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citizen1080

01-15-2015, 09:56 PM

Oh...wtf guys

brdurango

01-15-2015, 10:02 PM

Anyone able to answer my question regarding the registration answer?

Secrets

01-15-2015, 10:53 PM

XP is being adjusted if I recall correctly, it's a mess right now. Sorry about these problems!

Buellen

01-15-2015, 10:58 PM

citizen1080

01-15-2015, 11:09 PM

XP is being adjusted if I recall correctly, it's a mess right now. Sorry about these problems!

Yay!

And I am not by any means expecting it to be perfect Buellen =) Run speed was off so i took a break till fixed..ill do same till xp is resolved.

Patriam1066

01-16-2015, 12:28 AM

press enter

e: oh you mean it crashed? probably a bad default UI

try editing eqclient.ini to NewUI=FALSE and see where that gets you

I did press enter, "submitting player to world server"...

I see that but nothing happens, no apparent crash. Just nothing happening.

After adjusting the NewUI=FALSE, I see the server but still just get "submitting player to world server"

Bleepo

01-16-2015, 12:43 AM

thought the server was still beta don't understand all the gripping. they will get it right eventually.

You guys want it perfect and up and running from the go ? You all who think this way are smoking some mean ganja.

I was not here on p1999 when it started but I'm sure it had its problem too.

Yeeesh

most people don't have a problem with bugs.

Some of the devs are doing awesome work (Secrets, Robregen, Cavedude) but there are some other people on the staff who have real issues and are trying to take it out on their players.

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 12:55 AM

Experience has been fixed at least partially to where it's workable now. A lot of the initial players are still extremely over-leveled even if it's not quite being double of where they should be.

Also I was curious to how you were kiting Bob. Starting out in Freeport it feels like there isn't a "normal" mob run speed. Bats seems to be moving at least 5-10% quicker than other "Normal" run speed mobs.

Edit: Patriam try this
Find the eqhost.txt file in your C\EQMac folder, clear what's in there and put this instead (exactly as is, everything in blue):

[Registration Servers]
{
"loginserver.takproject.net:6000"
}
[Login Servers]
{
"loginserver.takproject.net:6000"
}

It's what fixed my problems. If you see the server select screen but no option (happens a lot) just hit enter. And keep hitting enter until you're either kicked out or get to character select. The first time after I made my characters my game crashed each time but I was able to go back in immediately. Right now my only remaining issue is that whenever I zone my boxes are kicked out of game.

Patriam1066

01-16-2015, 01:14 AM

Thanks for the help bud. I already had that in there though lol.

I'm not sure what my issue is. I get no crashes or anything else, just nothing happening. Shortcuts seem directed to the right places and I see the alkabor server on the list, just isnt working

Orruar

01-16-2015, 01:22 AM

Doubled the exp required for 1-50 after a ton of their poopsocking alpha pals already dinged 50.

Oh no, some other people are level 50 and that will detract from your own enjoyment of the server!

Nawn Factor

01-16-2015, 01:29 AM

Fact is they waited to change it until their buddies hit 50. Which is ultra cheese by any account.

If it's 'no big deal' then they should wipe the server, because it's a pretty big fuck up and a nice show of playing favorites. Not a glowing endorsement for the servers management.

Orruar

01-16-2015, 01:31 AM

If it keeps people away who are angry at life and looking for any little reason to start a jihad, then I say more power to them.

Tuffpuppy

01-16-2015, 01:34 AM

If they are dead set on no more wipes, then everyone should have been deleveled to match the new exp formula.

Nawn Factor

01-16-2015, 01:41 AM

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 01:53 AM

For what it's worth, I don't think they did it on purpose to level their friends. Just happened to be something that for whatever reason they didn't fix immediately before server dropped.

Swish

01-16-2015, 01:54 AM

Why do these other servers always fuck up on the basics? I can totally understand people being angry when they change XP rates after the welfare check players have hit 50+. That's not advertising consistency at all.

Epic Emu didn't even bother with a beta, just released a stock PEQ server on the opening night, nerfed the shit out of the XP so that you had to do ~100 mail quests to get level 2 - and decided they'd fix the server as they went. Terrible. Most of the serious problems naturally got solved long after most players went back to P99/EQmac/etc.

How to do a server properly? Look at P99, that's why we're all still here on these forums and haven't wandered off :p

pharmakos

01-16-2015, 02:18 AM

project1999 was pretty rough when it was first released, from what i hear.

here are a couple threads from October 2009 about EXP being borked on P99: http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=310 http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257

Orruar

01-16-2015, 02:58 AM

Maybe so, but I know that my friends and I who joined this week were looking forward to progressing with a server and not being left in the dust by the end of week 2 because of a ridiculous exp system that was removed after the <Devs and Friends> were done abusing it. The server should absolutely been wiped, or exp been rolled back to the new systems parameters.

It doesn't make me angry, but it definitely makes me question the ethics and moral ability of the developers to be able to run AND play a server from an unbiased standpoint.

I suppose time will tell, but for now it's a disappointing turn of events from an otherwise promising server.

Is 14 days of double xp really such a terrible thing? It's not like they're gonna go ahead and release Kunark right now and then Velious in 2 more weeks or anything. Given the structure of their planned releases (70% of server having completed previous expansion), I don't think "being left in the dust" is going to happen.

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 03:33 AM

Secrets

01-16-2015, 03:38 AM

Fact is they waited to change it until their buddies hit 50. Which is ultra cheese by any account.

Can confirm this is false.

We didn't even have any talks about EXP being reduced, and I was unaware personally that this exp commit was going in until 24 hours prior to implementing it, let alone the fact that it had a shit ton of bugs. The code is open source. We didn't sit on this EXP change waiting for people to hit 50. It was done in less than 24 hours, and implemented in 48. Bugs cropped up that didn't appear in solo testing.

Also, when all of this is done I heard rumors they might be doing a double XP weekend when the EXP changes are fully fixed and un-bugged. I wouldn't know because I don't actually run the server and call shots, but it was hinted at in the developer's channel.

You won't be left in the dust unless you consider this a race instead of a preservation project of PoP-era/EQMac EQ, in which case, put away your poop socks, that's not the point of this project and thus the server.

Secrets

01-16-2015, 03:45 AM

This has a lot less to do with the 80 or so characters very over-leveled and more to do with reputation. Reputation is everything when you're trying to gather critical mass for any project. For an EQ server trying to get a foothold in a very small niche space even more so. We're one degree removed and this is how much we're already fighting over it in the space of a day.

This 'project' isn't about reputation or player count; I could care less how many people play on the server. That isn't the point. It is to recreate EQMac-era EQ, and provide the code and database needed for anyone to do so. A for-play server just happens to be something that exists that is officially supported by the team.

If the play server gets 0 people and some other person makes their own copy of the server, gets population, and still contributes back to our project, I would have no issue with that. I couldn't even give two shits if Toop, Rogean, P99, EQClassic who ever, used the code as long as they contributed back to our code repository.

Obviously I'd frown on someone making a server out of a vendetta they made up with a conspiracy in their own mind, but I won't hate them for it as long as they contribute back to us in some way.

Anyone who wishes to help fix the exp formula can download a copy of the code and make a pull request themselves. That is the kind of open-ness I am trying to foster here, not 'us-versus-you'.
https://github.com/cavedude00/Server/commit/0be8e8badbdfd3d19aa4f7a6bef0656b03d97107

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 04:40 AM

I've got a bridge to sell too. That's honestly bullshit and everyone knows it. Everyone knows it when the P99 dev says it as well. You'd have to be a complete sociopath to work on something for hundreds of hours then turn around and be like, "Nah, totally cool if people thinks this sucks ass and everyone hates it."

Unless you're one of those extremely rare craftsmen who takes pride in his craft by itself. Which would be a fucking wonder if those types all drifted to coding EQ EMU. I have a lot more respect for a guy who openly states, "Ya, I've been working on this bitch quite a bit. I want this to succeed and would justifiably be pretty pissed if it goes down." It's just simple human nature from my point of view but carry on as you please sir/madam.

pharmakos

01-16-2015, 05:43 AM

the fact that they're making everything open source sort of invalidates those arguments mandalore

if you think you can launch a server more successfully then go ahead and download their open source database, improve upon it yourself, and start up a server with a better initial reputation than theirs has.

Bleepo

01-16-2015, 08:14 AM

Yeah, if anything the Devs HATE the people who are already 50. They have been vilified by the staff, publically shamed (it was deleted, but still).

The 70% rule basically makes it so this server will not progress until <Destiny> beats all the content, and with recent exp changes it will take those guys MONTHS to even reach 50.

That is the main reason they are holding back Vox and Naggy, Plane of Fear and Plane of Hate. Destiny needs to be ready to "compete" before that stuff gets released. It is also the reason for many item drops nerfs to the only difficult content in the game.

It IS kinda funny though. With the exp changes they made the whole server hate the high levels. Coincidence, or just very convenient? You decide

This 'project' isn't about reputation or player count; I could care less how many people play on the server. That isn't the point. It is to recreate EQMac-era EQ, and provide the code and database needed for anyone to do so. A for-play server just happens to be something that exists that is officially supported by the team

If this is true, why do you stand idly by when people like Speedz and Torven remove EQMac Era stuff from the game? Why do you not chime in on progression VS preservation? The discussion could use a stable minded person (you), right now the decisions are being made by kneejerk idiots. If anyone is on a vendetta it is the GMs of that server who want to drive away the competitive players that joined that server. If Speedz is still in charge when this server reaches a "finished state" I don't see people hanging around if someone else uses the codebase and rolls a new server

Burrito

01-16-2015, 08:19 AM

Have the fixed the constant soft disconnect issues?

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 08:42 AM

^Only disconnect issues I've had are with boxes zoning.

@Pharmakos - Because I have zero intention of ever launching an EQ EMU server? Just because I'm not going to personally do it doesn't excuse server's management from criticism. I sincerely doubt that the majority of the server code is coming from more than their top 3-6 devs so clearly those people have a far more invested stake in the server.

As I stated on the TAKP forums, I probably will get bored of it within a week or two so I have very little stake in the success of the server even though I do think their timeline is cool.

As I stated on their forums, how does this move look good to any outside player? Compare that to the cost of inconveniencing 20-40 people who have already shown they're ready to put full time hours into the game.

Secrets

01-16-2015, 09:09 AM

As I stated on their forums, how does this move look good to any outside player? Compare that to the cost of inconveniencing 20-40 people who have already shown they're ready to put full time hours into the game.

Probably because I could care less who runs my code. I don't do the database or the running of the server. I don't have full confidence anyone choosing to run my code because I shouldn't have to - that's not my responsibility.
The code is being coded to support people who want to take the code sometime down the line and make their own server with their own rulesets; for example you could easily take an older revision, merge in fixes you want, and make your own server.
Ignorance, and being unwilling to make your own server, is different than P99 where you are told to start from scratch with no database and no codebase. If you're unwilling to make the server YOU want to see, you won't find it, I guarantee that. I spent the last couple years going through the same thing.

Personally, I'm not interested in running a server; haven't been for the last... 3 years? And forcing me to pick a 'side' in your conflict with the folks running the play server is a bit arrogant and unreasonable when I want nothing to do with either the play server or your problems with the play server... unless it's a code bug and you have a solution planned.
You're welcome to critique the people running the play server, but the moment you start attacking my code project - which benefits everyone and prevents a situation like this happening - that's where I draw the line.
As I have said also, I do not care if there are 0 people online playing. I spent 1 and a half years of my life without a playerbase, and I think another year and a half wouldn't kill me as long as a noble goal is achieved of preserving the EQMac playerbase.

It is completely unreasonable to ask me to do something I have no interest in because you want to see it happen. End of story.

Daldaen

01-16-2015, 09:49 AM

I don't care about the EXP thing.

I just hope you don't try to fix things on Mac that were unique and don't need fixing.

Fine, remove pit warring and OOR exp and Shakerpaging if you want to prevent people from getting max AAs in days.

But don't remove the core things about Mac that made is unique. Alpha Time/Air and all those problems. Too many people want to see every bug "fixed" and all content updated. That would be lame :/.

Seeing vendor recharge, old-world model horse bug or WotW stacking with rune removed would be very lame.

I'm fine with fixing PoEarth Traps and Rings or Aid Grimel/Power of the Elements quests which were actually broken. But the weird aspects of the code or database should stay if they don't present an enormous exploitation issue.

Orruar

01-16-2015, 10:27 AM

Orruar

01-16-2015, 10:40 AM

Have the fixed the constant soft disconnect issues?

I think they fixed something. I used to crash once every 10-15 minutes on at least one toon. Haven't had a crash in the past 5-6 hours of playtime.

Haynar

01-16-2015, 11:33 AM

Is 14 days of double xp really such a terrible thing? It's not like they're gonna go ahead and release Kunark right now and then Velious in 2 more weeks or anything. Given the structure of their planned releases (70% of server having completed previous expansion), I don't think "being left in the dust" is going to happen.

14 days of double exp caters to the neckbeards who missed launch.

Do double exp weekends for a few months instead.

I am almost done hacking together a few diff UIs to get what I like. Then i will make the grind to level 6. Rawr.

H

Orruar

01-16-2015, 12:20 PM

14 days of double exp caters to the neckbeards who missed launch.

Do double exp weekends for a few months instead.

I am almost done hacking together a few diff UIs to get what I like. Then i will make the grind to level 6. Rawr.

H

I wasn't suggesting they now do 14 days of double xp. I'm saying the last 14 days of the server were essentially double xp. And it's not a big deal really except to the people who want an excuse to get offended about something. We all know the type. If Mandalore was born in the middle east, he'd be railing against cartoons or beating women for reading books.

Pokesan

01-16-2015, 12:53 PM

It's two weeks after the server launched and there's already a staff created player power gap.

That's not a great start.

Daldaen

01-16-2015, 01:11 PM

Let's be honest.

This is Classic EQ with no Planes out. They removed DEs in Kith and all that loot.

It will be in this state for several more months.

As long as they fix EXP shortly anyone who cares will be 50, and ready to do planes or dragons or move into Kunark.

People are far too shortsighted. So what if they have a few 50s... They can farm some GEBs maybe... Okay? Then what. Can't sell it since no one has plat. They can farm hill Giants or Seafuries I suppose. Then get plat to... Buy nothing? Or tradeskill I guess.

Really it's not a big deal. Those neckbeard's will Neckbeard regardless.

Orruar

01-16-2015, 01:30 PM

It's two weeks after the server launched and there's already a staff created player power gap.

That's not a great start.

As opposed to P99 where everyone has an equal shot at Frapsquesting their way to raid suspensions and coh-duck-questing their way to loots? I embrace the "power gap".

Ghordo

01-16-2015, 02:07 PM

Where can I find a step by step on how to install this on a windows.

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 03:37 PM

In full disclosure, Orruar, I don't really play P99. I mostly stick around for the occasional good RNF thread and duke it out with Sirken in the ASOIAF thread. I've also criticized the staff here multiple times and have said they get away with a lot because they have a complete lack of competition in their niche space. I in fact *did* stay away from P99 for years because of the horror stories that I heard about it initially.

Not blaming you for the confusion in this thread though. A lot of my points are missing due to the split between this thread and the one on TAKP forums.

But basically, can you explain to me how this would look good to a random player whose slightly interested in the server? This is literally all I'm talking about. I don't care about the server to be honest. I have zero personal stake in it and I probably will get bored in about a week as what usually happens with me and EQ.

@Secrets: Feel like you're taking this far too seriously if you think I'm trying to get you to take sides. Strictly a small intellectual discourse for me.

@Ghordo: Busy today but PM me and I'll try to get you set up tomorrow!

Orruar

01-16-2015, 04:24 PM

But basically, can you explain to me how this would look good to a random player whose slightly interested in the server?

The average player doesn't care all that much? A few level 50s isn't going to ruin their enjoyment of the game. And most people don't see something like this and immediately go down the crazy conspiracy path of thinking this means the staff is corrupt and only helping out their buddies. I mean, if you are right and the staff was just using this as a way to help their friends, why even bother? Why not just use GM powers to make all their friends level 50 with full gear? Why do this in such a visible way?

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 04:28 PM

The average player doesn't care all that much? A few level 50s isn't going to ruin their enjoyment of the game. And most people don't see something like this and immediately go down the crazy conspiracy path of thinking this means the staff is corrupt and only helping out their buddies. I mean, if you are right and the staff was just using this as a way to help their friends, why even bother? Why not just use GM powers to make all their friends level 50 with full gear? Why do this in such a visible way?

Sir, you clearly haven't read most of my posts. I do appreciate you finally addressing me instead of just name calling and trolling though.

For what it's worth, I don't think they did it on purpose to level their friends. Just happened to be something that for whatever reason they didn't fix immediately before server dropped.

The entire time I've been advocating from a neutral, outside point of view. Not my own. I'm really astounded that this has been that hard to grasp both here and on TAKP. As for the average player, I wouldn't be so sure. There have certainly been quite a few cases of server GM abuse of power or epic melt downs in the EQ EMU scene that I'm sure have put more than a few on notice.

Secrets

01-16-2015, 05:18 PM

I'm fine with fixing PoEarth Traps and Rings or Aid Grimel/Power of the Elements quests which were actually broken. But the weird aspects of the code or database should stay if they don't present an enormous exploitation issue.

With the way we have it set up, server administrators will be able to change rules that add content in like this with the flip of the switch.

Things like pet pulling for example were put in with a switch to turn off or on.

Just happened to be something that for whatever reason they didn't fix immediately before server dropped.

Because we have lives and we had no testing environment to ensure the formula was 100% prior.. I don't have the time to test every edge case, and that's why a live environment helps a lot. We were using the livelike EQEmulator formula before. P99 went through the same thing about a year into launch and no one complained. No difference here.

Secrets

01-16-2015, 05:21 PM

I think they fixed something. I used to crash once every 10-15 minutes on at least one toon. Haven't had a crash in the past 5-6 hours of playtime.

Correct; it should be a lot more stable now, thanks to Haynar and also, a new contribitor's suggestion for zoning.

Orruar

01-16-2015, 05:44 PM

Sir, you clearly haven't read most of my posts. I do appreciate you finally addressing me instead of just name calling and trolling though.

You're right. I don't spend my day looking up Mandalore's posts in order to better understand your complicated point of view. Instead I just assume that when you make a post, you stand by the words in that post and don't need to add volumes of context in order to understand them.

The entire time I've been advocating from a neutral, outside point of view. Not my own. I'm really astounded that this has been that hard to grasp both here and on TAKP. As for the average player, I wouldn't be so sure. There have certainly been quite a few cases of server GM abuse of power or epic melt downs in the EQ EMU scene that I'm sure have put more than a few on notice.

Do you really believe you have a "neutral, outside point of view"? You're causing a lot of drama for no real reason and everyone besides yourself is wondering what the fuck your problem is. Maybe you spend so much time browsing P99 forums that you think this level of drama is normal and absolutely neutral, but it's not. This level of drama from anyone who doesn't have their own reality tv show is rather abnormal.

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 05:55 PM

I think it's funny that you accuse me of spending too much time on the forums when you have quadruple my post count and probably have another 10x my play time on the server.

Really, out of about 10 posts you've had two that were anything but trolling and name calling. Honestly, how hard would it have been to say, "I disagree with this view point and here's why"

And Secrets, wasn't trying to stir your shit dude. I think that the normal level of hostility on the forums has just bled over so much that everyone thinks that every little statement is to be taken in the most negative life. I literally meant "whatever reason" as anything ranging from lack of time to it being a complicated coding problem.

I apologize if my stance has been hard to comprehend. Text is always pretty hard to tell nuance with when you don't personally know the person. For example, I've been thinking Orruar is just a retarded cunt who can't tell the difference between my personal views on the server and what I think could potentially harm it from an outside point of view. But odds are better that we both just have vastly different opinions on the matter and are talking past each other.

citizen1080

01-16-2015, 06:20 PM

I love lamp

Orruar

01-16-2015, 06:51 PM

Really, out of about 10 posts you've had two that were anything but trolling and name calling.

How does it feel, douchebag? You spend post after post trolling and stirring drama for no fucking reason, so hell yes I'll do the same to you. Don't throw stones in glass houses, bitch.

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 06:54 PM

Really don't see how I did. I posted a dissenting opinion on how something was handled. It was kept civil and I didn't call names on any post until my last few after about four pages of circle jerk.

Nawn Factor

01-16-2015, 08:15 PM

You're right. I don't spend my day looking up Mandalore's posts in order to better understand your complicated point of view. Instead I just assume that when you make a post, you stand by the words in that post and don't need to add volumes of context in order to understand them.

Do you really believe you have a "neutral, outside point of view"? You're causing a lot of drama for no real reason and everyone besides yourself is wondering what the fuck your problem is. Maybe you spend so much time browsing P99 forums that you think this level of drama is normal and absolutely neutral, but it's not. This level of drama from anyone who doesn't have their own reality tv show is rather abnormal.

He's not causing drama, he's presenting a point of view which is well within his rights I would say. I'm actually curious what your stake in all of this is, Orruar?

For someone who's presented the point of view that 'it doesn't matter', you sure seem to be doing an awful lot of crazy-making and gaslighting of anyone who disagrees with you.

I, for one, am not 'wondering what the fuck his problem is'. He's explained his position. All of this "you're a bitch, stfu idiot" stuff coming out of your corner makes me wonder what the fuck yours is though.

Secrets

01-16-2015, 10:02 PM

I love lamp

Mandalore93

01-16-2015, 11:35 PM

Can confirm jimmies rustled, perma banned.

Pokesan

01-17-2015, 12:05 AM

you're banned from TAKProject?

e: checked there, yep. wow.

that's the nail in the coffin for me. RIP Al'kabor for a second time

pharmakos

01-17-2015, 12:48 AM

you admitted you would probably only play there for two weeks even if the server was perfect, and yet you keep hounding them with the same annoying "how would this look to an outsider?" question over and over. and you're surprised you got banned?

lay off the stimulants man, sheesh.

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 12:58 AM

God forbid I defend the position for which I'm being directly challenged am I right? Don't blame him for the ban since at the end I descended to the level of the mob.

Laberintica

01-17-2015, 01:48 AM

I'm having a blast so far :)

pharmakos

01-17-2015, 02:03 AM

God forbid I defend the position for which I'm being directly challenged am I right? Don't blame him for the ban since at the end I descended to the level of the mob.

seriously man, lay off the stimulants.

how much adderall do the doctors have you on?

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 02:22 AM

Really not sure what the issue is here. Can you please provide an example other than my original post where I do anything but respond to people who are responding directly to me?

Secrets for example took exception to something I posted. He responded in a clear and coherent manner. I then clarified my position. This is how a discussion should work. In comparison to some who merely post vitriole.

Secrets

01-17-2015, 03:29 AM

From what I have learned in my experience, the more you post in reply to someone who is provoking you, the more they're going to antagonize you because you replied to them.

I'm not sure what you did to get banned from the forums or ingame... I've been playing on the server a bit, and I only had nothing but positive interaction with the community, though. I've been single boxing a warrior going my own pace, and don't plan on raiding. I haven't pushed my thoughts on anyone and no one even knows it's me. Whereas, when I am on my GM-Coder flagged character, I get random tells from people about CSR issues despite being a coder and having nothing to do with any of that and get to be at the receiving end of all the things you are experiencing,

Personally I'd just not make a big deal about reputation, politics, and such. Just enjoy the game of EverQuest. It's easier and less hair-pullingly frustrating in the end.

Valakut

01-17-2015, 03:42 AM

JackFlash

01-17-2015, 03:48 AM

I read a few responses to bug reports that kind of troubled me (gate cast with bind in same zone forces a zone). Other then that I am having a blast on my lvl 2 wizard.....like secrets said basically. chill out relax...have fun!

pharmakos

01-17-2015, 04:26 AM

Really not sure what the issue is here. Can you please provide an example other than my original post where I do anything but respond to people who are responding directly to me?

"i'm really not a douchebag as long as you don't pay attention to the fact that i started this shitmess of a discussion that i am currently in."

or "hey its not my fault that you're responding to the stupid things that i said"

Nawn Factor

01-17-2015, 05:24 AM

Can confirm jimmies rustled, perma banned.

Wow. How'd they even know it was you?

Borderline joke status.

pharmakos

01-17-2015, 06:14 AM

SWISH check this out!

I had an interesting idea I want to bounce off those that want a more rule relaxed, and aggressive style community, yet still based off of this code base.

Once we stabilize this code and smooth out the quirks with net and memory, I had the idea of a 2nd server.
One where there is only 2 rules.
1) Selling is in auction only,
2) There are no rules past 1.

No rules about chat or otherwise, no naming rules nothing. You don't like someone's name. You kill them,
No rules about automation, scripting, boxing...

But with a catch:
Full PvP even PoK/Nexus etc.
Diablo/Discord style death. Either death is permanent or you delevel to 1 with no gear.

Have a web tracker with a leaderboard of top player(s) and top player(s) that have died.

That way the best or worst of both worlds can have their cake and eat it too. Both worlds can contribute in their own way to fine tuning the code and content base. Both worlds can help each other out if need be for hosting overhead.

Players and others Discuss.

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2217

Bleepo

01-17-2015, 08:46 AM

Wow. I mean I can't say I am surprised that you got banned, but at the same time THEY are in the wrong. Its exactly this kind of interaction with the community that makes me thinks this server isn't going to be a success. Discussion is not wanted, the only thing they accept is accolades and asskissing. any critique, constructive or destructive it doesn't really matter, is being viewed as a personal attack.

Speedz is insane (he admits it himself) and what is alarming is the army of asskissers on that forum right now. It only further removes that dude from reality, and he's already WAAAAAAY out there in gaga land.

The sane and stable people like Secrets take a back seat to all this, which is really sad. You would think at one point they would get worried about the downwards spiral that Speedz is in, but they are content to just ignore it. He must be a real asshole if even his friends don't give a crap

You would think the amount of failed EMU projects out there due to developers with psychological problems (EpicEmu, EQClassic, etc) would be a huge warning sign to most people, but I guess level 20 and full leather armor is already to many pixels to lose, people are too immersed now to take a stand in fear of losing their pixels

EDIT; Wow I just read that thread that was linked. Speedz is already thinking about his next project. This alone shows you how batshit crazy that guy is.

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 11:12 AM

Poopakos we'll have to agree to disagree on the subject.

@Secrets: Sent someone to PM you who was having trouble with registration. I know you don't handle that but I don't know any of the other devs on P99 forums.

@Patriam: Did you ever get it working? Only thing I can think of is dropbox not completely downloading the resource folder if you're using the free account.

Patriam1066

01-17-2015, 02:47 PM

Nope I didn't. But I checked with someone to make sure I was getting all of the files, I am.

Possibly a UI issue, although going NEWui=FALSE does nothing for me.

Anyone have a link to a customUI that works?

Burrito

01-17-2015, 02:50 PM

SWISH check this out!

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2217

The EQ hardcorerer server.

nilbog

01-17-2015, 04:49 PM

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 05:11 PM

Definitely a good bit of hyperbole there but I'd be the first to admit that when I create something I want it to be well received and if it isn't that I find it a bummer and go back to the drawing board.

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-17-2015, 06:09 PM

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 06:28 PM

Patriam, there's a section on their forums called ui corner. I was using vertical and that seemed to work fine.

Patriam1066

01-17-2015, 06:44 PM

Thanks bud

Valakut

01-17-2015, 07:07 PM

Speedz is insane (he admits it himself) and what is alarming is the army of asskissers on that forum right now. It only further removes that dude from reality, and he's already WAAAAAAY out there in gaga land.

The sane and stable people like Secrets take a back seat to all this, which is really sad. You would think at one point they would get worried about the downwards spiral that Speedz is in, but they are content to just ignore it. He must be a real asshole if even his friends don't give a crap

(3:04:27 AM) Speedz: game is unlocked, Thanks for being the ONLY one cool about it haha
(3:04:49 AM) Speedz: this last guy, my god
(3:06:01 AM) Speedz: just an idiot that cant read
(3:06:09 AM) Speedz: amd gets pissy cuz he didn't
(3:06:19 AM) Speedz: but I am quite sure he did and just didn't care
(3:06:33 AM) Speedz: got rude, nasty and started gettin all cussy
(3:06:47 AM) Speedz: but, I was nice and like ok, sorry you feel that way....zone crash

Haynar

01-17-2015, 08:01 PM

I am sure Rogean and Nilbog never have ass kissers bugging them here.

Lots of zone crashes on tak. And weird disconnects that drop everyone in the zone too. They got some bugs to work on. I hope the spend more time on the bugs.

H

Mandalore93

01-17-2015, 08:54 PM

It's an EMU in beta, drops and crashes are to be fully expected imo.

Patriam: The UI fix things for you?

Patriam1066

01-17-2015, 10:06 PM

Nope. Uninstalled all versions of directx and framework, reinstalled, obviously reinstalled titanium (using a client that def works on p99), made sure I had all of the right files, followed the instructions, tried power of two and vertUI.... Nothing.

Did all of this with malwarebytes, my antivirus, and UAC off. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Thanks for the help, I'm most likely giving up though haha. I just wanted to play PoP again

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-17-2015, 11:25 PM

Tuffpuppy

01-17-2015, 11:44 PM

pharmakos

01-18-2015, 12:21 AM

titanium is not supposed to work for TAKP, that was your problem.

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-18-2015, 01:04 AM

titanium is not supposed to work for TAKP, that was your problem.

I use titanium.

pharmakos

01-18-2015, 01:18 AM

did you back patch it with the EQMac resources folder?

if so you're not really using titanium.

Secrets

01-18-2015, 01:19 AM

can confirm server is a shit hole. banned once for "inappropriate name" with no warning although the character creation setup allowed it. banned a second time for 3 boxing with a friend because "we cannot trust your word" that it was only 3 boxes per person which is technically allowed in their rules.

not sure why but the gms running the player interaction side of things seem to be inept at resolving player issues transparently and fairly. extreme action is the first and only action ever taken and your guilty until proven innocent.

recommend avoiding it for minimum 6 months until the dust settles cause there are internal issues outside of the code that need to be resolved before the server is viable.

Here's that transparency you wanted:

Assuming you're the same person who came into the IRC chat that I happened to pop in to see what was going on tonight. I'm pretty drunk, but it went something like this:

[10:16pm] Secretsphone joined the chat room.
[10:16pm] jeffray: 3 boxing is cheating?
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: no; 4-6 boxing is
[10:16pm] jeffray: you dont even know what was going on
[10:16pm] jeffray: and i wasnt 4-6 boxing
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: it's your "friends"
[10:16pm] jeffray: 2 people = 3 people each
[10:16pm] Zarwayne: they use your accounts... yeah right
[10:17pm] jeffray: bullshit
[10:17pm] jeffray: check the ip
[10:17pm] jeffray: i dont give a fuck to 6 box
[10:17pm] jeffray: say what you want but now you are just slandering me with false shit
[10:17pm] Satan: caught in a corner, that's what they do
[10:17pm] jeffray: and im clearly not the only one here that sees this
[10:18pm] stairs: im so happy i made this popcorn
[10:18pm] Furst: maybe we wont be the most hated people on the server now
[10:19pm] Furst: *too far
[10:19pm] Secretsphone: im at a bar but uh apparently you can use a vpn to bypass ip restrictions. which, might be the issue here if you were using an open proxy
[10:20pm] Secretsphone: not my problem but i wouldnt use a proxy to bypass restrictions.
[10:20pm] jeffray left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:21pm] Secretsphone: should give them a heads up ahead of time
[10:21pm] Secretsphone: o ok
[10:21pm] stairs: RIP jeffray
[10:21pm] stairs: going ot miss him
[10:21pm] stairs: what a trooper
[10:21pm] Furst: i miss that gilgamesh guy
[10:22pm] Secretsphone: lol
[10:22pm] Secretsphone: nilbog messaged me earlier
[10:22pm] kilroy: i'm sorta skeptical about those guys not being related.
[10:23pm] Secretsphone: said this drama reminded him of 09 p99
[10:23pm] robregen: yeah
[10:23pm] Furst: the mob feeds off of drama
[10:24pm] kilroy: i wonder what would have happened if he'd acted like a normal, rational human being and just gone along with what zarwayne was saying.
[10:24pm] kilroy: interesting to think about.
[10:24pm] Furst: i think the same thing when I see those police videos
[10:24pm] Furst: that get posted on worldstar hiphop
[10:25pm] Zarwayne: if he woulda gona along with it i had every intention of asking speedz to condense his characters into 3 accounts and unban 3 accounts... he got pissy and well now we dont deal with that.
[10:25pm] jeffray joined the chat room.
[10:25pm] jeffray: why keep booting me
[10:25pm] stairs: LORD JEFFRAY HAS RETURNED
[10:26pm] Zarwayne: awesome
[10:26pm] jeffray: ?
[10:26pm] Zarwayne: you Pinged out, i don't have permissions to ban or boot you
[10:26pm] Secretsphone: no one booted you
[10:26pm] Furst: * jeffray (potato@9B10B630.2A2918C0.627C4875.IP) Quit (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:27pm] Secretsphone: 182 second ping timeout
[10:27pm] jeffray: k
[10:27pm] Furst: maybe its the proxy
[10:27pm] Secretsphone: well that would explain his irc ip change
[10:27pm] jeffray: so zarwayne you are the one who banned me ?
[10:27pm] Zarwayne left the chat room. (Leaving)
[10:27pm] jeffray: lol
[10:29pm] Furst: pretty sure they said it was a script
[10:29pm] jeffray: a script despawns my camp?
[10:29pm] jeffray: doesnt make sense
[10:29pm] stairs: if you kill a mob the ydespawn
[10:29pm] jeffray: yeah
[10:29pm] jeffray: too bad i didnt kill it
[10:30pm] stairs: you might have did you ask the mob?
[10:30pm] jeffray: it despawned in my face and Themidget admitted
[10:30pm] Secretsphone: ?
[10:30pm] jeffray: who here is actually a GM?
[10:30pm] jeffray: is anyone?
[10:30pm] stairs: we are a democratic republic
[10:30pm] stairs: everyone is a GM
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: nope not here. just a coder
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: dont do disciplinary stuff
[10:32pm] stairs: unless its in the bedroom
[10:32pm] Secretsphone: lol
[10:33pm] jeffray: this is pointless
[10:33pm] robregen: I am just a contents lead and attends guide stuff if needed.
[10:33pm] Secretsphone: well, what did you expect coming into a development channel
[10:34pm] jeffray: an answer from a team
[10:34pm] robregen: if I were you. I would be patience and not go around throwing out your anger
[10:34pm] jeffray: lol
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: what team? you got banned on a server using our code
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: we are devs. not csrs.
[10:35pm] jeffray: your GMs are fucking with players and banning people
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: they arent our gma
[10:35pm] Secretsphone: gms*
[10:35pm] jeffray: lol
[10:36pm] jeffray: what kind of server is this
[10:36pm] stairs: a fun one
[10:36pm] stairs: if you dont hack
[10:36pm] robregen: it's a development server
[10:36pm] Secretsphone: a github repository
[10:36pm] Secretsphone: you can download and set up your own server if you want
[10:37pm] robregen: and invite your friend and family to come play with you
[10:37pm] kilroy: you could even 6 box with your alternate personalities 'satan' and 'gilgamesh'
[10:37pm] robregen: we even have rules set up so you can have all the glorified bugs that was on AK
[10:37pm] robregen: lol
[10:39pm] jeffray left the chat room. (Ping timeout: 182 seconds)
[10:39pm] Secretsphone: heh
[10:39pm] stairs: aww he was more fun when he was mad
[10:40pm] fifidong: you guys are driving all the fun people away
[10:40pm] Secretsphone: i just dont know why anyone would come into a dev channel and ask about a server that someone hosts using our code
[10:40pm] Secretsphone: seems pointless
[10:41pm] kilroy: and lie + get upset at that.
[10:41pm] kilroy: good way to get what you want.
[10:43pm] jeffray joined the chat room.
[10:44pm] jeffray: where is gm channel
[10:45pm] fifidong: not sure. I only saw link for coding channel,
[10:46pm] jeffray: and you guys really think im supposed to believe a script banned me?
[10:46pm] Secretsphone: there is no gm channel
[10:46pm] jeffray: does your script have a character that shows up in game and chats?
[10:46pm] stairs: yes
[10:46pm] Secretsphone: what ban? you can see github right?
[10:47pm] fifidong: code/scripts/etc are here: https://github.com/cavedude00/Server all visible.
[10:47pm] fifidong: mostly visible.
[10:47pm] jeffray: cool
[10:47pm] Secretsphone: we dont run a player server here, we develop the means needed to dev your own server
[10:47pm] jeffray: i dont care about programming
[10:48pm] fifidong: still trying to find the MYSQL username and password, so I can hit 50.
[10:48pm] stairs: i do
[10:48pm] jeffray: then why is your server called al kabor project
[10:48pm] stairs: 101001001111001001000101000111111001001010000101
[10:48pm] Secretsphone: its not our server
[10:48pm] jeffray: and ban me as well as others too?
[10:48pm] jeffray: lol
[10:48pm] jeffray: i feel like im talking to 10 year olds
[10:49pm] stairs: gilamesh said i was 14
[10:49pm] fifidong: 101001001111001001000101000111111001001010000101 = ï¿½ï¿½Eï¿½ï¿½
[10:49pm] Secretsphone: there are tak people here, but maybe you should post on their forums?
[10:49pm] jeffray: uh
[10:49pm] stairs: 01110100 01101111 01110101 01100011 01101000 00100000 01101101 01111001 00100000 01100100 01101111 01101110 01100111
[10:49pm] jeffray: last time i was in here i said i couldnt access the forum
[10:50pm] stairs: then zarwayne tried to help you
[10:50pm] jeffray: maybe you should listen to people's problems? satan guy said the same thing too
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: well, that isnt something the coders here have access to fix
[10:50pm] stairs: and you shat on his tacos
[10:50pm] jeffray: zarwayne slandered me and accused me of hacking
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: then take it up with him on tak
[10:50pm] fifidong: 0x48656c6c6f20576f726c6421
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: this isnt the tak irx
[10:50pm] Secretsphone: irc
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: im not sure they have one
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: sorry
[10:51pm] jeffray: zarwayne didnt ban me
[10:51pm] jeffray: Themidget did
[10:51pm] jeffray: so you are not really helpful
[10:51pm] Secretsphone: dont know who that is
[10:52pm] jeffray: and judging by the p99 forums, im not the only one with this problem
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: what problem?
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: you can view the github page
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: thats all we maintain here
[10:52pm] jeffray: getting banned for nothing and having GMs mess with me
[10:52pm] Secretsphone: no game servers
[10:52pm] jeffray: dude i dont care about your stupid code
[10:53pm] stairs: yes you do
[10:53pm] stairs: or you wouldnâ€™t be butthurt
[10:53pm] jeffray: your code did not talk to me in game
[10:53pm] Secretsphone: but thats why im curious as to why
[10:53pm] Secretsphone: you think coders can handle an issue on a server we dont run
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: so...
[10:54pm] jeffray: you have a GM character?
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: yes, for debugging crashes
[10:54pm] jeffray: you are in the fucking game as a GM?
[10:54pm] stairs: hes an aviak
[10:54pm] fifidong: Yo jeffray, seriously though. This is "everquest emulation development" channel.
[10:54pm] jeffray: run it locally then and stop being useless to people who support your server by playing on it when they have an issue?
[10:54pm] stairs: a red one
[10:54pm] Secretsphone: sure
[10:54pm] stairs: kida neat
[10:55pm] stairs: if you have never seen an aviak
[10:55pm] stairs: she*
[10:55pm] Secretsphone: but some issues can only be fixed and experienced in a live env
[10:55pm] Secretsphone: so.. moot point
[10:55pm] jeffray: yeah
[10:55pm] jeffray: everything youve said has been moot
[10:55pm] stairs: i just made an npc on my local server named jeffray
[10:55pm] stairs: hes talking to me
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: i dont have powers to do anything except debug
[10:56pm] jeffray: banned from forums and game
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: so wrong person
[10:56pm] jeffray: and you tell me to PM them on forums
[10:56pm] kilroy: secrets has the powers to sit and stand really fast
[10:56pm] jeffray: you arent very bright
[10:56pm] stairs: so you are asking us to solve a problem we canâ€™t solve
[10:56pm] stairs: maybe you are not very â€œbright"
[10:56pm] Secretsphone: well, neither are you coming in a dev channel asking for csr help
[10:56pm] jeffray: you dont have a CSR
[10:57pm] jeffray: and you are all GMs on this server
[10:57pm] stairs: then why are you bitching
[10:57pm] jeffray: the next logical thing to think of is to come here and talk with one
[10:57pm] Secretsphone: csr = gm
[10:57pm] Furst: this is totally wall of shame worthy
[10:57pm] Furst: stairs is the GM of A&H
[10:57pm] jeffray: wall of shame? this is why developers need team leaders
[10:57pm] fifidong: I do not thing GMs have access to USER_table.
[10:58pm] Secretsphone: we dont heh
[10:58pm] jeffray: keep telling yourself that
[10:58pm] Secretsphone: wouldnt want it anyways
[10:58pm] fifidong: think*
[10:58pm] fifidong: I vote Gilgamesh as the team leader.
[10:58pm] stairs: i vote for satan
[10:59pm] kilroy: are you sure he's the right man for the job? he's a 'digital gangster' . . . sounds scary.
[10:59pm] Secretsphone: anyways - do you need help setting up a server or can i go back to drinking my yuengling
[10:59pm] fifidong: Detroiter from Los Angeles.
[10:59pm] jeffray: thanks, just looking for a GM since none of you guys are GMs
[10:59pm] stairs: Zarwayne is a Gm
[10:59pm] jeffray: zarwayne isnt the one who banned me
[10:59pm] jeffray: we've gone through this
[10:59pm] kilroy: you should look deep into your soul, introspect and find the one true path. it's jesus.
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: well post on their forums
[11:00pm] jeffray: no
[11:00pm] Furst: can i get a yuengling
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: ok, then get out of the channel
[11:00pm] Secretsphone: ya sure
[11:00pm] jeffray: no
[11:00pm] kilroy: delete your cookies, change your ip, it isn't very hard to get around whatever is preventing you from posting there.
[11:00pm] Furst: we got them in ohio now, pretty damn good
[11:00pm] stairs: better yet EAT YOUR COOKIES
[11:01pm] jeffray: or you could just refer me to who is actually a "CSR" here
[11:01pm] stairs: you need to post on the forums to get a CSR
[11:01pm] Secretsphone: idk, dont run that server. speedz and zarwayne work on tak
[11:01pm] jeffray: and the guy who actually banned me
[11:02pm] kilroy: maybe if you'd talked to zarwayne like a normal adult human instead of pasting everything that was said into the public channel they would have helped you resolve your issue. just a thought.
[11:03pm] kilroy: but what do i know, i'm not too bright.
[11:03pm] fifidong: plus you are 14.
[11:03pm] fifidong: or 10.
[11:03pm] fifidong: +
[11:03pm] fifidong: *3/28.02.
[11:04pm] fifidong: cat
[11:04pm] jeffray: zarwayne called me a cheater and he doesnt even know the situation at all
[11:04pm] jeffray: seems like a dick
[11:04pm] jeffray: server is a joke
[11:04pm] kilroy: okay, bye. have a good night.
[11:05pm] stairs: coming to a channel full of coders to bitch about a csr issue is a joke
[11:05pm] kilroy: have fun on the p1999 boards, valakut.
[11:05pm] jeffray: then name your channel something else
[11:05pm] kilroy: scapeshift is a noob deck btw
[11:05pm] stairs: this channel is older then the tak project
[11:05pm] jeffray: than*
[11:06pm] Furst: pegmac =/= tak project
[11:06pm] Secretsphone: ^
[11:06pm] Furst: peqmac*
[11:07pm] Secretsphone: peqmac is accurate for describing the code
[11:07pm] Secretsphone: peq devs, mac client. peqmac
[11:08pm] robregen: it all derived from peq folks. with Secrets leading the netcode and the pc client
[11:10pm] jeffray: well work harder because this server already has a shit ton of negatives and not talking about code issues
[11:11pm] stairs: yea we had some buffer overflows
[11:11pm] stairs: that were overflowing to negatives
[11:11pm] stairs: but i think they are fixed
[11:11pm] Secretsphone: i will code better GMs right away
[11:12pm] Secretsphone: because thats something i can totally do
[11:12pm] Furst: have you seen the will smith movie called AI
[11:12pm] Secretsphone: ya
[11:12pm] Furst: we dont want that to happen

Now, is it completely irrational of the GMs of this server to offer to fix your ban issue, and have you go off on them instead of working with them on your issue, whilist complaining in a development channel that you have issues that no one there can resolve due to access restrictions? I'd imagine so.

Pokesan

01-18-2015, 01:45 AM

skimmed, seems like devs are taunting a misguided(stupid) player. good post secrets thank you.

Secrets

01-18-2015, 02:28 AM

skimmed, seems like devs are taunting a misguided(stupid) player. good post secrets thank you.

Well, devs can't, and shouldn't have to, do jack about player issues. GMs on TAKP should be doing that.

To be honest, if they're going off on people like me and other developers for something that a GM should do and only have access to do, well, not sure what to say to them. I am absolutely sure if he maintained his calm, he would have gotten unbanned if it was truly a misunderstanding. Instead, he went off on the people that could actually help him, and when they refused to help him, he went off on the repository developers.

Eventually his ability to not understand what he is being told becomes comical to us, and thus it seems like we're taunting.

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-18-2015, 03:07 AM

You treated a child like a child. I stand by my earlier response to his initial garbage post.

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-18-2015, 04:12 AM

did you back patch it with the EQMac resources folder?

if so you're not really using titanium.

I understand. That explains a lot actually. :eek:

Mandalore93

01-18-2015, 04:58 AM

Patriam if you're dead set on getting this to work I could see about uploading all my original files to drop box for you if you have premium. Failing that we could try planting my entire EQM folder. Not sure what your problem could be.

Bleepo

01-18-2015, 05:59 AM

skimmed, seems like devs are taunting a misguided(stupid) player. good post secrets thank you.

Yeah with this kind of BS behavior you finally are on par with the rest of the assholes in charge on this server. Way to show your colors.

Secrets

01-18-2015, 07:46 AM

Yeah with this kind of BS behavior you finally are on par with the rest of the assholes in charge on this server. Way to show your colors.

I'm not sure if that's directed at me or not, but if it is (I'm assuming it is)... why am I an asshole for telling someone I have no control over something, several times, and having them ignore what I was saying and continue on their tyrade about something I have no power to fix?

Clearly, the person has potentially broken the rules of the place they were in and when confronted were handing out insults and moved the private conversation into a public place. They mouthed off at volunteers who are not paid and do not deserve the abuse for providing something for free.
Then, they proceed to insult people in an unrelated IRC chat room that happens to have people from the server that is hosted using our code. And you want this person to still be able to play on the server even after all of that when they could have cooperated instead of acting like an irrational human being? You're lucky Rogean or Akkadius didn't come into the room and gline this person from EQEmulator's IRC with the way they were treating developers.

Playing on these servers, might I add, even p99, is a privilege that can be denied to you, not a human right to play on them. This goes for any project. If someone doesn't want you in their house, they can kick you out. Make your own house if you don't want to be subject to the rules of the house.

Swish

01-18-2015, 08:17 AM

Thanks for that post Secrets, good read ;p

Haynar

01-18-2015, 10:43 AM

Welcome to tak (p99 II).

Same story diff day.

Still funny.

Bleepo

01-18-2015, 01:09 PM

Welcome to tak (p99 II).

Same story diff day.

Still funny.

Just wait until you are on the receiving end of some of the TAK shenanigans. You will change your tune.

I have played on P99 for a total of 3 years on and off, and never have I seen such blatant power abuse or vindictive behavior from server staff on P99. The age of TAK on the other hand is 18 days.

I am not saying P99 doesn't have problems, but TAK really puts those in perspective. At least Rogean and Nilbog aren't clinically insane

Haynar

01-18-2015, 02:27 PM

There will always be some staff members that go rogue. Anyone on an emu server knows that. And if the server gets big, where do you think the banned ppl from p99 will end up?

A certain level of insanity is required to run a server.

The issues at 1000 players is 10 times that of 100 players. And with so many boxing, its gonna easily turn into a fun mess.

I will rarely group. I don't want to raid. It is just a break there for me.

H

Patriam1066

01-18-2015, 03:29 PM

titanium is not supposed to work for TAKP, that was your problem.

I meant I started with titanium. I followed the instructions on bob's PM. The EQMac resources folder, the 2.2 patch, etc. So yeah, technically not titanium.

And mandalore thanks but that's not necessary. I have the files and I followed the instructions, I think its something like a rights issue on my end. I just have no idea what it is

Mandalore93

01-18-2015, 04:49 PM

To be honest, I do think it's a problem with the free version of drop box not downloading the resources folder completely. It was one of two things that I ended up changing in the end to get the bastard to work. Plus it turns out dropbox is actually pretty useful for tons of other shit.

Patriam (and others): I'm hosting the whole eqmac folder that was working for me on dropbox for a guy I've been trying to help for the last few days. PM me if you want details on it. It's a pretty big DL so you need premium version of dropbox or at least around 10 GBs to download the whole thing and I make no guarantees it will fix all your problems. Just that it was working for me.

Haynar

01-18-2015, 06:37 PM

Free version of drop box is limited.

Someone should put together a smaller package, that someone with titanium could drop into their folder the needed different files.

H

Mandalore93

01-18-2015, 07:18 PM

Secrets

01-18-2015, 09:24 PM

I have played on P99 for a total of 3 years on and off, and never have I seen such blatant power abuse or vindictive behavior from server staff on P99. The age of TAK on the other hand is 18 days.

You obviously weren't there for the IB/DA drama, the Amelinda/Uthgaard times, the Cyrius/Hobby reign, the Xzerion drama, myself and the drama I caused, or any of the other things that you dismiss as irrelevant because it didn't affect you at the time.

Grow up and realize that issues that don't affect you negatively are still issues that may effect someone else negatively.

I've done exactly that, hence why I am posting here on these forums still.

Same shit, different toilet.

citizen1080

01-18-2015, 09:48 PM

The problem is that the resource folder is just a tad bit over 2 GB (the free limit) and doesn't seem to download fully. Throw on top of that if you're not already familiar with changing a bunch of shit in Titanium that it can be a pretty difficult/frustrating process.

Sooo...yes, if the file is over 2gb you wont get all the files IN your web based dropbox account. However, it will still download all the files to your local dropbox on your computer. copy the files from that folder instead of out of your browser dropbox. That may or may not be your issue.

Pokesan

01-18-2015, 11:18 PM

Sooo...yes, if the file is over 2gb you wont get all the files IN your web based dropbox account. However, it will still download all the files to your local dropbox on your computer. copy the files from that folder instead of out of your browser dropbox. That may or may not be your issue.

Do the things this man says, he is wise and handsome!

Had the same problem with dropbox myself

pharmakos

01-18-2015, 11:42 PM

lol @ classic uthgaard vs. abacab drama

very entertaining, would read again :D

Secrets

01-19-2015, 12:00 AM

Hey, don't lump me in with Amelinda. I crossed lines into the real world with a sidekick in a calculated vigilante style (http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66348&page=33) to stop people from ddossing the server after being banned for RMT.

Not as some sobbing emotional train-wreck who was trying to dry-hump my sidekick (www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=961856) via text message in a horribly misguided attempt to imitate my style.

Going all batman/arrow on the bad people (www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67326) doesn't work if you're just a crazy bitch to everyone indiscriminately.
I went every bit as far out of my way to help the good players. Secretly farming mobs and foraging plains pebbles to do reimbursements before I had the GM commands to do them.

I was moreso referring to the fact that during that era, you were the only voice of reason fighting for truth and the players :P

She was Judas, and you were John.

Amirite

01-19-2015, 12:04 AM

Mandalore93

01-19-2015, 01:12 PM

Got a confirmation my files work. If you're having issues and have Dropbox premium or don't care about ten bucks send me a pm.

Cyrano

01-19-2015, 04:58 PM

Looks like we got all the crazy players and GM's in one place now. Great job!

Haynar

01-19-2015, 05:10 PM

Looks like we got all the crazy players and GM's in one place now. Great job!

If they are all in the same place, then you know where to find them.

Duh.

H

LittleSorcerer7

01-19-2015, 07:44 PM

Server is going strong :) if you need help getting on PM me.
Safe Travels,
-Taledar

Laberintica

01-22-2015, 01:14 AM

such a nice break from p99 / having a blast

Secrets

01-22-2015, 12:03 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7bLH4kJ9k

message boardssssssss

Byrjun

01-22-2015, 12:07 PM

Big Byrjun doing big things, killing Phinny and waiting for dragon AEs to get fixed.

Server is fun, found out how much I missed being able to box.

Haynar

01-22-2015, 05:59 PM

Boxing is what has me playing there. Level 7 now. Rawr.

H

radditsu

01-22-2015, 09:30 PM

Man this server used to have some great threads. You never know what you got til it's gone. Pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

radditsu

01-22-2015, 09:33 PM

Also. Secrets. Darling. Underfoot or newer client please.

Big_Japan

01-22-2015, 10:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7bLH4kJ9k

message boardssssssss

PRAISE SECRETS

Laugher

01-22-2015, 10:27 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb7bLH4kJ9k

message boardssssssss

Pras FQ sim inside elf sim

Pokesan

01-22-2015, 11:23 PM

Man this server used to have some great threads. You never know what you got til it's gone. Pave paradise and put up a parking lot.

are you being nostalgic about a message board?

pharmakos

01-23-2015, 01:30 AM

Pras FQ sim inside elf sim

we should play dungeons and dragons via text through the in-game EQ message boards.

apio

01-23-2015, 08:58 AM

Not worth it

radditsu

01-23-2015, 12:35 PM

are you being nostalgic about a message board?

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjEwMzg5MTUwOF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMTI2NDE2NQ@@._ V1_SY317_CR104,0,214,317_AL_.jpg

Secrets

01-23-2015, 12:55 PM

I'm being nostalgic about a message board on a message board, on a topic which contains a link to a video about ingame message boards.

Siberious

01-23-2015, 01:42 PM

As I am still in the process of getting this started, I see even though it is progression based people can make BST right now, does this mean the Vah Shir race is available?

I want to make a Vah Shir BST to mirror my EQ experience, so if it's unavailable until Luclin I might have to roll something else or wait :/

Daldaen

01-23-2015, 01:48 PM

You can make a Vah Shir Beastlord.

It's just that beyond Shar Vahl and Shadeweavers Thicket no other LUCLIN zones are open. So you have to go to PoK and level in classic zones.

Siberious

01-23-2015, 01:57 PM

Awesome, that's just fine, no issue leveling in classic zones, just wanted my Vah Shir BST!

Laugher

01-23-2015, 02:50 PM

I'm being nostalgic about a message board on a message board, on a topic which contains a link to a video about ingame message boards.

http://i.imgur.com/DuDVOwX.gif

citizen1080

01-23-2015, 09:58 PM

Had to travel to billings for work this week...so i have a lot of PM's in my inbox. Resend me a request if you still need the files please.

Portasaurus

01-23-2015, 10:22 PM

Does this server allow casinos?

citizen1080

01-23-2015, 11:12 PM

Does this server allow casinos?

Casino's are Pop Classic iirc? Or was that after Pop

Bleepo

01-24-2015, 08:12 AM

Swish

01-24-2015, 10:24 AM

Get out, looks like an RMT haven with plenty of MQ, legal boxing and other nasties.

Byrjun

01-24-2015, 10:28 AM

Get out, looks like an RMT haven with plenty of MQ, legal boxing and other nasties.

lol

Laugher

01-24-2015, 10:49 AM

Does this server allow casinos?

hehe I have yet to see a casino, although after doing a search on the rules post over on the takp forums it doesnt look like "casino" or "gambling" are mentioned anywhere in the rules thread

Byrjun

01-24-2015, 11:18 AM

Laugher I wanted to buy your spider silks but I was stuck in Guk camping the lord. :(

Orruar

01-24-2015, 01:31 PM

Apparently cheating and exploiting is alright as long as you are a member of Destiny.

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2330

5 to 6k to max out JC? Get the F outta here. Destiny Carebear server being obvious

According to that thread, there are reports that this is how it worked on the Al'Kabor server before it was shut down. Seeing as how their goal is to recreate the Al'Kabor experience, it would seem it is working as intended. But by all means, continue the jihad in your search for a pure EQ experience that matches your own personal expectations.

Bleepo

01-24-2015, 02:04 PM

According to that thread, there are reports that this is how it worked on the Al'Kabor server before it was shut down. Seeing as how their goal is to recreate the Al'Kabor experience, it would seem it is working as intended. But by all means, continue the jihad in your search for a pure EQ experience that matches your own personal expectations.

The only people commenting that way on that topic are in Destiny, which is no surprise, they are covering their guildmate's ass.

Oh look, they fooled you! Congratulations you are an idiot.

Orruar

01-24-2015, 02:07 PM

The only people commenting that way on that topic are in Destiny, which is no surprise, they are covering their guildmate's ass.

Oh look, they fooled you! Congratulations you are an idiot.

Oh no, they fooled me with evidence! Did you play on Al'Kabor and have a different experience with JC? Do you have links to things like prices on Allakhazam that back up your argument? Or is this another conspiracy theory that seem so common around these parts?

Bleepo

01-24-2015, 02:20 PM

what evidence?

A guy as clueless as Pouky isn't a reliable source, and even if he was, that's still no evidence.

This is the guy in charge btw, obviously bipolar

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2359

We feel extra special that you pay such close attention to us.
I don't know if I should be worried or not.
Stalker much?

Buellen

01-24-2015, 06:07 PM

bleep why do you care so much ? if their a bug do what normal people on server do is post them with evidence on the bug forums.

<removed my comments as they are inflaming.>

This server is far far far from and exact copy of alkabor but with help of players it can get their. SO what if people take advantage of the bugs. Find the bug and report them is your best bet. Enjoy the game and help it turn into what alkabor was.

someone got to 250 JC oh my god its the end of the world !!! guess what their will be tons of 250 JC in a few months <shrug>

Pokesan

01-25-2015, 12:55 AM

bleepo stop cyberbullying the takproject admins. OR ELSE

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/image/1386/19/1386198230909.png

Byrjun

01-25-2015, 09:05 AM

someone got to 250 JC oh my god its the end of the world !!! guess what their will be tons of 250 JC in a few months <shrug>

I guess the point of contention is that you have some enchanters not wanting to exploit a possible bug funneling 10s of thousands of plat into JC and other enchanters possibly exploiting a bug getting max JC at a fraction of the investment.

Whether this is a bug or not is open to interpretation as well. I didn't play on Al Kabor, maybe JC was unusually inexpensive to skill up there due to some wonky resale values. But the TAK devs don't seem to mind fixing TAK's shortcomings (pet pulling, charm, pacify, shadow knight fixes for example).

Daldaen

01-25-2015, 09:17 AM

Played on Al'Kabor got 250 JC on a druid and an enchanter.

All the resale values were normal. It was a known feature that merchants pay more for enchanted pieces of jewelry. Guides from 2003 confirm this. I never bothered with it on Al'Kabor because the platinum loss was negligible at level 65, especially when I could box most any planar named and make the 5-10k that JC costs. Plus we never get Mass Enchants on Al'Kabor so enchanting would take for frickenever.

If they are selling for exorbitant amounts more than the non-enchanted probably needs a fix. But the way it was described sounds like it goes from like 90% sell back with non-enchanted to about 105% with enchanted. Factoring in failures you can't really generate platinum using this, which is why I would imagine it was left in.

Bleepo

01-26-2015, 08:55 AM

News Flash:

After realizing that most alpha test rewards were actually handed out to the competition, Speedz and the other Destiny Developers today finally removed the Stones of Gnoming that were given out to OUTSTANDING ALPHA TESTERS as a reward for all their hard work.

The Staff keeps talking about players having a sense of entitlement, while calling the folks from "Armed and Hammered" exploiters and cheaters, repeatedly, on the forums, via ingame broadcasts and on the IRC channel. They continually foster the divide between Armed And Hammered Members and the rest of the server, and therefore create a toxic gaming environment, for really everyone on the server.

IMO the only people with a sense of entitlement on that server are the people in charge, who repeatedly SPIT INTO THE FACE of the people who have helped them, and continue to help them to make this server a better place by being the most active beta testers and reporters of bugs, despite being publically defamed on a daily basis. They show no respect for their players and their decisions are all cringeworthy. They don't deserve the respect they EXPECT.

If it wasn't so obvious and transparent (and therefore insulting to the intelligence of the people playing there) what is going on there, and how unfairly people are being treated, I wouldn't even come here to post this.

But the Nazi regime on the boards, coupled with constant THREATS of being banned for various reasons when trying to discuss issues with the developers, doesn't really leave me another choice than to come here to a neutral space and voice my concerns here in the safety of anonymity.

I will keep bringing you the newest developments about the server because I think the community has a right to know this stuff. Don't let the fanboys and destineers fool you. Shit is not as nice as it seems, there are real problems that will not be solved until they are actually acknowledged by the people in charge.

Swish

01-26-2015, 08:58 AM

This is what happens when you allow multi-boxing, everyone loses their minds. Thank god for p99

Byrjun

01-26-2015, 10:23 AM

Gnomes being removed as a playable race.

They will be replaced by Othmir.

apio

01-26-2015, 10:28 AM

They weren't removed, they were replaced with guise of the deceiver
I personally prefer the dark elf illusion but the instant click item was quite handy

Elroz

01-26-2015, 12:58 PM

Thought I'd chime in and say I'm having a blast on this server. There's still quite a few bugs (pathing, some mob warping, and tweaking to drop rates) but I think once those are fixed this server will feel really smooth. Most the people I've played with are enjoying it as well, but there's always a few vocal people who just want to stir things up. It's been really laid back and fun for me though. In the month since beta started I think it's improved a lot and don't see any reason it will stop.

Bleepo

01-26-2015, 03:44 PM

News Flash:

Destiny uses an XP exploit to level half their guild to level 50 within a few days, look at this Broadcast that just came in:

We have been aware of a xp exploit that exists. Due to the wide spread knowledge of this exploit this would be a PR nightmare. So we have to look at it like a Lawyer. We can't say not to but we can't say yes to it. It is entirely up to you at this point until we fix it. But keep in mind, Kunark will be a long ways off. Even if xp was not exploitable we would have most of the population to 50 by the time Kunark is released. The faster you get to 50, the faster you burn out

You can bet your ass if ANH would have used and exploited this bug, they would all be collectively banned at this point. But since it is Destiny care bear central, nothing will happen.

The worst thing isn't even that, it is that they are willing to sacrifice the integrity of the server to not have to punish their own guild mates.

I will keep you guys up to date as this ridiculous story continues to unfold

Bleepo

01-26-2015, 03:55 PM

At least this means we won't be waiting for Naggy and Vox to be introduced much longer, since now Destiny is leveled enough to wipe on them. I already thought we would have to wait another month for them to be ready.

/sarcasm off

Tuffpuppy

01-26-2015, 04:32 PM

What is the xp exploit?

Haynar

01-26-2015, 04:49 PM

What is the xp exploit?
Was gonna ask too. But didn't.

What will destroy the server is favoritism. The rules said exploits were bannable. I dont remember the "unless enough people do them" part.

Wont change the game I am playing there tho.

The perma ban if you quote a GM has me wondering. Just promotes corruption.

H

Amplitude

01-26-2015, 04:54 PM

Destiny was such a shit guild on Eqmac

Byrjun

01-26-2015, 04:55 PM

Their reaction to an exploit depends on which people/guild are using and benefiting from said exploit.

The exp one has to do with grouping with high levels, they can kill greens that don't give them exp but if the mob is blue-red to the others they get exp from it. So you can just mow down a lot of easy mobs like SolA gnomes on some level 50s to powerlevel some dudes.

Honestly not that big of a deal since I got 50 pretty fast legitimately. The exp isn't as slow as P99 anyways.

Daldaen

01-26-2015, 05:19 PM

Destiny was such a shit guild on Eqmac

Eh they were one of two guilds to see the Elemental Planes on that server.

Unless you count hackers who warped into zones or the few people who figured out how to glitch their way through the lava tube in ToSR.

Tuffpuppy

01-26-2015, 05:37 PM

Ahh I see. Well if they aren't banning people for this and if anyone has any free time I am soloing on a Druid with not a ton of time to play. Could use some of this xp lovin. Let me know!

Amplitude

01-26-2015, 09:06 PM

Eh they were one of two guilds to see the Elemental Planes on that server.

Unless you count hackers who warped into zones or the few people who figured out how to glitch their way through the lava tube in ToSR.

would of been three guilds if the other two didn't exploit mechanics 24/7 to train the guild 1 kill away from entering

and the person that was caught warping that ended up getting the server shut down was Layonhands...Destiny's raid leader at the time

so yeah

shit guild

Swish

01-26-2015, 09:23 PM

Every new page I read about this server makes me more sad. The potential it could have had...

Box integrity rating...

http://blogs.e-rockford.com/applesauce/files/2008/12/down_graph-blog_thumbnail1.jpg

surron

01-26-2015, 10:54 PM

god please drop velious already so these p99 chodes leave TAKP alone. i've never seen so many fat 35 year olds care about an elf sim so much.

for the record I wasn't in destiny on mac and I'm not now but enchanting bars turned a profit on eqmac by 5%. plus tinkering turned a bigger profit

anyways so many queers crying about boxing when 50% of the population boxes on blue and even more on red. and lets not get into the rampant use of myseq here

Pokesan

01-26-2015, 11:07 PM

the corpse of eqmac has been exhumed and is being defiled and debased by the TAK staff

should have let it rest in peace

Haynar

01-26-2015, 11:11 PM

the corpse of eqmac has been exhumed and is being defiled and debased by the TAK staff

should have let it rest in peace

The code is open source I think.

We could open M99. Booyah.

H

SHOWITME

01-26-2015, 11:41 PM

server any good? worth playing with minimal time ?

Byrjun

01-27-2015, 12:08 AM

server any good? worth playing with minimal time ?

I'm enjoying it.

SHOWITME

01-27-2015, 12:11 AM

does it require patch or can i use p99 file?

SHOWITME

01-27-2015, 01:06 AM

dont see the server

Secrets

01-27-2015, 07:01 AM

I specifically made the code open source so that people could avoid a scenario where one person controls the keys, so by all means, if P99 wants to open their own M99 server, well, go for it, nothing is stopping you and I'd honestly support it :)

Swish

01-27-2015, 07:26 AM

Laugher

01-27-2015, 08:03 AM

We could open M99. Booyah.

H

I can see it now: 1.2k people running in 800x600 because they're forced to use classic UI on mac client :eek:

http://i.imgur.com/v4hxkHl.gif

Haynar

01-27-2015, 08:53 AM

I dont see an M99 in the future. Fun to talk about tho.

I still want a zombie based wasteland of norrath. Z99. Much funner idea.

H

Daldaen

01-27-2015, 09:49 AM

would of been three guilds if the other two didn't exploit mechanics 24/7 to train the guild 1 kill away from entering

and the person that was caught warping that ended up getting the server shut down was Layonhands...Destiny's raid leader at the time

so yeah

shit guild

Every guild was getting trained by some exploiter. It wasn't just your guild. For example we had a level 1 warping and at bard speed in PoTime. Had them show up in PoFire and PoEarth a few times too if I remember right.

To blame the person who trained you on Rallos Zek alone for the reason the server got shut down is a bit short sighted.

Wookiewoowoo

01-27-2015, 02:07 PM

Yeah, they are allowing 3 boxxing with the IP tracking like p1999 does. But honestly im not boxxing and the server is legit. Ive died 15 times trying to get to level 2. I think P1999 beginning mobs were made easier.

Yes from my experience P99 beginning mobs are easier then takproject.

MEGANS LAW

01-27-2015, 04:12 PM

Amplitude

01-27-2015, 05:41 PM

Every guild was getting trained by some exploiter. It wasn't just your guild. For example we had a level 1 warping and at bard speed in PoTime. Had them show up in PoFire and PoEarth a few times too if I remember right.

To blame the person who trained you on Rallos Zek alone for the reason the server got shut down is a bit short sighted.

The server got shut down after TSE was long gone, What got the server shut down is the level ones warping around and getting into zones like POTime. It is a well known fact that the person doing it was in Destiny at the time and was the raid leader Layonhands. He admitted to doing it.

So yeah shit guild.... shit people

Haynar

01-27-2015, 06:24 PM

apio

01-27-2015, 06:37 PM

Yeah LOH is a real dbag. While AK was closing down he was already hacking and exploiting over on PEQ (which I hear over there is called "playing")

Haynar

01-27-2015, 06:51 PM

I love watching the patch notes on takp. Brings back so many memories of dealing with and fixing code. And they have yet to really get into optimizing code. Base eqemu code tends to be a tad inefficient.

Its like ... Yep, remember that bug... Oh they fixed that. Hmm, wonder if they missed such and such. Three patches later, yep ... they did.

Brings back some good times.

I love on their boards, when someone is comparing their mechanics, to p99. That gives me a chuckle.

I am enjoying the server. I do like how they police the drama. Maybe too much, but that will keep the dorks out there from focusing on p99 for a change.

Its still fun there. Level 10 now.

H

Wharhog

01-27-2015, 06:54 PM

So Destiny on Takp are the same exploiters from eqmac, and thats the guild the ppl running the server are mainly in?

Or just the same top guild name?

Need this info if I ever wanna chase joining a guild....

Destiny were far from exploiters....they were the happy family casual guild on EQMAC, LOH was in any guild that would take him.....he got booted multiple times from different guild.

One being Exodus/TSE.

Destiny on takp is leveling slowly and doing their thing.

Haynar

01-27-2015, 07:14 PM

I would love to be in a top guild, just for guild chat. I can stand them better. I rarely get to group or raid. I would just be that other guy in guild chat.

H

Secrets

01-27-2015, 07:23 PM

I hear ya, Haynar. Server does get lonely at times when soloing >_<

PEQ folk banned LOH a few times from PEQTGC, if i remember right. I doubt they'd let him play here.

Should make a p99 guild on there... you know, for shits and giggles :P

Haynar

01-27-2015, 07:26 PM

Ewwww. A p99 guild? Gag. Kinda threw up a lil in my mouth. Yuk.

erog84

01-27-2015, 07:42 PM

Ya Layonhands been suspended multiple times on peq, no suprise. He was the one training malignant while the lvl 1 war per training destiny was an ex guildy of destiny who got kicked out and the same with the person training temerity( ex tem member). Lot of respect for some of the destiny members, but I know some of them were complicit and/or just enjoyed the fact that malignant was being trained.

I really had high hopes for this server but at this point I haven't liked a lot of what's going on so far. Much appreciation to the time and energy spent on devs and testers alike, but there is a big disconnect between some of the player base and the gm's. Since the player base is so small anyways, it is going to hav a big impact on the server IMO. Over a year ago I asked a friend who was involved in the dev group about trying to help out coding but was basically told that the dev team was hard to work with and almost impossible to gain their trust. As to the truth of this I have no idea, but seeing some of the stuff pop up now makes me thing their is something to that.... All unfortunate because it's no small task for the work the devs do, and it's "their" server, but was hoping for a server that embodied the best of eqmac.

Bleepo

01-27-2015, 07:47 PM

So since the lead GM has decided to give everyone the green light to go exploit the bug, Destiny has been power leveling their sub 30 Mains and Alts by grouping them with their level 50s in Sol A. At this very moment there are 3 full Destiny PL groups going on in Sol A. It is a sight to behold.

The fact that this isn't being patched immediately is just another sign for the downward spiral this server is in, and the blatant favoritism. After all, they used to take down the server immediately to fix such exploits as a 70% drop rate on the Hooded Black Cloak or to change the order in which certain NPCs will cast their spells from their spellset, or simply just to reset a broken Cabilis West zone. But for some reason, even though half of the server is using a known exploit to level up at this very moment, it will take them at least another 2 to 3 days before this bug will be fixed.

Insiders have revealed Destiny is now only 3 to 4 weeks away from tackling the Fire Giants, and we all know Vox and Naggy will be released right after that !

Speedz and other officials are not willing to comment on the situation at this moment. They are more concerned with finding out the true identity of yours truly to end my crusade for a LEVEL PLAYING FIELD and FAIRNESS.

I will keep fighting the good fight!

Sincerely, Bleepo
Hero of the Server

Edit: Pretending you are a new player trying to get started on TAK and asking me for my ingame name to chat is NOT GOING TO WORK, Speedz. The same goes for lame ass attempts of making me post on the TAK forums. After all I do not break the rules, and will NOT create a second account there, and I am not going to reveal my identity to a forum troll. Amateurs..

Haynar

01-27-2015, 07:57 PM

erog84

01-27-2015, 08:26 PM

Not too concerned abt current exp exploit. When cap was 65, took a few mages to put in VT, from 0-55, emp keyed, emp kill, in 8hrs total played.

Doing a PL is easy.

Allowing exploits to stay, so guilds can mow down raid mobs. Well, that ruins things.

Fight the fights that need fighting.

My goal is to be at least 50 by the time SoL comes out.

H

I agree for the most part... But when things seem in favor of a guild and there is already gm's in that guild.... Does not give for a bright future for the people who aren't in that guild. And judging by past things that happened on eqmac just adds to it. I really really hope this server turns out great and that I am just reading into things that aren't there, but for now I am going to take a break and see how it unfolds. I still have p99 for now, but I really want to raid me some luclin and pop.

Haynar

01-27-2015, 08:38 PM

You cannot tell the effect of the GMs in that guild yet. Many will think favoritism even if its not. Who cares. Play. Have fun.

You will find what you are looking for if you search hard enough. You will see things in a biased nature.

If you want what Destiny has so bad? Join them.

H

kalzin

01-27-2015, 10:04 PM

Pretending you are a new player trying to get started on TAK and asking me for my ingame name to chat is NOT GOING TO WORK, Speedz.

I assume this was targeted at me... since when am I speeds? well obviously you don't want to group or socialize; which is fine you should have just told me so.

N E Wayz... anyone else have a lowbie toon and wanna hep out a starting chanter? name is Gelba, 6 - gnome. HMU in game or PM me here.

Secrets

01-27-2015, 10:57 PM

Over a year ago I asked a friend who was involved in the dev group about trying to help out coding but was basically told that the dev team was hard to work with and almost impossible to gain their trust.

You do realize you can download the server and make changes to it and submit them, right? It's not a matter of trust, unless you mean 'i want to be a GM'.

Pokesan

01-27-2015, 11:37 PM

bleepo, you're 5000 candles in the wind. keep up the good work!

erog84

01-28-2015, 12:00 AM

You do realize you can download the server and make changes to it and submit them, right? It's not a matter of trust, unless you mean 'i want to be a GM'.

Yes he mentioned that to me and I read about it also. I don't NEED to be BM or anything, I am more than happy to help without any recognition or supreme power, etc. I don't remember the exact conversation, but I do recall my feelings at the time were kind of meh in regards to submitting fixes to GM's that seemed like they were hard to please. I have NO IDEA if this is the case, just passing along what I was told, and why certain things going on right now seem questionable to me. Could the Devs/Gms (including yourself) be 100% legit and the server becomes everything anyone can hope for? Of course, and I hope that is the case, but I would be naive in thinking that it's all ANH fault, and the Devs/Gm's are perfect people.

I'm hoping all this can blow over and we can see a stable server with a good relationship between the Devs and all members of the community. For now I will hold off playing anymore until that is apparent because like anyone, I honestly don't want to have a time dump into something I don't enjoy.

Clark

01-28-2015, 12:27 AM

That sounds absolutely fucking terrible. That's the worst idea I've ever heard. Thanks Tom.

http://www.caffeine-headache.net/weblog/officespace6.jpg

lol

Imaa

01-28-2015, 12:29 AM

Yeah LOH is a real dbag. While AK was closing down he was already hacking and exploiting over on PEQ (which I hear over there is called "playing")

its funny you call out LOH when you're guilded with Armed & Hammered on the new server haha. They're core was automating CH chains and exploiting content on EQmac for a long time.

Pokesan

01-28-2015, 12:55 AM

oh cool another pointless slapfight about guild politics on a server that's been dead for over a year

this is way more important than the staff being rather terrible; thanks for your post Imaa

Zapatos

01-28-2015, 01:24 AM

its funny you call out LOH when you're guilded with Armed & Hammered on the new server haha. They're core was automating CH chains and exploiting content on EQmac for a long time.

Hey Imaa! I take offense to that :P

jetviper21

01-28-2015, 01:46 AM

its funny you call out LOH when you're guilded with Armed & Hammered on the new server haha. They're core was automating CH chains and exploiting content on EQmac for a long time.

Wait since when did zamiel join the core of Armed & Hammered im confused i didn't invite him

Flamewraith

01-28-2015, 02:03 AM

They are very quick to threaten perma bans here. Every day I log on and see a new bannable offence.

KagatobLuvsAnimu

01-28-2015, 02:21 AM

They are very quick to threaten perma bans here. Every day I log on and see a new bannable offence.

You say that like its a bad thing. :)

apio

01-28-2015, 07:58 AM

its funny you call out LOH when you're guilded with Armed & Hammered on the new server haha. They're core was automating CH chains and exploiting content on EQmac for a long time.

First of all, as has been pointed out, Zamiel is not a part of our guild, let alone our core. And even if he was, that wouldn't change the fact that Layonhands was a piece of s**t, both on EQMac and on PEQ. But I am glad that you registered on the boards just to defend him, he must be happy he still has fans

Your boy was exploiting and warping to interrupt other peoples raids and gaming experience, while Zamiel ran a CH chain bot. I'd rather be guilded with Zamiel than anyone who defends LoH's actions.

Imaa

01-28-2015, 09:28 AM

Swish

01-28-2015, 09:32 AM

As a window into Tak Project, is this thread encouraging or dissuading people from starting there... do you think?

Gucci Mane

01-28-2015, 11:50 AM

whats th xp xploit?

Byrjun

01-28-2015, 12:01 PM

As a window into Tak Project, is this thread encouraging or dissuading people from starting there... do you think?

Doesn't encourage/dissuade anyone from starting on TAK anymore than any random P99 thread encourages/dissuades people from playing on P99 imo. The same drama that's being brought up here has been brought up on P99 countless times.

Kinda hoping Bleepo isn't AnH but he probably is. Honestly it did feel like AnH was being targeted with some of the dealings early on, but lately things have been better. Destiny was the guild taking advantage of the exp exploit, and that was fixed relatively quickly yesterday. And as I've been saying in game, the exp exploit isn't even that big of a deal considering how quickly you can get level 50 legitimately. Who cares if someone got some extra levels, everyone will be 50 eventually, there's no class penalties and it's not p99 exp rates.

Why can't we just all get along and play EQ? The only thing I'm super frustrated about is the bugged drop rates, but whatever I still play. I'm just hoping that Nagafen gets added soon so people have a new topic to start drama about.

Secrets

01-28-2015, 12:32 PM

Could the Devs/Gms (including yourself) be 100% legit and the server becomes everything anyone can hope for? Of course, and I hope that is the case, but I would be naive in thinking that it's all ANH fault, and the Devs/Gm's are perfect people.

Devs don't deal with these types of issues.. GMs do.

apio

01-28-2015, 02:52 PM

My join date says June 2014, but I never had the urge to post until now haha. Everyone who benefitted from zam's exploits knew what he was doing and didn't try to stop him. That makes them just as guilty as Zam. I don't know what LOH did but if you think he's bad, the guild you're in now isn't much better.

I stand corrected, didn't see your join date. Still you broke your silence for LOH of all people, and my statement stands that I would rather guild with someone who uses a hack to run a CH Chain to help his guild than someone who uses a hack to grief other people, interrupt their raids and force a rotation on them.

Wharhog

01-28-2015, 03:27 PM

We never automated ch chains, nice try tho.

erog84

01-28-2015, 04:31 PM

its funny you call out LOH when you're guilded with Armed & Hammered on the new server haha. They're core was automating CH chains and exploiting content on EQmac for a long time.

I stopped playing when zamiel joined TSE on eqmac. As mentioned, a ch chain bot (still wrong to do), is much different than what layonhands has been doing for years, and yet you still defend him. Doesn't suprise me considering the main guy you duo'd with for a long time was....layonhands. I recall quite a bit on eqmac how you were always saying you stay out of drama, and yet you pair with one of the worst guys for it.

It's just going to turn in a flame war, so this will be my last post directed at that specific thing, and back on topic of trying to have a good relationship between the GM's/Devs and the playerbase, for the benefit of all.

kalzin

01-28-2015, 04:41 PM

It would appear that the issues with the server are all higher end issues... like with loot and stuff only the farmers really get screwed over. yes people need loot but I don't think it's too much of an issue. Seems like they are heading down the right path with a dedicated CSR GM and then coders/admins for higher-level things. will be exciting once the bugs are worked out. I think this is still beta anyway.

baub

01-28-2015, 10:40 PM

layonhands u r fuckin perfect m8.
you're a flower. you're also a rainbow and a river. you are the manifestation of all perfection and i want to i don't fucking know. i want this to not sound gay, but you are fucking perfect, layonhands.

Laberintica

01-30-2015, 04:21 PM

Really fun server, great people, everyone is quite helpful.
So refreshing going after obsolete loot (on p99) that its top tier here! Ykeshas! Fbss! Diamondine earrings! Bronze armor ! woaaaah!

Have fun and join us :)

Portasaurus

01-30-2015, 04:26 PM

Is there, or is there not, currently edible ICE CREAM on this server?

Daldaen

01-30-2015, 04:47 PM

It's a shame the only drama people are interested in was the training of TSE and Malignant near the end of the servers life. There was way more interesting drama going on before this.

radditsu

01-30-2015, 07:04 PM

If yall got a decent cheal chain macro. Send it my way.

I also never had a problem with layonhands in peq. But I was sparsely playing then.

Speedling

01-30-2015, 08:44 PM

I miss ya Baub.

apio

01-31-2015, 06:12 AM

I just got banned from their forums for ranting and flaming on the rants and flames forums... Mind you I was just commenting on how the players bug reporting are also volunteers, not just the server staff. I would know, since I have posted over 450 Bug reports personally. I guess some people can't handle the truth.

I would say I am surprised but my last interaction in PM with a GM they basically told me if I dared to reply to the PM with anything but "I am sorry you are the man" I would get banned for good for staff harassment

Speedling

01-31-2015, 06:23 AM

Apio,

You by far have the most condescending attitude. I don't blame the mods for banning you in their forums. You have a history of raging, a lot.

http://i.imgur.com/nwXbdNl.png

apio

01-31-2015, 07:31 AM

Haha thanks for posting this. I had lost that PM.

PS: I still hope the whiny Destiny crew never gets their characters restored, still think that whining on a public forum by half of the guild to get special treatment over established peq players was bad form, especially after the peq people welcomed us with open arms and decked everyone and their alts out with free gear, still think the lack of leadership in that guild (al kabor on peq) ultimately led to its downfall, still think that banning a character because of the name Buycurious and deleting all my plat was way over the top, and I still think it is pretty funny that I was deguilded one day after I quit playing on that server :) Oh and layonhands is still a jackass ;)

Byrjun

01-31-2015, 11:01 AM

Forming a raid guild on TAK, PM me if you want to slay dragons on a fresh server. Will help you get set up, leveled up, and geared up to the best of my ability. You can 3 box and the exp is faster than P99.

Wharhog

01-31-2015, 11:03 AM

As long as you give him all the loot, and can stand him in vent for longer than 3 seconds you may be just the person he is looking for.

Bleepo

01-31-2015, 11:38 AM

News Update:

- After a mass exodus of players who no longer want to be associated with them, Destiny is now severely weakened and this will probably push back the release of Vox and Naggy by a month. But who knows, they might be able to find another exp exploit very soon, and that would put us right back on track for a mid march release (that's when they are estimated to hit 45+).

What the guild now needs most is a knight in shining armor. Maybe Layonhands will return from his layoff and set things right. After all, finding exploits has always been one of his favorite things to do, and at this rate they will need some level 1 training their competition to see any kind of raid mob. Applications are being accepted at

http://destiny.guildportal.com

- I wanted to take a moment to toot my own horn, and point out that the server went down 10 minutes after my last post, to fix the last Experience Exploit. I will continue to be this server's beacon of hope in these testing times (pun intended)

- In other news, Developers have finally commented on the overabundance of Database errors, it is not a top priority at this moment, so get ready for some exciting neckbeard camping - if you ever want to see a rare drop off of a rare mob you better be ready to call in sick and get your socks ready

Some exciting statistics for all the people looking to start on this server:

45+ Rathyl Reincarnates for 1 Hollowed Bone Bracers
25+ froglok crusaders and 0 Mithril Runed Tunics
3+ days of camping 3 Frenzy Spawns and 4 Moonstone Rings
20+ ghoul lords for 0 Shortswords of the Ykesha
2+ days of camping Cloaked Dhampyre for 0 Hooded Black Cloaks
(all these numbers have been linked in alliance chat, I am pretty sure there are plenty more examples so feel free to add your personal favorite to this list)

As always thanks for reading, I will keep you up to date with the latest developments
Bleepo

apio

01-31-2015, 11:48 AM

lol

Tuffpuppy

01-31-2015, 11:49 AM

News Update:

- In other news, Developers have finally commented on the overabundance of Database errors, it is not a top priority at this moment, so get ready for some exciting neckbeard camping - if you ever want to see a rare drop off of a rare mob you better be ready to call in sick and get your socks ready

Some exciting statistics for all the people looking to start on this server:

45+ Rathyl Reincarnates for 1 Hollowed Bone Bracers
25+ froglok crusaders and 0 Mithril Runed Tunics
3+ days of camping 3 Frenzy Spawns and 4 Moonstone Rings
20+ ghoul lords for 0 Shortswords of the Ykesha
2+ days of camping Cloaked Dhampyre for 0 Hooded Black Cloaks
(all these numbers have been linked in alliance chat, I am pretty sure there are plenty more examples so feel free to add your personal favorite to this list)

As always thanks for reading, I will keep you up to date with the latest developments
Bleepo

It's...in....beta...

Byrjun

01-31-2015, 11:55 AM

How'd you get 4 Moonstone Rings from 3 Frenzieds? Exploiter!

radditsu

01-31-2015, 12:32 PM

That is the same loot issues kpemu had. epics were torturous. what peq database release was this project built off of? I havent found a right drop rate on a box since the magelo import.

pharmakos

01-31-2015, 01:43 PM

apio

01-31-2015, 01:51 PM

Paleman

01-31-2015, 04:16 PM

Faywind

01-31-2015, 07:13 PM

I wouldnt bother trying this yet. The game is full of bugs and population is worse than RED. You've been warned...

It is very unpolished at this point in time but has potential.

Tuffpuppy

01-31-2015, 07:29 PM

really want to play this but its giving me alot of problems.

I cant log into the game most times. It usually just shows the loading screen after char select until I close out of it or it just closes itself.

when zoning, it just freezes.

anyone know where I can find some info for these specific problems?

As far as I know these are known problems that many people are having, including myself. It used to be worse then it is right now.

And with the new change they made where there is a wait period to log in a character again, it's pretty much a joke and I've stopped even bothering to log in anymore.

pharmakos

01-31-2015, 07:30 PM

I wouldnt bother trying this yet. The game is full of bugs and population is worse than RED. You've been warned...

It is very unpolished at this point in time but has potential.

the more people that beta test, the quicker the server will be polished.

population definitely isn't worse than red. a bit better than blue but with more prominent high end raging neckbeards.

that vocal neckbeard minority aside the average person on TAKP is pretty awesome.

Swish

01-31-2015, 07:35 PM

I'll have to take another peek at their forums.

Paleman

01-31-2015, 07:39 PM

kind of hard to beta test or do anything when you cant zone, can only log in 1 out of 5 trys, and have an ungodly ping in game

I like alot of things on the server like visibility and lack of 3rd person, but if I cant fix this I am gonna just wait till later.

If anyone is willing to try to help me that knows please PM me. I might have some out of date files but its hard to tell because of how they are being distributed...

Ive tried every proposed solution on the tak site.

also how are people already 50 and selling all this shit on such a laggy server? lol yall are crazy

Pokesan

01-31-2015, 07:42 PM

I'll have to take another peek at their forums.

mentioned in this thread yet?

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=2391

dude is dead serious

Paleman

01-31-2015, 07:52 PM

also wtf is with level 1 mobs being hard as shit to kill? that coupled with crashing while zoning = fuck this noise.

sorry, I tried. This all sounds promising but yall need to work out some shit and put some better guides up on how to fix issues.

radditsu

01-31-2015, 08:11 PM

they're treating the drop rate issue as a code problem rather than a database problem. for some reason putting in [commondrop]=75 [raredrop]=25 or w/e in the database doesn't actually make things 75/25. makes it more like 90/10 for some reason. so in an effort to preserve database labor they are keeping the 75/25 value in the DB until they can figure out how to fix the server code.

This is exactly what kpemu had issues with. They woild say it would change it but it never worked. One insufferable asshole on the box killed an epic mob over 100 times for the mage in bw. Even when you added extra drop chances at 100% like they tested in vex thal it wouldn't drop right.

Still waiting for a good cheal macro guys. The one i have is teh suk

nagmarr

01-31-2015, 09:43 PM

I definitely died allot in level's 1-3 killing rats and what not. But it was fun, quit whining and hang in there, it gets better.

Lots of fiddling around has gotten my disconnecting issues all but resolved. Read the forums people, chances are it's been covered and someone has had your issues. Don't be lazy, look for an answer. If you can't find it there are plenty of people on TAKP forums who are willing to help. SERVER IS NEW - BE PATIENT, HAB FUN!< durrr

Boxing 3 chars is fun, if you don't like it play 1, if you don't like it play 2, if you don't like it play p99 or live, it doesn't throw things WAY out of balance, it can be very challenging, unless you're cheating in someway, in which case - you are lame. Give it a try. Or find your own cup of tea.

This server's drama is being blown out of proportion, and often, and at most times based on nothing more than speculation/hatorade

Yeah it's a new server, yeah it has some bugs.. BUT things have gotten allot better since it opened (1 month ago) The dev team works hard, updates constantly, and does it for nothing. I am grateful for the server and the work. So why complain so much?
Al'kabor got shut down, and 5 mins playing here felt so much better than the 9 months i spent on p99. The raiding is a joke on p99, and the raiding is currently a joke on TAKP as there is hardly any. But the people are what make TAKP superior, in my opinion. No disrespect to p99 and their awesome staff and server.

My only current gripes with TAKP are..
What is classic EQ without Dragons?
That should be a top priority to be fixed immediately. No Dragons = No Fun. Also the drop rate's of lower guk items, is ridiculous. Those things are important, especially when there are very few high level zones in this current expansion era. Whoever said the GM's are over policing the server do kinda have a point, it does feel like that at times. Some of the server MOTD's are a little awkward and ?????uhhh????? to the casual player. I would say if there is one area where the Server is lacking it would be in the public relationship department. But when you post MOTD's like that, and make posts on the forums calling out certain people who are "picking" on the server, it seems like you are buying in to the drama, and overly concerned with that, rather than making the server the best it can be. With that said, the forums/server is very nice otherwise, and i'm sure the previously mentioned issues with loot and dragons will be fixed in a matter of time. I've personally had nothing but pleasant 1 on 1's in regards to my GM encounters here, just going off of what i've seen otherwise.

If there's favoritism, i haven't noticed it THAT much, but some things don't add up. It is frustrating though, at times, to be playing in a buggy classic server, with no dragons and messed up loot tables. And to top it off - some people have Guise of the deceivers and custom titles, but they don't drop, and you cant request one (it's against the server rules) - and to be expected to report bugs without any incentive, or even an official response is meh. So what you get is whining, and a feeling of confusion and unfair treatment. - If EVERYONE had the opportunity to receive such treatment with a unique item like that, then something like that might bring the server together contributing, instead of leaving people left out and feeling disconnected. -- LIVE did it with Veteran rewards, and of course those who played when EQ first came out, had access to those pre-nerfed items. There's nothing like that here. They don't drop.

The GM's/Devs have an opportunity here to be something special, and really have a great server and a tight community rather than a bunch of mice in a Norrath maze that you get to poke with a stick. Please consider that going forward.

--

The people on this server (especially the Al'kabor people) are a very nice, fun, and helpful community of players, and many have known each other for years. There are allot of casuals running around doing their thing. It's easy to cast stones at p99 for still being in kunark, and poopsock lameness, It's easy to cast stones at PEQ for being THE lame, it's easy to cast stones at TAKP for being buggy or boxing etc etc etc..

There's no perfect world, life isn't fair. Give 'em all a try and find what you like. Looking back on all of this it seems like there are few people that work hard for the masses, and allot of people that are ungrateful miserable whiners. I suppose i'll try not to be so much of a whiner moving forward, and continue to be legit dude that has fun playing EQ w/o the drama.

<3 this game <3 you, bye.
Oiwon

apio

02-01-2015, 08:31 AM

It has been very hard since Alpha is over. Back in alpha it all felt like a team effort, but now it just seems like developers and players are opponents in a silly game of snakes and ladders. The server GMs like to rule by fear and have antagonized the player base from the minute Beta started.

I just keep telling myself it is a team effort and hope I get unbanned/unsuspended soon, because I would really like to post some bugs I have found and keep contributing to the project. I don't really care too much about my personal character development or this server in particular, it is about making the code and the DB better so that 1 day in the distant future we will have a viable alternative to P99. Silly players and silly GMs (you know who I am talking about) likely will not survive very long in this environment

It just makes them look bad when they suspend/ban their top supporter/contributor because he ranted on the Rants and Flames forum. If you don't want to have people ranting and flaming and/or do not have the thick skin you need, stay the fuck out of RNF or get rid of Rants and Flames forum altogether. Right now it just seems like a trap to get rid of people that don't share your philosophy. FUNNY enough I was the one who was very vocal about this server not needing a RNF forum in the first place, I would link you the thread but due to being banned I don't have access.

This whole issue is so ridiculous, that the people who banned me are keeping it on the down low and didn't even say anything on the forum. They made it look like they replied in a calm manner to my inflammatory response and then proceeded to boot me without so much as a hint. If you have to hide your disciplinary actions there is obviously something wrong, it is weak and unprofessional.

Haynar

02-01-2015, 12:28 PM

It looks pretty clear they have zero tolerance for staff bashing. Shocked much? They have become a little more tolerant here at p99.

Anothe thing I have noticed, is they don't want p99 people preaching at them about doing things like on p99.

They are not about building numbers up asap. They want to fix bugs. Fix quests. And work on having a high quality tak experience.

The exp changes were unpopular. There will be many more things that will be too. So what. Running a server is not easy. Coding on servers is not easy. Dealing with whiney, self entitled players just sucks.

Are you important to the takp? Not if you are ticking off and frustrating the devs and gms.

H

pharmakos

02-01-2015, 02:17 PM

iance, i think you just got burnt out, man. you put a whole lot of time and energy into this thing. it caught up with you, and you flipped your lid for a bit. i saw the whole thing go down on the forums as it was happening.

i think if you just chill out for awhile, take a break, and stop ranting about TAKP over here now.... then the GMs might lift your ban. might not, idk, i'm not on the staff over there, but i do know they're never going to lift your ban unless you calm down a bit. this is just a game, man, no need to get so emotionally invested in it.

Haynar

02-01-2015, 02:38 PM

If you have to hide your disciplinary actions there is obviously something wrong, it is weak and unprofessional.
We hide disciplinary actions. Public debate of them goes nowhere good.

We ban without warning.

We ban when rules are broken.

We watch other message boards too, and know what people are saying. We have not said we would ban on such things, but they have. So that means flame them all you want over here on p99, but don't be upset when you get banned over there.

They have better tying together of message board logins, to game accounts. +1 takp. And a ban on the boards over there, will likely mean in game too. We don't do that so much.

H

Speedling

02-01-2015, 02:49 PM

Apio has a history of being a ticking bomb. If things aren't going his way, he'll feel entitled to bitch and whine to the public.

Just ignore him and move along.

Erasong

02-01-2015, 03:24 PM

I thought everyone actually was entitled to bitch to the public.

Haynar

02-01-2015, 04:07 PM

I thought everyone actually was entitled to bitch to the public.
You are entitled to. That does not mean there will be no consequences. Can only rustle so many jimmies, before someone gets bent.

H

Byrjun

02-01-2015, 04:33 PM

As long as you give him all the loot, and can stand him in vent for longer than 3 seconds you may be just the person he is looking for.

You know Wharhog, I've actually been doing you a huge favor by not discussing any of the Armed & Hammered stuff publicly. I'm not sure how you expect to succeed as a guild when people find out it's being run by someone who has some pretty obvious issues dealing with other people, but since you chose to bring drama over here then I guess I'll respond.

As long as you give him all the loot

I'm really curious where this one is coming from. Literally the only item I've looted on a raid was the crappy shaman stick from Phinny, which I was told to loot. Maybe you're confusing me with Innovation, the other warrior who left your guild after you informed him that all warrior loot would be going to your shared box. In fact, I gave you two BIS bracers for your necro the night before you randomly guild removed me without saying a word to me. I constantly gave to the guild and there were zero loot issues so I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.

Maybe it's related to that argument I had with you about attending FGs... you know, that argument that you told everyone else about to justify you guild removing me but never actually took place?

The fact that you're even bringing up loot as a point of contention when there are no raid mobs in the game yet shows where your mind is.

and can stand him in vent for longer than 3 seconds

Again, it's funny that you say this when over half of your guild has talked to me since this and have expressed that they wish I was still in the guild.

Anyways, there's a reason that I never tried to contact you after I was guild removed, even though it was seemingly random. A guild that's ran by someone who's apparently having issues with his own insecurities can't succeed. I'm actually curious to see how quickly your guild will hemorrhage members as they obtain loot you want or you decide you don't like the sound of their voice or whatever random stuff ends up setting you off.

It's apparent that Armed & Hammered won't have success being ran in such a way, which is unfortunate since there's a lot of good people in that guild. But that's why I'm forming my own raid guild which will provide a much more stable atmosphere for members interested in killing dragons and having fun, and disinterested in high school drama.

Pokesan

02-01-2015, 05:06 PM

It looks pretty clear they have zero tolerance for staff bashing. Shocked much?

Yes but disagreeing with the staff is not the same as bashing the staff.

I think their intentions are genuinely good but the same is true for Apio. Something something passionate.

Give it a couple months and this server can be awesome.

Furst

02-01-2015, 06:40 PM

You know Wharhog, I've actually been doing you a huge favor by not discussing any of the Armed & Hammered stuff publicly. I'm not sure how you expect to succeed as a guild when people find out it's being run by someone who has some pretty obvious issues dealing with other people, but since you chose to bring drama over here then I guess I'll respond.

I'm really curious where this one is coming from. Literally the only item I've looted on a raid was the crappy shaman stick from Phinny, which I was told to loot. Maybe you're confusing me with Innovation, the other warrior who left your guild after you informed him that all warrior loot would be going to your shared box. In fact, I gave you two BIS bracers for your necro the night before you randomly guild removed me without saying a word to me. I constantly gave to the guild and there were zero loot issues so I'm curious how you came to this conclusion.

Maybe it's related to that argument I had with you about attending FGs... you know, that argument that you told everyone else about to justify you guild removing me but never actually took place?

The fact that you're even bringing up loot as a point of contention when there are no raid mobs in the game yet shows where your mind is.

Again, it's funny that you say this when over half of your guild has talked to me since this and have expressed that they wish I was still in the guild.

Anyways, there's a reason that I never tried to contact you after I was guild removed, even though it was seemingly random. A guild that's ran by someone who's apparently having issues with his own insecurities can't succeed. I'm actually curious to see how quickly your guild will hemorrhage members as they obtain loot you want or you decide you don't like the sound of their voice or whatever random stuff ends up setting you off.

It's apparent that Armed & Hammered won't have success being ran in such a way, which is unfortunate since there's a lot of good people in that guild. But that's why I'm forming my own raid guild which will provide a much more stable atmosphere for members interested in killing dragons and having fun, and disinterested in high school drama.

you are right lets not air dirty laundry /edit

Personally I didnt want to see a good player leave, but you brought it on yourself. I would have let you back in no questions asked, but you didnt seem like you wanted back in.

Wharhog

02-01-2015, 06:52 PM

I won't bother to post logs of your psychotic rants to my guildmates, but realize we have them. There was a reason none left for your visions of grandeur. You may be better served to stay right here in your element, and flourish in IB.

Torven

02-01-2015, 07:45 PM

there are plenty of drops in the database right now that deviate from the 75/25 rule and have weird values in the DB due to straight magelo imports without normalization. The FBSS until recently had a drop rate of under 20%, to name a prominent example

This isn't quite accurate. It was 20% in the database, not less-- but due to the logic error in the loot drop function, it was dropping less than 20%, like almost everything else. I just bumped that up to 25% a couple days ago after reviewing the magelo data.

The effective drop rates for a 75/25 item are about 19.2%/80.8% currently. Code to fix this problem is currently being tested.

Also I had absolutely nothing to do with your forum suspension. I had no idea it happened until now.

The loot drop logic error is one of many bugs that are not unique to our server-- we forked eqemu like every other server did, and we got their bugs along with it. TAKP is fully open however, so our fixes are often going back to eqemu.

Low level mobs hitting so hard is the result of the melee damage mitigation algorithms being inaccurate. (also from eqemu) NPC attack delays and max hits are very close to Al'Kabor's, if not precise in the majority of cases. At higher AC values, the opposite problem is likely happening: mitigation is too high.

We're aware of these issues. We can't just fix them overnight. I'm literally working on this server all day every day.

apio

02-01-2015, 07:48 PM

Byrjun

02-01-2015, 08:08 PM

you are right lets not air dirty laundry /edit

Personally I didnt want to see a good player leave, but you brought it on yourself. I would have let you back in no questions asked, but you didnt seem like you wanted back in.

I'm not sure how I brought it on myself. I was guild removed at random with absolutely no communication. I waited a day or two for said communication and when I didn't receive any I pursued my next best option. I still haven't received any sort of reason for the guild removal besides second hand information that Wharhogg was ranting about me refusing to do FGs or some other made up crap. What was I supposed to do?

Everyone said they didn't want to see me leave, besides Wharhogg. Funny how that guy has absolute unchecked power and doesn't even need an explanation for his actions. And from what I've heard, this isn't even close to the first time that he's done stuff like this.

Wharhogg - I haven't taken part in any "psychotic rants," am I supposed to take you having logs as a threat? You'd be surprised to learn that I actually don't talk about you much, and about the only thing I've said to someone was that I could consider rejoining A&H if you apologized and stepped down to being a regular member. That is indeed a pretty psychotic rant, so you better backup those logs. Although I'm not sure what value said logs would have, given that you've lost any and all credibility given all the other blatantly false allegations you tried to put on me.

Anyways, what I do know is that this server is super young and doesn't even have raid content yet. People want loot, so they're going to naturally gravitate towards the biggest guild which is currently Armed & Hammered. I'm not going to create a guild today and be top tier competitive tomorrow, but I have played this game enough to see into the future a bit. We'll see what happens when there is an option between sanity and well, you.

apio

02-01-2015, 08:21 PM

I like you Reiker but you are going way overboard here. Plus I am pretty sure I never said "I didn't want to see you leave" because you didn't leave but got kicked, and that's between you and wharhogg, but no matter what - I find it pretty sad that you have to come here and make a big drama out of this. Anyways, I wish you good luck with your guild !

pharmakos

02-01-2015, 08:24 PM

I find it pretty sad that you have to come here and make a big drama out of this.

you've calmed down a bit since this morning, i see.

Byrjun

02-01-2015, 08:32 PM

I'll be honest, I am a bit frustrated because I had made a lot of friends in A&H and those connections were severed by the actions of one person. I like you Apio, and Elaida and Furst and everyone else.

Anyways, it kinda struck a nerve when he specifically came here to slander me, so I wanted to get my side and the truth out.

That'll be the last I say on any of that, back to me complaining about the drop rate bug. :p

Furst

02-01-2015, 08:39 PM

:( i didnt get recruited to the new guild

apio

02-02-2015, 04:46 AM

you've calmed down a bit since this morning, i see.

what's the matter, nobody wants to play with you?

pharmakos

02-02-2015, 04:51 AM

that was unnecessarily catty of me i will admit, my apologies.

Torven

02-02-2015, 04:59 AM

it was actually less than 20% in the database,the allaclone used to show the drop rate in alpha.

Anyhow that was just an example. there are cases that involve quest items that have far crazier numbers

Before I set it to 80/20, it was 66/16. But it was always min drop 1, drop limit 1, which means the actual drop rate was higher than 16%. I was actually lowering the effective drop rate when I set it to 80/20. I eyeballed it and got it wrong the first time. 16 divided by 66 = 0.2424.

The %s don't always mean that the items will drop at that rate. Plenty of tables do not add up to 100% or add up to well over 100% Allaclone doesn't calculate the correct effective drop rates after factoring in mindrop and droplimit being nonzero.

This project has all of two people who do database work, and both of us also do some code work, and I do a lot of data collecting/parsing of game mechanics on Live. Not only that but I joined the team later on-- Rob was alone for a long time. There simply wasn't the manhours to go through every single quest and adjust every single NPC's drop rate. So I'm sorry for launching too early I guess. I had no say in that.