item? Can't find much about it, and it's not in the db.

Griffins Sword Dmg 38, Dly 45. +10 Strength +15 Agility Wr Sk P Ra Multiple Creatures

Ele
05-15-2014, 03:53 PM
Is this a real item? Can't find much about it, and it's not in the db.

Griffins Sword Dmg 38, Dly 45. +10 Strength +15 Agility Wr Sk P Ra Multiple Creatures

Yeah, but it seems like it may have been removed from the game entirely at some point after Velious release.

http://i.imgur.com/e7GlF4l.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/pq/tritonsummers/entry1-1.htm

Summers' page has a quote "I love this sword hehe.. Verant give me back my sword. =("


EQ Atlas mirror indicates it is a drop. http://www.allakabor.com/eqatlas/skyshrine.html

pasi
05-15-2014, 03:58 PM
Ah yeah.

I rarely killed the unnamed cubes. I do recall killing one of the first 4 entrance ones when it had a spear (brightwood) poking out which matches what you said.

My memory is telling me that the hungry cube did not have this loot table. It's a lot easier to rely on memory to confirm something than it is to deny something. I think either way you go with it is fine.

Skyshrine was always pretty desolate. People mostly killed in the courtyard for guardian/sentry armor. In my time farming Velics and Wyverns, I probably only knew 2 other people doing it. Part of the fun farming it was not knowing a damn thing about what was going to drop next.

Nevermind, Ele hit it.

nilbog
05-15-2014, 04:27 PM
Pending update,

Preliminary loots and stats complete.

If there was a patch today, here's what I would want tested:

Hit points, resists, aggro range, maximum dmg hits. Too easy/too hard?

Loot. Too often/too rare?Could use any information about spawn times.

To do list:
Apply cash drops for > level 40 npcs.
Quests
Aggro/slay/death messages
Yelinak himself

nilbog
05-16-2014, 10:41 AM
There was a patch yesterday, so these can be tested:

If there was a patch today, here's what I would want tested:

Hit points, resists, aggro range, maximum dmg hits. Too easy/too hard?

Loot. Too often/too rare?

nilbog
05-16-2014, 12:19 PM
Until next patch, level 51-55 shambling cubes have a 100% chance to drop an item from their loot table. Woops.

Pending update,
-higher level shambling cubes loot drop % decreased
-Added pathing for dalgorthas beneath ice bridge
-Visual improvements to some npc sizes