Project 1999, Daybreak, and Velious

[Rogean]

It’s been a busy year for Project 1999 and we have some exciting news we’ve been really anxious to share with all of you. As some of you may be aware, in the past there has been both confusion and concern over the status of Project 1999. We have recently entered into a written agreement with Daybreak Game Company LLC that formally recognizes Project 1999 as a fan based, not-for-profit, classic EverQuest emulation project. The agreement establishes the guidelines that we as a project must follow, but it will allow to us continue to update the game without risk of legal repercussions. As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks.

We would like to personally thank all the folks at Daybreak and acknowledge how awesome it is for a company to work with and embrace the creations of their fans. This is really something that’s unique in the gaming industry.

The Velious release has been rescheduled to the following dates:

Saturday, August 1st for the Project 1999 PvP Server.
Sunday, August 2nd for the Project 1999 PvE Server.

We would also like to sincerely apologize to those of you that have already established plans for a May release. We know many of you had scheduled time off from work and even planned parties or trips. I hope you can understand the importance and necessity of the decision we have made and we encourage those of you waiting in the meantime to enjoy the Daybreak Progression Server when it is released.

[dillweed]

inb4 someone freaks out

[Secrets]

:O

[Kope]

Very interesting news, quite groundbreaking to make an agreement with them :) nice job.

[Itap]

I'm extremely happy that Daybreak has decided to formally allow you and staff to run this project.

And as far as the Velious release date being pushed back, I'm just happy it's actually being released. Thanks Rog, Borg, Sirk, and the other staff members for their continual support for this game.

Also, nice sig change Rog

[Modus]

Winter isn't coming until later this summer yall.

[QFuzzle]

I like the sound of this. Are there any more details we can have about what this means? A little more elaboration. And maybe some details or a link to more information about this Daybreak progression server?

[Gongshow]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f589fe696dfb72460c8930869be7dc5f/tumblr_mnfwx3nT6w1rynk4uo1_250.gif

[Rednaros]

better make up for this with simmed repops
I feel bad for people who already took work vaca off
jesus
atleast the project will live on forever, keep up the good work

[jarshale]

I'm interested in what those guidelines we must follow are.

[Rushmore]

this stinks so bad

[Slathar]

hahahahahahahaha

[magician]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f589fe696dfb72460c8930869be7dc5f/tumblr_mnfwx3nT6w1rynk4uo1_250.gif

[Mr.crypto]

To the entire staff thank you so much for everything you do so us nerds can relive our youth. And on behalf of all sane people I apologize for the rants people will have over this.

[dis_mornin]

Atleast now there will be plenty of time to discuss red specific items for velly. Right ?

[Honest]

Release on a Sunday? Gonna force me to take time off work on Monday at the very least :(

[Rompar]

Noooooooo please no more kunark!

[Eslade]

hahahahahahahaha

[Yumyums Inmahtumtums]

hahahahahahahaha

[Chanur]

I am happy to see the risk of legal issues disappear. I also planned to play both the progression server and Red so I am happy. I have not been playing Kunark for the last several years though so I think that helps.

[Ele]

time to work on those red characters

[Beldan4]

I'm so happy for you guys that have run P1999 for so long. Having vellious pushed back is a very small price to pay for getting a WRITTEN agreement from people at daybreak. It must have been INCREADIBLE stress for you guys to have had to work under knowing that at anytime a lawsuit could have been dropped in your lap, or a declalration for you to shut down having all of your work and time go right down the drain. Gratz on moving to more legit and less stress state.

[Swish]

I can wait, we've waited this long etc.

[Genedin]

This is awesome. Really sad to see the date pushed back but in the long run I think everyone can agree it is worth it. Nice job.

[t3kn34k]

I feel so betrayed. this has been pushed back so far you might as well name it Final Fantasy Quest - Scars of Quellious

[Pringles]

Re: Daybreak

http://i.imgur.com/zpZL6bN.gif

[Aviann]

Well... Shit.. Keep up the good fight Rogean. You rock man...

[loramin]

Congrats to everyone on the P99 team. After years of operating with a constant fear of retaliation from SOE/Daybreak (even if that fear wasn't terribly likely to be realized), you can now finally relax and stop worrying about the most terrifying monster of all: the lawyer. :D

/cheer

[Ele]

http://i.imgur.com/pr1tNYk.jpg

[SamwiseRed]

Pras daybreak

[khanable]

Exciting news to hear about the good-faith agreement with Daybreak. With them officially recognizing p99 as a 'fan-made classic emulator', will there be any potential collaborations in the future between you guys and them? Will it make getting the client a little bit easier, and perhaps client changes any easier?

Also shame about pushing the winter back but it's understandable. MOAR BETA!

[Bierp]

Does the agreement only cover content through Velious?

I know there has never been a plan for P99 to go further, but the future is always in motion. If at some point you wanted to move P99 to the next expansion, could you?

[demonstar55]

Expected.

[Fame]

Perhaps a 4 month forced beta would help make sure the launch can live up to these expectations?

[Purp]

:D

[Kope]

There's also an official post on the everquest forum:

https://forums.station.sony.com/eq/index.php?threads/an-update-announcement-from-project-1999.219953/

[Silinius]

It's on EQ's main page... so it must be true. https://www.everquest.com/home

Guess I'm gonna cancel that vacation in late May...

[EndofLine]

This is incredible news. Though I realize a ton of folks won't understand why, the reality is the snap of a finger Daybreak could have immediately had this server shut down. Smedley is and has always been a rational man who despite a lot of folks personal feelings I have always and still do believe above all wants gamer's to have the experiences they want. I believe he realized that THIS server in particular provides something they simply don't have the manpower to create and support, and as such allowed this server to exist and thrive.

With the sale to DayBreak when I heard the Velious Launch, and how closely it will coincide with their planned Progression Server I immediately didn't believe that would bode well with Daybreak. Obviously they are spending a sizable amount of time and effort with their reduced staff to provide their player base with what they wanted (a new progression server) they need a return on that effort, and the release of Velious here would without question cause a conflict of players resubbing to enjoy that server.

Ultimately this is absolutely the healthiest choice for EVERYONE P1999 and EQLIVE players. Yes it's sad we won't see Velious for awhile, but BIG PICTURE. P1999 is alive, and is now onboard with Daybreak as they were with SOE which is enormous.

All in all, this incredible news in the long run.

Kudo's to P1999 staff for coming to an agreement, and an extreme kudos for Daybreak for doing the right thing for the folks who love and are so passionate about this era of the best game ever made. If any of you are reading this, thank you from all of us!

Shampaigne (P1999 Noob, but already my home...)
http://www.twitch.tv/end__of__line__

[Swish]

I say we drown Verrriouss the bear.

[Uuruk]

Can we make donations to daybreak for dark elf masks this time?

[pharmakos]

hahahahahahahahahahahahaha i hope everyone can cancel their vacation days.

[Rednaros]

its a good move, it will bring a lot more players, I know a few people who don't play because they are scared of legal issues..this is a good thing.
+ publicity from daybreak/soe

[Koota]

smells like blackmail. push it back .... OR ELSE.

[Rednaros]

!Earthquake

[manguard]

Good move on Daybreak's part. I was on the fence about trying their progression server but will now definitely give it a shot.

[Asharad]

It is really amazing that you guys got this agreement.

Nicely done.

[dealicious]

Will this mean you guys will be able to set up a all in one installer, upload a client, or even customize a client for Project 1999?!?!???

[khanable]

Will this mean you guys will be able to set up a all in one installer, upload a client, or even customize a client for Project 1999?!?!????

The question on everyones minds! Rogean pls

[Swish]

http://i.imgur.com/nPzXgi1.png

[Crom]

It’s been a busy year for Project 1999 and we have some exciting news we’ve been really anxious to share with all of you. As some of you may be aware, in the past there has been both confusion and concern over the status of Project 1999. We have recently entered into a written agreement with Daybreak Game Company LLC that formally recognizes Project 1999 as a fan based, not-for-profit, classic EverQuest emulation project. The agreement establishes the guidelines that we as a project must follow, but it will allow to us continue to update the game without risk of legal repercussions. As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks.

We would like to personally thank all the folks at Daybreak and acknowledge how awesome it is for a company to work with and embrace the creations of their fans. This is really something that’s unique in the gaming industry.

.

woot best news ever!!!!! Grats!!!!

[Osyruz]

http://38.media.tumblr.com/f589fe696dfb72460c8930869be7dc5f/tumblr_mnfwx3nT6w1rynk4uo1_250.gif

[cornisthebest]

neat.

[Agatha]

congrats to rogean and staff i know this has been in the works for quite some time im glad you guys were able to pull it off.

now i just hope you guys can pull off stage 2.

[Millburn]

This is how I feel reading this

http://i.imgur.com/gYwY6.gif

[Shaakglith12194]

I'm so happy that you guys have reached a formal agreement with Daybreak Games on the legality of this project. I haven't played on here in quite a while, but I love knowing that the characters that I've put so much time into playing won't be going away. Smedley is not your typical boss man, as evidenced by this agreement and having the life of EQ Mac prolonged as it was. This is amazing when you think about it...so many fan projects get shut down for no good reason.

[Tibbz]

Wow very nice! wonder if they will now have a place to legitimately download a client now.

[ergo]

So you gonna bring up beta server again so we can play around on it?

[Silinius]

Would also be great if they could host a server.... hint hint hint... /cough red PVP ... /cough /cough

[Swish]

If anything I'd say having a mention on the EQ daybreak site will help the pop and give us a bigger launch night in August :)

[Othniel626]

Interesting question that was posted on the EQ forum:

I wonder if Daybreak is doing this, in part, to take advantage of some of P99's zone files for running old zones on the progression server (i.e. EC/WC, Ro, FP)?

That would definitely be interesting and awesome for P99 to contribute in a way like that.

[Halius]

Wow very nice! wonder if they will now have a place to legitimately download a client now.

I'm sort of wondering this too. I mean technically the expansions we use here (Titanium Client) are now all part of the free to play version of Live EQ, so I don't see why they can't now host a place to get that client.

Edit: Also, Congrats on getting this deal done guys! Awesome news for everyone involved.

[Frudrura]

I think long term, this might be great, it is a little disheartening though. What do these terms look like? What other effects will we experience because of this in the coming months?

[Madri]

Interesting question that was posted on the EQ forum:

I wonder if Daybreak is doing this, in part, to take advantage of some of P99's zone files for running old zones on the progression server (i.e. EC/WC, Ro, FP)?

That would definitely be interesting and awesome for P99 to contribute in a way like that.

Or vice versa , get some help getting Velious running great for Project99! :D

[Tibbz]

If anything I'd say having a mention on the EQ daybreak site will help the pop and give us a bigger launch night in August :)

Hmm, you know i bet the servers will start to have a hike in population even now

[Nommie]

When P99 poses a threat against Live EQ...Daybreak will shut it down ..and then EQ will be ruined yet again..

[Halius]

Just speculation here, but does this agreement possibly put into the works moving P99 over to the actual Everquest servers? I would hate for sometime down the road have them launch P99 as an official EQ server and have to pay to play it like all other progression servers. I doubt this would happen, but now that they have an agreement I could see it being possible.

[JayN]

congrats to all parties??????????????

http://www.strasburger.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/goldenparachutes.jpg

[kaev]

This is good news, I think. Gratz! to Rogean, Nilbog, et al.

[Aeolwind]

Freaking awesome! Congratulations!

[Thulack]

So what other demands are going to be catered too for Daybreak? Velious pushed back, RnF cleaned up to make it look better on us(rather just have it deleted honestly). Maybe removed Red99? I mean we all know how that playerbase is.

[Littlegyno 13.0]

It’s been a busy year for Project 1999 and we have some exciting news we’ve been really anxious to share with all of you. As some of you may be aware, in the past there has been both confusion and concern over the status of Project 1999. We have recently entered into a written agreement with Daybreak Game Company LLC that formally recognizes Project 1999 as a fan based, not-for-profit, classic EverQuest emulation project. The agreement establishes the guidelines that we as a project must follow, but it will allow to us continue to update the game without risk of legal repercussions. As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks.

We would like to personally thank all the folks at Daybreak and acknowledge how awesome it is for a company to work with and embrace the creations of their fans. This is really something that’s unique in the gaming industry.

The Velious release has been rescheduled to the following dates:

Saturday, August 1st for the Project 1999 PvP Server.
Sunday, August 2nd for the Project 1999 PvE Server.

We would also like to sincerely apologize to those of you that have already established plans for a May release. We know many of you had scheduled time off from work and even planned parties or trips. I hope you can understand the importance and necessity of the decision we have made and we encourage those of you waiting in the meantime to enjoy the Daybreak Progression Server when it is released.

NOW WHAT ARE 12 DUDES FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES GONNA DO IN 3 HOTEL ROOMS TOGETHER?

YOU'VE JUST DOOMED US TO HOMOSEXUALITY.

[Ele]

NOW WHAT ARE 12 DUDES FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES GONNA DO IN 3 HOTEL ROOMS TOGETHER?

YOU'VE JUST DOOMED US TO HOMOSEXUALITY.

It was going to happen anyway.

[Portasaurus]

What is Daybreak's stance on EC Tunnel casino gambling?

Does this mean we can have casinos back?

Bring back EC Tunnel casinos!!

OMG THEY'RE BRINGING BACK EC TUNNEL CASINOS!!

[Masq]

good news and all, but now you can focus on the new progression server, right? right?

[Excision Rottun]

Hookers and blow.

[Silinius]

NOW WHAT ARE 12 DUDES FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES GONNA DO IN 3 HOTEL ROOMS TOGETHER?

YOU'VE JUST DOOMED US TO HOMOSEXUALITY.

Someone was going to turn sub during that sausage fest anyway... it may as well be you Littlegyno! Just bend over and take it like a man.

[Pokesan]

Very pleased to hear of this agreement, congratulations to all involved on both sides!

Looking forward to the prog server

[Zalaerian]

Hookers and blow.

This is all we have left now.

[MaSQue]

this is very interesting news actually hhhmmmmm

[Madri]

Someone was going to turn sub during that sausage fest anyway... it may as well be you Littlegyno! Just bend over and take it like a man.

This made me chuckle! Listen to Silinius he speaks from experience :p

[Oleris]

I called it. Your communication with Roshen during DBG's stream on Monday confirmed it for me. Between that, the PSA, and the increase in moderation I knew something was up

beta coming out in 2 weeks. rogean/sirken and other p1999 staff hanging out in the stream as well. Roshen answered a question from rogean as well. I think there might be some mutual code swapping or something bigger in the works for p1999 and the progression server.


http://i.imgur.com/MWB2B7L.jpg

[mgellan]

Wow very nice! wonder if they will now have a place to legitimately download a client now.

Yeah if they were smart they'd just make an ISO of the Titanium client with a P99 launcher and sell it for $20 - although that would kill their progression server so maybe not!

Regards,
Mg

[Silinius]

This made me chuckle! Listen to Silinius he speaks from experience :p

Truth!

[Sivaeb]

Nice!

[Edrick]

Daybreak is my favorite Everquest publisher.

[NutBustr13]

So what exactly does all this mean? And what is this progression server everyone keeps mentioning?

[Daldaen]

I feel somewhat bad for the nerds who took off Vacation for the launch.

Then again what kind of nerds take vacation for pixels??

[Hawala]

I just sold my FBSS for 6k!!!! FML

[Hawala]

Yeah if they were smart they'd just make an ISO of the Titanium client with a P99 launcher and sell it for $20 - although that would kill their progression server so maybe not!

Regards,
Mg

ORRRRR THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL CD FROM 1999.

[Ele]

So what exactly does all this mean? And what is this progression server everyone keeps mentioning?

Daybreak (SOE) is releasing a new live EQ time locked progression server in the coming weeks/months. It will require a subscription fee, but will eventually catch up to live EQ.

[Halius]

ORRRRR THE ACTUAL ORIGINAL CD FROM 1999.

^^ I have all the original CDs up through PoP. Wish I could use those here...

[Uuruk]

I feel somewhat bad for the nerds who took off Vacation for the launch.

Then again what kind of nerds take vacation for pixels??

What kind of people take golf vacations or other vacations involving hobbys. Such losers.

[Zade]

might have to release a new blue server for the incoming horde hoss

[Ele]

might have to release a new blue server for the incoming horde hoss

pras

[Reemer]

nice!

[Zade]

and name it after me

[Pint]

http://i.imgur.com/pr1tNYk.jpg

[maestrom]

Great news!

I'd be interested to see the agreement though.

[Tankdan]

I saw this suggestion on EQ Live forum:

Either P99 or EQLive should create a link for us to buy Everquest Titanium for like 5 or 10 bucks. In doing so this would support EQ for giving us the client, and itd give a legal place to purchase this non-existent client outside of file sharing sources.

[Man0warr]

P99 can't sell Titanium, but Daybreak could.

[fastboy21]

This has so much potential.

Nilbog and Rogean (and all the staff who made p99 a success) deserve a real congratulations.

This is unprecedented. I'm especially loving the fact that they could realistically turn to p99 as a source to help recreate classic EQ on live. Wow. Just wow.

From a hobbyist's point of view (loving EQ) this is just so cool...congrats guys.

[Tameth]

Pras

[Tankdan]

P99 can't sell Titanium, but Daybreak could.

You don't say

[Rec]

now we can all play the live progression server together!

[Swish]

now we can all play the live progression server together!

I can't decide whether to go with 2 accounts or 3.

[Bolix]

good news and well done to P1999 and DBG staff for reaching this agreement.
having the emu server regularised is a very good thing.

I may even sign up for the "official" progression server now.

Ideal world (for me) would be P1999 staff running a progression server all the way to catch up with live.
This would mean luclin / POP etc advancements, but with GMs running it who give the super level of service and attention to detail that makes P1999 so good a server.

I would def pay for P1999 GM mentality combined with official expansions

[NutBustr13]

Daybreak (SOE) is releasing a new live EQ time locked progression server in the coming weeks/months. It will require a subscription fee, but will eventually catch up to live EQ.

So what is going to happen with P99? I'm sure daybreak doesn't want something else competing with there "progression" server. Or are they going to be keeping P99 alive and well?

[Andurian]

P99 has been good for DBG, lots of free advertising for a game long considered dead. New progression server will no doubt bring back subs for them.

Smeg(I like this typo.. sorry Smed) and co have a good history dealing with emu's like SWGemu. As long as they're run well like swgemu and p99 (not like swg bloodfin) It's good for everyone.

[Ele]

So what is going to happen with P99? I'm sure daybreak doesn't want something else competing with there "progression" server. Or are they going to be keeping P99 alive and well?

The first post says...

"As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks."

[NutBustr13]

The first post says...

"As a show of good faith to support the efforts of Daybreak Games, we have decided to reschedule our expansion release as to not conflict with the upcoming new progression server being released in the coming weeks."

I understand that velious is being pushed back for p99 as to not interfere with daybreaks progression server release but if they are starting a progression server why even keep P99 around?

[WillyWillers]

I understand that velious is being pushed back for p99 as to not interfere with daybreaks progression server release but if they are starting a progression server why even keep P99 around?

Theirs won't be era correct. If you want "classic" P99 is still the best choice.

[Ele]

I understand that velious is being pushed back for p99 as to not interfere with daybreaks progression server release but if they are starting a progression server why even keep P99 around?

Because their progression will be nothing close to Classic.

[Elissa]

I understand that velious is being pushed back for p99 as to not interfere with daybreaks progression server release but if they are starting a progression server why even keep P99 around?

Because P99 is a unique experience that no progression server can equal, especially given all the modern updates they will have to endure/enjoy in spite of its "progression" status.

[Kilbur]

Jealous of anyone with as much free time in their lives to actually request work off for this.. It's almost like we are in high school again with no responsibilities... The good ol days..

[Swish]

P99 has been good for DBG, lots of free advertising for a game long considered dead. New progression server will no doubt bring back subs for them.

Smeg(I like this typo.. sorry Smed) and co have a good history dealing with emu's like SWGemu. As long as they're run well like swgemu and p99 (not like swg bloodfin) It's good for everyone.

Agree totally.

[NutBustr13]

Because their progression will be nothing close to Classic.

Thanks for clearing that up.

[NutBustr13]

Wonder if it will remain free and for how long

[PDX0621]

We know many of you had scheduled time off from work and even planned parties or trips.

My whole life is a lie.

[Sektor]

Congrats to everyone at the CSR staff, your hard work paid off.

[citizen1080]

Can you push Velious back to say...December? Why must you release it during the nicest parts of the year!

[Gapher]

Because their progression will be nothing close to Classic.

Mostly because who's going to pay money to play Kunark for 3 years.

[Ele]

Mostly because who's going to pay money to play Kunark for 3 years.

4 years*

and considering the amount of bans handed out for RMT, quite a few would

[WillyWillers]

Wonder if it will remain free and for how long

Daybreak Game Company LLC that formally recognizes Project 1999 as a fan based, not-for-profit, classic EverQuest emulation project.

Probably has too.

[Twonky]

Can a brotha get a guise of the deceiver for having to reschedule vacation days?

No? Cool.

Kudos fellas.

[atratusphere]

Congrats. I'm hoping this means that there will be some method for obtaining the required P1999 files all legit like, direct download from P1999 or Daybreak. Will be following these threads. Here's to hope.

[pharmakos]

I can't decide whether to go with 2 accounts or 3.

sarcasm? or is swish finally going to do some boxing?

[wormed]

Do we get to hear what this agreement entails?

[pharmakos]

Can you push Velious back to say...December? Why must you release it during the nicest parts of the year!

seconded

[Fael]

Disappointing but obviously a no brainer from a legal prospective.

Thank you. All things considered, we have a pretty good Staff here who doesn't get enough credit.

[Vincecross]

I think this is F'in Awesome, Good work Daybreak team and Thank you P99 Team, your work, sweat and frustrations are probably not as well known or respected as they should be. The work you have put forth is awesome and this is I think just the biggest accolade a fan based creation like yours can get. Bravo p99 team , Bravo.

[zanderklocke]

Cool

[oldhead]

I'd really like to get a peep at the agreement. I'm not a lawyer but negotiate contracts and agreements regularly n business. There is some catchy shit that can be tossed in the wording of you are not careful.

Not to be pessimistic tho. Overall this is holy shit good news for P1999 that its now recognized and legit.

[pharmakos]

Where are you seeing this, or are you trolling?

This is all I found:

https://www.everquest.com/news/project-1999-daybreak

"We’re proud that the EverQuest community is one of the most passionate and engaged groups of players in the gaming world. We’re glad we were able to reach an agreement with the team behind the fan-based, not-for-profit emulation project as they continue to share their love of EQ with many. "

obvious trolling. he didn't even capitalize the word "everquest" in the text he added.

[Sylexis]

Here's an idea, have Daybreak sell a cheap downloadable copy of Titanium.

They get money, we're still not for profit, win win!

:D

[Oleris]

pay 2 play p1999 confirmed


http://i.imgur.com/DcoMmdU.jpg

[Ele]

pay 2 play p1999 confirmed


http://i.imgur.com/DcoMmdU.jpg

"My take"

Although sub fee would help weed out old accounts

[citizen1080]

pay 2 play p1999 confirmed


http://i.imgur.com/DcoMmdU.jpg

https://media1.giphy.com/media/y0uSwyzNv8qWY/200.gif

[Sckrilla]

neato

[Voland]

I wonder if this also means that people who play both EQ Live and P99 are no longer breaking Daybreak TOS.

[Frudrura]

I think it is the end.

[Oleris]

I wonder if this also means that people who play both EQ Live and P99 are no longer breaking Daybreak TOS.

waiting for updated EULA

[andrew23]

I have to say this is encouraging. Many emu servers (from various games) go down for various reasons and it sucks. This is such a huge corner stone in P99's foundation, not only do we get the awesome "made by players for players" classic world, but also a little bit of legitimacy to show the server shouldn't be going anywhere anytime soon!

On another note, I would pay to play as long as the target audience stayed the same and people didn't get greedy. That's when planes of knowledge's show up.

https://tagn.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/crpok.jpg

[Luniz]

haha

[MoeslyGnomeWizard]

Ya I am also interested on how or if these "guidelines" are gonna effect the way the server operates :confused:
Still I am glad they have come to an agreement, but I hope it doesn't mean any drastic changes to our lovely server

[Grimjaw]

better make up for this with simmed repops
I feel bad for people who already took work vaca off
jesus
atleast the project will live on forever, keep up the good work

i pity the fools who base their life around an emulated version of a 16 year old elf game.

[Sweetbaby Jesus]

That's awesome news! Congratulations rogean, nilbog, and rest of the staff! Sucks about velious but still very cool. Pras 100% legal p99!

[Littlegyno 13.0]

http://i.imgur.com/tMNeHlp.jpg

[Zade]

LOL excellent post pal

[Big_Japan]

hahahahahahahaha

[Seiroth]

Well, Daybreak games just got themselves a fan. What a classy move on their part. I bet if Vanguard Saga of Heroes was running and part of the SOE hand over to Daybreak they would have handled it differently. Actually supported Vanguard or maybe just hand over the reigns to anyone wanting to run a fan based project.

This is the first time I've ever heard of a company taking this stance on a fan based project. Respect, Daybreak. Great news for P1999.

So now can we talk about P1999 on MMORPG.com? Now that its legitimized. MMORPG.com has a policy against talking about emu server games on their forums. I wonder if this changes that.

~Seiroth

[Blackmill]

Is the new progression server a p99 server or daybreak server?

[Aldon]

Is the new progression server a p99 server or daybreak server?

It's a DBG server.

[Blackmill]

So this will require some sort of subscription I am assuming? I read somewhere EQ is f2p but I don't ever trust that these days :O

[Aldon]

So this will require some sort of subscription I am assuming? I read somewhere EQ is f2p but I don't ever trust that these days :O

The TLP server does require a DBG All Access subscription. Project 1999, of course, does not.

[Blackmill]

Thank you - I found the FAQ on it :)

[Maelfyn]

Wow, that is amazing. I've never even heard of a deal like this. Congrats to both p1999 and Daybreak. I think Daybreak will buy a lot of community goodwill with this move.

[Ennewi]

Congrats to the p99 staff and class move by Daybreak imo. Also, Velious delayed until August? Well damn, I might not actually miss its release now. /cheer

[Beastro]

Hell I'd welcome P99 being bought out if only for this crew to gain more manpower to make patching more than a semi annual matter.

[Seiroth]

Well I just subscribed to an SOE all access pass out of respect for the admirable decision Daybreak Games has made here and the respect they've shown to P1999 as a fan-based labor of love based on a beloved IP of theirs. I think it's only fair that as long as they continue to support P1999 that they get some money from me, if I'm playing P1999. Sure P1999 did all the work to make P1999 a reality, and they also get my money, but Daybreak has done something here I've never even heard of. That is deserving of something for sure.

Kudos!

[gojita69]

This is classy as hell. good job p99 team and DBG

[Lev_Mer]

Congratulations! to everyone

[Ashikabi]

I think we should get double exp weekends until August...

[blondeattk]

You gonna release some custom content now. to ease the strain on folk who are sick of kunark?!

...or at least do some gm events(properly) for one not like the unkillable gods event.

It nice you get to pop some champagne corks, but shower the playerbase some of the goodwill also. [double exp for a bit?]

[Rararboker]

I'm not sure why this happened and I don't have time to read 17 pages of replies, short as they are. Is there something in it for p99? As far as I understood emulators (in general) have come under fire before and been protected by courts, which should have set a precedence which would protect p99 if DBG ever tried anything litigation wise?

Seems like, if anything, opening velious before the official progression server would have been a way to prove that p99 has something genuine and valuable. Not to mention a sort of 'told you so'. But whatever.

[blondeattk]

One step toward listing emulation servers with official ones to let all players enjoy them without having to find the client illegally.

thats probably a fluffy dream, but is a warm and fuzzy one.....servers could pay a fee to get listed....with the client downloadable from daybreak for a fee.

everyone wins that way ?!

[Clark]

better make up for this with simmed repops
I feel bad for people who already took work vaca off
jesus
atleast the project will live on forever, keep up the good work

We already have WAY too many sim repops/flooded rare items.

You guys should have been around for 2009-2011.

[Clark]

NOW WHAT ARE 12 DUDES FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES GONNA DO IN 3 HOTEL ROOMS TOGETHER?

YOU'VE JUST DOOMED US TO HOMOSEXUALITY.

LOL

[BuzWeaver]

Congrats. You guys have certainly done a lot to make P99 an amazing experience for players wanting to recapture the original feel of the game. Its quite impressive work and I wish you guys all the best.

[Vega]

http://i.imgur.com/pr1tNYk.jpg

It may look like they're giving in, but I think a little good will goes a long way. There's no need to call names.



;)

[oldhead]

Just speculation here, but does this agreement possibly put into the works moving P99 over to the actual Everquest servers? I would hate for sometime down the road have them launch P99 as an official EQ server and have to pay to play it like all other progression servers. I doubt this would happen, but now that they have an agreement I could see it being possible.

Id be all for it.. Id be allowed to two box!!! Ports! All the ports I can take for $30 a month!!!

[feanan]

It would be interesting to see the written agreement, so we could all have an exact understanding as to what is actually occurring here.

[Doors]

It would be interesting to see the written agreement, so we could all have an exact understanding as to what is actually occurring here.

[Dollar]

Since velious is August, can you remove hybrid xp penalty as a show of good faith?

[Ele]

Since velious is August, can you remove hybrid xp penalty as a show of good faith?

Still Kunark, no.

[Ele]

The conspiracy theories are THICK today.

[kaev]

The conspiracy theories are THICK today.

Gonna have to serrate our tinfoil blades to cut thru them!

[waldo]

Hmmm may be a stupid question, but will this change our accounts. Will we still use eqemulator accounts?

[Ele]

Hmmm may be a stupid question, but will this change our accounts. Will we still use eqemulator accounts?

Nothing has changed based on what has been announced; besides the risk of P99 being shutdown going away.

[Rogean]

Hey all,

I wanted to thank you guys for the positive response we've seen about this. I understand the frustration regarding vacation time, as I'm among those who had put in for time off from work too!

I know many of you are asking for details regarding the agreement. Unfortunately, as is typically normal regarding these types of deals, we are limited with what we can divulge.

I will tell you that we do not currently have any plans to change anything about the operation of the server. This also means that we do not currently have any plans to distribute a full version of the client.

Thanks for your understanding.

Rog

[khanable]

pras

[Swish]

Can you push Velious back to say...December? Why must you release it during the nicest parts of the year!

December 4th or close would be classic ;)

[Omnifiend]

This is huge, if you look at it on way..we could have had velious and then a month later total server shutdown. So this is good, anyway you look at it. Hopefully people can rework their velious plans.

[Kaezyr D`Shiv]

Jealous of anyone with as much free time in their lives to actually request work off for this.. It's almost like we are in high school again with no responsibilities... The good ol days..

I know right!

[Dollar]

Agreed. I generally use vacation for sick kids or the occasional Disney world vacation from hell.

[Goldrock]

I was excited as well i guess ill be taking a break till august lol

[Goldrock]

And i hope daybreak doesnt find away to sneak in and snipe the server or merge it into their actual game plans that would spell the end of p99.But i guess with the daybreak breaking off of the soe brand makes it easier to coexist because sony are the ones who were greedy as all hell.

[krforrester]

I have been a licensed attorney for over 25 years and I hope P99 had their legal counsel review the agreement before signing. Contrary to what many are posting here, just because P99 "has an agreement" doesn't mean they are now in a better position.

Just my 2 cents. Carry on.

[pink grapefruit]

Would be nice if duck cancelling spells could become a thing on red sometime soon. Red/blue equality imo. Discrimination is wrong :(

[quido]

Become independently wealthy and you can do whatever you want almost every day.

I hope you plebs work yourselves to death and never get to play velious.

[Grimjaw]

I was excited as well i guess ill be taking a break till august lol

read: ill be levelling my 5th alt to 60

[Goraxx]

Pras big Rogean and crew. The possibilities of this agreement are endless.

[dealicious]

Thank you for answering us, Rogean! Appreciate your time and effort bro! Congratulation still!

[Swish]

Would be nice if duck cancelling spells could become a thing on red sometime soon. Red/blue equality imo. Discrimination is wrong :(

Duck cancel isn't classic on blue I believe at this point in the timeline?

It's one of those blue luxuries, or if we did go past that patch where it's meant to be in...blue certainly enjoyed it for longer than it should have :)

[myriverse]

Congrats to everyone on the P99 team. After years of operating with a constant fear of retaliation from SOE/Daybreak (even if that fear wasn't terribly likely to be realized), you can now finally relax and stop worrying about the most terrifying monster of all: the lawyer. :D

/cheer
It's a trap!

[LostCause]

noicee glad they moved this to august.

[Nother]

Great news Rogean, finally recognised for your efforts. I played on live from 1999, left at dodh... thanks to p1999 i was able to re-live the classic eq. now i am back on live and eagerly awaiting the new progression server :) once you get Velious out i will be back and to p1999.

i can only see good things for both streams... people will play on both feeling more at ease... i hope it makes both DBG and P1999 live long and prosper

Thanks from ZedZ

[Smedy]

awesome, thanks staff! i for one wasn't very excited to see velious release mid summer.

[Laugher]

Pras Big Rog, Nilbog

So my only question about this deal is this: does this mean that you guys are legally going to be able to "patch" the client now (ie higher res classic ui, or adjustments for classicness)? Or does this just confirm everything's gravy between you two?

In either case grats guys on big things :D

[Connecticut]

No more legal bullshit hanging over your head!?
I know rogean will sleep sound tonight!

This is really big news for P99, well worth the velious delay.

[waffel]

Wait, people honestly take time off of work to sit home and play video games? That can't be right...

[Itap]

Wait, people honestly take time off of work to sit home and play video games? That can't be right...

Do not underestimate the love for this game.

Have you seen some of these signatures of posters, Clark for instance. 8 level 60's

Respect

[Uuruk]

Would be amazing if this was absorbed and had a monthly fee. We could get a lot more servers and no doubt would be the most popular servers.

[Dollar]

Conspiracy Theory: I bet p99 had to agree not to create a progression server that would reset every 3 years or so.

[fadetree]

Sounds good, short term dissapoint, long term all good.

[Grobb 1999]

Would be amazing if this was absorbed and had a monthly fee. We could get a lot more servers and no doubt would be the most popular servers.

"Had a monthly fee" ...........

Wtf would be amazing about that? Go back to live plz

[AndyErik]

but it will allow to us continue to update the game
Will this agreement give you more freedom to create custom content as well?
Does this mean that we are closer to being able to update & patch the titanium client?
Any exchange of source code planned?

[Ele]

"Had a monthly fee" ...........

Wtf would be amazing about that? Go back to live plz

People would be forced to either really support the server by paying $50-200 in sub fees each month for all the accounts they play or it would greatly reduce the amount of accounts accessible in the end game.

Over the last 5 years, most people just made a brand new account for each new character they made since there was no cost to making a new account besides setting up an email address. A lot of people in the end game have 3-6 accounts with some having 10+ just for themselves. Then there are the shared raiding accounts, the inactive shared/gifted accounts, the tracking accounts, and people's mule accounts.

Because there are no monthly fees, characters never die and are always accessible unless they get banned.

[Grobb 1999]

People would be forced to either really support the server by paying $50-200 in sub fees each month for all the accounts they play or it would greatly reduce the amount of accounts accessible in the end game.

Over the last 5 years, most people just made a brand new account for each new character they made since there was no cost to making a new account besides setting up an email address. A lot of people in the end game have 3-6 accounts with some having 10+ just for themselves. Then there are the shared raiding accounts, the inactive shared/gifted accounts, the tracking accounts, and people's mule accounts.

Because there are no monthly fees, characters never die and are always accessible unless they get banned.

So people should pay a fee because poopsockers have multiple accounts for free -rolls eyes- forgot this was the interwebs, carry on genius

[Ele]

So people should pay a fee because poopsockers have multiple accounts for free -rolls eyes- forgot this was the interwebs, carry on genius

Yes.

[TheLieka]

Great work Rogean. This is a truly impressive development.

<3,
Stiles

[Corpsed]

Great news, thanks for the update.

[Arclanz]

And there was much rejoicing.

Talking with my friends in the past; I mentioned how great it would be if the VC who bought SOE would reach out and work with the P1999 folks. So happy to hear this; bravo to the P1999 team for their hard work and accomplishments.

Though I've spent very little time on P1999 over the years, I sleep better at night knowing it's out there. The only true EQ experience for those of us who practically lived in Norrath near the turn of the millennium.

Bravo.

[Uuruk]

So people should pay a fee because poopsockers have multiple accounts for free -rolls eyes- forgot this was the interwebs, carry on genius

No we should pay a monthly fee to show support for this fucking free game you have been playing.

[Roguejm11]

Although I am very disappointed that I will not see Velious for 3 more months, it is very cool Daybreak has recognized P99 and its Dev's for all that they have done for EQ and the experience.

I look forward to possibly more Beta testing with my guild, as I continue to work toward level 60.

[pharmakos]

Conspiracy Theory: I bet p99 had to agree not to create a progression server that would reset every 3 years or so.

oh shit

[Ravager]

Very cool. Grats P99!

[Nolrog]

This also means that we do not currently have any plans to distribute a full version of the client.


This is disappointing for me. I've had an account for ages, but could never get a copy of titanium to be able to play (I don't trust downloading it from that Arrrrgh site.) Getting the client more accessible (download either here or from the DBG site) would go a long way to getting people like me into the game.

[Fustercluck]

Wow that's awesome, congrats to everyone who has been working on this fantastic eq server for the past....5yrs I believe. Hope to be around for another 5...or 10 :)

[Rararboker]

This is disappointing for me. I've had an account for ages, but could never get a copy of titanium to be able to play (I don't trust downloading it from that Arrrrgh site.) Getting the client more accessible (download either here or from the DBG site) would go a long way to getting people like me into the game.

Pretty irrational fear. But that is your choice.

[Haynar]

This is disappointing for me. I've had an account for ages, but could never get a copy of titanium to be able to play (I don't trust downloading it from that Arrrrgh site.) Getting the client more accessible (download either here or from the DBG site) would go a long way to getting people like me into the game.
I am sure if you have made any contacts while playing eq, someone has a copy you could borrow. I have 3 copies sitting on my shelf. 2 copies 2001 trilogy. Platinum, evolution, darn near every hard copy release since 2001.

Ask around. Nerds are everywhere.

H

[Grimjaw]

I am sure if you have made any contacts while playing eq, someone has a copy you could borrow. I have 3 copies sitting on my shelf. 2 copies 2001 trilogy. Platinum, evolution, darn near every hard copy release since 2001.

Ask around. Nerds are everywhere.

H

can you loan me evolution bro? i cant find it

[buffmagnum]

When will we have a new server? One with no boxing just the same as p99. Poll how many would pay to play?

[Grimjaw]

not till a few months into velious, atleast (circa dec 2016)

[Nolrog]

Pretty irrational fear. But that is your choice.

Not irrational at all. Someone sent me a link to download it, when I saved it to my hard drive, the virus program immediately popped up and said it was infected.

[Ele]

Not irrational at all. Someone sent me a link to download it, when I saved it to my hard drive, the virus program immediately popped up and said it was infected.

You won't be able to play then even if you find and purchase a copy of Titanium because of the .dll you are required to use for P99, which sets off a number of virus scanners.

[will11750]

Not irrational at all. Someone sent me a link to download it, when I saved it to my hard drive, the virus program immediately popped up and said it was infected.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_positives_and_false_negatives

Just because your anti-virus flags it doesn't necessarily mean it is actually is full of malware.

Most anti-virus programs these days are pretty awful at actually detecting real threats anyway.

[Ac888]

LOL @ those who actually took time off work for this.

[Swish]

LOL @ those who actually took time off work for this.

EQ is srs buzness! I feel bad for Gyno and anyone else who took the time off for it but if it saves the server it's good to keep Daybreak on side :)

[Seltius]

LOL @ those who actually took time off work for this.

WTF I went out on disability with a wrist injury for this... Now what will I tell them?!
















jk

[Rararboker]

Not irrational at all. Someone sent me a link to download it, when I saved it to my hard drive, the virus program immediately popped up and said it was infected.

What is your virus program? If you name one of the dumb ones, then yes, it was irrational and you are likely computer illiterate. I'm an IT specialist and my download was clean as a whistle. You can even check the MD5 checksum when downloading these things to make sure nothing was added or tampered with.

Plus, get a real antivirus software. Also, when downloading from the arrghh place, you click the magnet link. You do NOT download any files from the site itself. If you did, you were probably clicking on an advertisement, not the real link. Download Adblock so you don't see those sort of things.

[Nolrog]

What is your virus program? If you name one of the dumb ones, then yes, it was irrational and you are likely computer illiterate. I'm an IT specialist and my download was clean as a whistle. You can even check the MD5 checksum when downloading these things to make sure nothing was added or tampered with.

Plus, get a real antivirus software. Also, when downloading from the arrghh place, you click the magnet link. You do NOT download any files from the site itself. If you did, you were probably clicking on an advertisement, not the real link. Download Adblock so you don't see those sort of things.

Wow, attacking my anti-virus before you even find out what it is.

I use AVG. I didn't download from that place, as I mentioned, someone sent me a link directly to the place to get it. I tried from there and it AVG came up with a problem. Maybe I'm no IT specialist, but when my anti-virus comes up with a flag, that worries me. Even if it's not a real antivirus. I won't be downloading it from anywhere, unless it was here or DBG, or I could find a physical copy for a reasonable price.

[BrandeX]

Again mostly irrelevant. The .dll files required to play on this server will set off your antivirus program, so in that respect as you mentioned, you will never be able to play.

[Grimjaw]

simply exclude or flag dsetup.dll as a safe file (open your antivirus program and find the spot in there to do that)

[Babayaaga]

Just to understand this more clearly, is it true that someone at SoE released a version of the server code to the creative commons sometime in or around 2009? Is this also the reason why we must use a specific version of the client (e.g. titanium)?

My understanding is that due to several "holes" in the server code that was released, developers have to use old log files, a lot of guesswork (not to mention time investment), to release new content and fix existing bugs, etc. That said, does this announcement mean there will be more cooperation in terms of providing missing data, and if so, specifically to P99, EQEMU, and/or the entire EMU community potentially? What does this mean for users and game clients?

In a nutshell, is Daybreak endorsing EQEMU, or P99 specifically as an orphan work from a copyright perspective, or is this something else?

Fascinating stuff!

[Giopawa]

Congratulations! This is a very big step! Super excited for the servers progression!

[Goldrock]

Just to understand this more clearly, is it true that someone at SoE released a version of the server code to the creative commons sometime in or around 2009? Is this also the reason why we must use a specific version of the client (e.g. titanium)?

My understanding is that due to several "holes" in the server code that was released, developers have to use old log files, a lot of guesswork (not to mention time investment), to release new content and fix existing bugs, etc. That said, does this announcement mean there will be more cooperation in terms of providing missing data, and if so, specifically to P99, EQEMU, and/or the entire EMU community potentially? What does this mean for users and game clients?

In a nutshell, is Daybreak endorsing EQEMU, or P99 specifically as an orphan work from a copyright perspective, or is this something else?

Fascinating stuff!

I think titanium was the last set of game dics with the original client before eqlive changed over to all the revamped stuff.Thats why i think we can only use that client.

[Swish]

P99 did support the Secrets of Faydwer client way back, they don't anymore... not sure what problems that caused.

[webrunner5]

Wow, attacking my anti-virus before you even find out what it is.

I use AVG. I didn't download from that place, as I mentioned, someone sent me a link directly to the place to get it. I tried from there and it AVG came up with a problem. Maybe I'm no IT specialist, but when my anti-virus comes up with a flag, that worries me. Even if it's not a real antivirus. I won't be downloading it from anywhere, unless it was here or DBG, or I could find a physical copy for a reasonable price.

Me thinks you need to just go play WoW. Your just coming off as some paranoid crazy person on here. :eek: AVG, yeah really.

Rararboker is the good guy, not your enemy like you think.

[Rararboker]

Wow, attacking my anti-virus before you even find out what it is.

I use AVG. I didn't download from that place, as I mentioned, someone sent me a link directly to the place to get it. I tried from there and it AVG came up with a problem. Maybe I'm no IT specialist, but when my anti-virus comes up with a flag, that worries me. Even if it's not a real antivirus. I won't be downloading it from anywhere, unless it was here or DBG, or I could find a physical copy for a reasonable price.

AVG? Your definitely trolling me. And I fell for it. =[ Shame on me.

I'd suggest googling md5 checksum. You will understand my post much better once you do that. But you not downloading it doesn't hurt any of us and the way your acting, it probably is a good thing for all of us.

I love all my nerd breathren and just wish to help you enjoy p99 in all its glory. Except the bronies, they are an abomination unto this Earth, they can go away and never return.

[fishingme]

AVG is a virus. Just like Itunes.

[Rararboker]

It really is.

[citizen1080]

People still run antivirus? I haven't run AV for 10+ years...gotten maybe 2 virus's in all that time. I will tell you the secret to not wasting money and ram on shitty AV software.

Don't click on stupid shit

[pharmakos]

ITT: we find out bob doesn't watch porn.

[Swish]

True, I'd never buy Norton or any of the others. Shit's fine til it expires, then you get problems and hassle and end up paying for another year to make it go away.

Plus wasn't it found that antivirus companies were making viruses a few years back? No shit sherlock, who'd have thought :rolleyes:

[Rararboker]

Swish and Citizen are correct here.

Learn how to browse the internet properly and viruses are actually quite hard to contract. Also, if you do get one, there is a program called combo fix. Updated daily, cost nothing and it works wonders. Research it. Use it. Love it.

[Tehwoot]

guess ill try and cancel that vacation request...

[Rogean]

Just to understand this more clearly, is it true that someone at SoE released a version of the server code to the creative commons sometime in or around 2009?

No. To my knowledge there has never been a leak of any server side code from SOE or Daybreak. Project 1999 was forked from EQEmulator in 2009, which had already been through atleast 5 or 6 years of development at that point.

[Smilkers]

some big news for p99.
congrats guys! thanks for all the time and effort you put into making this server good enough for Daybreak. wow.

however, I would be very sad if this leads to P99 becoming pay-to-play.

[Nietche]

Swish and Citizen are correct here.

Learn how to browse the internet properly and viruses are actually quite hard to contract. Also, if you do get one, there is a program called combo fix. Updated daily, cost nothing and it works wonders. Research it. Use it. Love it.

Not sure if combo fix works for 8.1. Hope so soon.

[Frudrura]

I don't think I would mind pay-to-play, I just wouldn't want any type of pay-to-win things.