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Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 12:36 AM
So I have done it a few times tonight. It appears that while a rogue is in sneak/hide that if you accidentally right click (attempt to loot) a players corpse and receive the message "you can not loot this corpse at this time" it breaks hide/sneak. The mobs will still con indifferent, and you will still move slowly like you are sneaking and have your name in brackets but once you are in aggro range the mob will attack you. This has happened due to the fact that I use mouse look and if you are over a corpse when you let go of the right click it will attempt to loot. I have not tried this with actual mob corpses that are out of range so I am not sure if it will have the same effect. Of course if you are actually looting something it should break hide/sneak but if you aren't able to then it probably shouldn't.

Thulack
05-04-2014, 12:54 AM
It breaks hide thats why things still con indiff and your slow because sneak is still working. Pretty sure its suppose to be this way. have had to happen a few times. Best think to do is if your not on a CR is to have a /hidecorpse all hotkey.

evilkorn
05-04-2014, 02:00 AM
I agree, it's been this way for a while now. There have also been problems with the way hide has been reporting and the parenthesis persisting even though hide is broken. If I'm doing any critical dragging I always /target corpses and limit my mouse look use to avoid this. It was something I always knew broke hide and I just used extra precautions when in sticky situations.

Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 02:12 AM
Would be nice if it gave a notice of "you stop hiding" like every other thing that breaks hide.

maximum
05-04-2014, 10:14 AM
Read this: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139872

Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 02:16 PM
Read this: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139872


This isn't your own corpse you are trying to loot, I am talking about another players corpse that you obviously can't loot. You get the message that " you can not loot this corpse at this time " but no message that you lost hide. Then if you walk near an aggro mob it will attack because hide must have dropped but you just don't know it.

Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 07:36 PM
As an update to my original post it does not look like the other player corpse target (attempted looting) is the cause of the hide/sneak break. Many times now I have been walking in hide/sneak and a random green or light blue ghouls (in Unrest) sees through it and I get the " you and no longer hidden" "you stop sneaking". No rhyme or reason for the random mobs to see through it.

Supaskillz
05-04-2014, 08:16 PM
You will not get the you are no longer hidden msg without getting hit by an npc who sees you. Being seen will not cause it to drop.

Something else is breaking it if this is happening to you. Perhaps attempting to open a trade or attempting to loot a corpse. Review logs or post them, perhaps this will help clarify your issue. Also there should be no way ghouls are seeing you, ghouls cannot see through IVU and most recent change is supposed to treat hide as IVU+Invis.

Scrubosaur
05-04-2014, 08:25 PM
I am getting hit by random ghouls or dry bones in Unrest. When I get hit the "you are no longer hidden" and "stop sneaking" messages both pop in white. I know nothing is supposed to see me in Unrest but having spent quite a few levels there it has happened at least 6 times.

Supaskillz
05-04-2014, 08:35 PM
show us some logs.

have you noticed any conning aggressive while hidden before being attacked?

evilkorn
05-04-2014, 11:38 PM
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:26 2014] You have hidden yourself from view.
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:26 2014] You are as quiet as a cat stalking its prey.
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:26 2014] You are more alert. Me being in a bard group and in song range
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[Sun Apr 27 16:00:34 2014] You are no longer hidden.
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:34 2014] You stop sneaking.
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:34 2014] Royal Sarnak Herbalist was burned.
[Sun Apr 27 16:00:34 2014] Royal Sarnak Herbalist hits YOU for 160 points of damage.

Should there be an alert(keys pop at least) letting me know hide is broken after the song hits me? As the log shows, everything breaks at the same time.

Haynar
05-04-2014, 11:56 PM
What song is that? I will take a look.

H

evilkorn
05-05-2014, 01:22 AM
McVaxius' Rousing Rondo

Supaskillz
05-05-2014, 03:10 PM
I believe bard songs should break hide, but sounds msg needs to be fixed to indicate it broke.

Ele
05-05-2014, 03:15 PM
Songs breaking hide/sneak was raised here, but Assassinate got addressed instead. :P

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117921