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DeadlyReza
08-06-2015, 05:59 PM
I'll tell you...

I hear a lot of people stating that we shouldn't have the non classic UI, or scroll 3rd person, or med without the spell book, or extra chat windows with filters, or transparent boxes... the list goes on

But remember we are on velious xpac now, and i came in on this expansion, I have never used the classic UI I had scroll 3rd person, I could med with no spell book, and we had cable Internet at this time.

Luclin models I agree are not classic, but if you are going off the current state the server is at most of this stuff is.

So everyone needs to shut up now about the other stuff...

Anyway I can't remember everything so I am calling for others to say what they remember.

What was velious classic mechanics? It would be much easier and make more sense to go for this setup than 1999 vanilla classic

captnamazing
08-06-2015, 06:19 PM
p99 should be "classic" like Monet is classic. Like mother fucking Beethoven's Eroica symphony is classic. Project 1999 is the god damn Iliad of video games.

DeadlyReza
08-06-2015, 06:24 PM
p99 should be "classic" like Monet is classic. Like mother fucking Beethoven's Eroica symphony is classic. Project 1999 is the god damn Iliad of video games.

But you're talking about one item of history, this server spans 2 years of content, we are near 2001 so shouldn't we keep up with the server time line?

Ele
08-06-2015, 06:25 PM
Well considering P99 is essentially a long running beta server and the staff has intimated that it would like to do future releases with a proper timeline, it is quite appropriate to report and address earlier UI changes, functionalities, and issues implicated by such a timeline.

Classic UI

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/Fanra/Original_ui_zps945d0df5.jpg

Classic UI Full Screen Transparency

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Kemadin/mm02.jpg

Velious UI (Adds 4 hotkeys, windows can be moved and resized, still only 1 chat window

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/353333-everquest-the-scars-of-velious-windows-screenshot-big-battle.jpg

Ele
08-06-2015, 06:27 PM
But you're talking about one item of history, this server spans 4 years of content, we are near 2003 so shouldn't we keep up with the server time line?

No, the server spans less than 2 years of content at this point.

March 1999 -> December 2000

Sadre Spinegnawer
08-06-2015, 06:31 PM
I think there are some non-negotiable mechanics and economy things in play.

By mechanics, things like corpse retrieval. No instances. No AA's. No obsolence of traditional class roles like porting or needing for do buffs. There are other mechanics issues, but this is why Velious as a sensible stopping point. Mechanics still largely intact.

By economy, I think the point is, original release already had some mighty items. Kunark added some more, and Velious really fattened up the range of loots. But, to be "classic," I think it is non-negotiable that original release (or hard-fought-for Kunark) gear can't be made irrelevant. Hence again why Velious is a good stopping point.

Nerfing of mechanics and loot inflation kills eq. Classic = figuring out where to build the gameworld so that those two things are minimized as much as possible.

We already don't have proper gamma. Not classic. Anyway, I think those are the two big things: mechanics and economy.

edit: ENDURANCE mechanics implementation 2016! Do Eeeet!

Swish
08-06-2015, 06:46 PM
Well considering P99 is essentially a long running beta server and the staff has intimated that it would like to do future releases with a proper timeline, it is quite appropriate to report and address earlier UI changes, functionalities, and issues implicated by such a timeline.

Classic UI

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a326/Fanra/Original_ui_zps945d0df5.jpg

Classic UI Full Screen Transparency

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v223/Kemadin/mm02.jpg

Velious UI (Adds 4 hotkeys, windows can be moved and resized, still only 1 chat window

http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/353333-everquest-the-scars-of-velious-windows-screenshot-big-battle.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GyaUGaT.gif

indiscriminate_hater
08-06-2015, 06:48 PM
bring back the compass

stavio
08-06-2015, 07:22 PM
It's amazing to see how far this server has gone. I was here pretty close to day 1. Got a few characters with born dates of sub september 2009. A lot of people didn't even know this server has been up for so long.

Watching all the switches to make this server classic have been pretty awesome over the years. If we had a brand new server with all the changes that have taken place intact, then forced to use a classic/velious UI we would be as close to classic as I can remember.

I watched AA screen, target rings, dot stacking, snare/root stacking, shared bank, gnoll fang quest, 1 dmg to avoid pets eaten xp, compass, maps, target #, mobs with much much larger hit-boxes, mobs that moved at snail pace, and so much more go poof since I've been here.

I kind of feel bad being able to use most of the functions that was available at one time that no long exist.

If we ever get a fresh server, we would be in great shape towards a classic server with or without a classic/velious UI. We must not forget about the things under the hood that the Devs/Mods worked so hard on.

Sadre Spinegnawer
08-06-2015, 07:56 PM
It's amazing to see how far this server has gone.... We must not forget about the things under the hood that the Devs/Mods worked so hard on.

All true, but endurance mechanics plz

DeadlyReza
08-06-2015, 10:22 PM
No, the server spans less than 2 years of content at this point.

March 1999 -> December 2000


I updated my original post :) I got my timelines mixed up.

I was waiting for you to post some great info, that is exactly what I was looking for.

And what about the other mechanics, I swear that chat filtering, extra windows and themes were in then...

Maybe I'm getting mixed up with luclin though.

That velious UI would be amazing to use

captnamazing
08-06-2015, 11:03 PM
oy u fuckin chav don't u dare try to tell me the Siege of Troy was only 1 moment of time u fukin cheeki wanka

myriverse
08-07-2015, 06:57 AM
bring back the compass
Compass is still where it's always been. Go buy it from a vendor in EC tunnel.:D

Pyrion
08-07-2015, 08:30 AM
The moment when we have to stare at our spell books while medding is the moment when i quit.

It's classic. But it was a very bad choice back then.

rollin5k
08-07-2015, 09:58 AM
Only reason to call incoming lol
Should double required exp and Lower drop rates by half for the re 99 server too

Nuggie
08-07-2015, 10:02 AM
what version of "classic" should p99 be?

Which ever version nilbog wants. Let the creator create.

curtischoy
08-07-2015, 10:23 AM
Which ever version nilbog wants. Let the creator create.