Red Scabbard Changes Missing

[Bill Tetley]

They made changes to the Red Scabbard in April of 2001 which did not appear in the P99 V41 Patch:


We've made a change to the Red Scabbard that should relieve most of the problems warriors were having with their epic weapon occasionally disappearing during conversion between the two-handed weapon and the two one-handed weapons. What will happen now is rather simple. The very next time you use the container to combine the weapons (or break them apart), the old scabbard will disappear and a new one will replace it.

THE NEW SCABBARD AND THE SWORDS WILL APPEAR ON YOUR CURSOR, rather than in your inventory. So once you have combined them, make sure to place them in your inventory. And don't panic, the items didn't disappear. smile But also MAKE CERTAIN THAT YOU HAVE ROOM IN YOUR INVENTORY FOR ALL THREE ITEMS (the two swords and the scabbard, which is a container and needs to be able to fit into your main inventory). If you end up with a No-Drop container on your cursor with no place to put it in your inventory, you will have a problem...

Also, right now the new scabbard is a little bugged. Right now you won't be able to open the new scabbard until you camp out once after it is created. We're working on fixing that bug. We decided to make this change even with this small bug to help relieve everyone of the problems with the old scabbard.

This new scabbard will have a special ability. It will be able to recreate the epic weapons if you have lost them. Simply place a Sword of Runes (summoned by a Magician) into the scabbard and hit the combine button. The scabbard will convert the temporary power of the Sword of Runes into the permanent epic sword.

Customer Service WILL NOT be replacing the old scabbards with the new ones. That will be done by the game itself once you have completed the quest and combined the swords for the first time.

Source - http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/20010417a.html

While we don't seem to have the problem on this server with the Swords vanishing in the current scabbard this did allow you to have the 2h version and both 1h versions at the same time.

Will this be implemented at some point?

Thanks for your dedication to this server Devs!

[arsenalpow]

You can have both simultaneously already. You just need to complete the 2nd part of the quest again. I believe the only major bottleneck is a 2nd Chardok Queen blade. Numerous BDA warriors don't carry their scabbard.

[khanable]

Shit, I deleted my scabbard

Just get both versions as chest said

[Bill Tetley]

You can have both simultaneously already. You just need to complete the 2nd part of the quest again. I believe the only major bottleneck is a 2nd Chardok Queen blade. Numerous BDA warriors don't carry their scabbard.

I understand this... but my guild has warriors that need the Queen Blade and it's rare enough as is. This only requires a summoned sword... thus why it's exciting to know it should exist right now yet does not.

[mropey]

but my guild has warriors that want the Queen Blade

FTFY.

Chardok Royals confirmed never camped anymore. Take a crew down and get those Blades if they want them!

[Ele]

I understand this... but my guild has warriors that need the Queen Blade and it's rare enough as is. This only requires a summoned sword... thus why it's exciting to know it should exist right now yet does not.

Might be tricky to implement depending on which version of the Red Scabbard is already in game (or if only one or both are in the P99 database) to prevent people from simply doing Scabbard part and adding a mage sword for epics.

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemraw.html?id=17859

http://lucy.allakhazam.com/itemraw.html?id=17869

Should be in tho

[khanable]

scabbard is still the difficult part - the blades are easy minus the queen blade

so really it'll save people a trip to chardok - still need green scale, red scale, and stupid hand of asshole deadsinger thing

[Bill Tetley]

FTFY.

Chardok Royals confirmed never camped anymore. Take a crew down and get those Blades if they want them!

We do... it never drops.

[evilkorn]

wow so many people that don't want a classic change....

[arsenalpow]

wow so many people that don't want a classic change....

I don't think anyone is against it, we're merely saying that there is a workaround that's currently available if one wanted to explore that avenue.

[Daldaen]

I'm curious how this actually works on live but I'm unsure I want to do an entire warrior epic to prove it.

Basically my thought is that maybe, on live the Red Scabbard you get from the quest, is the version we have now. That doesn't let you combine summoned swords in it.

However, once you complete the epic and have the above scabbard, the 2 hilts and 2 blades, when you click combine that first time, you get back your epics and a new scabbard, this one allowing you to do the summoned sword combines.

It's entirely possible if both of those item IDs exist on live still that this is how it works. It requires you combine the epic hilts and blades first to get the upgraded scabbard and from there you can get both the 1hs and the 2hs.

So the sword merging combine (1hs to 2hs) and the sword splitting combine (2hs to 1hs) works in either scabbard. But once you do the combine in Scabbard 1.0, you get back your epics and Scabbard 2.0. Which is why the patch notes say you need to do the combine once if you already had the scabbard.

Confirmed Theoryquest - No skipping Queen in Chardok.

[khanable]

Ah, word. Well done.

[Bill Tetley]

I'm curious how this actually works on live but I'm unsure I want to do an entire warrior epic to prove it.

Basically my thought is that maybe, on live the Red Scabbard you get from the quest, is the version we have now. That doesn't let you combine summoned swords in it.

However, once you complete the epic and have the above scabbard, the 2 hilts and 2 blades, when you click combine that first time, you get back your epics and a new scabbard, this one allowing you to do the summoned sword combines.

It's entirely possible if both of those item IDs exist on live still that this is how it works. It requires you combine the epic hilts and blades first to get the upgraded scabbard and from there you can get both the 1hs and the 2hs.

So the sword merging combine (1hs to 2hs) and the sword splitting combine (2hs to 1hs) works in either scabbard. But once you do the combine in Scabbard 1.0, you get back your epics and Scabbard 2.0. Which is why the patch notes say you need to do the combine once if you already had the scabbard.

Confirmed Theoryquest - No skipping Queen in Chardok.

So in order to get Scabbard 2.0 that uses the 'summoned sword' you need to do a combine of the hilts and blades again? Sounds like nothing changed... how is this patch helpful?

[Ele]

So in order to get Scabbard 2.0 that uses the 'summoned sword' you need to do a combine of the hilts and blades again? Sounds like nothing changed... how is this patch helpful?

edit: re-read

No, you would just need to do the break-apart combine in the scabbard with the epics you already had. Not redo the whole quest. Everyone logging after that patch or doing the quest for the first time would get Scabbard 1.0. After you finish epic for the first time or do the break-apart the first time after logging in that day, you would get Scabbard 2.0.

[Daldaen]

So in order to get Scabbard 2.0 that uses the 'summoned sword' you need to do a combine of the hilts and blades again? Sounds like nothing changed... how is this patch helpful?

To be more clear:

Scabbard 1.0 = Item ID 17859
Scabbard 2.0 = Item ID 17869

Jagged Blade of War (2h) = Item ID 10908
Blade of Tactics (1h) = Item ID 10909
Blade of Strategy (1h) = Item ID 10910

Currently on P99, only Scabbard 1.0 (17859) exists. In the server code it allows two combines to be done in this container. The merging of the blades and the splitting of the blades. In both of these combines you keep the container, I.E. It doesn't get consumed in the combine (like PoSky recharging box does).

Container = 17859

Components to be Combined = 10909 + 10910

Result from Combine = 10908

OR

Container = 17859

Components to be Combined = 10908

Result from Combine = 10909 + 10910

However after the patch... These change. Instead of the container not being consumed, it does get consumed the very first time you use one of the combines after the patch... however, as a result, the combine yields Scabbard 2.0.


Container (When you combine now this goes poof) = 17859

Components to be Combined = 10908

Result from Combine = 10909 + 10910 + 17869

This results in Scabbard 1.0 poofing from your inventory, and Scabbard 2.0 being on your cursor along with the 2 1handed blades. Would work the same as splitting the 2h.

[Bill Tetley]

Ahhh ok. But currently it's not doing that.

[Daldaen]

And that is the bug.

The current version of the Scabbard that everyone gets from the quest / currently has, needs to get consumed in the split or merge combine, and the 2nd version of the Scabbard needs to be one of the results from this combine.

That 2nd scabbard needs a new recipe added to it which includes 2 Summoned Swords combined inside to yield the epics.

So it's modifying 2 existing combines and adding a new combine for the new scabbard and summoned blades.

[Bill Tetley]

Any word on this being fixed next patch?

[Bill Tetley]

Sorry, just don't want this to be missed. Any discussion? Thanks!

[Bill Tetley]

Can we please get a reason why this was skipped, ignored, or over looked again? We go out of the way to make our helmets look ugly as sin yet skip a part of a timeline patch like this again?

[Bill Tetley]

Don't want this lil gem to get buried. Maybe next patch? Pleaseeee

[nilbog]

This new scabbard will have a special ability. It will be able to recreate the epic weapons if you have lost them. Simply place a Sword of Runes (summoned by a Magician) into the scabbard and hit the combine button. The scabbard will convert the temporary power of the Sword of Runes into the permanent epic sword.


What should you combine in scabbard 2.0 ? Is it only 1x Summoned: Sword of Runes to make the 2hander?

[Daldaen]

http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/recipe.html?recipe=48176

Single summoned sword, yep!

[nilbog]

Fixed, pending update