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05-17-2016, 07:19 PM
Cancel Magic has randomness to it, and I couldn't find any evidence that it should.
Testing by dispelling my charmed pet (who had no other buffs) and dispelling Breeze on myself, I observed dispelling either required between 1 and 4 casts of Cancel Magic. Below are logs for dispelling Breeze, which demonstrate a case where 4 Cancel Magic casts were required, immediately followed by a case where only 1 Cancel Magic cast was required.
Someone suggested that spell counters may be the cause; however, that doesn't explain the randomness. My understanding is that the dispell counters only apply to disease and poison debuffs. For example, Plague (http://wiki.project1999.com/Plague) has 9 disease counters, so you'd need to decrease the disease counters by at least 9 e.g. exactly 2 casts of Counteract Disease (http://wiki.project1999.com/Counteract_Disease) (A single cast removes only 8, so you need a 2nd cast to remove at least 9 counters). There is no randomness in that scenario. (I don't have disease or poison spells to verify they have no randomness, but this is how it was explained to me.)
Unlike poison/disease, magical buffs and debuffs like Charm (http://wiki.project1999.com/Charm) and Breeze (http://wiki.project1999.com/Breeze) don't have any "counters", so shouldn't 1 cast of Cancel Magic remove exactly 1 buff/debuff?
[Tue May 17 15:23:47 2016] You begin casting Breeze.
[Tue May 17 15:23:49 2016] A light breeze slips through your mind.
[Tue May 17 15:23:52 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:23:56 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:01 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:05 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:10 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:14 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:21 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:24 2016] The light breeze fades.
[Tue May 17 15:24:24 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:37 2016] You begin casting Breeze.
[Tue May 17 15:24:39 2016] A light breeze slips through your mind.
[Tue May 17 15:24:42 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:46 2016] The light breeze fades.
[Tue May 17 15:24:46 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
Testing by dispelling my charmed pet (who had no other buffs) and dispelling Breeze on myself, I observed dispelling either required between 1 and 4 casts of Cancel Magic. Below are logs for dispelling Breeze, which demonstrate a case where 4 Cancel Magic casts were required, immediately followed by a case where only 1 Cancel Magic cast was required.
Someone suggested that spell counters may be the cause; however, that doesn't explain the randomness. My understanding is that the dispell counters only apply to disease and poison debuffs. For example, Plague (http://wiki.project1999.com/Plague) has 9 disease counters, so you'd need to decrease the disease counters by at least 9 e.g. exactly 2 casts of Counteract Disease (http://wiki.project1999.com/Counteract_Disease) (A single cast removes only 8, so you need a 2nd cast to remove at least 9 counters). There is no randomness in that scenario. (I don't have disease or poison spells to verify they have no randomness, but this is how it was explained to me.)
Unlike poison/disease, magical buffs and debuffs like Charm (http://wiki.project1999.com/Charm) and Breeze (http://wiki.project1999.com/Breeze) don't have any "counters", so shouldn't 1 cast of Cancel Magic remove exactly 1 buff/debuff?
[Tue May 17 15:23:47 2016] You begin casting Breeze.
[Tue May 17 15:23:49 2016] A light breeze slips through your mind.
[Tue May 17 15:23:52 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:23:56 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:01 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:05 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:10 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:14 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:21 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:24 2016] The light breeze fades.
[Tue May 17 15:24:24 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.
[Tue May 17 15:24:37 2016] You begin casting Breeze.
[Tue May 17 15:24:39 2016] A light breeze slips through your mind.
[Tue May 17 15:24:42 2016] You begin casting Cancel Magic.
[Tue May 17 15:24:46 2016] The light breeze fades.
[Tue May 17 15:24:46 2016] You feel a bit dispelled.