The Al'Kabor Project (PC/Mac) EQmac - EverQuest done right

[apio]

I am crap at coding but I am kind of a nerd when it gets to scanning through DBs and finding errors, if you ever need any help with the DB let me know. It is just very tiresome to go through it 1 by 1, post it all on the boards, then wait for someone to have the time to change it and then re check it.

[jetviper21]

This project has all of two people who do database work, and both of us also do some code work, and I do a lot of data collecting/parsing of game mechanics on Live. Not only that but I joined the team later on-- Rob was alone for a long time. There simply wasn't the manhours to go through every single quest and adjust every single NPC's drop rate. So I'm sorry for launching too early I guess. I had no say in that.

This is one of the problems 2 people are working on the database. When you have at least 3-4 more who are willing to help and have the skills todo so. Yet they are blocked by an invisible wall of unknown.

It gets really discouraging to people who can fix things technically and have to post on a message board. Sure the source code is open source. But the database is far from open source the contributing process is linear and has to go through a bureaucracy.

That is fine if you want to make sure it maintains some sort of correctness. It is unfair to punish players for being passionate when you are holding the keys to their success.

[Torven]

I just yelled in the shower over the stupid fucking retarded and very public mistake I just realized I made. I'm going to have to set the FBSS back to 20% because I made a retarded math error. 16/(66+16) ~ 20%. I do this math god knows how many times and still fucked it up.

I had 3 Live clients running and logging spell resists, with another TAKP client parsing loot drops with the new code, while trying to watch for cheating in GM mode on a fifth client, and I was fixing the resist function so mobs 20 levels above players aren't easily hittable anymore. So yeah, my attention is split a lot. Go ahead and flame.

When you have at least 3-4 more who are willing to help and have the skills todo so. Yet they are blocked by an invisible wall of unknown.

Project 1999 gets this a lot too. It's not so simple.

For one, I've never seen these people you're referring to request to do DB work. How can I block them when I have no idea who they are?

Hanging around in IRC and getting to know us is probably the first step to gaining our trust. I was in there months before they gave me DB access. Also my rather long posts about game mechanics and NPC stats let them know I knew what I was doing.

Secondly, it's not merely a matter of inputting the 'correct' values in the database. Most of these numbers are simply not known and need to be estimated. That means conflicts with other devs on what things should be. If Rob sets numbers on a NPC, I coordinate with him before I fuck with them. We don't always agree on the numbers. So it's not just a matter of adding more people and getting more done. Now consider that the emu community is known for having some unstable people, so just adding people on a whim is problematic. Trust takes time.

It's also silly to assume that the 'outsiders' will suddenly show up and turn everything around if they were just let in. As soon as they mess with shit, you'll be bitching at them too.

[Haynar]

Project 1999 gets this a lot too. It's not so simple.
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Hanging around in IRC and getting to know us is probably the first step to gaining our trust. I was in there months before they gave me DB access. Also my rather long posts about game mechanics and NPC stats let them know I knew what I was doing.

Secondly, it's not merely a matter of inputting the 'correct' values in the database. Most of these numbers are simply not known and need to be estimated. That means conflicts with other devs on what things should be. If Rob sets numbers on a NPC, I coordinate with him before I fuck with them. We don't always agree on the numbers. So it's not just a matter of adding more people and getting more done. Now consider that the emu community is known for having some unstable people, so just adding people on a whim is problematic. Trust takes time.

It's also silly to assume that the 'outsiders' will suddenly show up and turn everything around if they were just let in. As soon as they mess with shit, you'll be bitching at them too.
On P99 we get plenty of offers to "help".

For someone like me, IRC doesn't work. I use too many diff computers. Most deving is done offline with no internet. The one computer i could get on full time, I may only see once a week. I would suggest using chat channels in skype over irc. You will never miss anything. No matter what device you get on.

Feel free to stay in the 90's on IRC. :) I was running/deving IRC servers and services back in 97. Kind of hate IRC now.

There are a lot of unstable people out there.

Haynar

[Bruno]

We never automated ch chains, nice try tho.

So that's how rellapse kept me alive in between chain yelling the n word and sips of bud :). Good times.

[Amplitude]

Rellapse once boxed 6 clerics alt tabbing his own ch rotation

hands down best cleric i have ever witnessed

[Amplitude]

also while probably drunk and yelling at everyone else to play better while singing waylon jennings in TS

get on his lvl

[Paleman]

finally got it working. gonna get my 3 toons to 5 this weekend so I can start dominating orc hill

[11bangbang]

wtf is the anser to the question "what game is this" ive tried everquest, ever quest, project 1999, alkabor, al'kabor, the alkabor project, the al'kabor project. none of them work and im locked out now.

[Paleman]

yeah but have you tried al's kabobs?

[radditsu]

wtf is the anser to the question "what game is this" ive tried everquest, ever quest, project 1999, alkabor, al'kabor, the alkabor project, the al'kabor project. none of them work and im locked out now.

Its the most dangerous game.

[Daldaen]

EverQuest.

Capitalization matters.

[Sirken]

Its the most dangerous game.

http://i.ndtvimg.com/mt/movies/2012-12/jumanji1.jpg

[drelk001]

http://i.ndtvimg.com/mt/movies/2012-12/jumanji1.jpg

lol... I have just got into this server (LvL 2 Gnome/necro, Dedrath) and I am not really having as much fun as I would with P99, mainly because it is post twink world (at level one you need to have at least 2 people to kill anything in the yards and orc hill is 5 to 10 on P99 its 3 to 7) and the newbie killing grounds are empty

[Byrjun]

The newbie grounds were "empty" during P99's first month too.

Also it's harder on TAKP than P99 because they need to tune damage/AC better, not because the server's designed expecting you to be a twink.

You're comparing a server that's been launched for a month vs. a server that's been launched for 5 and a half years.

[Hailto]

Byrjun when you going to do another blog post? First one was p good.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

lol... I have just got into this server (LvL 2 Gnome/necro, Dedrath) and I am not really having as much fun as I would with P99, mainly because it is post twink world (at level one you need to have at least 2 people to kill anything in the yards and orc hill is 5 to 10 on P99 its 3 to 7) and the newbie killing grounds are empty

Try Halas noobie area, mobs are plentiful and do fair damage.

[drelk001]

Try Halas noobie area, mobs are plentiful and do fair damage.

vengeful lyricist is the bane of my existance :P
I think on TAKproject he isnt KoS

[pharmakos]

you should bug report that

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

vengeful lyricist is the bane of my existance :P
I think on TAKproject he isnt KoS

Lyricist isn't, Soloist is. I do not know why.

[radditsu]

Alkabor was pretty rough in newbie zones.

[Haynar]

Do Kaladim noob area. Mobs fairly easy. Avoid krags, since they go kos quick and will pwn u. Kill skunks a lot. Solo by level 5 u should have close to 50 plat from loots to boot.

H

[drelk001]

Do Kaladim noob area. Mobs fairly easy. Avoid krags, since they go kos quick and will pwn u. Kill skunks a lot. Solo by level 5 u should have close to 50 plat from loots to boot.

H

I have been in qeynos killing skellies

[Jadian]

This server sounds fucking terrible.

Teams 99 plz

[Jadian]

The newbie grounds were "empty" during P99's first month too.

Also it's harder on TAKP than P99 because they need to tune damage/AC better, not because the server's designed expecting you to be a twink.

You're comparing a server that's been launched for a month vs. a server that's been launched for 5 and a half years.

You just did an apples to oranges comparison, and then berated someone else for doing the same thing two sentences later. Impressive.

[Secrets]

This server sounds fucking terrible.

Teams 99 plz

takpvp inc

for when you're truly a masochist about a 16 year old elf sim

[Jadian]

Alright, that one I might be in for. But not if it's that abomination that the GM posted about wanting to make.

I've really just wanted a teams 99 style server from the get go, but that's probably because my time in EQ live was spent entirely on Vallon Zek,from classic to Luclin.

[LittleSorcerer7]

It's Amazing :) great people.

[Jadian]

I believe it, just doesn't seem my style. Was never really into boxing, and never played on Al'Kabor. I'll probably just sit on my hands mostly until a teams server or something new comes out, I can't stand the p99 servers at higher levels anymore.

[Secrets]

Vox raid.

http://puu.sh/fTPP5/c1023f17b1.jpg

http://puu.sh/fTPWf/77dd9cb371.jpg

Spoiler: Vox won.

http://puu.sh/fTPZR/b105a3c079.jpg

[Numb287]

Another spoiler: Vox Fear warps you around the zone pulling everything, have to just let pets kill =/

[Haynar]

Another spoiler: Vox Fear warps you around the zone pulling everything, have to just let pets kill =/

Pretty easy to fix fear on players.

H

[Haynar]

For the takp devs:

When you are fixing fear on players, the client does send packets for when they change to run or walk. So you can track this, and tie the fear speed to what the client has set, walk or run.

H

[Kafter]

What is the servers population like currently- without adding the boxed chars?

[Byrjun]

What is the servers population like currently- without adding the boxed chars?

Maybe 50ish people most of the day?

It's impossible to tell how many real people are playing at any given time but logged in characters is usually around 100-120ish.

[Erasong]

People just started getting banned for expressing opinions. At least the dev/GM team here doesnt ban your characters for being a forum warrior. just your forum accounts.

[Haynar]

People just started getting banned for expressing opinions. At least the dev/GM team here doesnt ban your characters for being a forum warrior. just your forum accounts.
They are facing lots of criticism. So they can get a bit testy. I don't think they are used to that kind of thing. We have learned that it comes with the territory. It is hard to spend 20-30 hrs a week, week after week, trying real hard to put out a quality product. Only to be subject to an endless barage of criticism.

They will start to handle it better. Or their devs will start dropping.

Been there. Done that. Got the t-shirt.

Don't be a dick. Their BS threshold setting is a bit on the low side.

H

[apio]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me

[falendar]

if someone can PM me and tell me how to get this running on a pc would be great.

[nagmarr]

Sent

[morsrex]

If anyone needs help getting this working on a PC, just PM me.

[Paleman]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me


seems pretty easy to get along with them for me. maybe you should learn to criticize and shed light on things in a more positive way? people that run emus do it for free. They dont need to tolerate things and they dont need to be fair or unbiased. That being said the best course of action for anyone playing on one is to not be even slightly douchey.

my pappy always said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

[jetviper21]

seems pretty easy to get along with them for me. maybe you should learn to criticize and shed light on things in a more positive way? people that run emus do it for free. They dont need to tolerate things and they dont need to be fair or unbiased. That being said the best course of action for anyone playing on one is to not be even slightly douchey.

my pappy always said, you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

As someone who was involved early on in this server as in pre-alpha.

Im pretty sure a lot of the GM issues boil down to speedz feels the need to micromanage the entire server. That combined with his mood swings due to his cancer is a toxic combination for anyone in change of player relations.

The other thing is they are making false claims about hacking based on tools that are reporting false positives. right now if you assist someone that is out of range it will target them and flag you as using macro quests unlimited targeting but, instead of realizing that this is broken they go around threatening pet classes for having macros with "/assist <tank>; /pet attack".

Speedz has effectively created a culture of fear no one wants to confront him because he loves to swing that ban hammer if you do not agree with him. At the same time the devs will swing the rhetoric of go create your own server while toting that they want to preserve Al'kabor. Where in they have pretty much done the opposite if Al'Kabor was to be recreated it's true form GM intervention would be very minimal. At times i get the feeling like speedz is trying to sell himself to the community as king shit but, all he really does is break things and make up weird rules.

The only problem I have had with this server is that its come down to the players vs the GM's on every little decision. There is only an illusion of a community its really people being forced to play here because no one actually wants to run a server except those that are mentally unstable.

[erog84]

There are really only 6 people involved in the project.

Cavedude, who is also working on PEQTGC, and splits his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but coding (does an awesome job)
Robregen, who is also working on PEQTGC, and split his time between the 2 servers, does not get involved in anything but the DB (does an awesome job)
Secrets, who is also working on x other projects and split his time between all those, does not get involved in anything but coding, sometimes does some GMing(does an awesome job)
Torven, who has been doing most of the work since the project went beta DB wise, does not get involved in anything but DB and Parsing (does an awesome job)

Atri, who has been doing a bit of work on the webpage and account creation page, takes every bug report as a personal criticism, deletes posts from the forums, and got into fights with people on the forums in alpha. Has been invisible since beta launched.

Speedz, his only purpose since Beta launched has been creating a toxic playing environment. You are very welcome to proof me wrong and quote any other work he has done since beta started. He is also the only GM in charge of the community. There are 2 other GMs (Tiny and Zawayne), one of whom is never around while the other has been observed single pulling mobs on his GM character for his regular characters. This has also been reported to Speedz but apparently there were no consequences.

I know this project is going to keep developing on the technical side, there are some very bright and promising people working on it. On the people side of things however, things are looking very bleak. I am having a hard time motivating myself to "fight" my injust ban when all I have to look forward to is more of the same in the future. The guy cant even post a Poll Thread without looking completely biased, shooting down valid points and calling them "off topic" when they don't fit his narrative.

It is basically one person being in charge of everything that doesn't involve Code, and that's bad news for everyone, not just me

This x100.

[Erasong]

more people banned last night for bs that the gm's dont wanna lose face about. play here at your own risk. its like epicemu sleeper all over again.

[morsrex]

Speedz has been nothing but helpful and patient in all my encounters with him.

[nagmarr]

i haven't had any problems, seems like people are out to sabotage.. wonder why? If you don't like it don't play there.

[Paleman]

i haven't had any problems, seems like people are out to sabotage.. wonder why? If you don't like it don't play there.

pretty much what it seems like to me.

[Paleman]

save face for what? I find it hard to believe they are banning people for no reason.

[Furst]

5 people got banned because someone logged on their account. That someone got banned because the people who run the server farm gave the tak admins an ultimatum that they had to ban him or lose their server.

[Pokesan]

calm down the hate train.

we need them to polish the code/DB for awhile yet until a new server with sane staff comes around

[Dman]

LF pm on how to setup on pc please :)

[pharmakos]

more people banned last night for bs that the gm's dont wanna lose face about. play here at your own risk. its like epicemu sleeper all over again.

definitely isn't as bad as the sleeper.

from one of their in-game GMs:

Statistics:
Baned users since January - 5

1nd ban: Zamiel - Automated Scripting (warning); AFK automated scripting, Boxing more then 3 characters -using automated scripting (Banned)
2rd ban: mandelor93 - Excessive swearing at GM's (was before my time; never tried to appeal the ban with non-vulgar attitude) (Banned)
3th ban: Deface - Multiple forums accounts; excessive swearing at GM's (I attempted to help this guy but he refused my assistance) (Banned)
4th ban: Iance - Consistent Harassment, creating community division, vulgar language in PM/Tells - Detailed in other thread (this is under review)
5th ban: Eashan - Administrative Ban (Due to threats issued to a host server- global host ban); multiple forum accounts.

I will post a report later detailing the 4th and 5th bans. I need to get additional permissions to share evidence.

It takes a lot to get banned permanently here. most will get a warning first and a chance to redeem themselves. aside from number 5 we have had free reign to temporarily suspend the member in one form or the other.

now, it seems like multiple people may have gotten caught up in that #5 ban, and the GMs mistakenly thought all those accounts were the same person. if that is true, i hope it gets cleared up. but yeah, only 5-7 bans so far, in a month and a half. so, definitely better GMing than The Sleeper. by this point in The Sleeper timeline Kegz had already banned like a dozen or more people, given a couple people the in-game title of "The Whiner," deleted a ton of Lodizal loot over a minor database error that HE made, and edited or deleted probably like a hundred forum posts that made him look bad. supposedly the TAKP forum crew have deleted a a handful of posts for similar reasons, but it is nowhere near the mass fascism campaign Kegz was running. there's at least a dozen threads on the TAKP forums right now that would have gotten a dozen or more players banned in-game on The Sleeper.

so, yeah, shit is a little wonky over at TAKP right now, but nothing surprising for a server that is in its infancy. comparing TAKP to The Sleeper is definitely unfounded.

[Bleepo]

nothing new here

[apio]

Well I can only speak for my own ban, but most of what Speedz and Zarwayne have posted isn't rooted in reality. According to them I

"consistently harassed" the staff (my last PM to Speedz was on the 12th of January, telling him that I would stop posting bug reports, and I haven't talked to anyone on the staff directly since, not in PM and not in tells)
"created community division" (by simply voicing my opinion on the TAK forum and over here)
"used vulgar language in PM/tells" (which is completely fabricated)

The details can be found here: http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2613

Just going to quote 1 of the gems from that post here

But it seems like this is a special case as the person in question got somewhat of what I was expecting he was going after.
Which was community backing or partial backing of his attitude towards the staff and me specifically through social engineering and mental manipulation.

really, dude? It is called having an opinion and standing up for it. I am sorry that this doesn't fit into the Nazi scheme you have running over on the TAK boards.

Anyhow, I have tried appealing my ban but was ultimately shot down without any good reason. For all the bad things I have done there sure isn't a lot of evidence about it floating around. Not one single quote or log or screen shot of me "constantly harassing the staff in PM and tells". If it is all so clear cut, why hide it?


About the other bans:

Zamiel, deserved it. He may not have been boxing 6, and a RL friend of his got caught up in the banning, but AFAIK Zamiel was indeed automating the 3 accounts he truly was playing.

Mandalore basically got banned for posting his opinion on the forums. The posts in question are all contained in this thread http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2168&p=11179

Deface I can not comment on, nobody even knew about that ban until Zarwayne mentioned him

Iance we just talked about

Eashan got banned for prior beef with Rogaine, his RL friend Grimskull got banned (guilty by association), and 2 or 3 other people were banned for having Eashan log on 1 of their accounts, Xzerion being one of them. Good news is if you beg you might just get back your account.

As a closing point. I think the comparison with the Sleeper is quite justified. Both servers are run by bipolar psychopaths, on both boxes the truth does not matter, and both servers have a good following of asskissers to keep the person in charge secured into their delusion

Robregen, Cavedude, Torven and Secrets, keep doing the awesome work you are doing and thanks for everything ! :) I am moving on to greener pastures, but I wish everyone who still plays there "Happy Hunting" and I truly hope you don't find yourself on the opposite side of an argument with anyone in charge over there, ever!

[Byrjun]

Apio can I have your PKT?

[apio]

I wish I could give away all my stuff, I would ! :)

[Paleman]

looking at the people you stated were banned, you (iance) and mandalore got banned for being rude, and dickish.

there is a way to offer constructive criticism without coming across as a rude person.

you also seem way addicted to this game, go outside, or read a book and come back to realizing how this is just a game, you have nearly 2k posts over 4 months dude. You might be working on complaining about takproject more than the developers are putting time into it.

[Paleman]

mandalore was definitely a fucking troll. Guy tells people he gets bored of eq by the time he is level 20, but has enough knowledge to chime in about 1 guild having the biggest roster to take out raid targets.

you guys need to step off da coco

[apio]

there is a way to offer constructive criticism without coming across as a rude person.


It is called bug reporting. I should know, more than 80% of all my posts on that forum are bug reports :)

try again bro

[Paleman]

It is called bug reporting. I should know, more than 80% of all my posts on that forum are bug reports :)

try again bro

ok, just because whatever percentage of your posts is bug reporting, doesnt mean that the other percentage where you are offering your opinions and criticisms need to be offered in a rude manner. The principle of not being an asshole still stands, they didnt beg you to post your bug reports, and judging from your ban it seems they didnt even need you to do it.

[Wharhog]

Paleman you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, so you mas well stop while you aren't too far behind.

The database is as complete as it is because of Lance going zone by zone and posting on every single missing named. There were literally hundreds of reports that allowed the server to launch sooner.

[apio]

ok, just because whatever percentage of your posts is bug reporting, doesnt mean that the other percentage where you are offering your opinions and criticisms need to be offered in a rude manner. The principle of not being an asshole still stands, they didnt beg you to post your bug reports, and judging from your ban it seems they didnt even need you to do it.

I think you are missing my point, so I am going to give you a few hours to let it sink in :)

[Paleman]

oh so the fact that you did nice things means you can be an asshole after? Enlighten me on what I am missing that allows you to be a rude motherfucker in a place where no one wants you to be one? The fact still stands that you were banned for doing just that. You over addicted motherfuckers are a dime a dozen and you really cant just take a step back when you get too passionate over something that is actually meaningless. Learn how to exercise tact dude.

[Haynar]

I am 16 on the server now. Had zero bad interactions with GMs in game. Only ever seen them in PoK.

Fun server so far. If you are into drama, there is plenty to be found. You might end up banned, so avoid it.

H

[Erasong]

oh so the fact that you did nice things means you can be an asshole after? Enlighten me on what I am missing that allows you to be a rude motherfucker in a place where no one wants you to be one? The fact still stands that you were banned for doing just that. You over addicted motherfuckers are a dime a dozen and you really cant just take a step back when you get too passionate over something that is actually meaningless. Learn how to exercise tact dude.

Enlighten me as to how addiction and douchery or being rude are somehow the same thing? you seem to draw a link from one to the other.

You really seem like you have an axe to grind vs people who play more then you.

[Paleman]

Enlighten me as to how addiction and douchery or being rude are somehow the same thing? you seem to draw a link from one to the other.

You really seem like you have an axe to grind vs people who play more then you.

the more time you invest in something the more you feel over the things that frustrate you within that subject. because of those feelings they are brought to the surface. I dont think they are the same thing but one leads to the other. So yes they are linked. A drug addict tends to reflect on frustrations in his life and projects them through his addictive behavior. Another thing that a person who is addicted to something does is rationalize their behavior or something that they are frustrated about, even if it is wrong, or against the rules within whatever they are involved. You have to be conscious of both, your feelings on the subject and what is required to achieve something that is closer to how you want things to be. Any negativity in between that is not necessary, even if people are being negative towards you.

I dont have any beef with people who play alot, just loudmouth people who cant figure out the right way to get their way peacefully.

[Erasong]

Fair enough.

[Pokesan]

Paleman you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, so you mas well stop while you aren't too far behind.

The database is as complete as it is because of Lance going zone by zone and posting on every single missing named. There were literally hundreds of reports that allowed the server to launch sooner.

[nagmarr]

Nothing personal against those that were banned, but if u just play here to play here because u enjoy playing EQ - U wont have a problem. The only issue i've seen is people that have personal differences with some of the server Gm's. Well guess what? You can't have everything. The server has been live for a month and a half. Use the GM's what they are used for, petitions. Use the forum what it's used for, social topics and bug reporting. If you're going to trash the new server or the people that run the server on their own turf, your going to have Problems. If you're going to come to another forum and trash the server fully knowing the TAKP gm's are going to see it, you're going to have problems. If you're going to exploit the server's rules and you get caught, you're going to have problems. 5 Bans in a month and a half? Meh. Apio i like you bro but you're not making things easy for yourself as long as it's you against the server, that's for sure. It's been well documented that you and Speedz don't like eachother. That's a problem isn't it, because he is the lead administrator for the server. If it seems like i'm defending the server it's because i play here. I just play, be social, observe, and bug report if i can to help out. Because i like this server. If i felt i was banned unjustly i would appeal it, not further trash the server. But if u really don't care by all means, continue doing what probably got you banned in the first place.

Oiwon

[nagmarr]

The database is as complete as it is because of Lance going zone by zone and posting on every single missing named. There were literally hundreds of reports that allowed the server to launch sooner.

Thanks Apio!!!

wish u could #playnice ;)

[Byrjun]

you guys need to step off da coco

But I'm in love with da coco.

<Divine Right> recruiting to slay dragons and have fun.

[Furst]

these are the GMs that called wall peaking rampant exploiting.

To many of us its not worth playing there anymore. Everyone has their own opinions and are entitled to it.

On a seperate note how the hell is my account from 2010. I am a loser with no life, haha

[Furst]

welp I have been banned now, guess what you post here or rerolled will get you banned on their server.

[Haynar]

welp I have been banned now, guess what you post here or rerolled will get you banned on their server.

Its been said over and over. Bash them, even on other boards will result in a ban.

Duh

[Furst]

I got banned for mentioning its not worth playing there anymore. Then Torven asked me why. I explained why, and I guess that is worth banning.

[Furst]

Oh I am being told its for RMT, rumors are flying, I was selling my gear in auction guess that means I was rmt'ing it

/edit: worst part of it all is anyone I logged on got banned as well

[Erasong]

Kind of ridiculous for posts outside of their domain of control. That is a perfect example of "question us or our methods and youre gone." I get it. Its their box. appreciate what they have done so far. I do and I really do get that but people have a right to question things or methods. If its done with hostility on something THEY own.. whatever, Its disrespectful. Handle your business however you want. When its done on something unrelated to them and they still proceed that way? I dunno. Id say thats taking it personally and showing you shouldnt be ina position of power in the first place imo.

edited. IF this in fact the reason for his ban. Not that we will ever know.

[Wharhog]

ROFLMAO

[Wharhog]

And now I'm banned

[Erasong]

Welp ive just been banned too. Dont think ive ever had a personal interaction with a GM, spammed any boards, and bashed but banned anyway. Now tell me thats just and fair.

was Lumieres on that server and if you played there tell me how im a troll or caused problems.

[Erasong]

Lol how does someone even appeal anything if youre banned? Little hard to get into contact with anyone.

[Wharhog]

***

[apio]

Ridiculous? Yes
Surprising? No

[Mandalore93]

Oh I have no problem with my ban considering my last post or two on there. Don't think I even addressed the admin(s) at any point except for my initial post and to say I was the only one being vulgar is a bit silly but to each their own.

It's always been like this in online communities for games. When you post you take a risk of being banned. Even more toxic on leagues for mid level amateur FPS players since they don't have anything to lose in terms of items usually. Admins tend to either develop thick skin or burn out quickly. If their solution is to ban people at the slightest provocation that's certainly a valid mechanism.

But for Apio to get banned is rather surprising given how much work he was doing day in and day out.

[Erasong]

I mean im really starting to buy into the "its destiny's box" theory with a few added exceptions from their good ole boy buddies who originated on AK.

[Haynar]

Oh I am being told its for RMT, rumors are flying, I was selling my gear in auction guess that means I was rmt'ing it

/edit: worst part of it all is anyone I logged on got banned as well

I guess I better review their policies more.

I like that they enforce rules. But if there are too many ....

H

[Paleman]

But I'm in love with da coco.

<Divine Right> recruiting to slay dragons and have fun.

here here! all 3-5 of us will wreck!

[Erasong]

They were just looking for a reason to nail Furst honestly and nailing him meant more of his guildies perma banned too so its a double slam dunk for the server staff I guess.



47 Paladin LFG on p99!

[Paleman]

so what is the only guild raiding now? divinity? did all other guilds get busted up?



for da coco

[Erasong]

Divinity isnt even raiding yet I dont think. 4 people make up that guild of 12 mages starvald domsomething or other. They also happen to be close friends with 1 of the GM's/dev's.

[Paleman]

ah so it was just armednhammered?

[Mandalore93]

Quick side note here

mandalore was definitely a fucking troll. Guy tells people he gets bored of eq by the time he is level 20, but has enough knowledge to chime in about 1 guild having the biggest roster to take out raid targets.

you guys need to step off da coco

ah so it was just armednhammered?

So what you're saying is that I was completely correct? What a shock that the guild that already had 20+ players who were level 40+ when they should have been somewhere between 20-35 is the one capable of downing raid targets.

You don't have to like playing EQ like a crack addict fifteen years after release to know how things work.

[Paleman]

Quick side note here





So what you're saying is that I was completely correct? What a shock that the guild that already had 20+ players who were level 40+ when they should have been somewhere between 20-35 is the one capable of downing raid targets.

You don't have to like playing EQ like a crack addict fifteen years after release to know how things work.

what I was saying you had alot to say about something you wouldnt ever be involved in. in my eyes it just meant you wanted to cause some shit.

[surron]

Beware of an imitation server popping up shortly.

This new server is being developed and maintained by the ex guild leaders of Armed n Hammered, because they lost out x2 poop socking Vox. Also a couple of their members got banned for harassing staff or being involved with the ddos'ing of p99 a while back.

They are creating this server because they don't agree with the rotations and the way the staff handles forum questing. They claim GM intervention will be minimal and a communistic approach will not happen when it comes to forum posts and censorship.

Well I have already had my post deleted from their new boards for asking simple questions.

Questions posted in RnF such as...

"How can I trust in the longevity of this server since it was made out of rage and the people running it were able to disband their guild and throw away the time their guildmates put in?"

"Why would someone want to create a raiding guild that will compete with AnH on this new server when AnH will make up 100% of the devs / GMs?"


Beware of the hypocritical and shady staff of this new server.

[Paleman]

any links to this new servers boards?

[Imaa]

The people who got banned are making their own server? That's hysterical.

[Laugher]

The code is being coded to support people who want to take the code sometime down the line and make their own server with their own rulesets;



They are creating this server because they don't agree with the rotations and the way the staff handles forum questing.

http://i.imgur.com/ZU2Gp6V.png

[Haynar]

The people who got banned are making their own server? That's hysterical.

Give them a break.

It will be a high quality server. With staff that has the highest integrity.

No GMs to interfere. And a totally asshat free environment.

H

[Pokesan]

Starting a clone server was expressly encouraged at launch. Nothing wrong with it, I'd wager the TAKP folks are flattered as hell.

[Haynar]

Starting a clone server was expressly encouraged at launch. Nothing wrong with it, I'd wager the TAKP folks are flattered as hell.
I bet they are happy to have the people driving them crazy, to leave and make their own server.

[Erasong]

They unbanned my account after hearing me out on IRC. If im going to advertise the bad ill speak up for the good.

[Haynar]

They unbanned my account after hearing me out on IRC. If im going to advertise the bad ill speak up for the good.
That is what they have said. Go to IRC, and things can probably be worked out.

They are in such early stage of the server, they will probably work out a lot of issues.

Those who get carried away with flame fests, when upset, you might have to do more tap dancing. But I bet you can get unbanned, and stay that way if you keep clean.

H

[Paleman]

good to hear that they are rectifying mistakes.

[Harbogast]

I would play on this server if there was a setup guide for PC.

Kazolo

[Haynar]

I would play on this server if there was a setup guide for PC.

Kazolo

Yes. That is an issue. I agree. Its not very clear.

You can put it over a titanium install.

Get a copy of eqmules 2.2 build for eqmac windows. Dump that in the folder.

You then need the appropriate ui files. I think there is a compatible set on eqinterface.

Then you need to set the login server in your eqhosts.txt.

H

[Mandalore93]

You have a drop box premium account? I'm pretty sure I still have my entire set up on there but it's quite large.

[ylarik24]

trying to get in on there but I have been waiting for a admin to register me? how long does this usually take? I have the game downloaded don't get any errors all is good just in a account name I assume is when I get registered..


For those who are having trouble downloading it for pc here is the link I used it seems to work.https://newagesoldier.com/eqmac-alkabor-lives/

[drelk001]

I just got back into it, made a gnome/mage, been killing in FoB, level 3 :)

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Server is amazing.

[Elements]

trying to get in on there but I have been waiting for a admin to register me? how long does this usually take? I have the game downloaded don't get any errors all is good just in a account name I assume is when I get registered..


For those who are having trouble downloading it for pc here is the link I used it seems to work.https://newagesoldier.com/eqmac-alkabor-lives/

Also been waiting for days for an admin to approve forum account. Can anyone put a bug in their ear for us?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I wonder how Eashan would feel if he found out one of the people he helped give a huge head start to was me... :o

[radditsu]

I wonder how Eashan would feel if he found out one of the people he helped give a huge head start to was me... :o

inc ban for duping or some nonsense.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

inc ban for duping or some nonsense.

I hope not, then some other poor fella or lass is gonna get banned because I paid it forward.

[Millburn]

Also been waiting for days for an admin to approve forum account. Can anyone put a bug in their ear for us?

I've also been waiting a long time. Anybody know what's going on with that?

[pharmakos]

just started a thread on their forums for you guys having trouble getting accounts activated

http://www.takproject.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=2722&p=14115#p14115

excited for millburn to roll up on here. :)

[Millburn]

Thanks for doing that Goat, I'm looking forward to giving this a go round. I'm trying to convince myself not to roll a Ranger at this point now that xp penalty will be gone and AA's will be in.

[pharmakos]

As some may have noticed, the rise and fall in the population has been slightly more stabilized as a result of a couple of things.
(A GM based /who all still shows 80+ currently at various times of the day.)

The recent issues that have taken GMs and devs away from server side progress have prompted me to turn all activations into manual only.
So the rise in population is not automatic. Also as important and directly related is the fact that many have reached endgame (preplanes classic) already.
As a result are getting bored, and firing off questions about when is more content going to be released, fighting over the highest content available, etc..

So instead of having the same drawn out response multiple times further removing dev time that should be spent on advancing the server code and content, I'll answer it here.

We learned from the fast release into beta that any further content clearly needs to be gone through extensively before subjecting the community to yet more bugs and imbalance issues.
The previous issues have resulted in over a collective month of dev time removed which we will never get back.
It tends to harm a community when imbalance and previously unknown bugs surface once the community is exposed to them.
So Rob and I have decided that we will take a more cautious approach when it comes to release.

Another side factor is the game mechanics.
There are plenty of issues still existing that we stated early on that need to be resolved before further content is even considered. If we do not fix many of these issues, it will just expand the workload from a CSR side of things and remove us from actual advancement. There isn't any arbitrary reason to not release content at all. We (the devs) are here to develop the server codebase and database that anyone can use to start their own server.
This is first and foremost. The server being online and using this platform is a necessary side effect that we will always have. But we really wish to not sacrifice the goal of preserving and developing the code and structure over doing CSR work on just one of the many potential servers that will run this code and database.

This is not saying we will disappear from the server and let the monkies run wild. We just need some room to "get it right the first time".
We will still make sure the Dev based server is ran as well as possible. This is not a retirement post of the staff to the community. It just is ment to convey the point that the more time spent dealing with issues players have, the longer it will take to get to everyone's goal.

I am also working everyday to implement a new forum that will help automate much of the things that remove dev time.
Once I have the time to get things like this done, I will be able to assist more in actual content development. As well as CSR related things.

If you are one of the players that are trying to get a forum account and still waiting, please have a current member PM me with your account name you made, and details that may assist in the consideration to activate your account. You can also pop on our IRC and PM me directly.

[pharmakos]

so i guess TAKP is sort of invite-only right now? speedz must just need some chill time after the Armed & Hammered genocide and the community arguing back and forth about what the raid scene should be like.

i don't think it will be this way for long. i bet it'll be more back to normal in a few weeks at most.

millburn, what did you name your account over on their forums?

[Millburn]

Thanks a ton for helping me out Goat, you're a true bro.

Edit: You beautiful asshole, they've already activated the account and everything. I love you.

[apio]

The North Korea Project :)

[Flamewraith]

Lol they edited my post off of the forums. I wonder how often they do that to others?

[Flamewraith]

Ban inc I suppose.

[Secrets]

Just a quick reminder that this server still exists, and account registration is open once again for the play server.

Much like PEQTGC, development continues regardless of the interest in the server. If you're interested in contributing, pop on irc.eqemulator.net:6667 and join #takpmembers.

Github is available at https://github.com/cavedude00 as per usual.

[surron]

I made a basic iOS app for this server (because we don't have buff timers.)

... Anyways maybe some p99 people will find this useful for timing spawns and or debuffs

http://imgur.com/Yz3CyXp.jpg

search for EQTimers on the app store

[Swish]

Just a quick reminder that this server still exists, and account registration is open once again for the play server.

Much like PEQTGC, development continues regardless of the interest in the server. If you're interested in contributing, pop on irc.eqemulator.net:6667 and join #takpmembers.

Github is available at https://github.com/cavedude00 as per usual.

How's the population looking these days? I shouldn't judge by the forums but they kind of put me off installing.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

How's the population looking these days? I shouldn't judge by the forums but they kind of put me off installing.

/who all is still too many players even in odd hours. Been jewel crafting the past few nights and still getting buyers throughout late night/early morning. Getting a group under lvl 20 is a bit rough but aside from that sol a, HHK and Lguk seem to always have a group or two.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

If you play let me know, I got a pair of 20s, a pair of 35s and a pair of 50s

[Wharhog]

Thats because those zones are set as "Hotzones" in the database and have been since release. Slight oversight heh......meaning applying the "hotzonerule" those zones are giving 75% more exp than they should....bringing the ZEMs to over 200% xp in places like sola/befallen.....and almost doubling the xp awarded in lguk.....and WK/NK are literally double their normal xp.

[surron]

thanks for the bug report

[Wharhog]

Just returning the favor

[Torven]

Well, while we are returning favors, I'll point out a few things.

Nag and Vox are supposed to flee. They not only flee on Live, (and I can find no evidence their stats have changed) you can see screenshots and discussion of a PoP era solo kill here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20030731103232/http://pub41.ezboard.com/fvazaellecommunitycenterfrm1.showMessage?topicID=4 161.topic
http://web.archive.org/web/20030706225940/http://pub41.ezboard.com/fvazaellecommunitycenterfrm1.showMessageRange?topi cID=4161.topic&start=101&stop=120

Notable quote: "There was issues of the location of th dragon's corpses, these dragons not unlike pretty much everything else in EverQuest runs at 10%"

Furthermore you can view his Vox kill log and get a good idea of her casts.

Respawn times on Cauldronbubble/boil being 6 hours is intentional and based on this thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-63211.html

The ferocious hammerhead shark wanders the patriarch room. He (apparently) spawns in that little room then swims up and wanders the patriarch room. AK captures had no NPC in the small room. see http://members.tripod.com/ms_9ball/kedge.html and http://eq.magelo.com/npc/411398

Beastlord pets should not be as strong as necro pets until perhaps Kunark. Necro pets are some of the strongest pets-- only mage earth pets tank better. Low to mid level beast pets actually suck. I literally parsed every 1-65 pet on Live for 3+ hours each minus some of the mage ones since they have so many. I have precise values for Live that match old web pages quite well. See https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10cwrKsjJhtY8fwgkevYaHCSmne7CX9Zu1xUHSgsZL9U/ http://www.eqclassic.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=519 http://samanna.net/eq.general/pets.shtml

[Wharhog]

Malignant Dead 39 33 Warrior 1000 39

S/o Yekan 39 31 1500 40

From your link, bst pets actually have more hp's at pet level 39.



Naggy and Vox leashes and running are the issue...Sony never intended for a dragon to run out of a room, ch and reset....this is a bug and we fixed it.

Vox has only the spells on her table she should have....not the entire cleric default list.

"Respawn times on Cauldronbubble/boil being 6 hours is intentional and based on this thread: https://www.project1999.com/forums/a...p/t-63211.html" - ours is 6hrs as well....didn't touch it


Also...we fixed double attack code so it mimic's your parses.....right now from lvl 1-30 mobs are double attacking far greater than they should be. Expect a push to git within the next week of this.

[Circa.]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

[surron]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

hmm not sure what you mean by dead as hell. there are active posts going on now and the latest server update was 2 days ago

[Torven]

From your link, bst pets actually have more hp's at pet level 39.

When I was parsing beast pets, I had to symbol them on a cleric just to keep them alive. In contrast, the necro and earth pets did not require it.

The big difference between beast pets and the others are the terrible dual wield/double attack rates they get pre-49. However they are also not on par with necro pets defensively. The level 39 tier is the most favorable classic tier between the two classes. (incidentally my data shows a much narrower hp gap) A level 8 necro pet however has more hp and hits harder than a level 8 (9 on live) beast pet. A 34 shaman pet has slightly more hp than a 30 beast pet. The 49 summon is 2 levels below the necro pet, hundreds of less hp, and less damage.

Naggy and Vox leashes and running are the issue...Sony never intended for a dragon to run out of a room, ch and reset....this is a bug and we fixed it.

The error was the hate wipe and full heal, not the fleeing. I had Speedz remove the hate wipe and heal portion of the scripts.

The default spell sets do not include every class spell and spells on them are restricted by level range. The only really significant inaccuracy is that our Vox is casting Reckoning instead of Retribution. Vox on Live also casts Reckoning instead of Retribution however. Logs confirm she does cast small heals.

Vox casting a few roots (which I put large recast times on) is hardly a major issue. I removed yaulp eons ago. Vox may or may not cast cleric AoEs, I don't know. I put 120 second recast times on those regardless. I do recall some cleric NPCs casting AoEs.

Also...we fixed double attack code so it mimic's your parses.....right now from lvl 1-30 mobs are double attacking far greater than they should be. Expect a push to git within the next week of this.

Great. If all it took was Speedz banning you to get you and Stairs to contribute, then perhaps it was for the best after all.

I can't help but notice the irony of being laughed at for not noticing errors we imported from PEQ when you at the same time import those same errors from TAKP.

[Swish]

whats this server's website ? That OP one looks dead as hell.

It's a shit way of doing things. Until you log in on those forums you see very very little in terms of active posts... similar to going on a guild's website.

[apio]

Great. If all it took was Speedz banning you to get you and Stairs to contribute, then perhaps it was for the best after all.



Just quoting this so you don't delete it.

That statement is ridiculous, get a reality check

The developers of Project 2002 were by far the biggest contributors to TAK, and will probably be for a very long time.

[Secrets]

Just quoting this so you don't delete it.

That statement is ridiculous, get a reality check

The developers of Project 2002 were by far the biggest contributors to TAK, and will probably be for a very long time.

What's more silly is you both are arguing about a project that is supposed to be a community project. I'd rather see both projects contribute and have only the contributions matter. I'm also appalled that there was drama to begin with. I'm in regular contact with Speedz and he's not this villain that you make him out to be. Likewise I've had nothing but good interactions with Arm and Hammered during the initial launch of the server. Yes, both sides lost their temper at times (like this forum post) but to split my baby into two servers is a bit insulting on both sides.

You both have contributed in your own ways. Stop the fucking bickering. EQMac was one server, one community. And it certainly didn't appeal to the P99 crowd when I started this project; I did it for ALL players, not just one group of them. For the longest time there wasn't even GM interaction on SOE's Al`Kabor. Maybe it should stay that way.

[Torven]

That statement is ridiculous, get a reality check

The developers of Project 2002 were by far the biggest contributors to TAK, and will probably be for a very long time.

What, you mean aside from these people: http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/the-alkabor-project-team.19/

I specifically said Wharhog and Stairs, because they were hanging out in our dev-only chat room telling your guild everything we were discussing while having stopped contributing (Stairs in particular) because Speedz made them mad one day or something. On top of that Stairs was posting in this thread on an anonymous account badmouthing us and the server. (if it's not Stairs, it's a close associate of his at the minimum) When they were removed from the channel they of course threw a fit. I delayed Speedz from booting them earlier simply because I thought it better to put up with some bullshit rather than lose potential contributors, but eventually he had enough.

Yes, when only considering the feedback-giving regular users, several Armed members were at or near the top of the list for contributors (perhaps you at the top). You were not 'developers' for TAKP though.

I even said in IRC what a shame it was that you couldn't get along with us better because your contributions were significant. Speedz doesn't like it when you bad mouth devs for disagreeing with them, what can I say. I didn't want you banned and tried to stick up for you, then you pasted our private conversation for others to see, which made me think twice about being candid with any of you in private.

[Flamewraith]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

[Secrets]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

I don't think any single one of us cares about the server population or what it might end up at. This is a preservation project, not a pissing content.

[Torven]

No matter how you spin it, the takp server went from having a 200 pop to a 50 max pop. You can't use the "it will get better with planes" excuse anymore. You can CLEARLY see the drop in pop happened when bans started flying left and right, and all these crazy rules went into place. My god could you fucking imagine if these same GM's had to handle p99? Bullets flew with 200 pop, that place would explode at the seams with 1400 pop.

I'm not going to lie; you're not entirely wrong. However your numbers are exaggerated. There are three dragon killing capable guilds active right now. (or near it anyway)

The community basically split into the hardcores and the carebears on two servers. (with some exceptions) TAKP voted rotations and has a low tolerance for rudeness. Speedz and Rob want to try and recreate the EQMac atmosphere and it's their server to do so. I prefer something closer to p99-like rules, myself.

Secrets is right in that I/we never signed up for this to make a single server. My original goal was to merely document and parse the game before the opportunity was lost forever-- for the benefit of all emus. I wasn't even a dev until long after I started data collecting. They asked me to help so I did.

We want the project to get to the point where anybody can download it, use a simple installer, and have a working high-quality classic server running in minutes. The only thing that matters is that classic EQ lives on. When EQ1 shuts down for good one day, the emus are all that's left. Daybreak won't open source it and there are no EQ clones unlike the millions of WoW clones.

[Wharhog]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/popcorn-gifs/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif

[Flamewraith]

I don't think any single one of us cares about the server population or what it might end up at. This is a preservation project, not a pissing content.

Hey I'm sorry if I offended you with my last post, it was very hostile I will admit. Like I said the server has chilled waaaaay out since the initial mortal kombat scene, but the way that things were handled was very extreme.

[nagmarr]

Oh well, TAKP has certainly moved on since A & H left to make their server. If population numbers are an issue for you, then don't play there. Honestly the "Numbers" aren't really an issue for the large majority of the server. It just seems like a talking point for those that would, to take a jab at the server and growing community, so if it sways you one way or the other, oh well. There were just under 100 in alliance when i logged on yesterday. There's plenty to do, and plenty of people to interact with, at various times. And lots of room for growth. The content is somewhat limited atm anyways. This server will grow and grow and be around for years to come. - If you are looking for a change you might like the perspective you get which is so different from many other servers. TAKP isn't going to be everyones cup of Tea, just like p99 isn't everyone's cup of tea. And AK/EQMAC wasn't everyone's cup of tea! But it's a good server with friendly people, and allot of people putting time and work in to it. it's more or less drama free at this point, and there are allot of people working hard on all levels to make it an awesome throwback to EQMac aka Al'Kabor. I would encourage anyone to pop over to takproject.net and check it out. If you have any questions specific to TAKP feel free to PM me and i'll do my best to answer them, or you can send me a tell in game.
Oiwon

[Secrets]

Server's still doing pretty well, stable population and a bunch of small guilds.

Had the help of some awesome people lately (Robregen, Haynar, etc) to get a lot of the issues that were plaguing the server fixed.

Just checking in with these screenshots:

http://puu.sh/hoJNt/eb95a5e6f5.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJRW/7ebc4b8b4f.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJTe/0f1eef33ba.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJX5/1047348af2.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJXX/f20566b7a4.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJYY/89228d119a.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoK1w/9d583d3e6d.png
http://puu.sh/hoK3x/53f69f6aca.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoK5M/264e185ea0.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoKg5/31f024c99a.jpg

[pharmakos]

is the vendor bug still happening with that classic UI? i wanted to play with just the classic velious UI but trying to buy things caused my client to desync me and eat up my platinum but now drop the item in my inventory. switching to newui=true in my eqclient.ini fixed it...

[Secrets]

is the vendor bug still happening with that classic UI? i wanted to play with just the classic velious UI but trying to buy things caused my client to desync me and eat up my platinum but now drop the item in my inventory. switching to newui=true in my eqclient.ini fixed it...

I'll double check and get it fixed if it's still happening.

[pharmakos]

not* drop the item in my inventory, not "now"

[surron]

Server's still doing pretty well, stable population and a bunch of small guilds.

Had the help of some awesome people lately (Robregen, Haynar, etc) to get a lot of the issues that were plaguing the server fixed.

Just checking in with these screenshots:

http://puu.sh/hoJNt/eb95a5e6f5.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJRW/7ebc4b8b4f.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJTe/0f1eef33ba.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJX5/1047348af2.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJXX/f20566b7a4.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoJYY/89228d119a.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoK1w/9d583d3e6d.png
http://puu.sh/hoK3x/53f69f6aca.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoK5M/264e185ea0.jpg
http://puu.sh/hoKg5/31f024c99a.jpg

sweeeet pics, that map when choosing starting cities is legit!

[vincin]

This server only for Apple Macs. dumb

[vincin]

Apple = dumb.

[Daldaen]

http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/inability-to-join-chat-channels.1920/

This bug is what led me to stop playing mostly. Not being able to join alliance made me very sad and I couldn't figure out what was bugged out to cause this either.

I love the classic client/UI and ability to box but not being able to chat with anyone or form groups or sell made it rather sadface.

[vincin]

No server is better than P99. this thread sucks.

[pharmakos]

http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/inability-to-join-chat-channels.1920/

This bug is what led me to stop playing mostly. Not being able to join alliance made me very sad and I couldn't figure out what was bugged out to cause this either.

I love the classic client/UI and ability to box but not being able to chat with anyone or form groups or sell made it rather sadface.

/ooc is global now, and always works

[Daldaen]

Last I saw auction was global but no one used it. Do people just use the global OOC to replace alliance channel or are they both used?

[pharmakos]

people just use /ooc

[Madbad]

Those screenies make my heart happy

[nagmarr]

There was a bug with Alliance it was buggy not sure if it's fixed but OOC and Auction are global, and this server isn't Mac only BRO i would say a majority of people are playing on a PC.

[Secrets]

http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php?threads/inability-to-join-chat-channels.1920/

This bug is what led me to stop playing mostly. Not being able to join alliance made me very sad and I couldn't figure out what was bugged out to cause this either.

I love the classic client/UI and ability to box but not being able to chat with anyone or form groups or sell made it rather sadface.

/ooc is now serverwide and doesn't bug out.

[Secrets]

This server only for Apple Macs. dumb

You can play this on a Windows machine too.

[Torven]

No server is better than P99

I won't even argue against that statement. But I will say that TAKP is the most accurate emu after p99.

Significant corrections and additions were made to gameplay mechanics from the stock EQEmu code and more are forthcoming. Expect melee push and corner tanking soon. NPC stats were painstakingly parsed from many hundreds of logs and are not just made up.

I sit and watch people raid for hours to make sure stuff works right. This isn't just another 'throw up EQEmu code using a PEQ database and tweak some server rules' type server. I changed the server code the other day just because one of the fear golems wasn't casting AoEs often enough and it couldn't be resolved in the database. (although the issue would affect other raid bosses with similar AoEs)

If anybody would enjoy a server that stops at PoP instead of Velious, allows limited boxing, uses an older 2002 era client, isn't super crowded, has anti-poopsocking policies for highly contested raid bosses, and has a commitment to accuracy, then you might enjoy TAKP. We're currently in classic era with fear/hate open and sky will likely open in a month. That said, p99 has a 5 year head start on us, so don't expect their level of polish just yet.

Anybody interested can PM me for login details.

Current CCU is roughly 60-90 characters in prime time; but other than Secrets replying in threads other people have started, the staff has not been advertising the sever. I thought I would chime in here with some basic server info.

[vincin]

I'll try out the server, why not. I'll try to get on tomorrow night. I went to the site and can't find instructions on how to play. Maybe they are in this thread. I'm out of town atm, I'll look more when I get home.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Bumping because people need an alternative to daybreak.

Fear/Hate are open, Sky/Hole/Kunark soon.

[Secrets]

http://puu.sh/hUZId/27c8841cce.jpg

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

http://puu.sh/hUZId/27c8841cce.jpg

:p

[Buellen]

Like Torven posted server is not going to be a "clean" as P1999, simply because p1999 has had what 6 years of people posting with proof bugs that needed to be corrected.

I play on it occasionly when i get an hour or two and do my best to post bugs when i find them 8). IT is a different a experience than p1999, but overall it is entertaining.

[Sketched]

I just wanted to let people know that there is currently double exp happening on the server, ending Wednesday. I have leveled a team up to 50 already and thoroughly enjoyed the server. It is nice being able to box but still maintain a reasonable limit of 3 boxes.

The dev team is quite committed to the project with lots of database changes, server stability improvements, melee push code!, and lots of bug fixes. PoSky is up on the dev server and will be released soon. The rough estimate of Kunark is end of summer, but I am not a dev so I don't have details on this.

There are guilds raiding Naggy/Vox/Hate/Fear currently. There is a decent community on the server with a lot of friendly, chill players. There are lots of tradeskillers around as well. Be prepared to be somewhat independent during the leveling process though, as there aren't enough numbers at every level to support constant grouping. Depending on what you are looking for this isn't a negative thing. I have known quite a few people to solo box group classes like warrior/cleric/rogue up to 50, it is quite doable, you just need patience sometimes.

Server is pretty stable, there can be client crashes and disconnects sometimes, but over all it is very playable. Its also great to be on an open-source server that you can contribute too. Come play!

[sillymonster]

wharhogg:

i'm trying to track you down for ninjaing out the account. you've also netted a bunch of our stuff, manastones, fungis, et cetera. PM me.

Zyzz and Eldub
<Inglourious Basterds>

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Also - boxing is the only way to make eq even mildly challenging. I always boxed on live and always missed not being able to do it on p99.

Try red. Slightly more difficult than blue.

[burkemi5]

Anyone still playing this server? How is it doing?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Anyone still playing this server? How is it doing?

Pretty good, more new people logging in every day. There are a pile of people in their 20s/30s and my guild is working with another guild to do open raids. Open fear last week and open Naggy/Vox this week, both with great turnouts.

I don't play during peak times since I work in the evenings but there are consistantly too many people online to list until around 3am every night.

[Secrets]

Anyone still playing this server? How is it doing?

http://i.imgur.com/JEGq0OB.jpg

oh, wrong server

[Sketched]

The server is doing well. The devs are consistently fixing mechanics and working on Kunark. Come here if you want to contribute to an open source restoration project or debate mechanics, or are slightly more casual. The community is great here and a lot of the people from Alkabor are here, for instance Destiny is set up this server. There are 2 raiding guilds Austerity and Destiny.

[pharmakos]

server is pretty much a casual or boxer paradise tbph. lots of single boxers, no one feels pressured to box like on other servers that allow boxing... but the option is there if that's what you prefer.

[surron]

the guys over at http://www.takproject.net/ are doing a great job on kunark development

[Secrets]

Kunark is going live on October 7 followed by a GM launch event.

If you didn't have enough Kunark in P99, maybe this will tickle your jimmies.

[Sketched]

Lots of huge code changes being done by team. Multiquest support, disciplines, Kunark boats, and mob positioning updates! New character transfer tools to switch chars between accounts as well. Server is running smooth and stable. Of course a very feature and content complete Kunark being launched soon too. The community is mature and helpful.

You can learn more about setting up and obtaining the client below at http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Main_Page and the forums http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php

[Pokesan]

manastone and guise never dropped on this server, right? I didn't miss anything cool?

e: are mages still super good?

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

e: are mages still super good?

They are great but not "all guilds burn down dragons with 30 mages and nothing else" great. Although they were *that* great back in March. :p

[Secrets]

manastone and guise never dropped on this server, right? I didn't miss anything cool?

e: are mages still super good?

I don't think there's plans to add in anything that wasn't on EQMac beyond maybe bugfixes.

[Pokesan]

oh hey they upped the account limit! 10 accounts now, 3 can be online. very good change wish they had done that at the start. alt army hooo!

[Sketched]

Yup the account limit was recently upped. There is also a char transfer tool that was developed so you can move chars between your accounts more easily. There are no manastones or dropped guises on the server as they were never on Alkabor, which this server is being developed to replicate. So you dont have to worry about missing out due to joining late.

[JayDee]

I was about to give it a spin until I saw their forums. If it is any indication, the server is dead.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I was about to give it a spin until I saw their forums. If it is any indication, the server is dead.

Over 100 people logged in today at points. Numbers will go up fast after a month when Kunark drops.

[Sixpence]

Didn't Kunark go live last night? Be crazy times in the Field of Bone right now...

[Rick Sanchez]

When you can box that many accounts, it will just turn into another EQemu and fade into the abyss,

[Secrets]

When you can box that many accounts, it will just turn into another EQemu and fade into the abyss,

3 accounts is all you can box.

[Caladbolg]

3 accounts is all you can box.

Same as p2002, but you seem to be really mad at and against that emu.

[Pokesan]

it's a real struggle to get more than one character online at a time, so this is going back on the shelf for now :(

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Same as p2002, but you seem to be really mad at and against that emu.
TAK was 3 box limit from the start. 2002 broke off and copied TAK.

This post is for continuity purposes.
it's a real struggle to get more than one character online at a time, so this is going back on the shelf for now :(

Haven't had any issues lately with keeping boxes in. Did you try asking about it in the IRC?

[Sketched]

Jaydee if you are expecting P99 level of forum and server activity any project will seem dead. If you log on and spend some time on TAKP you will realize the project is anything but. The goal of the project is to replicate and preserve the Al'kabor server with a high degree of accuracy while keeping things open-source. It isn't about having the highest population number. Al'kabor was a pretty quiet server anyways.

The 3-box online limit provides a nice balance between different play styles. People can't do everything on their own, and for the people that want to multibox, that option is there.

Pokesan, did you grab the latest client version from the wiki link I posted earlier? Or are you using another version? You can always post on out technical support forums as well.

[Haynar]

Pokesan, did you grab the latest client version from the wiki link I posted earlier? Or are you using another version? You can always post on out technical support forums as well.
If you run any other programs and they access directdraw, they are gonna crash the takp client. That includes things that dim the windows screen an pops a UAC prompt. You can edit UAC settings to not dim the screen.

There are plenty of programs that access direct draw and crash the takp client. Either don't start other programs after starting client, or get them all running before you start the client.

The crash can probably be found and edited to not happen. I have not tried to chase this down. I have started playing with eqw.exe testing different options. Have not done much there yet tho.

H

[Pokesan]

Pokesan, did you grab the latest client version from the wiki link I posted earlier? Or are you using another version? You can always post on out technical support forums as well.

Downloading it now. I had been using the client I setup back in january. Worked well enough then to reach 17 - I take it there's been significant changes?

[Haynar]

The eqmule 2.2 changes help a lot over older mods.

[Secrets]

Same as p2002, but you seem to be really mad at and against that emu.

I have nothing against them, personally - we've resolved our differences.

Might wanna brush up on your stalking skills a bit.

[Pokesan]

I guess reading the instructions would have helped. But I'm in now, new client is working a lot better. Thanks guys!

[Haynar]

I guess reading the instructions would have helped. But I'm in now, new client is working a lot better. Thanks guys!

The new wiki getting started guide makes it so much easier. http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started

And its only about a 2 gig install. So having it installed doesn't fill up ur HD. Its worth checking out if you have time.

H

[Torven]

I really wish this thread title had our project name in it if it's going to be TAKP's sole thread here

[Lamil]

Looks interesting even if I don't like the idea of boxing.. why do I crave a server that goes to PoP i have no idea

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Can't be hard to change a thread title.

[Haynar]

Can't be hard to change a thread title.

Can do that too

[pharmakos]

why do I crave a server that goes to PoP i have no idea

AAs and more endzones? even though they haven't developed that far yet.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Can do that too

Wewt

[Torven]

why do I crave a server that goes to PoP i have no idea

PoP has:

More raid targets than all previous expacs combined, with shorter respawns. Larger raid sizes.

Probably the best class balance the game has seen. Bards love PoP. Charm however was a little ridiculous. (enchanters also love PoP)

Tiered progression allowing high end raiders their private playgrounds. Killing a target is a lot more rewarding when it unlocks a new zone.

Luclin's introduction of AAs gave people shit to do after reaching the level cap. Getting the required AAs doesn't take as long as people complain about-- you don't need 200 AAs unless you're a MT; casters could get by with like 70 or something. A strong group could get 1/hr.

Luclin also brought caster focus items. (but sadly, also furries) Prior to that, the best thing casters could hope for was +X mana per tick on gear.

Horses for standing meditation regen.

Just before PoP's launch, Sony implemented a change that made killing whites/yellows/reds more worthwhile exp wise, making exp grinds more enjoyable.

PoP NPCs hit much harder and had more hitpoints, and the zones had significant ZEMs, further making killing fewer, harder NPCs more rewarding than massacring low blue cons.

PoP has a significant amount of 2-3 group content and worthwhile tradeskills.

Since gear in EQ didn't obsolete overnight on new expansions, even NToV in the PoP era actually had gear that was still usable to people who couldn't raid Luclin or PoP zones. Many VT drops didn't obsolete until the elemental tier or time. Some Dozekar loot was still quite valuable.

[Halimen]

Bump. Kunark coming soon. October 7th!

[Sketched]

110 characters logged in last night!

[Haynar]

110 characters logged in last night!

Peaked at 118. Three guilds raiding 3 different zones at same time I think.

H

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Joint fear raids after slaughtering back to back dragons is fun. :)

[sOurDieSel]

Kunark drops next week ya'llz get rdy

[Lamil]

Can't get the damn game to work.... sigh

[Halimen]

Can't get the damn game to work.... sigh

Playing on PC or MAC? Here's a link to the wiki getting started page.


http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started

[Sketched]

Feel free to get on the forums http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php and post in technical support, or send me a PM on TAKP and I can try to help. Logging into the chat on the forums is another place to potentially get help if people are around. For sure grabbing one of the clients from the link Halimen posted is a good first step to ensure a clean setup.

[Veltira]

My kingdom for a PoP server with enforced rules on boxing...

this

[Halimen]

Kunark releases tomorrow. Rejoice!

[stormlord]

Looks interesting even if I don't like the idea of boxing.. why do I crave a server that goes to PoP i have no idea
I think most crave it because of the perceived notion there's so much raid content. Luclin and POP get a lot of activity, but if I remember right, people may have even still been doing Kael raids? Epics are still useful. Raiding in EQ up through even SOD included a lot of expansions. But it seems with SoF and UF and later expansions all of the guilds concentrated in the latest expansion. I was there just the past year (or two? 2013?) and there were still posts about it in the forums. I think most of the modern raiding population doesn't care, but old timers remember a LASTING raiding experience across several expansion.

I'll admit I always wanted a POP capped server like AlKabor but for Windows PC's. But that was many moons ago. I don't care about it anymore. (EQ is too old hat now.) POP is also nice because you're killing the Gods. It just seems to make up for Luclin's alien misadventure. But Gates of Discord/DODH/OoW continued the alien style, IMHO. Somebody must have liked it...

[surron]

You crave PoP because it is the pinnacle of EQ. Almost everything was balanced in PoP.


Every single expansion makes sense in a PoP lock server. Some epics are still BiS or are needed for clicky, therefore Kunark is still around.

Velious can be raided for twink items or some BiS items (Dozekar). If the sleeper isnt awake then Sleepers is an awesome place to farm. KT and AoW loots are needed to gear up main tanks.

Luclin allows for more casual raid targets (Umbral Plains, revamped CT, Akeva Ruins, GE, Some of SSRA.) And introduces AAs which is something to do at max level.

And then you have PoP, which makes tradeskills useful again, classes are balanced via AAs. An awesome progression system which rewards you with zones if you are a raider. Plethora of 1-2 group raid mobs.


There are so many other reasons why PoP is the best expansion. All you will hear from people against PoP is the fact that it introduces books.

[Pringles]

PoP is my ideal server. It took a lot of the "suck" out of EQ, without watering it down too much (though I think the books cross that line, but I dig the rest).

Even if current blue doesnt progress past Velious, Ive always held out hope they would continue through till PoP on another box....

[Halimen]

Kunark has started off great. Lots of people helping others with epics, new zones for gear and experience. It's a great time to check out TAKP! This community is A+.

[Lenas]

Shaman epic was done like 30 minutes after launch, Paladin was maybe 7 hours. Monk epic completed some time day 2. Haven't really heard of any drama. Kunark Launch was A+.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Haven't really heard of any drama.

Jade Prod camp.

Just killed Drusilla 5 hours ago though, dropped mace.

[radda]

I'm coming over once I get it to work on pc.

[Sketched]

Secrets has been working on improving window switching for the PC version, details are here http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?6477-The-Al-kabor-Project-(EQMac)/page13

[Halimen]

Best emu community around. Just like AK was. We're here to enjoy the game. Not to be douchebags.

[Secrets]

Streaming some grouping in Kaesora and other places tonight. If you want to check out the server, it's probably one of the best times to do so.

http://www.twitch.tv/secretseq

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Streaming some grouping in Kaesora and other places tonight. If you want to check out the server, it's probably one of the best times to do so.

http://www.twitch.tv/secretseq

Send me a tell when I log in if you're still up at 1:00am. I still have your jewelry.

[Secrets]

Send me a tell when I log in if you're still up at 1:00am. I still have your jewelry.

Jewelry obtained, all is well in the world.

Fire Chip Kelly.

[surron]

Been having a blast here with ~100+ people on at night never have a problem finding groups in seb or HS. There was even an open PoHate raid last weekend.

here's the getting started guide http://wiki.takp.info/index.php?title=Getting_Started

with a 1 link download for the client.

Don't let the ability of others to box discourage you from joining. I've seen a rogue so far level himself up to 49 by being LFG. And a solo box ranger who has epics now.

[Happy]

Real fun place, real decent community. Not toxic whatsoever. Very helpful. Leveled up to 51 as a single boxed melee, no issues with groups and helpful folks. It feels more like the real EQ I remember to me vs. P99. A+ Would recommend.

[Ragnaros]

make a pvp server i'll play

[AzzarTheGod]

Streaming some grouping in Kaesora and other places tonight. If you want to check out the server, it's probably one of the best times to do so.

http://www.twitch.tv/secretseq

stream urself bb.

[Secrets]

stream urself bb.

I have a webcam here. Maybe i'll do a stream with it on playing EverQuest.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I have a webcam here. Maybe i'll do a stream with it on playing EverQuest.

Still mad at you for joining <destiny> they had enough GMs/devs as it was.

[Haynar]

Still mad at you for joining <destiny> they had enough GMs/devs as it was.

I like the Vintage guild and what they are about. I would never have time to raid tho. Sad panda for sure.

H

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I like the Vintage guild and what they are about. I would never have time to raid tho. Sad panda for sure.

H

Vintage broke up when they were outed as a <Starvald> feeder guild.

[xenoxod]

I am interested in trying this. Does the mouse scroll work for zooming in and out in this version? I saw it didn't work in project 2002.

Is the pet damage increase in place like on the EQ tlp servers?

[Sketched]

Project moving along nicely, lots of classic mechanics being done. Still doing a great job analyzing parses and implement accurate mechanics based on the data. PoK is always bustling during prime-time hours.

[bearhander]

For real classic 2002 mechanics. Play here. Enjoying it so far and they don't half ass content like the other server.

[Wharhog]

For real classic 2002 mechanics. Play here. Enjoying it so far and they don't half ass content like the other server.

Check your loot tables before you start throwing slander

[bearhander]

Heard you guys were skipping adding various mobs in Velious to rush release. Sounds authentic.

[Wharhog]

POM+CT/INNY will not be in ....CT/draco and Inny were not revamped until mid-Velious on live....so we are doing the same. Everything else will be in and active.

[apio]

If you have to keep bringing up P2002 in this thread, you should at least provide a link :)

[Keykey]

Sounds authentic.

Authentic

It's an interesting word to use.

- of undisputed origin

Do you mean undisputed by the 150 people that played Al'Kabor?

The server is not like the live experience most of us had. I gave up comparing because I didn't play on Al'Kabor.

Project 1999 has a goal of classic / recreation. I respect that. I got my nostalgia fix and it was glorious.

At this point, I'm not very concerned about a classic or authentic experience. Project 2002 managers are responsive to bugs which cause play issues. It's close enough to original EQ for me, and I am having fun...which is really all I'm looking for in a game.

[Tollen]

Heard you guys were skipping adding various mobs in Velious to rush release. Sounds authentic.


from http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&p=6687#p6687
Please keep in mind this is essentially a beta release and there most likely will be the occasional bug. This is why we have the forums and with your help we can make the gameplay as accurate as possible

I don't get the mud tossing ignorance of your comments, thought we were past all this.

we want the content out as players more then the dev team.

[Gimlish]

I also heard that due to the amount of NPCs in Kael, you weren't going to bother adding some because it was just too many to put in. Source is a GM on P2002.

[apio]

You know who doesn't sit on the P99 forum throwing mud at the TAK server? P2002 players, they are way too busy having fun playing on P2002 :)

And about the Kael NPCs: There are several cycles of mobs that have identical loot and share the same spawn group. They are identical except for their names. I am pretty sure this isn't a game breaking issue, but I know for certain that if you were to post this missing NPC on the P2002 forum, it would be in the game in no time.

[Cherry23]

No pvp, no mouse scroll wheel, not classic, boxing...

Nobody here cares about your game, for these reasons, we want nostalgic gameplay not your own version of EQ....

Fix the above issues and you'll have half of the p99 community come to your server because last I checked more than half of p99 loves POP expansion and sees that as the last classic expansion... According to the poll I check regularly on this website... And the majority of of hate boxing, because it takes away from the community and sense of working together with friends... Which you obviously just don't understand on your lame server....

[Torven]

Check your loot tables before you start throwing slander

You don't want to go there.

Project 2002 managers are responsive to bugs which cause play issues

That's because they don't have to fix them. Iance posts the bug reports people send them on TAKP's forum using an anonymous account that we let him keep.

[apio]

Our players don't care who fixes the bug, just that it's fixed. Thanks for "letting me keep an account" to keep posting bug reports. At least you guys finally realized I am not your enemy! Let's keep being constructive moving forward