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falkun
10-15-2015, 03:33 PM
Undead Bard mechanic:
1) After real Trakanon dies, a placeholder, non-KOS Undead Bard (UDB) spawns (UDB ~18hr [1][2]).
2) You turn in your lute body to UDB, he returns the body, becomes KOS.
3) Kill UDB, Trak spawns.
4) Kill Trak, congrats guts and single Trak BP.
5) UDB spawns again >=12hr later [3][4].
6) Once Trak spawns, UDB despawns [5].
7) Return to step 1.

[1] https://web.archive.org/web/20010420165608/http://www.eqdiva.com/quests/sss.asp
[2] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/quest.html?quest=756#m11509569936451
[3] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6415#m1437864697295241726
[4] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6415#m1369664102126822700
[5] http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6415#m120518636716186902

Undead Bard is also a merchant: http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/npc.html?id=6415#m120518636716186902

Alunova
10-15-2015, 04:00 PM
It's already been implemented, just waiting for the march 2001 timeline update.

falkun
10-15-2015, 04:26 PM
Sounds good, and honestly figured as much. But Daldaen suggested so here it is/was. Feel free to close it or whatever.

Daldaen
10-15-2015, 04:31 PM
Aye I felt it was worth a post, good to hear they're ahead of the curve on this stuff. Lots of stuff in March/April patches between epic changes and planar revamps that we couldn't have tested on beta, didn't know how much internal testing was done on it all.

Alunova
10-15-2015, 04:34 PM
If you want to do a breakdown post like this about the fay trigger it would help. Bard and VS are completed and tested(ish).

Fay will probably be the last one I do before I go back to work.

Daldaen
10-15-2015, 04:48 PM
From memory:

Hand Dwarf in TD Paradise Island the Froglok Essence. De spawns dwarf and spawns Faydedar.

Faydedar spawns in water and paths out towards the tunnel then aggros you.

Dwarf respawns 2 hours later.


Ill get on live to confirm the timing and stuff when I get home.

falkun
10-16-2015, 08:56 AM
UDB-Trak can drop any single item from his normal loot table (not just BPs):
(5/19/2001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20020105192614/http://pub45.ezboard.com/feqdivabardsofeverquestfrm8.showMessage?topicID=29 .topic
Trak 2 is alot easier than Regular Trak IMO. He is not buffed at all when he pops after trigger and on Drinal he went down in under 2 minutes. Trak1 (I Died) Trak2(No death) He drops only the guts and a chance of either a robe or BP First time we killed Trak2 dropped Mage robe, second time we killed Trak2 dropped Cobalt BP =) Hope that helps.
Court


Real Trak stops dropping guts:
(12/31/2001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20020102154629/http://pub45.ezboard.com/feqdivabardsofeverquestfrm8.showMessage?topicID=12 2.topic
real Trak = drops everything on his loot table xcept for guts

Undead Bard text:
https://web.archive.org/web/20010617051603/http://pub45.ezboard.com/feqdivabardsofeverquestfrm8.showMessage?topicID=7. topic
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:43 2001] You say, 'hail An Undead Bard'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:44 2001] An Undead Bard says 'Hail Bagba . Are you perchance a minstrel?'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:50 2001] You say, 'i am a minstrel'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:51 2001] An Undead Bard says 'I, too, am a bard, or was rather. I have
been cursed by that blasted pile of bones who calls itself, Trakanon'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:55 2001] You say, 'who is trakanon'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:55 2001] An Undead Bard says 'He is the undead dragon who rules this
realm. I came on a quest seeking strings for my new instrument.'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:58 2001] You say, 'what new instrument'
[Thu Mar 15 22:20:58 2001] An Undead Bard says 'I sought to create a Magical Lute.'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:01 2001] You say, 'what magical lute'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:02 2001] An Undead Bard says 'One that would make me the greatest bard
in all the lands! Are you on a similar quest?'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:06 2001] You say, 'i am on a similar quest'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:07 2001] An Undead Bard says 'Well then, I would ask you a favor for one
in return. If I bring that cursed dragon here, will you kill it for me?'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:18 2001] You say, 'yes i will kill it for you'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:18 2001] An Undead Bard says 'Excellent. I have stayed here far too long
and I wish to go to my eternal slumber. But before I do so, I ask for one last request'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:22 2001] You say, 'what last request'
[Thu Mar 15 22:21:22 2001] An Undead Bard says 'Give me the Mystical Lute you have. I will
return it, don't worry. I only wish to hold an instrument one last time before I leave.'


Post that Trak does not kill UDB?
(11/7/2001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20020108141641/http://pub45.ezboard.com/feqdivabardsofeverquestfrm8.showMessage?topicID=10 1.topic
Trakanon does not kill the undead bard...

I have seen both up at the same time and not fighting.

The theory is innaccurate.

Rararboker
10-16-2015, 11:08 AM
Sort of unrelated but what is "mage robe"? Are they referring to manna robe (all int lass usable) or does he get new drops added?

falkun
10-16-2015, 11:29 AM
No new drops, assuming the Manna Robe (http://wiki.project1999.com/Manna_Robe).

astuce999
10-19-2015, 09:52 AM
It's important to mention that spawned Trakanon only drops guts and 1 BP. He doesn't drop teeth, and I'm very confident he doesn't drop spells either.

Astuce

falkun
10-26-2015, 09:39 AM
I believe its not limited to BP, but a single undead dragongut strings and any of the items on his loot table excluding teeth and spells (like the robe, shawl, and cloak as well as the class BPs).

Man0warr
10-28-2015, 10:33 AM
Here is a news post from early 2002 saying they got a Cloak of Piety.

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4705

Oleris
10-30-2015, 05:22 PM
Here is a news post from early 2002 saying they got a Cloak of Piety.

http://www.erollisimarr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4705

nice

Daldaen
10-30-2015, 06:17 PM
I remember (I know not useful for classicquest) getting shoulders from my bards epic spawn and being extremely disappointed.

Then the second bard epic I did I got a Mana Robe $$$.

Erati
11-03-2015, 05:10 PM
I really dont think hes suppose to have full compliment of spells

need some research done on live to see if he poison AEs - seems wrong to make the epic 'easier' for casuals yet they still have to be capable of killing full fledge Trak which kinda defeats the purpose of the intent of these revamps

falkun
11-03-2015, 05:29 PM
He has his full compliment of spells from what we could tell. Poison AE, Blind, shroom.

Man0warr
11-03-2015, 05:45 PM
I really dont think hes suppose to have full compliment of spells

need some research done on live to see if he poison AEs - seems wrong to make the epic 'easier' for casuals yet they still have to be capable of killing full fledge Trak which kinda defeats the purpose of the intent of these revamps

I don't think the point was to make it easier to kill, just to make it so more Guts were entering the game.

Daldaen
11-03-2015, 05:50 PM
The reason for almost every epic change in the last patch, as stated in the dev notes of the time, was to reduce to competition on the epic dropping mobs for other loot.

IE - They wanted less people fighting Trakanon for BPs/Teeth while some bards just cared about Guts. So they split it up so the dudes fighting Trak for Teeth/BPs wouldn't interfere with Gut seeking bards.

Atleast that was their original intent.

My recollection says that Trak (spawned) should be lacking one of his abilities. I don't recall which one it is though. Maybe it was the lifetap? I dunno, I'll poke around on live and see if I can spawn the bard version one.

Man0warr
11-03-2015, 06:07 PM
VSR seemed on par with normal VS too, he was still lifetapping a bunch.