Climate Change

[Fame]

Yay or nay?

I'm a yay guy but not a scientist. I live a semi-subsistence lifestyle and have noticed a dramatic change in the land and food available for harvest each year. It seems to only be getting worse for almost every type of food harvest plants, animals, and seafood. I'm just a human so this could just be part of a larger cycle that I am unaware of.

What do you think? Also, if ya feel like soapboxin, why?

**For the sake of clarity and the average academic level here on p99, lets stick to simple sentences and emotion. **

[Big_Japan]

I live pretty far inland from a major body of water, like several hours drive, and there are seals outside my winter abode on the shore of the river yapping all night. Local paper is saying the glacier they used to reside on has been melted away and they were washed up the river by the current formed from the melting icewater. I for one think the Employment Prevention Agency should do something about this before I lose my mind from lack of sleep.

[Baler]

It's Cloud Seeding MAN they're trying to kill us all MAN.
Don't you see it MAN! It's all a big cover up MAN!
*Pulls Tinfoil Hat Down Over Eyes*

[Pokesan]

http://i.imgur.com/YRv0TXd.jpg

[Lurikeen]

Climate change is a social construct.

[iruinedyourday]

I think it's pretty obvious that you should not spend large amounts of money on a gasoline powered commuter car if you intend to keep it for 5+ years.

I feel exactly the same about fossil fuels. If you want to invest in sources of power, they are not what you should be spending money on for once again, obvious reasons. The cost to obtain, the fact that there is a finite amount of it, the aftereffects of use all imply that money invested should be invested elsewhere.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

I grew up learning about pollution being the problem. The interesting thing is that most things that lessen/eliminate the production of pollution also lessen/eliminate the release of hydrocarbons in the atmosphere.

Why didn't we just stick to that? Global warming won't kill you, literal poison does.
http://i.imgur.com/1lSdRLx.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

If there is one thing I know for sure. p99 forum posters and players will definitly know how to better solve our environmental problems.

[Nibblewitz]

Carbon dioxide is an effective greenhouse gas. We, humans, have dumped a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that wouldn't be present otherwise. Anthropologic climate change is a thing. How impactful is it? No clue.

[Pokesan]

Carbon dioxide is an effective greenhouse gas. We, humans, have dumped a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere that wouldn't be present otherwise. Anthropologic climate change is a thing. How impactful is it? No clue.

let's do nothing until we know the exact position and origin of every greenhouse gas particle in the atmosphere

further study is needed

[Nibblewitz]

let's do nothing until we know the exact position of every greenhouse gas particle in the atmosphere

further study is needed

That's the crux of the problem, isn't it. We can all agree that our footprint is changing the climate, but how important is that to us and our agendas?

[Lurikeen]

let's do nothing until we know the exact position and origin of every greenhouse gas particle in the atmosphere

further study is needed

We can still club seals and hunt polar bears. No need to get all radical.

[iruinedyourday]

I think whatever we do, we should at least try to spill as much oil and burn as many forests we can in the process.

[Daywolf]

pff lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf79Dc4gzR0

[Psionide]

let's do nothing until we know the exact position and origin of every greenhouse gas particle in the atmosphere

further study is needed

Wait, are we talking about fracking?

[maskedmelon]

Things we know:

1. Pollution is bad.
2. Diversity is good.
3. Earth has been here for about 4,500,000,000 years.
4. Tangible climate data has been here for about 200 years.
5. Climate priests have been unable to accurately model climate change.

Should we dump toxic waste in rivers? No
Should we dump raw sewage into the ocean? No.
Should we transfer trillions of dollars of wealth to third world countries so they can pollute and destroy threatened habitats anyway? No.
Do people contribute to climate change? Still dunno.

[Lune]

Do people contribute to climate change? Still dunno.

Allow me to educate you: they do, and it's the consensus of modern science.

[Daywolf]

5. Climate priests have been unable to accurately model climate change.
Understatement hehe. Remember Al's fun little trip to witness first hand polar bears drowning in a sea for melted ice? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3aBRDKZASc
Accurate model? They cant even plot a safe course through their sheer absurdity and not get sunk. All hands abandon ship!

[Daywolf]

2. Diversity is good.
Since someone else called that out I'll make a quick comment. I mean it is good, apparently, but I'm sure you would agree that though something may be good doesn't necessarily mean that it cant be exploited and used for bad; predominantly by bad people that hijack good things which happens far too often. Not speaking of the diversity movement in general, I'm sure, just the diversity in regards to energy production to fit the topic.

And it is abused far too often for political and monetary gain. In fact I would say to the degree of having the reverse effect desired. To that end the result of causing even more pollution rather than less. To deny energy production that would benefit the populous of the world and not leave most in the dark. This while such people make money hand over fist in the name of "green energy".

[maskedmelon]

Allow me to educate you: they do, and it's the consensus of modern science.

Thank you Lune. How foolish of me to question.

[Daywolf]

Nah it's not good. Look at the crime rates in homogeneous societies vs crime rates in so called "Diverse" areas like detroit and compton.
I'mmm pretty sure he/she is speaking about diverse forms of energy technology/production, at least in the context of what was written...
e.g coal vs exploration in cold fusion etc. Diversity in the exploration of alternate energy sources. An advance in technological understanding with an application towards modern and future energy demands.

Yet this is something that has been pursued long before the alarmist global warming advocacy was even a twinkle in it's fathers eye. Technological advances are sure to come, given time, but in the here and now we have what is available to us and should be used to it's full potential, not abandoned for something we do not have nor likely to have for decades to come. Those things should be explored, yes.

[maskedmelon]

I'mmm pretty sure he/she is speaking about diverse forms of energy technology/production, at least in the context of what was written...
e.g coal vs exploration in cold fusion etc. Diversity in the exploration of alternate energy sources. An advance in technological understanding with an application towards modern and future energy demands.

Yet this is something that has been pursued long before the alarmist global warming advocacy was even a twinkle in it's fathers eye. Technological advances are sure to come, given time, but in the here and now we have what is available to us and should be used to it's full potential, not abandoned for something we do not have nor likely to have for decades to come. Those things should be explored, yes.

I was generalizing. From product variation in the marketplace to genetic variation within populations and variations in perspective on topics. I agree with all of what you said though.

[iruinedyourday]

Nah it's not good. Look at the crime rates in homogeneous societies vs crime rates in so called "Diverse" areas like detroit and compton.

Good =\= low crime rates

Also who tha fuck thinks Detroit is diverse lol

O I get it..

Well whose two spots are still better than the Bible Belt

[maskedmelon]

Theres plenty of genetic variation within a single ethnic group to accomplish what genetic variance is meant to accomplish.

Perhaps, but that is not my point nor was the opposite. The point is that it is absolutely essential.

[iruinedyourday]

Children of mixed race have stronger immune systems and when in similar environments have higher iq. This is known as evolution.

[iruinedyourday]

This

http://i.imgur.com/YcGMnVU.jpg

becomes this

http://i.imgur.com/55kMhup.jpg

every tim

[Daywolf]

And there you have the reason and solution to global warming, folks!

Personally I just call it spring, summer, winter and fall... :)

[iruinedyourday]

Fall of the white mans control of the system

[maskedmelon]

Children of mixed race have stronger immune systems and when in similar environments have higher iq. This is known as evolution.

This is an interesting assertion given the prevailing argument I've seen from geneticists is that genetic variation between races is no more significant than variation within races.

Intuitively it makes sense though and goes hand in hand with what I am saying. It wouldn't surprise me. Given that IQ is intensely correlated with brain size though I'd be curious to see the effect specifically on Asians given their already superior IQs and more ideal cranial shapes.

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/55kMhup.jpg

every tim

She is dripping excess IQ to be certain.

[iruinedyourday]

What IRYD is citing is age old zionist propaganda. Notice jews dont mix races

and look how where that (overly fucking stupid claim by FP) got em

http://i.imgur.com/dPxPh4V.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

Last edited by Filthy_Pagan; Today at 02:33 PM..

l2post kid

[iruinedyourday]

original post:

i am a faggot that hates himself

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Reported.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

IRYD confirmed mad

using libsmrt ad hominem when ze loses a debate like some kind of overly emotional schoolpenguin

Fixt for PC bro.

[maskedmelon]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan
IRYD confirmed mad

using libsmrt ad hominem when ze loses a debate like some kind of overly emotional schoolpenguin
Fixt for PC bro.

Lol

[ronasch]

Why do greenhouses Pump CO2 into Greenhouses?
To improve vegetation.
Optimal CO2 levels in greenhouses?
800ppm-1400ppm

Earth's CO2 levels?
400ppm

Conclusion:
We could use some more CO2, and man's affect on the earth is negligible, because we are so heavily outnumbered by plant life which consumes CO2. Photosynthesis ftw

[Fame]

Why do greenhouses Pump CO2 into Greenhouses?
To improve vegetation.
Optimal CO2 levels in greenhouses?
800ppm-1400ppm

Earth's CO2 levels?
400ppm

Conclusion:
We could use some more CO2, and man's affect on the earth is negligible, because we are so heavily outnumbered by plant life which consumes CO2. Photosynthesis ftw

shit might have changed my life

[ronasch]

Thank you Lune. How foolish of me to question.

This is just a perfect time to say: Rudyard Kipling anyone?



The Gods of the Copybook Headings




AS I PASS through my incarnations in every age and race,
I make my proper prostrations to the Gods of the Market Place.
Peering through reverent fingers I watch them flourish and fall,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all.

We were living in trees when they met us. They showed us each in turn
That Water would certainly wet us, as Fire would certainly burn:
But we found them lacking in Uplift, Vision and Breadth of Mind,
So we left them to teach the Gorillas while we followed the March of Mankind.

We moved as the Spirit listed. They never altered their pace,
Being neither cloud nor wind-borne like the Gods of the Market Place,
But they always caught up with our progress, and presently word would come
That a tribe had been wiped off its icefield, or the lights had gone out in Rome.

With the Hopes that our World is built on they were utterly out of touch,
They denied that the Moon was Stilton; they denied she was even Dutch;
They denied that Wishes were Horses; they denied that a Pig had Wings;
So we worshipped the Gods of the Market Who promised these beautiful things.

When the Cambrian measures were forming, They promised perpetual peace.
They swore, if we gave them our weapons, that the wars of the tribes would cease.
But when we disarmed They sold us and delivered us bound to our foe,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "Stick to the Devil you know."

On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "The Wages of Sin is Death."

In the Carboniferous Epoch we were promised abundance for all,
By robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul;
But, though we had plenty of money, there was nothing our money could buy,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: "If you don't work you die."

Then the Gods of the Market tumbled, and their smooth-tongued wizards withdrew
And the hearts of the meanest were humbled and began to believe it was true
That All is not Gold that Glitters, and Two and Two make Four
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings limped up to explain it once more.

As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;

And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!

[Pokesan]

Why do greenhouses Pump CO2 into Greenhouses?
To improve vegetation.
Optimal CO2 levels in greenhouses?
800ppm-1400ppm

Earth's CO2 levels?
400ppm

Conclusion:
We could use some more CO2, and man's affect on the earth is negligible, because we are so heavily outnumbered by plant life which consumes CO2. Photosynthesis ftw

CO2 good for plants
CO2 bad for humans

This poster is a plant plant. Plants are not as smart as people. He was planted here to derail the discussion, delaying action on climate change until such times as plants can inherit the world.

I'm wise to your tricks, cactus fag

http://i.imgur.com/Vt8Bow5.png

[ronasch]

CO2 good for plants
CO2 bad for humans

This poster is a plant plant. Plants are not as smart as people. He was planted here to derail the discussion, delaying action on climate change until such times as plants can inherit the world.

I'm wise to your tricks, cactus fag

http://i.imgur.com/Vt8Bow5.png


Since when was the green movement about humans, hasn't it always been about hugging trees and hating humans?
All those people dying and ill from working in greenhouses that pump CO2 into it to increase vegetation is a serious epidemic. Lawlz

[maskedmelon]

Actually, this thread from our friends over in the Druid forum suggests plants may not be as dumb as we think:

https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2183488#post2183488

[Pokesan]

Since when was the green movement about humans, hasn't it always been about hugging trees and hating humans?

You will not fool me, CO2 scumbag. I will peel, slice, and roast your succulent flesh.

It's cactus salad tonight!

[Pokesan]

maybe tree's are playing everquest, and WE are the class/race combos they chose.

GLOBAL TREE CONSPIRACY CONFIRMED!

THEY'RE USING POLLEN TO CONTROL OUR THOUGHTS, CHUG WHITE VINEGAR TO STAY AWAKE

OKANAGON COUNTY WAS A FALSE FLAG

[Daywolf]

4. Tangible climate data has been here for about 200 years.On this point though, not really. I mean yes, we have data from select areas, but nothing to determine a true world average, not then and not now. Still today, this is ever changing data taken from select points on the globe, even around growing cities with increasing solar radiation from their concrete and reflections. While other spots on the globe are nearly entirely un-monitored.

It's treated more as a census, or a poll, rather than a true scientific process with observation and result of an entire observed subject. How can such a process be accurate when datapoints are so limited within the observed subject? In the end, it comes down to interpretation utilizing ever changing data, in which any outcome can be manifested to suit the desired results.

[ronasch]

Thank you Lune. How foolish of me to question.

Don't you know questioning science is prohibitive to the progress of man.
Ask any Progressive...lol

[Pokesan]

Don't you know questioning science is prohibitive to the progress of man.
Ask any Progressive...lol

imagine a child who keeps touching the stove then demanding an explanation when it burns him

that's the adults, the left, explaining this shit to you bible retards for the thousandth time

[maskedmelon]

On this point though, not really. I mean yes, we have data from select areas, but nothing to determine a true world average, not then and not now. Still today, this is ever changing data taken from select points on the globe, even around growing cities with increasing solar radiation from their concrete and reflections. While other spots on the globe are nearly entirely un-monitored.

It's treated more as a census, or a poll, rather than a true scientific process with observation and result of an entire observed subject. How can such a process be accurate when datapoints are so limited within the observed subject? In the end, it comes down to interpretation utilizing ever changing data, in which any outcome can be manifested to suit the desired results.

Yep, and large chunks of data (for sea ice for example) receive modifiers to correct for stupid changes in practice like bringing buckets of water on board boat to take the temperature rather than taking it in the water. And I was being generous with the 200 figure, but the point is that relative to the estimated age of the earth at 4,500,000,000 years it is a statistically insignificant figure.

[Big_Japan]

gay thread

[Sidelle]

Environmentalism: the new world religion. Better get used to it. :D

http://i.imgur.com/lk9lL9B.jpg

[Daywolf]

Environmentalism: the new world religion. Better get used to it. :D

http://i.imgur.com/lk9lL9B.jpg

Ah yeah, though if the high guru's of this absurdity get their way, you can remove all those living bodies from that image. To them, the nirvana they seek is reincarnating into slugs on a human-less planet.

[iruinedyourday]

You identify in fantasy games as a dog that casts nature spells

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

You identify in fantasy games as a dog that casts nature spells

I know who you are now.

[Daywolf]

You identify in fantasy games as a dog that casts nature spellsAnd eats wood elves to keep up strength so to track and clear mobs in the path of irritating swarm kite bards. Your point?

[iruinedyourday]

Just don't see why you hate tree huggers so much.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Just don't see why you hate tree huggers so much.

I know who you are now.

[Big_Japan]

when you are trying to quantify Zimzam's contribution to society you can't just leave it at "1 kill 0 deaths in the race war". You have to consider all of the unsupported children Trayvon would 100% guaranteed have spawned, which George Soros would have then trained to beat other White mens' heads upon the pavement. Yes, I just implied that Zimmerman is White. He has earned it.

If you look at things on a geologic time scale, this single act of self-defense by Zimmerman did not simply save his own skin, or remove one dangerous feral primate from the community, but in fact deleted a spawn point from which trillions of similar entities may have eventually come into being (assuming of course that enough White people will exist in the future to support that many). That's trillions of future incidents of self-defense, and trillions of potential deaths of White people, that were rendered unnecessary.

Taking the widest and most future-oriented perspective possible of the incident, a stepping outside oneself that is sorely missing from most modern discourse thanks to our culture of instant gratification, it immediately becomes clear that Zimmerman is a soldier and leader on par in terms of long-term impact with an Achilles or Ulysses, or a Caesar. Indeed, the inspiration provided by realizing that a single bullet worth about $1.00 at walmart can destroy the potential for existence of trillions of future threats to your children should be enough to motivate you to take appropriate action when the opportunity is presented to you.

Good luck my brothers and on this day of celebrating the fact that no 21st celebration will come for this euthanized monster, forget not your duty to your people.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

when you are trying to quantify Zimzam's contribution to society you can't just leave it at "1 kill 0 deaths in the race war". You have to consider all of the unsupported children Trayvon would 100% guaranteed have spawned, which George Soros would have then trained to beat other White mens' heads upon the pavement. Yes, I just implied that Zimmerman is White. He has earned it.

If you look at things on a geologic time scale, this single act of self-defense by Zimmerman did not simply save his own skin, or remove one dangerous feral primate from the community, but in fact deleted a spawn point from which trillions of similar entities may have eventually come into being (assuming of course that enough White people will exist in the future to support that many). That's trillions of future incidents of self-defense, and trillions of potential deaths of White people, that were rendered unnecessary.

Taking the widest and most future-oriented perspective possible of the incident, a stepping outside oneself that is sorely missing from most modern discourse thanks to our culture of instant gratification, it immediately becomes clear that Zimmerman is a soldier and leader on par in terms of long-term impact with an Achilles or Ulysses, or a Caesar. Indeed, the inspiration provided by realizing that a single bullet worth about $1.00 at walmart can destroy the potential for existence of trillions of future threats to your children should be enough to motivate you to take appropriate action when the opportunity is presented to you.

Good luck my brothers and on this day of celebrating the fact that no 21st celebration will come for this euthanized monster, forget not your duty to your people.

Quoted because I know who IRYD's green name is now.

[maskedmelon]

J, you either drunk or tryin' for a ban.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

J, you either drunk or tryin' for a ban.

Did you catch the thread that was deleted after only 70 seconds (IRYD being one of 3 thread viewers).

[maskedmelon]

Quoted because I know who IRYD's green name is now.

Do share!

[maskedmelon]

Did you catch the thread that was deleted after only 70 seconds (IRYD being one of 3 thread viewers).

No, I was murdering skeletons I ESO T.T

[Big_Japan]

ESO

i knew you belonged in our beloved Society

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

The only green name on right now.

I've also tested by PMing that name several bannable posts of IRYD resulting in 0 replies and 0 vacation time for him.

[Big_Japan]

The only green name on right now.

I've also tested by PMing that name several bannable posts of IRYD resulting in 0 replies and 0 vacation time for him.

looking into relevant post histories this is actually quite plausible. The only thing I'm not on board with fully is the idea that IRYD can post without major spelling errors. Other than that their writing styles are actually quite similar (that cartoon the green you refer to likes to repost is def IRYD type of taste).

One of the better tinfoil theories I have seen round here.

[Daywolf]

Just don't see why you hate tree huggers so much.
Which ones? The ones that like and plant trees? The ones that make it illegal to remove dry dead tinder from the forests and then cry foul if the fire department try to put out the out of control forest fire? Or the ones that meet at jet-set locations around the world for conventions covering topics such as of population control to the levels of 0 to save the four footed beasts that they worship and wish to reincarnate into one day?

I like trees.

[maskedmelon]

Well that explains a lot.

[maskedmelon]

i knew you belonged in our beloved Society

Been trying to figure our why it went FTP. It's so goog.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

Notice how he shut the fuck up all of the sudden.

[maskedmelon]

Yep, I think you're right.

[Daywolf]

Been trying to figure our why it went FTP. It's so goog.
Because the game wasn't meant for ES fans? They said that they were aiming for a "wider audience" ... *cough* WoW players *cough*... in their pre-launch interview.

But they didn't get that ""wider audience"", nor the millions of fans of ES, so it went f2p to rape and pillage 'big whales/cash cows' that wander in.

[maskedmelon]

There is so much to do though and so mch flexibility in character customization. A bit faster paced than I can keep up with though. But then I thought VSoH was great too /shrug.

[Daywolf]

There is so much to do though and so mch flexibility in character customization. A bit faster paced than I can keep up with though. But then I thought VSoH was great too /shrug.Oooooh Vanguard. You should have tried AC2, then you would have a true litmus test of what bad truly is :D
I don't know if ESO is good or bad, but just that it's not really ES by many ES fan opinions. I think rightfully so since the developers were not trying for ES style gaming.

AC2 was printed and put on shelves for sale, a horrible way to shorten our lives with Co2 gas emissions that will one day cut our young lives short short short... much like the whole E.T. landfill incident :D

[iruinedyourday]

https://i.imgur.com/u51U40V.gif

[barrettdc1]

when you are trying to quantify Zimzam's contribution to society you can't just leave it at "1 kill 0 deaths in the race war". You have to consider all of the unsupported children Trayvon would 100% guaranteed have spawned, which George Soros would have then trained to beat other White mens' heads upon the pavement. Yes, I just implied that Zimmerman is White. He has earned it.

If you look at things on a geologic time scale, this single act of self-defense by Zimmerman did not simply save his own skin, or remove one dangerous feral primate from the community, but in fact deleted a spawn point from which trillions of similar entities may have eventually come into being (assuming of course that enough White people will exist in the future to support that many). That's trillions of future incidents of self-defense, and trillions of potential deaths of White people, that were rendered unnecessary.

Taking the widest and most future-oriented perspective possible of the incident, a stepping outside oneself that is sorely missing from most modern discourse thanks to our culture of instant gratification, it immediately becomes clear that Zimmerman is a soldier and leader on par in terms of long-term impact with an Achilles or Ulysses, or a Caesar. Indeed, the inspiration provided by realizing that a single bullet worth about $1.00 at walmart can destroy the potential for existence of trillions of future threats to your children should be enough to motivate you to take appropriate action when the opportunity is presented to you.

Good luck my brothers and on this day of celebrating the fact that no 21st celebration will come for this euthanized monster, forget not your duty to your people.

http://i.imgur.com/H0euQYb.jpg

[iruinedyourday]

That was the worst post of the year.

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

here we go again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDj4DH4mJw)

[Daywolf]

here we go again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDj4DH4mJw)
Oh! the oppression! Like... life w/o Obama as president :eek:
The oppression seeps and festers..
The only true climate change I guess.

[iruinedyourday]

I nominate the above two posts as the new, worst posts of the year.

[Daywolf]

But the video doesn't actually answer the question though...
I mean, why not?? A whole month of it! Where is our month?
:/

[Lune]

here we go again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDj4DH4mJw)

RAGE

[Big_Japan]

here we go again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDj4DH4mJw)

she snaps her fingers and suddenly they are dressed 10000x better (except they are wearing crocs) but it's supposed to be "lame"? We really aren't meant to live side by side

[iruinedyourday]

here we go again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nHDj4DH4mJw)

And again (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U1iCZpFMYd0)

[Pokesan]

i told you assholes to stop linking super long videos

don't make me tell you twice

[Big_Japan]

i told you assholes to stop linking super long videos

don't make me tell you twice

this 1 is worth it tho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7Xq111of4)

[Pokesan]

good god that was annoying

[Daywolf]

this 1 is worth it tho (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ba7Xq111of4)
Winning! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3mxVjB4aqI)

Of course, the climate change advocate video...

[barrettdc1]

Jesus christ thats the mos racist fucking thing ive ever seen

fucking christ that made me mad

Lol, I ragequit that video.

"If it weren't for black people, nothing would exist" is the message they're trying to convey in that video.

[iruinedyourday]

Lol, I ragequit that video.

"If it weren't for black people, nothing would exist" is the message they're trying to convey in that video.

what are you trying to convey, that the black people that were involved very literately with every invention or historical moment listed in said video, were ineffectual?

[Big_Japan]

that one monkey we shot up into space contributed more to science than I, ill give him that

[iruinedyourday]

http://i.imgur.com/xNvYkQu.jpg

[Psionide]

Sees thread about climate change discussion, (people still refute this? its like the ONE thing scientists universally agree on, hell its less debated than evolution vs creationism which is lol) skips to last page, of course thread is about racial shit.

[Big_Japan]

Sees thread about climate change discussion, (people still refute this? its like the ONE thing scientists universally agree on, hell its less debated than evolution vs creationism which is lol) skips to last page, of course thread is about racial shit.

At one time scientists universally agreed the world was flat. At one time scientists universally agreed vaccines didn't cause autism. At one time political scientists universally agreed integration would work.

[Psionide]

Please show me where at any point in time scientists and scholars believed the Earth was really flat? This is a popular myth people perpetuate for some reason. The Ancient Greeks knew the earth was a sphere and that is what the majority of scholars went by back then. As for autism and vaccines I'm not even going to go there because its embarrassing. Oh, and if you think integration hasn't worked I don't know what to tell you considering America is an integrated country and America has been the number 1 world power for oh quite some time now?

[Big_Japan]

Please show me where at any point in time scientists and scholars believed the Earth was really flat? This is a popular myth people perpetuate for some reason. The Ancient Greeks knew the earth was a sphere and that is what the majority of scholars went by back then. As for autism and vaccines I'm not even going to go there because its embarrassing. Oh, and if you think integration hasn't worked I don't know what to tell you considering America is an integrated country and America has been the number 1 world power for oh quite some time now?

America was securely #1 world power when integration started. Now desperately clinging to that position through increasingly laughable military flexing while lacking the treasury to back any major operation against a real nation state. But integration worked?

[Psionide]

I guess we will have to disagree on America's current standing but its been a popular idea that America is on the brink of collapse for how long now? If integration hasn't worked it must not have been that bad cuz America is still doing its same shit its always been doing.

[Big_Japan]

it's been a popular idea because we have been standing on the brink for decades. Now there are brown hordes crushing against our backs inching us over that ledge.

[iruinedyourday]

I guess we will have to disagree on America's current standing but its been a popular idea that America is on the brink of collapse for how long now? If integration hasn't worked it must not have been that bad cuz America is still doing its same shit its always been doing.

Pol been saying its on the brink of collapse since 1776

[mmmroo]

Stop eating meat and you will do more good then not driving a car.

[Daywolf]

the earth is flat guys
Not just the Earth, but it's possible that the entire verse is a 2d plane (http://motherboard.vice.com/read/there-is-growing-evidence-that-our-universe-is-a-giant-hologram).

[mmmroo]

But we're omnivores, not malnourished prey animals.

Keep eating that hormone filled meat , enjoy cancer later in life.

[mmmroo]

Staying on topic though, upon further investigation i suspect that the earth might actually be flat.

i hope your joking, because this flat earth shit is getting too much press.

[iruinedyourday]

thats because there are 4 lights.

[Daywolf]

Do the experiment with two objects of the same size and a flash light on a flat surface.

The shadows aren't the same size.
Maybe because you were watching it...? One or the other? :D You think that is weird? Try the double slit experiment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXQjRBLwsQ).

[Soandso]

Wait fleshlights have actual lights?

[iruinedyourday]

a flash light has 1 light

you need glasses to correct your poor genes

there are 4 lights

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

thats because there are 4 lights.

there are 4 lights

http://i.imgur.com/uiEmSx0.jpg

[maskedmelon]

http://i.imgur.com/uiEmSx0.jpg

Wait fleshlights have actual lights?

there are 4 lights

Maybe??

[iruinedyourday]

Maybe??

There are!

[Daywolf]

There are!
You WILL sign it! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5l3g2d3qf0)

(and Picard considered that an interrogation?? hehe)

[iruinedyourday]

You WILL sign it! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5l3g2d3qf0)

(and Picard considered that an interrogation?? hehe)

I can tell you who wouldnt, cruiz and trump kek

[Daywolf]

Do I hear gurgling sounds? Sweet-sweet gurgling sounds.

[Fame]

Try the double slit experiment (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXQjRBLwsQ).

This is one of my all time favorites. Haven't looked at it in a long time, do they have any explanation? Or is the theory still that observation varies the experiments outcome? Our observation alone might actually be creating reality :eek:

[Pokesan]

please do not take any scene from What the Bleep Do We Know seriously

[maskedmelon]

Yeah, it's pretty simple. It only passes through one it. And, it only passes through the other slit. It also passes through both slits, as well as neither. It does this all at once. Or were you looking for an answer that makes sense? ^^

[Daywolf]

This is one of my all time favorites. Haven't looked at it in a long time, do they have any explanation? Or is the theory still that observation varies the experiments outcome? Our observation alone might actually be creating reality :eek:No, it only gets weirder. A research group claimed that observation was not entirely the key, but recording the result is where the outcome changed. So it could be observed with a camera, and you get the expected result. But as soon as you started recording those results, the outcome changed to the wave pattern result.

[Pokesan]

FUCK OFF YOU RAMTHA LOVING BITCH

[maskedmelon]

The universe is powered by smart zones. Why should the Hawking Laboratory be on utilizing all that matter/energy if not needed or asked to? It's a green universe.

[Daywolf]

FUCK OFF YOU RAMTHA LOVING BITCH
You never heard of this shit before? Why am I not surprised hehe. This is friggen quantum science, dude, mainstream. It's shaking the science community. Spit out that blue pill, dude. Nothing to do with Ramtha.

/emote looks to post below and realizes someone must be heavily medicated.. or forgot to.

[Pokesan]

I WILL DESTROY YOU

http://i.imgur.com/1Auof.gif

[KagatobLuvsAnimu]

No, it only gets weirder. A research group claimed that observation was not entirely the key, but recording the result is where the outcome changed. So it could be observed with a camera, and you get the expected result. But as soon as you started recording those results, the outcome changed to the wave pattern result.

The method of observation interfered with the electrons. Last I checked you need to blast electrons with energy (Photons I think) to observe them in any way.

[Fame]

No, it only gets weirder. A research group claimed that observation was not entirely the key, but recording the result is where the outcome changed. So it could be observed with a camera, and you get the expected result. But as soon as you started recording those results, the outcome changed to the wave pattern result.

Wow, that is fascinating. Really, how in the hell is our act of recording results having a impact on the observable light patterns? That is out of this world crazy shit.

I wonder how much of a impact we as a species have on reality as we know it.

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

[Pokesan]

Wow, that is fascinating. Really, how in the hell is our act of recording results having a impact on the observable light patterns? That is out of this world crazy shit.

I wonder how much of a impact we as a species have on reality as we know it.

http://noosphere.princeton.edu/

Noetic science is a form of bullshit famously promoted by Dan Brown in The Lost Symbol. It should be noted that noetic "science" and noetic philosophy are distinct. Noetic (from the Greek noetikos, "mental") philosophy is philosophy dealing with the mind, intellect, or consciousness. However, this more often goes under the more obvious name of "theory" or "philosophy of mind" these days. Noetic "science" is closer to the pseudoscience of parapsychology and other such New Age fluff as "expanding your consciousness."

[Fame]

Word, didn't know Princeton was putting out puff pieces. Thanks for the input

[Daywolf]

The method of observation interfered with the electrons. Last I checked you need to blast electrons with energy (Photons I think) to observe them in any way.
My best guess is, it somehow has to do with or resemble some effects of quantum entanglement. Like as if somehow light and data or observation can share a physical property, separately in different locations. Like... how the native Americans didn't like cameras, that it would steal their soul, or a part of them. Maybe somehow the observation or recording of the data makes a link with the photons, effecting the original by the copy.

This could also be outside the dimensions of time and space, an effect before the event even takes place. Just throwing that in for a little extra foofaraw :D

[Big_Japan]

The method of observation interfered with the electrons. Last I checked you need to blast electrons with energy (Photons I think) to observe them in any way.

no, im 100% sure quantum theory says the universe cares whether electrons are observed specifically by a dude or other sentient being. human mentation fundamentally alters the fabric of reality, sounds weird but science is backing me on this one bro. you may not have heard of it from the corporate media just yet however.

[Daywolf]

effecting the original by the copy.
I mean really, might be onto something there. According to astrophysics theory, the event horizon of a black hole is suppose to hold all the digital data of everything within the black hole (how does it know it's there?).

If matter is simply data, and you in part duplicate that data, could there not be some form of entanglement between the original and the copy? If it's data, then there should be some form of positioning data within the code, and if you copy that data then you have two entities with essentially the same positional data in that now they interact in some quantum level; in some extra-dimensional coordinate system we have yet to discover ...Just like we can't explain how gravity works which may be a part of some digital and/or dimensional coordinate system.

Same as how quantum entanglement operates, which is proven now btw (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3283317/Einstein-wrong-Ground-breaking-test-reveals-spooky-quantum-entanglement-phenomenon-real.html).

[iruinedyourday]

All this quantum observation stuff is stuff God put into the mix so we can have some privacy. In the og:testament it says, "as far as Jesus is concerned, whatever he doesn't see, didn't happen."

So yea folks this is all in the bible, duh

[Big_Japan]

All this quantum observation stuff is stuff God put into the mix so we can have some privacy. In the og:testament it says, "as far as Jesus is concerned, whatever he doesn't see, didn't happen."

So yea folks this is all in the bible, duh

well it is the word of god, so of course uncorrupted interpretations of the text are consistent w/ quantum theory (really quantum fact)

[Daywolf]

All this quantum observation stuff is stuff God put into the mix so we can have some privacy. In the og:testament it says, "as far as Jesus is concerned, whatever he doesn't see, didn't happen."

So yea folks this is all in the bible, duh
This is why we can't have nice things :rolleyes:

/emote stares at the piles of popped off doll heads laying in teh sandbox.

[Daywolf]

Hey daywolf I heard judeo-christian religions aren't jewish/say What [judeo-christian] religions?
That word is not jewish or christian, it's an interfaith word that popped up during WWII after a feat of heroism between a jew, catholic and christian who were chaplains on a US war ship that was torpedoed and sunk by the germans. Up until then there was no such word, and it was used as an interfaith meaning of cooperation during WWII and not as some religious order or such.

Judeo and chiristian are two different and conflicting religions/beliefs. Would you say that islam is judeo? Or that there are judeo-islam religions? That they are or are not jewish?

[Wipe it Clean]

It's cold as fuck here, Dec climate change, prob some axial tilt + ocean acidification + shift in current (el Nino too fucking much) + cow farts

[Daywolf]

It's cold as fuck here, Dec climate change, prob some axial tilt + ocean acidification + shift in current (el Nino too fucking much) + cow fartsYeah but can't you see by this thread that "the debate is over (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5y0AvUeTU)" ?

See? the debate is over! You just don't believe in science, not a true believer. Heretic!!

[maerilith]

Yeah but can't you see by this thread that "the debate is over (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot5y0AvUeTU)" ?

See? the debate is over! You just don't believe in science, not a true believer. Heretic!!

I'm not disagreeing with u, I was just pointing out some of the major factors :)

Dicapri is sexy, and thats what I would look like if I was high T, but I don't want to invade his brospace.

[Daywolf]

youre wrong



yes, the big 3 are all branches of the same tree. judaism and christianity arent conflicting, with the exception of 1 point: the validity of christs claim to the throne. christianity is derived from judaismI pointed this out before, judaism is a bloodline, not a religion etc.

[Daywolf]

It's both, unless you're accusing millions of people going to synagogue of being cousin fuckers
The logic escapes you. This jewish religion you claim exists, existed as the jewish religion before the jews were even around? Are jews time travelers, bro? :D

Would you say Moses was a jew?

[Daywolf]

Idk where you made that leap lol


Can you convert to an ethnic group? Because you can convert to judaism.
As a proselyte, yes. Sort of like an adoption. It's a tirbal adoption, like a family adoption we have in western culture.

Moses was a.... ? You could even google it. From the tribe of....? and it's not judaism, dude. Moses wasn't a jew.

[Daywolf]

Judaism was the religion of the tribe of judea that over time was adopted by non ethnic jews. For someone who derives everything they say from google searches in an attempt to seem educated, you sure are avoiding this one google search.Again, Judea is a tribe (Judah). Judaism is tribal. Jew is just short for Judah. It's just a family bloodline. Their religion predates the tribe of Judah. It would be more correct to refer to it as Abrahamic. Or the Abrahamic religions, which there are a number of, and originated in western asia. Abraham wasn't a jew, btw ;) (edit: all of this is very relevant historically and explains much of the current strife among various camps in the conflict over the middle-east)

In fact, most of the religion that the jews follow, it's based more on their own traditions, with little in common to the Abrahamic.

Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles. Know yourself but not your enemy, find level of loss and victory. Know thy enemy but not yourself, wallow in defeat every time.

[Daywolf]

Youre wrong
Be my guest to research it all, man. Do you know what the core meaning of the Sun Tzu quote I keep dropping really means?
Knowledge is power!
It can be a long road, though.

[maskedmelon]

Well since other thread proofed, I'll post my thoughts here:

If authentic:
GG = FG^3

[Orruar]

Going back to the topic at hand, I'm with Bernie Sanders. Climate change is going to render the earth uninhabitable within just a couple generations.

[Blitzers]

Going back to the topic at hand, I'm with Bernie Sanders. Climate change is going to render the earth uninhabitable within just a couple generations.

Smoking weed has fried your brain.

[Blitzers]

FUCK OFF YOU RAMTHA LOVING BITCH

Is that a picture of you in your avatar. Lol that explains a lot

[iruinedyourday]

Wo of love to see a pic of blitz in his avatar but there is no electricity in his county

[Pokesan]

I don't mean to be mean, well this time anyway, but it's sad how dumb Blitzers is. Two swings, two misses.

Gonna be (even more) depressing when he comes to play for the Mariners this season.

[Daywolf]

Is that a picture of you in your avatar. Lol that explains a lot
Are you making fun of him because he's tooo poor to buy the real thing and is rather holding up packages of synthetic marijuana?? :D

[maskedmelon]

I don't mean to be mean, well this time anyway, but it's sad how dumb Blitzers is. Two swings, two misses.

Gonna be (even more) depressing when he comes to play for the Mariners this season.

Hello~ neighbor!