Pre-nerf Pegasus Feather Cloak

[Reiker]

Pre-nerf cloak is supposed to be instant cast of Levitation. Just got the server first and it's a 6 second cast.

[Somekid123]

Can you provide a link showing this? I dont recall it ever being instant.

[Reiker]

Do the 50 tells I got after linking that asking "why isn't that instant?" count?

[Pyrocat]

Yeah I'm pretty positive that is used to be insta click. I remember hearing stories about it.

[Reiker]

I remember it being instant as well, just can't find any evidence of it online atm.

[Reiker]

Hows this: http://thedruidsgrove.org/eq/forums/archive/index.php/t-18.html

DigginsEQ
09-24-2003, 12:18 PM
If you had a prenerf pegasus feather cloak back then you were a GOD. Instant right click levitation even when moving was teh ownage! Oh, the crazy things I did with that...

[Reiker]

I also think this thing should be made to be rarer, but that's personal opinion.

[nilbog]

Can anyone provide evidence of its nerf date? If so, I will change it be instant until its needed nerf.

I only found 2 quotes supporting it was instant cast.. the one Reiker posted, and this one.


When the Pegasus Cloak was instant cast levitate, and castable on others. (Used to run through zones levitating 30+ people as I passed)

http://www.sok.org/board/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1340&start=20

[vageta31]

Pre-nerf cloak is supposed to be instant cast of Levitation. Just got the server first and it's a 6 second cast.

I also think this thing should be made to be rarer, but that's personal opinion.

This wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that you've already gotten yours does it?

[karsten]

it did start as instacast and was moved shortly after -- not certain when though, but i'd propose making it to casting time when sol ro comes out?

[Pyrocat]

Wouldn't it work just like CoS? Prenerf drops keep the insta cast, post nerf drops get a casting time.

[Reiker]

I think by next patch you should just make the current cloaks instant and then all the ones after are 6 seconds... cause half the server now has a cloak anyways (many of us with multiples).

[Wenai]

Wouldn't it work just like CoS? Prenerf drops keep the insta cast, post nerf drops get a casting time.
No. That would require to have two separate instances of the item in the db (ie. There is two Circlets... Circlet of Shadow and Circlet of Shadows)

It is the same case as Terror Forged Mask. ALL pre-existing items were also patched and nerfed. The same would happen in the case of this cloak, or else there would be two instances of this item on either Alla or Magelo. The only multiple instances of this item are the ones with the crazy stats (which I am not sure how or why they exist as I don't think they were available when I was on live).

[Pyrocat]

Yeah the multiple items are annoying. I searched for white wolf-hide cloak and get 5 results, only 2 of which have the correct stats.

[Xzerion]

I like Karsten's idea with the timing

[Hasbinbad]

I like sol ro timing too, but if they are really going to nerf existing cloaks, we should get some retroactive love.

[Otto]

I'm glad someone found a shred of evidence because I couldn't find any.

Remember one of my guildies used to rub the prenerf PFG in my face every day, particularly in the dreadlands -_-

[karsten]

thought i'd bump this particular one

[drplump]

Found this: http://www.temerityguild.org/forums/showthread.php?t=1648

[Otto]

Bumptastic. Whats the verdict?

[Hasbinbad]

srsly

[Otto]

Topic close to going to page two again. Bump.

[senatorerj]

From lucy?
Live 2005-07-14 16:25 Changed casttime from 'Instant' to '6.0'

[Hasbinbad]

^ wow!

[drplump]

Is this like manastone were it was nerfed way later? As in instant cast and 6 sec ones were in game till 2005 at which point they made them all 6 sec?

[Hasbinbad]

no

[Otto]

Bump again.

Over 1000 views but no definitive response yet... Let's put this topic to rest!

[Myth]

I don't recall this item have a nerf and prenerf version. I do remember a lot of people were upset when it was changed to have a cast time

[Xzerion]

provide a link to that lucy post plz

[Hasbinbad]

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemhistory.html?id=2463

[Bigcountry23]

From lucy?
Live 2005-07-14 16:25 Changed casttime from 'Instant' to '6.0'

You missed 2005-07-13 20:00 Changed casttime from '6.0' to 'Instant'

looks like that was one good day to have this cloak.

[nilbog]

The lucy data.. looks like they were doing database work, and thats how they populated the stats.

I am going to change the cloak to instant cast until Sol Ro opens. There was really no evidence provided that it was instant, but there was enough memories and some posts that corroborated it.

There will not be 2 different items.. a prenerf and a nerfed. It will be the same cloak, and its casting time will return with the opening of sol ro.

-Pending update, Pegasus cloak will be instant cast until Sol Ro opens. Enjoy.

[Otto]

Thanks for the final word Nilbog!

[Erati]

FYI the since we are talkin about classic original clicky items with instant casting times the guise of the deceiver originally also had an instant cast time, then the day they added the "your guise of the deciver begins to glow" text for items you click cast it also gained a cast time. I remember this bc I was excited at first i though "ooh new text and spell effect, then realized its bc it now casts a spell rather than click bam DE". Not a big deal but it did not start with a cast time if anyone wants to search for evidence of this, im 100% positive on this as people would spam the effect.


Erati

[Otto]

FYI the since we are talkin about classic original clicky items with instant casting times the guise of the deceiver originally also had an instant cast time, then the day they added the "your guise of the deciver begins to glow" text for items you click cast it also gained a cast time. I remember this bc I was excited at first i though "ooh new text and spell effect, then realized its bc it now casts a spell rather than click bam DE". Not a big deal but it did not start with a cast time if anyone wants to search for evidence of this, im 100% positive on this as people would spam the effect.


Erati

Yeah Guise was also instant cast. I do remember that at some point no one had an instant clicky anymore, though.

[Lich]

I think the Cloak was nerfed to 6.0 seconds because of how levitate worked back in the day. Each time levitate was cast you would rise up slightly higher and then fall back to normal. Instant cast Levitate allowed you to reach normally impossible heights. This is what I remember hearing anyways. I never actually had the cloak until after the Nerf. Does anyone know if this was actually true?

[Yoite]

Shield of Striding is instant click lev from re-vamped CT. It doesnt make me float upwards on live.

[drplump]

The nerf was due to the graphic lag spamming the spells could create.

[xxxbeinxxx]

No. That would require to have two separate instances of the item in the db (ie. There is two Circlets... Circlet of Shadow and Circlet of Shadows)

It is the same case as Terror Forged Mask. ALL pre-existing items were also patched and nerfed. The same would happen in the case of this cloak, or else there would be two instances of this item on either Alla or Magelo. The only multiple instances of this item are the ones with the crazy stats (which I am not sure how or why they exist as I don't think they were available when I was on live).

So does this mean tha all the exisiting Terror Forged Masks are gonna get gimped up at some point? if so when-ish?(not looking for a date, but an idea in relation to other in game events, pre-kunark, post kunark, pre velious, etc) TY

[nilbog]

So does this mean tha all the exisiting Terror Forged Masks are gonna get gimped up at some point?

Yes.

April 10, 2000

- The Terror Mask will now cast "Fear" instead of "Call of Bones" as
previously announced. The "Call of Bones" effect was placed on this
item by mistake. We try and follow the timeline. Kunark was released april 24, 2000. So, before Kunark.

[xxxbeinxxx]

TYVM