The "NOT" so gay Terrorist

[Blitzers]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-orlando-gay-fbi-20160623-snap-story.html


On Tuesday, Univision aired a report in which “Miguel,” a man wearing a disguise to conceal his identity, alleged he had sex with Mateen after meeting him on the gay dating app, Grindr. He said Mateen had sex with other men too, including a threesome with a Puerto Rican who allegedly told Mateen, after having had unprotected sex with him, that he was HIV positive.

But investigators do not consider the man’s account credible, according to one senior law enforcement official with access to the investigation.

The LEFT Revisionist's shot down by FBI

[maskedmelon]

So wait, he is gay, or he isn't? One senior law enforcement officer says he's not? I am not sure I understand why this matters. Either way, he was an angry follower of a shitty ideology.

[Blitzers]

So wait, he is gay, or he isn't? One senior law enforcement officer says he's not? I am not sure I understand why this matters. Either way, he was an angry follower of a shitty ideology.

It matters cause the Left want him NOT to be an ISLAMIC HEADCUTTER. They rather this be a Gay Hate Crime. Control the narrative, Control the People.

[Blitzers]

MICHELLE OBAMA: "Barack knows that we are going to have to make sacrifices; we are going to have to change our conversation; we're going to have to change our traditions, our history; we're going to have to move into a different place as a nation."

[maskedmelon]

Ok, so he still is gay. Someone with FBI is just saying he's not so it can be sold as a hate crime? I don't see how him being not gay would help the case for Islam here.

Would be interesting to know why gay people would make up stories that someone who murdered a bunch of them was actually one of them. Must be to disparage the poor bastard's image!

I don't see how that is a winning strategy for the left. The 'best' is to just leave him as a self-loathing gay Muslim seeking redemption. It is far easier to blame society for creating a sense of alienation, hopelessness and justified anger that way.

[Blitzers]

Ok, so he still is gay. Someone with FBI is just saying he's not so it can be sold as a hate crime? I don't see how him being not gay would help the case for Islam here.

Would be interesting to know why gay people would make up stories that someone who murdered a bunch of them was actually one of them. Must be to disparage the poor bastard's image!

I don't see how that is a winning strategy for the left. The 'best' is to just leave him as a self-loathing gay Muslim seeking redemption. It is far easier to blame society for creating a sense of alienation, hopelessness and justified anger that way.

This is attempt to link Christians, who the Left deem responsible for Gay Hate to this "Act of Terrorism". If they can muddy the information pipeline enough people will sub-consciously ignore the ISLAMIC ties and just chalk it up to the ANTI-GAY "ideal" as a "whole" which is predominantly juxtaposed upon Christianity.

I posted a story about this when the Attack 1st happened.

[Blitzers]

The FBI not part of the Agenda, I truly think the FBI acting independently, and the truth is in opposition of the Progressive Narrative that the Administration would like to create.

[Ahldagor]

The guy pledged allegiance to ISIS and support of Hezbollah who is fighting ISIS. This looks more like a lone wolf crazy person that couldn't cope with their own homosexuality and took out his self hate on others.

[Blitzers]

The guy pledged allegiance to ISIS and support of Hezbollah who is fighting ISIS. This looks more like a lone wolf crazy person that couldn't cope with their own homosexuality and took out his self hate on others.

Never said he was a smart terrorist.

If you think the Iranian backed Hezbollah is actually doing anything besides lip service opposition, you be crackin yo nut.

[Jimjam]

Sounds like he had a violent breakdown after an HIV scare.

[Ahldagor]

Never said he was a smart terrorist.

If you think the Iranian backed Hezbollah is actually doing anything besides lip service opposition, you be crackin yo nut.

Guy was definately a nut job. A lot of contradictions in statements and actions that indicate an unstable personality. If he survived it then I'd fully support a public execution. Really like how ISIS began to distance themselves from him when his homosexual activities started to become public tho'. The Islam aspect is very media driven, likely for eyeballs for ad revenues. Sensational journalism is about all we get now from the mass media, 24 hour news cycle. Sad all around.

[Blitzers]

Guy was definately a nut job. A lot of contradictions in statements and actions that indicate an unstable personality. If he survived it then I'd fully support a public execution. Really like how ISIS began to distance themselves from him when his homosexual activities started to become public tho'. The Islam aspect is very media driven, likely for eyeballs for ad revenues. Sensational journalism is about all we get now from the mass media, 24 hour news cycle. Sad all around.

The Islamic aspect is media driven?

Dunno how reporting on what the man actually said is an aspect being "Driven" as opposed to being reported.

I think what's being "driven" is the LEFTS attempt to distance the terrorist from ISLAM and create confusion and doubt. This is Saul Alinsky tactics to the "TEE."

[Ahldagor]

The Islamic aspect is media driven?

Dunno how reporting on what the man actually said is an aspect being "Driven" as opposed to being reported.

I think what's being "driven" is the LEFTS attempt to distance the terrorist from ISLAM and create confusion and doubt. This is Saul Alinsky tactics to the "TEE."

That's just it. The totality of what he said contradicts itself. I think the fbi dropped their investigation of him twice because he had contradictory support, leanings to various Islamic extremist groups. Hezbollah and ISIS support, like what I mentioned earlier.

[Blitzers]

That's just it. The totality of what he said contradicts itself. I think the fbi dropped their investigation of him twice because he had contradictory support, leanings to various Islamic extremist groups. Hezbollah and ISIS support, like what I mentioned earlier.

FBI dropped it because of all the new regs and anti profiling rules set in place by the Obama Administration. Political Correctness killed the Gays.

[sOurDieSel]

GRIDS or Islam... same difference.

There will be no more Homocausts in the USA once Trump becomes president because both will be on the other side of the wall where they will live in peace and harmony.

[Tewaz]

Wouldn't surprise me at all. Homosexuality is HUGE in the Muslim world with men.

[Ahldagor]

FBI dropped it because of all the new regs and anti profiling rules set in place by the Obama Administration. Political Correctness killed the Gays.

I heard it was his ignorance of the factions he was claiming affiliation to during interviews. Granted that was the Monday or Tuesday afterwards.

[AzzarTheGod]

why wait till the club is closed to begin the attack tho?

don't terrorists want maximum casualties, and to ruin someones time in the most epic way possible? Last call was at 1:30 AM, liquor is shut off by 1:40 AM. The club lights come on at 1:55 AM to kick everyone out and its a ghost town by that time. Doors are locked by 2:15 AM

I thought he wanted to hurt the most people possible? Have you seen the size of the Pulse night club parking lot? Its like 10 spots.

Can we get surveillance from the parking lot? Most parking lots have surveillance. For now I am going with casualties grossly inflated by mainstream media using questionable Fed sources.

[Blitzers]

why wait till the club is closed to begin the attack tho?

don't terrorists want maximum casualties, and to ruin someones time in the most epic way possible? Last call was at 1:30 AM, liquor is shut off by 1:40 AM. The club lights come on at 1:55 AM to kick everyone out and its a ghost town by that time. Doors are locked by 2:15 AM

I thought he wanted to hurt the most people possible? Have you seen the size of the Pulse night club parking lot? Its like 10 spots.

Can we get surveillance from the parking lot? Most parking lots have surveillance. For now I am going with casualties grossly inflated by mainstream media using questionable Fed sources.

I'm not saying the dude is or isn't queer. I'm just pointing out how the LEFTWING media is trying to seperate ISLAM from the attack. It's an intentional attempt to keep Islam a "religion of peace" and deflect blame elsewhere. The Left would rather this be a "gay hate crime" rather then Islamic Terrorism. The FBI must operate independently to keep credibility. The rules on profiling set by the DOJ and the Obama Administration has the FBI handicapped by political correctness and LEFTWING politicking. Much of the FBI, I believe, are at odds with the Administration.

Why wait til they were closed? Who knows maybe he wanted them all good and drunk so there's less resistance.

[AzzarTheGod]

I'm not saying the dude is or isn't queer. I'm just pointing out how the LEFTWING media is trying to seperate ISLAM from the attack. It's an intentional attempt to keep Islam a "religion of peace" and deflect blame elsewhere. The Left would rather this be a "gay hate crime" rather then Islamic Terrorism. The FBI must operate independently to keep credibility. The rules on profiling set by the DOJ and the Obama Administration has the FBI handicapped by political correctness and LEFTWING politicking. Much of the FBI, I believe, are at odds with the Administration.

Why wait til they were closed? Who knows maybe he wanted them all good and drunk so there's less resistance.

Also less people. Primetime would be midnight to 1 AM when everyone who's anyone is going to be there partying. Pretty much every single witness said "I showed up at midnight". This goes for any club, any clubber knows this.

He wasn't stupid. This looks like more of a vendetta of some kind turned into a terror attack, and less like your run of the mill terror attack. It screams lone wolf vendetta. Anyone who has friends, got ass or a hookup/pickup, is out of the door before the lights come on. Lights on = buzzkill.

There's more to his motive that hasn't come out, and may not come out. I guarantee he knew at least 1 person he wanted to kill would be there after close. There is someone who disrespected him there personally. Islam helped build the bodycount up by attacking other innocents, but this looks primarily motivated by a beef with a certain group or certain person who he associated the entire gay culture with inside the club. A bartender or staff.

There is no other motive for waiting until last call is over and close when casualties would be at their lowest. For a suicide attack you want maximum casualties, it was a no-brainer. Hes a smart guy. This had a personal vendetta angle to it and appears to have the MO of lone wolf terror more than Islamic terror. ISIS would demand maximum casualties and club close doesn't cut it.

[DMN]

I don't think it was some sort of leftist conspiracy -- that said, the media certainly could have ignored the BS and not reported such nonsense. They certainly were not interest in reporting on Obama's multiple supposed gay lovers while he was married.

[Blitzers]

I don't think it was some sort of leftist conspiracy -- that said, the media certainly could have ignored the BS and not reported such nonsense. They certainly were not interest in reporting on Obama's multiple supposed gay lovers while he was married.

Or how they were murdered.

[Blitzers]

It's not a conspiracy, it's the Left doing what the left does.