incorrect items - reaver and blade of carnage

[falkun]

The reaver that dropped last night was 40/40, not the original 35/45.

The blade of carnage that dropped had the enraging blow proc.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=106708

[Byrjun]

Looks like most items are using the upgraded stats instead of the Velious release stats at the moment. For example, Sal`Varae's Robe of Dankness had FT3 instead of FT1.

Here's a good compilation of correct NToV drops for Velious release: http://padangg.tripod.com/ntov/ntov.htm

[wycca]

Looks like most items are using the upgraded stats instead of the Velious release stats at the moment. For example, Sal`Varae's Robe of Dankness had FT3 instead of FT1.

Here's a good compilation of correct NToV drops for Velious release: http://padangg.tripod.com/ntov/ntov.htm

Great resource, TY for the post.

[Ele]

There are two different sets of upgrades. A general Velious uber loot upgrade (NToV, Sleepers, Kael items) in June 2001 (http://www.legacyofsteel.net/Archives/Post/2001-06-28), but also the major 2 hander upgrade in October 2001 (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20011008.html) which retroactively upgraded a bunch of the 2 handers in NToV/Kael/Sleepers and even Blackstone Maul/Trorsmang in VP.

As for the specific question as to whether the uber items will come in original or upgraded flavor at the release of Velious:
Hasn't been decided yet, it will likely be the last thing we discuss/do before release.


Ongoing Project to find original Velious item stats (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqGWabb1EBM2dHh6NVdMUl8wbURGdHRpQ0lNajE0X 2c&usp=sharing) Can be used in conjunction with Bryjun's link.

[Man0warr]

Main thing I'm worried about is stealth upgrades to items on rarely (or never killed for months because of bugs) killed mobs like Tunare who obviously had items added/upgraded to her loot table between kills. There is very little evidence on when stuff like Fist of Nature and FT3 earring were added to her loot table, or maybe they were there initially but Tunare was killed so little because she was bugged for months.

Vulak had some items that were stealth upgraded/nerfed several times that were never mentioned in patch notes and didn't line up with the traditionally accepted uber item upgrade patches. Namely Gharn's Rock and the many iterations of Mylokar dagger - definitely their final upgrades were in before Luclin but it could have been anywhere from June to November 2001.

[wycca]

There was also a major monk/hybrid weapon patch, including where they added a bunch of weapons. Can find documentation of it in my Fist of Nature thread.

[falkun]

@Ele:
Nature's Melody (Tunare): http://wiki.project1999.com/Talk:Nature%27s_Melody
Sirensong (Lord Koi'Doken): http://wiki.project1999.com/Talk:Siren_Song,_Dagger_of_the_Sea

Basically everything I've been finding for upgrades I've been posting to the wiki. I'll keep going through your list against what I've posted to the wiki as I have time.

Is there one master list of item upgrades vs. originals or is everyone going around creating their own lists like the one Ele linked?

[azeth]

Here's a good compilation of correct NToV drops for Velious release: http://padangg.tripod.com/ntov/ntov.htm

So, Mrylokar's wasn't on Vulaks original loot table?

[Ele]

So, Mrylokar's wasn't on Vulaks original loot table?

A version of Mrylokar's Dagger was on Vulak, but people complained loudly once they found out the stats, so Verant nerfed it. Feast of Blood even appears to have changed effects with each iteration. 100hp lifetap -> 25hp lifetap -> 30hp/tick for 3 tick lifetap.

The Mrylokar's nerf is one of the reasons some of the better uber guilds started just posting kill pictures and not pictures of the item stats.

Fires of Heaven(?) got the first dagger and posted the stats in July 2001.
http://i.imgur.com/86qrzK7.jpg

From June 2001-October 2001, Vulak dropped:
http://i.imgur.com/iHMOW1x.gif

Last week of October 2001, it got changed again to:

http://i.imgur.com/CLyGGGO.jpg

[Ele]

Looks like most items are using the upgraded stats instead of the Velious release stats at the moment. For example, Sal`Varae's Robe of Dankness had FT3 instead of FT1.

Here's a good compilation of correct NToV drops for Velious release: http://padangg.tripod.com/ntov/ntov.htm

Has later versions of some items:

ex. Claw of Lightning is supposed to be 9/18 until the mid-Velious tov upgrade.