Consider Project 2002

[DeathWalking]

It's pretty great. The client is older so it's actually era appropriate, and the people are exceedingly helpful and friendly. The pop is still kinda low, but it's on the rise.


Now, before you say "wahhh it allows boxing" there are some things you should know. The max number of toons boxed is 3, so theres no full party/raid being controlled by one neckbeard stealing up all the pixels, and automation isnt allowed. Ever seen a small herd of wizards all casting the same spell at the same time? that's automation. 1 key, 1 action, 1 toon. basically youre allowed to use a screen switcher, but nothing more intricate, so players (not software) are playing the other toons. And if you dont want to box, don't box. Only want to dual box? only dual box.


It's super easy to get set up, only took me about 5 minutes to get in-game once i had downloaded the client. no install needed, you just extract the zip to your C drive and run the game.


NOW HERE'S THE REAL GAME CHANGER
No handholding GMs giving out preferential treatment to their real life pals, no welfare pixels, and legit player controlled raiding. The GMs arent going to get involved, and based on the community, that responsibility being given to the players is very well deserved. Everyone I've encountered is mature and respectable, and probably has more going for them in life than VP gear.


Not only that, but you can look forward to actual progression on this server. Right now all the classic content is in-game (plus quests and such that came with luclin and PoP to classic zones/cities). Kunark will be dropping soon, and they actually mean soon. No waiting years after they say it's on the way like some other emu servers. PoK is up and running. Iksar and moon cats are playable and their starting areas are up, so if you want to be a reptile or a furry you can.




If anyone is interested in trying it out, shoot me a PM and i'll get you a link to the client download and help you get set up.

[DeathWalking]

Actually, dont PM me because I probably wont see it. Got pixels to get on the other server.

P2002 forums: http://p2002.com/forums/

P2002 game account creation: http://p2002.com/#/ (once youre logged in with your forum acount)

PC/Mac client download links: http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[DeathWalking]

Ignore the instructions on the forum where it says to install titanium, then move the resources folder from eqmac ect.


unzip that shit to your C drive and run eqw.exe. bam. youre in.

[Uteunayr]

Can this thread be moved to RNF? It seems like it really wants to be on RNF.

[Swish]

I would, but I'd meet 3 boxers everywhere who won't want to talk to other people on the internet.

[DeathWalking]

Can this thread be moved to RNF? It seems like it really wants to be on RNF.

But it doesnt have to do with p99, so it would be moved FROM RnF, not to.



If it seems like it should be there, its just because das how i tawk

[Orruar]

It's a good server. Old world is so boring though. Can't wait for Kunark.

[Namfoodle]

If you need a hand getting started on this server hit me up in-game on Javvo, or any character starting with Jav really (tons of alts). I have some platinum for new people and I'm down to PL if we both have about an hour or so free to get it done. Feel free to send me a PM on the p2002 boards to actually schedule a PL that way both of our time isn't wasted (having a bard/mage/wiz for pbaoe in your 3-box would greatly expidite this process).

[DeathWalking]

If you need a hand getting started on this server hit me up in-game on Javvo, or any character starting with Jav really (tons of alts). I have some platinum for new people and I'm down to PL if we both have about an hour or so free to get it done. Feel free to send me a PM on the p2002 boards to actually schedule a PL that way both of our time isn't wasted (having a bard/mage/wiz for pbaoe in your 3-box would greatly expidite this process).

Hey Javvo, thanks again for the help last night man. i'll be online a little later today

[Haynar]

There is a thread about p2002 still on the first page of this forum.

Why make another one?

H

[DeathWalking]

There is a thread about p2002 still on the first page of this forum.

Why make another one?

H

first is advertizing it, this one is verifying that it's worth trying, elaborating a bit on how easy it is to get started, and how boxing doesnt mean 1 man raids autofiring.


also all the resource links for getting started were spread through that last post so i consolidated them.

[Champion_Standing]

Is this for real

[DeathWalking]

Is this for real

Its for real bro. get your tights and tunic and get online. if you need more info, or if youre having trouble with setup, send me a PM

[DeathWalking]

also unsure why haynar is so worried about 2 posts in off-topic about this server. there are like 12 about ragefire but he has no beef with those.

[loramin]

wahhh it allows boxing

Pretty much that: without boxing this server sounds almost like my perfect server ("almost" because my perfect server would be based on the P99 codebase for the first three expansion, but obviously that will never happen).

[DeathWalking]

the boxing rule might change once the population gets higher, who knows. and you dont have to box if you dont want to. if theres a full party with 2 people 3 boxing, you can rest assured that someone will be more than willing to drop a box to include you.


Its so classic right now though that i actually felt spoiled by p99's not classic 'classic' mechanics

[Namfoodle]

also unsure why haynar is so worried about 2 posts in off-topic about this server. there are like 12 about ragefire but he has no beef with those.

I can see your point and his man. This *is* p99's boards and they're being nice enough to allow to advertise another server on here. I don't want people to think we're shit stirrer's on p2002, just some dudes looking to enjoy (eventual) PoP-era EQ.

If a mod wanted to consolidate the threads I'd understand the reasoning, but like I said I also see why you made this one. Just my 2cp

[DeathWalking]

yeah, not trying to put a stick about, just trying to make it easier and more consolidated for anyone who might be interested in trying it out.

[DeathWalking]

check it out!
http://popcultureblog.dallasnews.com/files/2014/07/CheckItOut.jpg

[Swish]

also unsure why haynar is so worried about 2 posts in off-topic about this server. there are like 12 about ragefire but he has no beef with those.

Plenty of moderators floating about anyway to fix it if its a problem.

[Breeziyo]

I liked the server when I played on it, but I hate fucking with the mac client on windows.

[Champion_Standing]

Its for real bro. get your tights and tunic and get online. if you need more info, or if youre having trouble with setup, send me a PM

Ordering this tunic (https://www.etsy.com/listing/97592905/discounted-price-sale-bowman-archer?ga_order=most_relevant&ga_search_type=all&ga_view_type=gallery&ga_search_query=elven%20tunic&ref=sr_gallery_2) and some tights to go with it will be ready to play when it gets here.

[wormed]

Don't like boxing and what does P2002 do better than P99? Is P2002 going to go to PoP or what? Otherwise, I don't understand why I'd play there over here.

[Wharhog]

P2002 is going to PoP, and won't be stuck in expansions for multiple years at a time.

[Taryth]

Don't like boxing and what does P2002 do better than P99? Is P2002 going to go to PoP or what? Otherwise, I don't understand why I'd play there over here.

Classic features such as a lack of tab targeting. Try being an effective Enchanter without tab targeting. No scrolling out to third person, only the ghetto F9 cam views, which are hardly comparable. You cannot see the exact amount of mana you have, only the percentage. There are lots of things that TakP/Project2002 have which are vastly more classic than P99.

P99 has slightly slower xp gain, a larger community, easier access, an easy economy to break into after years of farming have over-saturated the market, and doesn't have global /ooc. To each their own.

[wormed]

Classic features such as a lack of tab targeting. Try being an effective Enchanter without tab targeting. No scrolling out to third person, only the ghetto F9 cam views, which are hardly comparable. You cannot see the exact amount of mana you have, only the percentage. There are lots of things that TakP/Project2002 have which are vastly more classic than P99.

P99 has slightly slower xp gain, a larger community, easier access, an easy economy to break into after years of farming have over-saturated the market, and doesn't have global /ooc. To each their own.

And no boxing. Which is huge to me, and many, no matter how you want to spin it.

[Taryth]

And no boxing. Which is huge to me, and many, no matter how you want to spin it.

I didn't try to spin it. You asked what P2002 does better than P1999.

Boxing, btw, is classic.

[Paleman]

boxing was called dual wielding back in da day

[loramin]

Boxing, btw, is classic.

No, it wasn't, or at least not in any way an emulated server can reproduce. On live to box you had to:


have multiple physical computers
pay $15 per boxed account
have an internet connection with enough bandwidth


No one in the classic era ever had even a single free account, let alone 2+, and even if they were willing to pay for extra accounts they couldn't use them from the same computer because the client could only handle one instance (you could run multiple instances by using EQW, but that was a banned 3rd-party program). And even if you did have 2x accounts and 2x computers, you needed a (at the time very pricey) ISDN or DSL line, or you needed multiple phone lines/ISP accounts.

So, paying $30+ a month, having two computers, and paying out the nose for an internet connection that could handle both of them was classic; everything else isn't.

[Taryth]

No, it wasn't, or at least not in any way an emulated server can reproduce. On live to box you had to:


have multiple physical computers
pay $15 per boxed account
have an internet connection with enough bandwidth


No one in the classic era ever had even a single free account, let alone 2+, and even if they were willing to pay for extra accounts they couldn't use them from the same computer because the client could only handle one instance (you could run multiple instances by using EQW, but that was a banned 3rd-party program). And even if you did have 2x accounts and 2x computers, you needed a (at the time very pricey) ISDN or DSL line, or you needed multiple phone lines/ISP accounts.

So, paying $30+ a month, having two computers, and paying out the nose for an internet connection that could handle both of them was classic; everything else isn't.

Nonetheless, it is something which has always existed. You not being able to afford it at the time does not represent everyone else.

[Taryth]

It wasn't $15/month back in the day, either. Not that such a detail is truly relevant ;)

[loramin]

Nonetheless, it is something which has always existed. You not being able to afford it at the time does not represent everyone else.

First off, I did box in the classic era (using a friend's accounts/gaming center computers), so it has nothing to do with what I could/couldn't afford at the time. The point is, boxing in the classic era was extremely rare, because it required significant financial hardship (or rare shared resources like a computer gaming center with a community of EQ players willing to let others use their account).

A server full of three-boxers isn't in any way classic, nor will it ever be. You can say "boxing is classic" all you want, but by definition EQ Emulator boxing will always be un-paid and thus un-classic (even if you ignore factors like needing multiple computers/expensive internet).

P.S. I don't mean to pass any sort of judgement on boxing; it's not right or wrong, it's just different. My only point is that on live the cost was a key limiting factor, and that limiting factor was an essential part of making a server "classic". There's a reason why Project 1999, the most classic server ever made (since 2000 at least), bans boxing.

[loramin]

It wasn't $15/month back in the day, either. Not that such a detail is truly relevant ;)

Ok, you do have a point there; couldn't remember what EQ used to cost per month. Was it $9.99?

[BossThunderace]

Ohh classic this classic that, I'm making a post from my iPhone! Not classic :/

[BossThunderace]

P2002 is an awesome server and I'm sure p1999 is fun for some folks to. Reminds me of a saying, different strokes for different folks. If you want to be on a server where the economy is over saturated that's your choice, if you want to be on a server that has a fresh economy and will end in the PoP era.. That's your choice! P2002 runs nice, and the small community there is awesome! I don't know much about blue on p99 but from what I hear, I don't understand how playing with lv1 epic twinks would be fun. To each his own

[Orruar]

Regardless of which server has more "classic" mechanics, 4 years of Kunark has wrecked P99 to the point where it certainly doesn't feel anywhere near as classic as it did when Kunark launched.

As far as boxing goes, our server had dozens of 2/3 boxers on live during Velious-PoP. One guy even ran a 6-box team. Boxing was a pretty common part of the game during this era. It was probably more rare in classic-Kunark, but that era is just about over on P99 and will be over soon enough on P02.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Isn't P2002 where the butthurt A&H guys ran off to once they realized TAKP GMs weren't going to play favorites? Are they really the ones you want running a server that you play on?

I'm not trying to be cute, it's got sleeper server 2.0 written all over it.

[Wharhog]

P2002 forked from Takp to produce faster, more complete (database) content....toward the ultimate goal of getting to PoP. P2002 and Takp work together and share code...Takp does the majority of server code and P2002 does the quest scripting. Kunark will be released in June on P2002.

[Haynar]

P2002 forked from Takp to produce faster, more complete (database) content....toward the ultimate goal of getting to PoP. P2002 and Takp work together and share code...Takp does the majority of server code and P2002 does the quest scripting. Kunark will be released in June on P2002.

It's one of those Love/Hate relationships.

Which is better? Dunno. Will they both still be around in 5 years? Dunno.

I know they cant get along. But they really need to work something out.

At this point, I think they need to merge to a common login server. That way when ppl get on, they have a choice between the two servers. And that would give others the opportunity to have servers too.

Every new takp/p2002 server having their own login server seems redundant.

H

[apio]

I personally think we need both servers, the folks on tak have made it very clear they only want to cater to casual players, project 2002 covers a different demographic. We also have a hands off approach when it comes to player disputes which is quite frankly the complete opposite of tak.

[Haynar]

I personally think we need both servers, the folks on tak have made it very clear they only want to cater to casual players, project 2002 covers a different demographic. We also have a hands off approach when it comes to player disputes which is quite frankly the complete opposite of tak.
I don't know enough about p2002 to give an opinion.

I do know we are talking about a small population of users/players/devs. If you cannot work ur way around differing opinions. Both servers are doomed to never sustain a measurable population.

H

[BossThunderace]

I don't know enough about p2002 to give an opinion.

I do know we are talking about a small population of users/players/devs. If you cannot work ur way around differing opinions. Both servers are doomed to never sustain a measurable population.

H

No need to server bash here..

When p2002 releases content in a timely manner, spending less than five years in Kunark, all will be well in Norrath.

If you want to play on a server with a PoP era - TRUE Live experience - hands off GM policy. P2002 is for you.

[DeathWalking]

i feel like haynar might feel threatened.

[Orruar]

Played both and the P2002 staff seemed more reasonable and friendly. The takp devs seemed kind of rude and hostile. Never really know long-term though. Hopefully they keep up with their proposed schedule of expansion releases. It would be quite a breath of fresh air to have a server at Velious - PoP where you can actually raid stuff without needing to register your phone number to receive text messages at 4am.

[kingbuzzo]

i might actually try this man. How long has it been out?

[Orruar]

Launched in like Feb.

[Haynar]

I am taking a neutral position here. But keep it up and I will move this thread to RnF, so people can express themselves more freely.

I have encouraged the takp and p2002 teams to try and work together more.

Threatened? Code I have contributed is used on takp and p2002. Whatever.

H

[apio]

AFAIK there are already collaborations and I think thats as far as it will go. I don't subscribe to the gloom and doom theories about the servers dying without us merging or working together more.

As for moving this to rants and flames, this is clearly off topic since it doesn't pertain to P99, just like all the ragefire posts that were moved here from rants and flames.

[DeathWalking]

i might actually try this man. How long has it been out?

launched not too long ago. you should definitely come try it out man. kunark is dropping next month, too



and the mods dont try to flex on you.

[DeathWalking]

As for moving this to rants and flames, this is clearly off topic since it doesn't pertain to P99, just like all the ragefire posts that were moved here from rants and flames.

and my habitat for humanity post that was very clearly a rant.

[Haynar]

What keeps me from trying p2002? Another freaking set of accounts/passwords. Its very annoying to keep track of all this crap without writing it down.

Very dumb. But password security is important. And I don't know who to trust.

I would rather the whole login server be hosted by the main eqemu project.

H

[DeathWalking]

>admits to not knowing enough about it to have an opinion. states hes staying neutral

> has an opinion, isnt neutral


if you dont want to try it, haynar, dont try it. but it seems like your motives in this thread are quite different from simply stating that you dont want to play.

[bearhander]

i've been pretty enthralled with the raiding environment on p2002 in contrast to the weird set of hoops and hurdles that currently makes up the p99 raid scene. no 16 hour poopsocks, no waiting hours upon hours for a ten second encounter and nobody even has to sit there on the torture rack tracking a damn thing

planes are cleared piece by piece rather than being AOE'd and trivialized, vox and naggy actually feel like powerful dragons that you actually need a large group for, etc.

the population is as small as they come right now, but what numbers are there have already formed a strong bond with one another.

the aforementioned has led to a rather absent economy and it's not uncommon for a black silk sash to just be handed to a new player rather than held over them and peddled at a price they'll only afford when they no longer need it.

boxing is somewhat of a necessity due to the lower numbers as well. you'll hardly encounter anyone else while leveling, but that might not necessarily be a bad thing. the game turns into a sort of single player party RPG, which was exciting for me. . i've never tried boxing before playing here, but i quickly became an enthusiast of it

there are many personalities in the p99 blue top-end that i will miss, but in the end, i will never in my life wait again for a sixteen hour possibility at pixels.

[DeathWalking]

pretty much nailed it there.


the pop is growing though. ive seen several new people come to the server in the past few days

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

and the mods dont try to flex on you.

Funny you say that. Immediately after A&H showed themselves the door, complaints of mod/GM flexing literally disappeared overnight.

Makes you question who the real problem was. :p

[Akillez]

I would love to play on p2002, but just like the new progression server HATE the idea of playing for a few months of original, then a few more months of Kunark. They are fun but P99 has drained me of any desire to be stuck in either of them any longer :(.

[Laugher]

I agree having a shared loginserver would be nice if possible :p . As stated in this thread & elsewhere the rulesets of both servers (ffa vs. rotation) are enough to keep both maintaining a pop in the presence of one another.

In all fairness I played both and have had fun, but then again as a casual on both who hasn't raided on either at this time I have felt no effect of these rules.

[Scrooge]

What's the timeline for expansions like? For example: 3 months per or is it goal-based?

[DeathWalking]

I would love to play on p2002, but just like the new progression server HATE the idea of playing for a few months of original, then a few more months of Kunark. They are fun but P99 has drained me of any desire to be stuck in either of them any longer :(.

kunark is coming out in less than a month

[DeathWalking]

What's the timeline for expansions like? For example: 3 months per or is it goal-based?

honestly im not sure, but i can find out for you

[bearhander]

kunark's due in less than a month and i heard mention that it'll stick for about six or seven months before rotating to velious

[Deckk]

Truth be told, the main reason this has any interest to me whatsoever is that it's start point wasn't that long ago. But the boxing scares me quite a bit. Plus, I DO love what p99 has done.

[Scrooge]

I would love to play on p2002, but just like the new progression server HATE the idea of playing for a few months of original, then a few more months of Kunark. They are fun but P99 has drained me of any desire to be stuck in either of them any longer :(.

Well said, that last sentence would also go through my mind any time there's a 'new' server around.

One look at a server that's been around for many years, like Shards of Dalaya, and everyone can tell exactly what having boxing allowed has done for that server....made it's population much lower than it should be! The general throught process of a typical boxer is, "why group or communicate with anyone else if I can do it by myself?" Even when they nerfed the raid count, maximum allowed per raid, you'd still have a few boxers doing the whole thing unless there was something real special to fighting the boss mobs, like those on the higher raid tiers of SoD.

It's quite unfortunate, but there's really nothing special about taking down the raid mobs from the classic/kunark era (I personally wish it was otherwise!) - or raiding itself for that matter, there's a ton of players who can validate that for you on P99. I'd love to see these so-called "top raiding guilds" on P99, try to take down the Dragons on Uthgard, the classic DAOC server (that's currently down,) using the same tactics they use to raid here. I'm sure there are plenty of other people who feel the same way about all this on these very forums!

[kingbuzzo]

not sure what class/race to roll

[Swish]

If there was a single box (and enforced) Project 2002, expect a lot of P99 players... a lot :p

[Deckk]

If there was a single box (and enforced) Project 2002, expect a lot of P99 players... a lot :p

Yup. Three boxing encourages people to mow through content as solo as they can, without much fear. It takes away those "fearful" moments where you can't decide if you want to stay or zone.

The problem with the p99 servers, and again, who am I to say if this is the same for everyone, but in my eyes:

1) Not going past Velious

2) Although I just started, the server being in Kunark for five years created an extremely oversaturated economy.

3) Lack of being able to play as a frog/cat

Having said all of that, though, I'm glad there are certain things this server will never see... Tons of AA's are just a pain and not fun. I'm not a big fan of PoK... That's what druids and wizards are really for...

Ideally, the perfect server for me, would take what p99 has and add to it with the classic game in mind...

Come Luclin/PoP, you get the new races, new classes, most zones, and spells, but limit the AAs available, get rid of bazaar, too. I'm also not a big fan of current EZ Mode EQ on live.

But the fact that 2002 is newer and I can actually feel like I'm progressing and not just stuck WAY behind everyone is a huge draw.

I'd feel a lot better with a fresh progression server with p99's client.

[BossThunderace]

not sure what class/race to roll

lots of different box combos you can enjoy..

Bard - if you want to single box, great class to get started

Druid/Necro Necro/Sham - if you want to 2 box, great duo to kill anything

? / ? / ? - many different combos to explore.




..the general throught process of a typical boxer is, "why group or communicate with anyone else if I can do it by myself?"..

Thats the general thought process of someone who is anti social. There are many eq-socialites on p2002, people are there to have fun and enjoy the game. Like all things, p2002 will have to stand against the test of time. It's a growing community, come say hi!

[DeathWalking]

not sure what class/race to roll

just play what you enjoy. we're getting quite a few new people joining in the last few days, so there will be better chances of getting a lowbie group going. if nothing else, roll what you want and then box something that compliments it. im running sk/clr at the moment

[Scrooge]

Just curious, do classic-era mobs above level 50, summon like they shouldn't, on this P2002 server?

[apio]

There have been a few questions that came up about the progression nature of this server, let me answer them: Expansions aren't released in a fixed time frame, Kunark will be out next month, we will work on getting Velious released this year as well, think late autumn/early winter) but let me just set the record straight here, we do not see ourselves as a progression server.

The server isn't ultimately about being true to the original timeline. There will be some stuff that will be disabled/held back if we see big balance concerns, but overall we strive to only develop content once, for the era our server will ultimately end on, Planes of Power.

So in short, mobs will/should behave the way they did in 2002.

[bearhander]

the server currently has 1.5 hate/fear, so i'm pretty sure the golems and mini nameds in hate can/will summon due to being post-classic content mobs

[kingbuzzo]

fixed it. I'm in :)

[Scrooge]

I was talking more along the lines of regular mobs in raid zones, like say the white spiders or the gorillas in Fear for instance.

[apio]

shiverbacks and spinechiller spiders do not summon on our server. Whether or not something summons can be set uniquely per NPC.

[Akillez]

I'll download it and give it a work tonight does anyone have a link to a client at up and ready?

[bearhander]

just a small warning, it's a rather severe 'culture shock' to go from p99's third person to an enforced first person view, so be ready for it. i -hated- it so much at first that it nearly made me leave the server, but i've gotten so used to it that i even use first person on p99 now lol

[kingbuzzo]

well now when I try to enter the game it starts loading to character select then it just says "you have been disconnected"

[Namfoodle]

just a small warning, it's a rather severe 'culture shock' to go from p99's third person to an enforced first person view, so be ready for it. i -hated- it so much at first that it nearly made me leave the server, but i've gotten so used to it that i even use first person on p99 now lol

You can hit F9 for more third person views you goose. F9 x3 for the manly mans third person!

[Scrooge]

shiverbacks and spinechiller spiders do not summon on our server. Whether or not something summons can be set uniquely per NPC.

The reason I asked is cause on P99, those regular mobs didn't summon at first either, atleast not until they put Kunark in, about 2-3 years later down the line.

Then they put that summon flag on, on basically any mob that's 51+, regardless if its a raid boss or mini boss or regular. It's not the worst thing to deal with, but it's a bad type of custom change and definitely does not belong in classic/kunark by any means! This is a huge turn-off, especially if you have a unique way of gameplay to keep a game interesting and challenging at the same time, but that Summon ability on regular mobs, just takes all the fun right out of it.

Is there a forum thread that's dedicated to Q/A, other than the FAQs?

How long has this P2002 server been live/up so far?

Are certain items which only dropped once or a set amount of times on live and P99, will they be having that type of restriction on P2002 as well (e.g. Lustruous Armor, Cryosilk Robe, etc.)?

This is another huge turn-off, cause bugs or certain bad ideas shouldn't be reproduced on a classic/progressive server just because they were present on the real servers way back when, while at the same time making customizations to regular mobs like with the summon ability. It doesn't add to the fun, it just takes more of it away - it's too bad people in charge of the servers do not see it that way.

[BossThunderace]

@ Scrooge

So in short, mobs will/should behave the way they did in 2002.

[BossThunderace]

I'll download it and give it a work tonight does anyone have a link to a client at up and ready?

Actually, dont PM me because I probably wont see it. Got pixels to get on the other server.

P2002 forums: http://p2002.com/forums/

P2002 game account creation: http://p2002.com/#/ (once youre logged in with your forum acount)

PC/Mac client download links: http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[apio]

We launched in february. Please let us know if there is important information missing from the FAQ. We do not have a huge playerbase yet so there arent really many questions that qualify as "frequently" asked in the true sense of the word, any input is appreciated.

[kingbuzzo]

well now when I try to enter the game it starts loading to character select then it just says "you have been disconnected"

[DeathWalking]

well now when I try to enter the game it starts loading to character select then it just says "you have been disconnected"

weird.. it let you into the game before though?

[DeathWalking]

are you running it as admin? im in game currently and havent had any problems getting on

[Wharhog]

Kunark June
Velious December
Luclin following summer
PoP following Winter

[TheBiznessTZ]

make it red (teams plox) and ill play. Can't deal with waiitng in line for a camp.

[BossThunderace]

make it red (teams plox) and ill play. Can't deal with waiitng in line for a camp.

Thats what R99 is for, PVP.

The only pvp action you might see on P2002:
1) When someone gets charmed on a raid
2) The Arena
3) /D

[bearhander]

Can't deal with waiitng in line for a camp.

i don't think you will experience an issue with this for awhile

[TheBiznessTZ]

Thats what R99 is for, PVP.

The only pvp action you might see on P2002:
1) When someone gets charmed on a raid
2) The Arena
3) /D

so in other words never. Ill pass

[BossThunderace]

so in other words never. Ill pass

Happy Hunting :)

[newagemystic]

I don't box, but my gut tells me I'd have preferred this server to only allow 2boxing rather then 3 just for the sake of probably forcing more live interaction. 2 live people per full grp seems rather lame.

I do like me some PoP content though, maybe a whirl I shall give.

[Akillez]

login server failed to respond ?

[BossThunderace]

login server failed to respond ?

Hey Akillez,

post tech questions here > http://p2002.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=17

include as much information as you can, what type of client you are using, what kind of firewalls you have, etc.

[BossThunderace]

I don't box, but my gut tells me I'd have preferred this server to only allow 2boxing rather then 3 just for the sake of probably forcing more live interaction. 2 live people per full grp seems rather lame.

I do like me some PoP content though, maybe a whirl I shall give.

Be cool and you will find like minded players.

Global /ooc provides plenty of player interaction

in regards to boxing... play the game as you like :D

[Akillez]

doing a reinstall I may have installed over another old EQ installation, if its still hating me I will post it in there :)

[Wharhog]

Grab the client from rerolled and save ur self the hassle

[Akillez]

I grabbed it from rerolled, the problem was when i hit eqw it found another install and I didnt pay attention to the path of the exe it was running. Changed to the right path and making a char as we speak.

[Deckk]

What's rerolled?

[Wharhog]

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[B4EQWASCOOL]

Do wizards get spell criticals?

[BossThunderace]

Do wizards get spell criticals?

Yes, personal best crit so far is (1806) w Ice Comet at L50.

[B4EQWASCOOL]

That's my biggest hang up here. I know it's far from classic. But, I really like big numbers and seeing health drop. Might check it out next rainy day. Mayhaps you know what level wizards get this ability?

[BossThunderace]

That's my biggest hang up here. I know it's far from classic. But, I really like big numbers and seeing health drop. Might check it out next rainy day. Mayhaps you know what level wizards get this ability?

lv1 ;)

[Bweetza]

I'm interested, but your website is quite sparse on information. Rules are not clear, install instructions are somewhat difficult to find, and the exact scope and intent of the project is not outlined.

Manage that, show you can keep it going, manage a decent population, and I'm in.

[Wharhog]

Rules : http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=10

FAQ:
http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8&p=13#p13

Install:
http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017027&viewfull=1#post1017027

[DeathWalking]

I'm interested, but your website is quite sparse on information. Rules are not clear, install instructions are somewhat difficult to find, and the exact scope and intent of the project is not outlined.

Manage that, show you can keep it going, manage a decent population, and I'm in.

to install you literally just extract the eqmac.zip to your C drive and run eqw.exe. takes like 5 minutes to actually be in teh game once youve downloaded the zip. dont pay attention to the instructions that tell you to install titanium first, as it wont work that way, or it wouldnt for me.


other than that you just have to make a forum account and a game account (in that order) following the link in the first comment in this thread

[DeathWalking]

already getting a few of over to p2002. how many more will answer the call to battle?!

[ixtebang]

Giving this a try with a SK/Bard/Shaman combo. I got my party up to level 4 last night, then realized my troll SK was falling way behind because of the 20% exp race penalty. Re-rolling as a human SK so everyone levels at the same rate. It's bizarre being able to have a Vah Shir shaman, access to plane of knowledge, but only really having old world zones and level 50 cap.

[DeathWalking]

Giving this a try with a SK/Bard/Shaman combo. I got my party up to level 4 last night, then realized my troll SK was falling way behind because of the 20% exp race penalty. Re-rolling as a human SK so everyone levels at the same rate. It's bizarre being able to have a Vah Shir shaman, access to plane of knowledge, but only really having old world zones and level 50 cap.

Thats a solid combo. according to the devs, kunark is going to be out in less than a month, theyre just going over everything now to make sure it's all correct. velious is expected to be in-game by the end of the year, so you wont have to wait too long. plus it gives you time to level up and get some gear before getting into expansion content.

[Secrets]

I am taking a neutral position here.

I'm not. Arm and Hammered EQ can keep those that are easily misled by posts like this. It's never been about player counts for us anyways. It's about preserving EQMac, not making a server that's a competitor to P99.

[DeathWalking]

I'm not. Arm and Hammered EQ can keep those that are easily misled by posts like this. It's never been about player counts for us anyways. It's about preserving EQMac, not making a server that's a competitor to P99.

It isnt a competitor, theyre completely different eras/servers. This is just a good place to find people that would be interested in an everquest emu server. People are free to play whichever server they want, arent they?

[Secrets]

It isnt a competitor, theyre completely different eras/servers. This is just a good place to find people that would be interested in an everquest emu server. People are free to play whichever server they want, arent they?

Of course. That's why I said what I did.

[Sketched]

Secrets post is something that I was thinking as well, more numbers isn't always better, or a desired goal. A lot of people consider p99 to be overcrowded, and with more people comes constant pressure to change server values and norms. On P2002 hands off GMs and no rotations will work great, as long as people are mature, and there isn't one guild ruling over content and denying others. The same could be said for TAKP, too many guilds and people will delay content access.

In the end the servers have different goals, mildly different rulesets, and different communities. It is really too bad that there had to be a split but it may be better in the long run if it results in two stable communities rather than one community in continual conflict. I think everyone is hoping that both servers thrive and are successful, whatever success is for each respective community.

[DeathWalking]

Secrets post is something that I was thinking as well, more numbers isn't always better, or a desired goal. A lot of people consider p99 to be overcrowded, and with more people comes constant pressure to change server values and norms. On P2002 hands off GMs and no rotations will work great, as long as people are mature, and there isn't one guild ruling over content and denying others. The same could be said for TAKP, too many guilds and people will delay content access.

In the end the servers have different goals, mildly different rulesets, and different communities. It is really too bad that there had to be a split but it may be better in the long run if it results in two stable communities rather than one community in continual conflict. I think everyone is hoping that both servers thrive and are successful, whatever success is for each respective community.

I agree with what youre saying. Numbers dont always equal a good server. The reason i posted this though, is because the p2002 server still has a pretty low pop, and a lot of people who might be interested in it simply dont know about it. Its far from being crowded at this point.


Though i think the rules are more than mildly different relative to p99. Theres no raid rotation, theres a general 'dont be an asshole' rule with minimal GM involvement (we're all adults, we're expected to act like it), they allow boxing of up to 3 toons which i'd like to see changed once the population gets to a workable number, and it isnt stopping at velious.


So far ive had a great experience on p2002. The people are unanimously friendly and helpful, people are respectful of camps and dont hinder anyone elses ability to enjoy the game, despite boxing rules people will drop a box to make room in a party for other people to join ect. Its still young and underpopulated, but that's why im advertising it. i genuinely believe that this server is going to go places, all it needs is more people to really make it thrive.

[apio]

Arm and Hammered EQ can keep those that are easily misled by posts like this.

:S

Thank you for your generosity

[DeathWalking]

im not sure what secrets is talking about, because i dont get into the politics or the personal squabbles of devs. what i do know is that it's a great server thats just starting out, and is getting new content without having to wait almost 5 years. all it needs is time and people.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Arm and Hammered EQ.

Lol

[BossThunderace]

I'm not. Arm and Hammered EQ can keep those that are easily misled by posts like this. It's never been about player counts for us anyways. It's about preserving EQMac, not making a server that's a competitor to P99.

Secrets, hey you showed up to the party! Where is your 'Secrets level 50 ' tag? I remember seeing you on takp, rocking a [Banker] tag - a class that never existed.

EQMac never had any GM or any character with a [Banker] tag. That preservation logic gets me confused.

EQMac also never had GM's leveling with their toons'

Here are some screens from my time on takp:

http://s29.postimg.org/kyct3bp8n/Gm11111.png

http://s14.postimg.org/71q7acaox/GM2.png


Oh, also remember when you summoned me into a boat along with a GM friend of yours, to zoom around crushbone.

http://s12.postimg.org/m7bsrimnh/CB1.png

http://s4.postimg.org/jw0fvnpu5/CB2.png

http://s13.postimg.org/4fm2spugn/CB3.png




P2002 is about [B]hands-off GM policy, more fun for everyone.

/cheers

http://www.blog.joelx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/beer-toast.gif

[Deckk]

The 3-boxing is really preventing me from giving this a go. It just seems like a lot. *shrug*

Love the concept, though.

[kaev]

Don't much like boxing, but also don't care at all if people who do like boxing are doing it on servers I don't play on. On the plus side, unlike red99 these posts aren't spamming unrelated threads all over the forum. No desire to rain on anyone's parade, hope those who play p2002 have a good time doing so. Only so many hours in the day, blue99 has a lock on my MMO time.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Secrets, hey you showed up to the party! Where is your 'Secrets level 50 ' tag? I remember seeing you on takp, rocking a [Banker] tag - a class that never existed.

EQMac never had any GM or any character with a [Banker] tag. That preservation logic gets me confused.

EQMac also never had GM's leveling with their toons'

Here are some screens from my time on takp:

http://s29.postimg.org/kyct3bp8n/Gm11111.png

http://s14.postimg.org/71q7acaox/GM2.png


Oh, also remember when you summoned me into a boat along with a GM friend of yours, to zoom around crushbone.

http://s12.postimg.org/m7bsrimnh/CB1.png

http://s4.postimg.org/jw0fvnpu5/CB2.png

http://s13.postimg.org/4fm2spugn/CB3.png




P2002 is about [B]hands-off GM policy, more fun for everyone.

/cheers

http://www.blog.joelx.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/02/beer-toast.gif

Those people look like they're having a ton of fun there.

I'll say again, after A&H jumped ship, there have been zero complaints about GM/Dev activity on the server and we see Robregen visiting and interacting almost daily. It's nice to have a GM/Dev around, especially on a server that's *in development*.

If you're gonna build a straw man at least build it well.

[Haynar]

I don't GM. I do help code some. Never really seen GMs do much on takp, except when top guilds wanted to declare naggy and vox were theirs exclusively, until they (top guiilds) decided who was worthy of joining a rotation. Thats the rumor.

On p2002, all the gms are in the top guild, and its only guild raiding far as i understand. They add custom loot drops as they want them, like adding guise to drop for a short while.

Sounds like someone running their own custom server to me. Like the majority of the eqemu servers.

I dont know all the facts. Just what i hear.

H

[Sketched]

Hahahaha BossThunder is that a serious post? Oh no not a dev riding a boat around Crushbone or using a <Banker> tag! Serious additions to the server, EQMac experience ruined!

[Secrets]

Secrets, hey you showed up to the party! Where is your 'Secrets level 50 ' tag? I remember seeing you on takp, rocking a [Banker] tag - a class that never existed.

EQMac never had any GM or any character with a [Banker] tag. That preservation logic gets me confused.


So I'm not allowed to have fun - got it. The banker class, if you recall, when you right click on it and modify your banks' contents will cause your client to get disconnected. It's harmless. I don't actually play the game on that character and you know that, which makes you a real scumbag.

EQMac also never had GM's leveling with their toons'

Here are some screens from my time on takp:

I never had a player character on TAKProject, unless you count my level 8 necromancer. Those players I interacted with are not friends of mine, nor are they anyone I know. Nice of you to try and spin something into positive PR for Arm and Hammered EQ, though. Really mature and professional.

Oh, also remember when you summoned me into a boat along with a GM friend of yours, to zoom around crushbone.

I did not 'summon you into a boat' on Crushbone, I turned into a stationary boat (edit: to clarify, one that could not move) for shits and giggles. If you knew anything about the client you'd know that boats need water to move. Showing again how incompetent your logic is. Again, twisting the truth for positive PR.

P2002 is about [B]hands-off GM policy, more fun for everyone.

P2002 is about people taking EverQuest so seriously that they make their own server because they cannot handle guild politics and cry about it. Arm and Hammered EQ is no different than EQTitan.

I am glad you decided to voluntarily leave the server. It's better off without you, seeing as you create stories in your head.

[Wharhog]

Bossthunderace is not part of the P2002 "team" he just plays here

[Secrets]

Bossthunderace is not part of the P2002 "team" he just plays here

I certainly hope he's not part of the P2002 team because he's a delusional retard. I wouldn't wish that kind of player on anyone.

[Champion_Standing]

I hate this client.

[Secrets]

I hate this client.

You're not alone in hating this client. Titanium works better for boxing and such. Plus the netcode is garbage.

[apio]

I am glad you decided to voluntarily leave the server. It's better off without you, seeing as you create stories in your head. You're about as delusional as the rest of the team there.

It is sad that I have to intervene here, I just wanted to make a few things about the server clear (since this is turning into a pissing contest for no reason)

- Thunderace is not a part of the p2002 staff
- 2002 staff posting on this thread have been helpful and non confrontational
- the P2002 staff is NOT entirely made up of members of Powerslave (Armed n Hammered)
- our server was created solely because we realized that you can not have a server that caters to both casual and competitive players, and we wanted to create this environment for like minded individuals
- on the grounds of that, like i have stated multiple times before in this thread, I am of the firm belief that we NEED both servers, so let us stop this pissing contest

as a matter of fact, our server uses code from Haynar, Secrets and every other staff member on TAK, which they get full credit for on our Forums on the Staff List, and on every patch that includes one of their changes.

Therefore, I do not understand why the 2 of you (Haynar and Secrets) are trying to stir the pot here, when you both obviously are partly responsible for the existance of our server and it's code.

I want to close this post with a quote from Secrets from the Rerolled forums:

This is exactly why I kept the project open source. If someone is disgruntled and wants to make their own server, all is not lost.

Good luck with your project!

http://www.rerolled.org/showthread.php?7738-Project-2002-The-Age-of-Al-Kabor-release-date-3-21-15&p=1017148&viewfull=1#post1017148

Can't we all just get along and return to that place?

[Secrets]

I'm not stirring the pot. I am responding to accusations by a member of your server.

If someone is disgruntled they are able to make their own server. That does not give you a free pass to insult my team - the same one you take contributions from - and expect no verbal outrage in return. You're more than entitled to make your own server. You have made your own server. The ability to make your own quality EQMac server will not change.

But I'll be damned if you and your team are going to wail on contributors that are helping you without someone saying something. No one said you can't use our code - and no one is saying that now. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

[apio]

Nobody on our team has insulted you or anyone on TAK for that matter. I honestly hope you will drop this because quite frankly it is detrimental to both servers.

I do not control the minds of the people who play on my server. I think I have made my intentions quite clear, but I can only speak for myself and the staff of our server

[BossThunderace]

So I'm not allowed to have fun - got it.

No Secrets - you are not allowed to have fun.

The banker class, if you recall, when you right click on it and modify your banks' contents will cause your client to get disconnected. It's harmless. I don't actually play the game on that character and you know that, which makes you a real scumbag. I never had a player character on TAKProject, unless you count my level 8 necromancer. Those players I interacted with are not friends of mine, nor are they anyone I know. Nice of you to try and spin something into positive PR for Arm and Hammered EQ, though. Really mature and professional.

Secrets, calling me a real scumbag makes you look like a rustled little kid.

I did not 'summon you into a boat' on Crushbone, I turned into a stationary boat (edit: to clarify, one that could not move) for shits and giggles. If you knew anything about the client you'd know that boats need water to move. Showing again how incompetent your logic is. Again, twisting the truth for positive PR.

soo you don't know Speedz? He is not your friend? You did summon him to your yacht party..? You summoned me and then you summoned Ookie. Again, Secrets - you are not allowed to have fun.


P2002 is about people taking EverQuest so seriously that they make their own server because they cannot handle guild politics and cry about it. Arm and Hammered EQ is no different than EQTitan. I am glad you decided to voluntarily leave the server. It's better off without you, seeing as you create stories in your head.

Your post is better than daytime television.

please post more so I can laugh.


oh wait, you already did..

I certainly hope he's not part of the P2002 team because he's a delusional retard. I wouldn't wish that kind of player on anyone.

You are a toxic individual. You've had nothing to contribute to this thread other than throwing shade. I feel sorry for you

[Secrets]

No Secrets - you are not allowed to have fun.



Secrets, calling me a real scumbag makes you look like a rustled little kid.

You've had nothing to contribute to this thread other than throwing shade. I feel sorry for you

I'll have as much fun as I damn please - you replying to me is proof of that :)

No SS, no fraps, no proof that I summoned you. I could care less what Speedz does in his spare time.

So you posted this with the intent of throwing shade, and accused me of throwing shade.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Get rustled, kiddo.

Nobody on our team has insulted you or anyone on TAK for that matter. I honestly hope you will drop this because quite frankly it is detrimental to both servers.

I do not control the minds of the people who play on my server. I think I have made my intentions quite clear, but I can only speak for myself and the staff of our server



Oh, I'll drop this discussion with you if your server does. Chances are though, that's not happening, judging by this thread.

[Secrets]

No Secrets - you are not allowed to have fun.

eq is serious business

hey in a video game, you can't have fun

[Furst]

This thread was about p2002 till you came to shit it up secrets

[Haynar]

There has to be something with the directx that causes most of the crashes. Hope to try and pin it down better some day.

H

[Secrets]

This thread was about p2002 till you came to shit it up secrets

It still can be, provided P2002's playerbase doesn't shit it up with nonsense about me unprovoked.

[DeathWalking]

ITT: devs getting those "my kid's better than yours" feels


You guys dont have to try to sling mud, no one is up for election here. no one is saying one server is better than the other, just different and a thing. if you dont like the server, you dont have to play on it. the purpose of this thread is solely to make people who would like to play aware of it's existence.



Please take the personal squabbles and negativity to PMs.

[Secrets]

ITT: devs getting those "my kid's better than yours" feels


You guys dont have to try to sling mud, no one is up for election here. no one is saying one server is better than the other, just different and a thing. if you dont like the server, you dont have to play on it. the purpose of this thread is solely to make people who would like to play aware of it's existence.



Please take the personal squabbles and negativity to PMs.

Agreed 100%. It's a shame some of the people in this thread don't understand that.

P2002 is okay by me. I actually encourage people to play on there if that's their style of playing. It's just when you start attacking people that make P2002 what it is, it becomes something else.

[DeathWalking]

I'm not. Arm and Hammered EQ can keep those that are easily misled by posts like this. It's never been about player counts for us anyways. It's about preserving EQMac, not making a server that's a competitor to P99.

So I'm not allowed to have fun - got it. The banker class, if you recall, when you right click on it and modify your banks' contents will cause your client to get disconnected. It's harmless. I don't actually play the game on that character and you know that, which makes you a real scumbag.



I never had a player character on TAKProject, unless you count my level 8 necromancer. Those players I interacted with are not friends of mine, nor are they anyone I know. Nice of you to try and spin something into positive PR for Arm and Hammered EQ, though. Really mature and professional.



I did not 'summon you into a boat' on Crushbone, I turned into a stationary boat (edit: to clarify, one that could not move) for shits and giggles. If you knew anything about the client you'd know that boats need water to move. Showing again how incompetent your logic is. Again, twisting the truth for positive PR.


P2002 is about people taking EverQuest so seriously that they make their own server because they cannot handle guild politics and cry about it. Arm and Hammered EQ is no different than EQTitan.

I am glad you decided to voluntarily leave the server. It's better off without you, seeing as you create stories in your head.

I certainly hope he's not part of the P2002 team because he's a delusional retard. I wouldn't wish that kind of player on anyone.

You're not alone in hating this client. Titanium works better for boxing and such. Plus the netcode is garbage.

I'll have as much fun as I damn please - you replying to me is proof of that :)

No SS, no fraps, no proof that I summoned you. I could care less what Speedz does in his spare time.

So you posted this with the intent of throwing shade, and accused me of throwing shade.

Pot calling the kettle black.

Get rustled, kiddo.



Oh, I'll drop this discussion with you if your server does. Chances are though, that's not happening, judging by this thread.

It still can be, provided P2002's playerbase doesn't shit it up with nonsense about me unprovoked.



https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/476515840574357504/1mUwtW_B.jpeg

[Champion_Standing]

Holy shit the immersion.


Anyway trying to decide what duo or trio to box got everything else set up.

[DeathWalking]

Holy shit the immersion.


Anyway trying to decide what duo or trio to box got everything else set up.

anything with heals, anything that can tank, dps would be my pick

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You're not alone in hating this client. Titanium works better for boxing and such. Plus the netcode is garbage.

I also dislike the client. For either server to thrive I believe that needs to be serially addressed.

[DeathWalking]

I also dislike the client. For either server to thrive I believe that needs to be serially addressed.

that 1st person view is an immersion multiplier

[apio]

It is definitely harder to set up, but I really prefer the client we use since it is more authentic and era appropriate.

[Haynar]

The client is tied to the client AK used. Thats why its used.

So its about making it work.

H

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Disabling features within a client isn't that difficult to do. I'm more concerned with things like soothe window transition not only between boxes but also external programs like a browser.

Alt tabbing is only ideal in so many situations.

[Haynar]

Disabling features within a client isn't that difficult to do. I'm more concerned with things like soothe window transition not only between boxes but also external programs like a browser.

Alt tabbing is only ideal in so many situations.
That era, you ran full screen. Running eqwindows was the option for windowed alt-tabbing. And it was not always reliable or stable.

Someone could write a better eqw.exe as one option. Or play on a mac.

H

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

That era, you ran full screen. Running eqwindows was the option for windowed alt-tabbing. And it was not always reliable or stable.

That era you played on 56K or a rudimentary DSL line if you lived in the right area.

Its safe to narrow it to data tables when you're talking about what should be that era, wouldn't you agree? ;)

[Haynar]

Latest pc client was from 2002. I was on a cablemodem in 2000. Thats my experience tho.

H

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Latest pc client was from 2002. I was on a cablemodem in 2000. Thats my experience tho.

H

you lived in the right area. :p

[Sketched]

I dunno I am with Apio on this one and actually like the client that TAKP and P2002 use. There are some stability issues but they will be worked out over time I suspect. I wouldn't necessarily be against another client if everyone was switching to something else too. I think my favorite thing about the current client is people complaining about lack of proper 3rd party view and having to actually hit the sit/stand button more frequently.

[Scrooge]

Is there a Wiki or "Magelo" for this server?

As for the client dillema, would be great if the true classic client was in play, like the one EQClassic was going to have. Also, is anyone starting soon and want to have a near-constant group to XP with? I'm somewhat conflicted as to whether I should do this or not...I can't really commit but would be interested as well if there are other players who'd want to concentrate on a single char (or two at max) - atleast to start with anyway. I think someone mentioned Kunark being activated next month.

[DeathWalking]

Is there a Wiki or "Magelo" for this server?

it's in the works, but most of the info can be found online or by asking around in the chat

[BossThunderace]

Is there a Wiki or "Magelo" for this server?

As for the client dillema, would be great if the true classic client was in play, like the one EQClassic was going to have. Also, is anyone starting soon and want to have a near-constant group to XP with? I'm somewhat conflicted as to whether I should do this or not...I can't really commit but would be interested as well if there are other players who'd want to concentrate on a single char (or two at max) - atleast to start with anyway. I think someone mentioned Kunark being activated next month.

There are quite a few new players on right now under lv10 exping in various newb yards. Best bet would be to meet someone in game and see if you guys have similar play times. Good luck & Happy Hunting!

Kunark will open sometime next month.

[bearhander]

seconding the 'jump in and see' method of finding someone to exp with

i met javvo at a very low level in the middle of nowhere and we pretty much climbed to 50 together

[DeathWalking]

Is there a Wiki or "Magelo" for this server?



whoops, i was thinking of alla. idk about a magelo, but a wiki of sorts is in teh works.


also lots of newcomers in the past few days. good chance you'll find a party if you want one

[BossThunderace]

from p2002 forms

pending next server reboot

Guise of the Deceiver will be removed.

Zems will be updated.

The Hole and Stonebrunt Mountains will be open.

Get your guise while you still can!

[DeathWalking]

and it didnt even take 4 years! consider p2002.

[Deckk]

I just can't get passed the boxing! It's bothering me because I really like the sound of this server. Argh!!

[Akillez]

I played night solo, got into a group pretty easy and then got pled :p I hate boxing as well, but the community is a amazing so far.

[DeathWalking]

I just can't get passed the boxing! It's bothering me because I really like the sound of this server. Argh!!

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

[Deckk]

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

[BossThunderace]

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

You can also make a Gnome Shadowknight...


and WoW is ezmode compared to EQ

[ixtebang]

Had a great time playing again last night. The high levels on this server are extremely helpful. Got lots of great Shaman and Cleric buffs in PoK. A level 50 shadowknight was making full banded armor sets for free, so I got my sk decked out in banded. He now looks like the shady swashbuckler. I also got invited by a druid to a PL my entire trio in Kurn's tower along with his twinks.. my group went from level 5 to level 12 in under an hour, it was awesome!

[DeathWalking]

I tell ya what. The ONE thing that makes me want to play on p2002 is the fact that I can create and play a shaman and shadowknight at the same time. Which sounds awesome.

Downside? I don't have enough hours in the day to play on two servers. And I may get into the WoW emu (simply because I've never even tried WoW)

But damn, you guys are at least making me think. Well played.

Ultimately you should play what you enjoy, but you dont know what you enjoy until you try it right :D? Personally, i didnt care much for wow. my first MMO was classic EQ so that sort of set a very high bar for me. classic was about as close to D&D as you can get without actually rolling dice, and D&D was what kindled my love for rpgs.


With WoW (and im not saying you shouldnt try it because everyone's tastes differ) i feel like the potential issues with boxing are present without boxing. I found it terribly easy. easy to the point that you can solo all the way up to the raid scene without any sort of issue. as a byproduct of that, the community is typically really bad. very little social interaction, and even less positive social interaction. people level so quickly that they never have the opportunity to truly learn their class, so you end up with a raid scene riddled with noobs.


However, now that the people who played vanilla WoW are a little bit older, maybe theyve mellowed some, like a fine box wine.


Play what you like, but i honestly dont think you'll be disappointed if you decide to try p2002. after years of p99, the first word i could think of to describe p2002 was 'refreshing'.

[Sketched]

you dont have to box if you dont want to! there are a lot of newcomers on the server right now, and if you want a party, people will gladly drop a box to make room for you.


we dont box because we dont want to partake in the social aspect of eq, we box because right now the population is low and we'd like to be able to play.


hell, if we can get the population high enough, maybe they'll disallow boxing altogether.

Do you really think that the dev team and the server population would disallow boxing? All these people putting time into their alts, or box members, believing that due to the current rule set they are allowed to have them? I know I would be pissed spending a ton of time setting up a team and gearing them out, only to have that rule revoked. Not everything has to appeal to everyone. The 3 boxing limit on both servers is pretty fair, and both servers have single/duo boxers and helpful members in their communities.

[apio]

I do not think P2002 will ever restrict boxing beyond what we have right now. We believe 3 is a pretty good compromise. With the exp mechanics in place this size encourages picking up extra people in your group beyond those 3 boxes.

Hypothetically, if our size ever justified or made it necessary to change the rules, I am pretty sure we would opt for creation of a 2nd box before changing rules on our existing box

Nobody would argue that a guild of single boxers with 20 characters doesn't have a way higher ceiling than 7 people playing 3 characters each. Boxing characters on raids can be very cumbersome and often times detrimental. I guess what I am trying to say is, less is sometimes more.

I personally prefer to not box, I find the game way more relaxing and enjoyable and I am able to play my character on a whole other level, but I play a Bard so its easy for me to say, most classes don't have the potential to keep you as busy.

But that's just it, there are classes that are way too 1 dimensional to single box. Warrior and Rogue come to mind, Wizard is another prime example. Many of those classes also are very dependent on finding groups, while other classes can solo all the way to 65 and full AAs. The sad truth is, EQ just isn't a very balanced game, I think 3 boxing kind of serves as a great equalizer, while at the same time promoting the use of not so frequently picked classes that aren't very self sufficient on their own.

[Deckk]

One things for sure, I love my gnome warrior here wayyyy too much to just switch. But maybe I'll give it a go with a shaman/shadow knight combo tonight. And although I hate PoK, it won't be hard to get a barb and a gnome to the same starting area... We'll see.

[Nads]

Tried to install on my macbook pro..feel like a mongoloid cause I couldn't figure out how to do it.

[apio]

Once you have a forum account you need a game account, once created you can use those login infos to create a starting script like it is described here: http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=21

[Deckk]

Every time I attempt to create a game account from the main p2002 page it redirects me to the forum. (Yes, I DID log in already on all of the browsers)

EDIT: Got to a create screen on firefox but it only asks for Username/Password. When I press submit it says I need a valid email.

EDIT AGAIN: Now it let me do it. How fun.

So, am I doing it wrong? I'm extracting the files now.

Ugh. Got the client launched but my window is off the screen... How do I move the window? Alt-tabbing takes it out of my control...

[apio]

Save yourself some time and delete the eqw.ini and eqclient.ini files, and you will get to configure it from scratch. Also check the PC Installation guide on our forums for recommended settings in your eqclient file, once your new file has been created by the game.

[DeathWalking]

Got the client launched but my window is off the screen... How do I move the window? Alt-tabbing takes it out of my control...

have you tried ctrl+shift+r? that should free up your cursor so you can drag the window

[DeathWalking]

Tried to install on my macbook pro..feel like a mongoloid cause I couldn't figure out how to do it.

im not sure how to install with macs. ive got zero experience using them :/ i'm sure someone can tell you though. if youve got a forum account you should look through/post in the technical help forum if no one here gives you an answer

[Nads]

im not sure how to install with macs. ive got zero experience using them :/ i'm sure someone can tell you though. if youve got a forum account you should look through/post in the technical help forum if no one here gives you an answer

I figured it out! Let's see, what to roll. I'm thinking a rogue, honestly.

[Deckk]

This probably isn't fair at all... But I logged in and decided to try three boxing. Rolled shaman, sk and wiz. After about an hour and a half of getting each character their guild chest, finding the PoK, soul binding in steamfont it was time to fight. Rolled into the steamfont newbie area and... Dead. Kobold shaman patrolling. Very red. Got everyone back together and wandered back in that direction, this time I found a nice low level kobold runt. Tagged him and brought him back to the shammy and wizard. Got a few good hits in, switched to shaman to melee... Kobold shaman shows up. Dead.

Drop the wiz box and decide it's too hard to roll three deep. Go back to newbie area. Go to opposite side of the area. I find a decaying skeleton. Excellent. Engage him, switch to shaman. Kobold shaman. Dead. Rage quit.

Since freakin when are there red wandering mobs in the steamfont newbie area!?! Grr.

[Wharhog]

I suggest EFP, highest ZEM....lowest risk

[DeathWalking]

This probably isn't fair at all... But I logged in and decided to try three boxing. Rolled shaman, sk and wiz. After about an hour and a half of getting each character their guild chest, finding the PoK, soul binding in steamfont it was time to fight. Rolled into the steamfont newbie area and... Dead. Kobold shaman patrolling. Very red. Got everyone back together and wandered back in that direction, this time I found a nice low level kobold runt. Tagged him and brought him back to the shammy and wizard. Got a few good hits in, switched to shaman to melee... Kobold shaman shows up. Dead.

Drop the wiz box and decide it's too hard to roll three deep. Go back to newbie area. Go to opposite side of the area. I find a decaying skeleton. Excellent. Engage him, switch to shaman. Kobold shaman. Dead. Rage quit.

Since freakin when are there red wandering mobs in the steamfont newbie area!?! Grr.

there have always been very red merbs wandering in all the noobie areas from what i remember, except maybe freeport



dont ragequit bro, get some levels so you can come back and make that kobold your bitch

[B4EQWASCOOL]

That is frustrating... When stuff like that happens, I take some time to go exercise. Getting away from it helps the build-up of frustration subside and you can start fresh after you clear your head.

[Scrooge]

WoW is basically a game, made for non-gamers.

If it's your first time playing Everquest or you're having a hard time at low levels while boxing, my suggestion is: stop boxing and level 1 character as a main - get a feel for the char, the server and the newbie zones, cause this game isn't very forgiving when it comes to bad decisions. Paying attention to your surroundings at all times is a good way to learn how to survive, regardless of levels!

You can always PL another char later on, and just cause boxing is allowed, it doesn't mean that's exactly what you must do to enjoy the game or the server you're playing on.

[BossThunderace]

This probably isn't fair at all... But I logged in and decided to try three boxing. Rolled shaman, sk and wiz. After about an hour and a half of getting each character their guild chest, finding the PoK, soul binding in steamfont it was time to fight. Rolled into the steamfont newbie area and... Dead. Kobold shaman patrolling. Very red. Got everyone back together and wandered back in that direction, this time I found a nice low level kobold runt. Tagged him and brought him back to the shammy and wizard. Got a few good hits in, switched to shaman to melee... Kobold shaman shows up. Dead.

Drop the wiz box and decide it's too hard to roll three deep. Go back to newbie area. Go to opposite side of the area. I find a decaying skeleton. Excellent. Engage him, switch to shaman. Kobold shaman. Dead. Rage quit.

Since freakin when are there red wandering mobs in the steamfont newbie area!?! Grr.

Yeah man, Steamfont can be rough, would kill bats and bugs in FP, practice switching toons, and venture off into Norrath. Saw you in game for a brief min, if you need any buffs ask around, people will help. I got a lv1 beastlord lfg.

also, I second B4EQWASCOOL. Working out is great for mind and body. Makes EQ more fun.

[bearhander]

all these nerds talking about freeport when you can just clean cut field of bone to kurn's all the way to 24

[Sketched]

Kurns isnt active yet on either of the server, FoB is. If you think the mob is a bug please help either project out and post a report with detailed information and the issue can be resolved. If it it is part of the game, well that does totally suck, sometimes EQ isn't fair and it doesnt take long for shit to go wrong.

[Wharhog]

Sir, Kurns is active and has been since launch....you should try playing here

[syzygyst]

Played there today. Super nice people, very willing to throw buffs out, and their global ooc is civil and mature. The server play is very much like I remember. zoning is super fast. I don't care if people box, since boxing is classic. I give it a 4.99 out of 5 ( I bever give perfect reviews).

[BossThunderace]

all these nerds talking about freeport when you can just clean cut field of bone to kurn's all the way to 24

He's new at boxing, Kurns would require higher level assistance. When new to boxing, Freeport is your best choice for learning how to box etc.

[BossThunderace]

Played there today. Super nice people, very willing to throw buffs out, and their global ooc is civil and mature. The server play is very much like I remember. zoning is super fast. I don't care if people box, since boxing is classic. I give it a 4.99 out of 5 ( I bever give perfect reviews).

Awesome!! Sounds like you had a good time.

[DeathWalking]

Played there today. Super nice people, very willing to throw buffs out, and their global ooc is civil and mature. The server play is very much like I remember. zoning is super fast. I don't care if people box, since boxing is classic. I give it a 4.99 out of 5 ( I bever give perfect reviews).

glad youre enjoying it :D

got some toons around lvl 10 if youre interested in getting a group going sometime

[Jimjam]

What do you tell a gnome with two black eyes?


Nothing! A kobold shaman already told him twice.

[DeathWalking]

What do you tell a gnome with two black eyes?



stop trying to run under ogres.

[Sketched]

Sir, Kurns is active and has been since launch....you should try playing here

My bad, sorry. Offer me a char transfer haha! Maybe next time I roll an alt.

[Deckk]

WoW is basically a game, made for non-gamers.

If it's your first time playing Everquest or you're having a hard time at low levels while boxing, my suggestion is: stop boxing and level 1 character as a main - get a feel for the char, the server and the newbie zones, cause this game isn't very forgiving when it comes to bad decisions. Paying attention to your surroundings at all times is a good way to learn how to survive, regardless of levels!

You can always PL another char later on, and just cause boxing is allowed, it doesn't mean that's exactly what you must do to enjoy the game or the server you're playing on.

I've played WoW for all of 20 mins and I played EQ from launch til 02. I know the game.

But I never remember steamfont being like that. And it's definitely not in p99.

[DeathWalking]

Just finished up a hell of a party in kurns with a monk who chose not to box and is doing fine without.

[DeathWalking]

I've played WoW for all of 20 mins and I played EQ from launch til 02. I know the game.

But I never remember steamfont being like that. And it's definitely not in p99.

That's because p99 isn't classic, it just claims to be to play on peoples nostalgia. I remember the shaman though

[Akillez]

Ha that monk is me, its fun. The low pop does make it hard though got 15 with you went out and died to a green and lost it :P damn you eq !!!!!

[Akillez]

Yeah playing a bit more this morning i would highly suggest either boxing or rolling a class that is meant to solo. Soloing on this monk is very painful, I can bind to 50% but then can only kill light blues in order to solo a real blue I have to go afk till mend is up and i can get back upto 80-90% hp. I am thinking about either rolling necro or flipping to ragefire for groups :(. Great server but the pop right now just doesnt support solo folks much.

[Akillez]

and just died again from 50% life to a LB /sigh......

[syzygyst]

Hmm. I don't box at all. Granted I've been taking my time, but I am soloing a human paladin, and only died once. I actually picked up some decent gear. Try asking in OOC for buffs. The people who are there are pretty awesome when t comes to throwing some buffs your way. Once you get sosme PP, head to POK. There's some decent lowbie gear you can get from the vendors until you can finish your hometown class armor set.

[DeathWalking]

Try asking in OOC for buffs. The people who are there are pretty awesome when t comes to throwing some buffs your way. Once you get sosme PP, head to POK. There's some decent lowbie gear you can get from the vendors until you can finish your hometown class armor set.

ive had people stop me to give me buffs while im running around minding my own business. ive had people offer to come to where im camping to give me buffs. its great. everyone there is pretty great.

actual screenshot of a cleric in PoK giving buffs:
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/012/809/oprah-free-car.gif

[DeathWalking]

also, akillez, quit dying bro :C

if youre on later we should go back to kurns

[Lorian]

Ok, Just created an account and about to have a go. As an old Al'Kabor player this has potential. But I'm a bit concerned not being able to get a good enough weapon (so cheap and available on p99) as there will hardly be a market. Look forward to do my newbie armor quest though! :)

[DeathWalking]

I can almost guarantee that someone with either give you something better than a rusty weapon, or you'll see someone giving out gear in /ooc trying to clear up bank space. theyre all about helping out the new guy so everyones ready for kunark when it drops

[Tollen]

I probably have few weapons in bank, I won't be on till Monday night though

[Lorian]

Started a bard, but then decided to go for a ranger instead. Was given some plat and a bit of blackened alloy armor by some friendly players. Thanks! I bet i can level pretty quick soloing having all the good spots for myself, no hybrid penalty and 20% plus xp compared to p99. :)

[Lorian]

Must say that this server feels a helluva lot more 'classic' than p99. I do prefer the slick p99 UI and graphics though.

[Grimjaw]

^ mentions classic and then revamped runneye in consecutive posts

[BossThunderace]

I can almost guarantee that someone with either give you something better than a rusty weapon, or you'll see someone giving out gear in /ooc trying to clear up bank space. theyre all about helping out the new guy so everyones ready for kunark when it drops

RIP DeathWalking

[Efwan]

OP banned for being a retard, this is who's associated with that server. Let it show us how it won't conquer p99 or even red99 numbers

[Lorian]

^ mentions classic and then revamped runneye in consecutive posts

I said 'feels more classic'.

Content might be slightly newer but the graphics and user interface is pure old school. It looks exactly like when I was playing on live 2002. P99 might have classic content, but p2002 IS a classic server (at least for me who considers PoP classic). Has a bit of bugs though. And will hardly make me quit p99!

[Visual]

P99 is the (only) place to be

[Namfoodle]

OP banned for being a retard, this is who's associated with that server. Let it show us how it won't conquer p99 or even red99 numbers

That's the thing though, Deathwalking is only 'associated' with P2002 by being a player and posting here. BossThunderace isn't involved with the server in any official capacity, nor am I. The only people who are involved with the server officially that have posted in this thread in the past month are Warhogg (Lead GM/Content Development) and apio (Database guru).

I've said it before, but I'll repeat it now since this thread is hopefully slowing down. I would appreciat it if anybody didn't flame P99, or TAKP. These are three different emu servers trying to run a legit operation for different player bases.

P99 will be amazing once Velious is launched and working perfectly. Likewise P2002 will be another great server when PoP is fully functional. These are two servers that cater to similar, but not the same audiences. There is no benefit for anyone who wants P2002 to do well to flame P99. P99 was the first emu server that did really well for itself, and in a sense legitimized emu servers as something worth spending a TON of your time on. And flaming TAKP is just bad manners, especially when none of what p2002 wants to do would be possible without Secrets and the 'hacked' PC client.

Just have fun and play a game you enjoy, no need to flame and be mad over the internet.

-Javvo

[Lorian]

P99 will be amazing once Velious is launched and working perfectly. Likewise P2002 will be another great server when PoP is fully functional. These are two servers that cater to similar, but not the same audiences.

-Javvo

Amen to that! Why deny yourself a bit of PoP goodness (if you are into that) in between the p99 sessions? P2002 will not rival p99 red or blue in terms of population, and hardly cannibalize the p99 player pool.

[syzygyst]

OP banned for being a retard, this is who's associated with that server. Let it show us how it won't conquer p99 or even red99 numbers

So, -10 points from Ravenclaw for being stupid ^^^^^. That comment goes out to the ether for anyone it applies to . You know who you are. P2002 has some good people and I hope they do well.

[Haynar]

I play on takp. http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php

I like it there. More of a casual feel.

The biggest thing that kept me from trying it in the first place, was the fact that the person advertising it the most was the first person I put on ignore here at p99.

Try p2002 if u want. Or takp if u want. Ignore who is saying to play there. That might bias you from trying, and you will miss out.

The client is older, from 2002. So it does not have all the bells and whistles of titanium. It runs better full screen. If u box, its better on seperate computers.

Too bad OP got banned. Was almost good entertainment.

H

[BossThunderace]

I play on takp. http://www.takproject.net/forums/index.php

I like it there. More of a casual feel.

The biggest thing that kept me from trying it in the first place, was the fact that the person advertising it the most was the first person I put on ignore here at p99.

Try p2002 if u want. Or takp if u want. Ignore who is saying to play there. That might bias you from trying, and you will miss out.

The client is older, from 2002. So it does not have all the bells and whistles of titanium. It runs better full screen. If u box, its better on seperate computers.

Too bad OP got banned. Was almost good entertainment.

H


Three boxing p2002 works great on my computer this is 2015 not 2002.

Since you've expressed no desire to try p2002, please keep the peanuts in the gallery.

To everyone else, try it, and share your experience. So far people who have tried p2002 have reported they enjoy p2002.

[Jimjam]

Can Halfling ranger?

[BossThunderace]

Can Halfling ranger?

Yes,

Halfling Pally / Rangers

Gnome Pally / SKs

[Haynar]

Three boxing p2002 works great on my computer this is 2015 not 2002.

Since you've expressed no desire to try p2002, please keep the peanuts in the gallery.

To everyone else, try it, and share your experience. So far people who have tried p2002 have reported they enjoy p2002.
Thanks the shining example of the kind of people to be found there. You are your own biggest advertiser.

Go eat your peanuts.

[BossThunderace]

Thanks the shining example of the kind of people to be found there. You are your own biggest advertiser.

Go eat your peanuts.


Haynar, back to the gallery.



Just have fun and play a game you enjoy, no need to flame and be mad over the internet.

-Javvo

[bearhander]

If u box, its better on seperate computers.


H

this is the silliest thing i've read in awhile

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Three boxing p2002 works great on my computer this is 2015 not 2002.

Compared to Titanium it doesn't. In Titanium you don't need to release the mouse or use external programs for smooth window to window transitions. There's truly no comparing the two even if the mac client "works fine".

[BossThunderace]

Compared to Titanium it doesn't. In Titanium you don't need to release the mouse or use external programs for smooth window to window transitions. There's truly no comparing the two even if the mac client "works fine".

Pressing the control key + an arrow key to tab different desktops w/ an eq box.. works perfect for me. Can also swipe the box on my macbook if i feel like reaching that far, welcome to 2015.

[kaev]

Haynar, back to the gallery.

Why are you trying so hard to convince p99 players to stay the hell away from p2002?

[dbouya]

how many players concurrently does p2002 get up to on a good peek night?

[BossThunderace]

Why are you trying so hard to convince p99 players to stay the hell away from p2002?

To be clear, I am promoting:

Come check out p2002, participate as it grows into a thriving PoP era server. There are many new people leveling characters, some are single boxing. Global /ooc. Kunark will be released this Month. The players on p2002 are fun, helpful, and enjoy EQ. Main reason for playing here p2002 has a hands off GM policy like AK live.

[bearhander]

. Main reason for playing here you actually get to kill dragons on p2002

fixed

[Champion_Standing]

Compared to Titanium it doesn't. In Titanium you don't need to release the mouse or use external programs for smooth window to window transitions. There's truly no comparing the two even if the mac client "works fine".

I dunno boxing is the least of my concerns with it, I only 2 boxed a bit on that server but EQw just lets you set a hotkey so i just hit ` to swap back and forth...not sure how that works with 3 tho.

The client itself seems to work decently, loads up quick and I haven't had any serious issues with it. Has proper spell scribe speeds and I actually think the pathing and NPCs move more naturally and closer to classic than they do here on P99.

I just can't handle the 1st person camera or the terrible F9 views anymore.

[Haynar]

I like the features of the old client. Especially the blue and red lighting, with vision.

Technically speaking. It sucks. The directx crashes. The netcode is abysmal. And it has no native windowed mode.

H

[Lady Julae]

I'd play on 2002 if they:

1. Would get rid of the 2/3 box rules
2. Get rid of the Bazaar
3. Get rid of the Knowledge Books.

[Haynar]

I'd play on 2002 if they:

1. Would get rid of the 2/3 box rules
2. Get rid of the Bazaar
3. Get rid of the Knowledge Books.
You sound like someone who wants a server like p99.

Takp/p2002 are working towards being a pop server. They are just doing it in a progression as the finish zones. The intent is not to make a classic experience so much.

Luclin was bazaar time. Takp is not putting bazaar in until that content is out. I am guessing p2002 has it already? I dont know.

Boxing - If you dont like boxing, then all discussion ends. Dont play there. I am highly supportive of boxing. The boxing haters can stay on p99. Dont even try takp/p2002. Noone there wants to hear your anti-boxing tirades.

Knowledge books are great for travel. If you have 3 hrs to play every day and dont mind using half of it to travel, then knock yourself out. The books are staying sorry. But fill free to ignore them, and not use them.

H

[Namfoodle]

Kunark release date from Big Boragar! June 19th!

http://p2002.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=541

[Bill Tetley]

Boxing? Ewww

[Tiggles]

Heard multiple rumors that the adminsnof P2002 are using something to sniff out passwords on their server to steal P99 accounts.

I have no idea if that even is possible but its just what I heard.

[Wharhog]

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/be/be8b336ac1ca77132b5d6f6275f4f2e16a49d733c2ae664ecb 65968dd84d262c.jpg

[Haynar]

The loginserver could be used to get the plain text password. Pretty sure client sends it over unencrypted. This is why i said the loginserver should be managed better. So this is a risk.

So yes. They could steal passwords. So dont use same password there.

H

[BossThunderace]

Heard multiple rumors that the adminsnof P2002 are using something to sniff out passwords on their server to steal P99 accounts.

I have no idea if that even is possible but its just what I heard.

Tiggles = Troll

[BossThunderace]

The loginserver could be used to get the plain text password. Pretty sure client sends it over unencrypted. This is why i said the loginserver should be managed better. So this is a risk.

So yes. They could steal passwords. So dont use same password there.

H

They could also steal your passport and drivers license info, beware!

In other news, Kunark June 19th Release!

[Champion_Standing]

Just practice good security habits kids. Don't use the same username/pass on every site.

[Pringles]

Yeah... if you used your P99 info there, or any other EMU, change your P99 to ensure your chars are secure here. Not digging against them, but this is just internet 101.

[apio]

I can assure you that nobody on our development team has any desire to steal anyone's P99 account information, but if you use the same login information on different websites there is always a security risk. Best thing is to be proactive and avoid that

[Akillez]

Still playing they're and loving it, dont see why so much animosity between the two. They are different servers with different goals. If velious was your favorite or end goal stick to p99. If pop was your favorite or end goal give the other a try. The boxing comments are silly I haven't been turned down for any groups because of boxing. The people are pretty nice in general. If pop is your thing hope to see ya there, if not p99 is a great server as well have a blast there :). (I also hate the f9 and first person, but it's livable for Luclin and pop to me)

[Akillez]

(I don't box)

[Haynar]

I can assure you that nobody on our development team has any desire to steal anyone's P99 account information, but if you use the same login information on different websites there is always a security risk. Best thing is to be proactive and avoid that

I don't know ur development team. Its not just about them accessing the information. Its also about them keeping the data secure? EQEmu message boards passwords getting stolen 5 or 6 years ago sound familiar to anyone?

Really no different than a fansite running a message board. Noone has ever hacked into those before to steal passwords.

What is the history of the dev team? What is their experience in internet security? Are they IT experts?

Or are they ppl who got pissed of at how a server was run, and just decided to make their own server? That in itself is not significant. Running their own login server, is.

[Alarti0001]

I don't know ur development team. Its not just about them accessing the information. Its also about them keeping the data secure? EQEmu message boards passwords getting stolen 5 or 6 years ago sound familiar to anyone?

What is the history of the dev team? What is their experience in internet security? Are they IT experts?

Or are they ppl who got pissed of at how a server was run, and just decided to make their own server? That in itself is not significant. Running their own login server, is.

Well define professional... cause some of the devs who have worked/do work on p99 are kinda shithouses when it comes to IT security.

[Modus]

A careful study of diction and syntax leads me to believe that "apio" and "DeathWalking" are likely the same author, despite apparent attempts to conceal that fact via anachronism and dissimilar verbiage.

Perhaps Haynar or Secrets could look at the login patterns of the two posters? New IP each login?

[Haynar]

I dont have access to IP login info.

Thats part of our security. Limit who has access. But thats only one piece. I only have access to what I need. No more.

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[Wharhog]

LOL, Apio is Lance.....and Deathwalking is Forumshifter.

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I don't know ur development team. Its not just about them accessing the information. Its also about them keeping the data secure? EQEmu message boards passwords getting stolen 5 or 6 years ago sound familiar to anyone?

Really no different than a fansite running a message board. Noone has ever hacked into those before to steal passwords.

What is the history of the dev team? What is their experience in internet security? Are they IT experts?

Or are they ppl who got pissed of at how a server was run, and just decided to make their own server? That in itself is not significant. Running their own login server, is.

I am the IT Director of a school district, and Administrator(jetviper) is a Senior Software Engineer for a multi-million dollar company, Darkonites is a network engineer. So we really dont give a "sh*t" what your passwords are....and its the same reason we don't accept donations. We run this server because we love EQ and we want others to enjoy it too!

[dbouya]

The one classic feature I cannot abide in everquest play sessions is crashing a lot.

I know crashing and not running well is classic, but to me that wasn't what was part of the fun. I love night blindness. I just wish there was a way to have better directx code support AND night blindness instead of having to choose either or :(