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Rogean
02-04-2010, 03:58 PM
I'm aware of the trade bug that currently exists where people sometimes lose money when a trade is cancelled. Before I start looking into this can some people please post exact steps to replicate this problem. I'm looking for detailed replication steps only in this thread, or any information you feel is important for me to know and has not already been mentioned. Other posts will be deleted.

Thanks.

Rogean
02-04-2010, 04:10 PM
Again, An example of what I'm looking for:

1. Player A opens a trade by clicking on Player B with X Item / Y Coin on Cursor.
2. Player B does Soandso
3. Player A does soandso
4. Something happens. Money is lost.

Elation
02-04-2010, 04:20 PM
STEP by STEP WITH REAL NAMES
Players involved: Kimchi, Merllin, Oggagar, King i might have messed the g's up
Kimchi and Merlin are at Oggok Bank, Kimchi gets 17,000 to trade to Merlin's alt, King.
Kimchi has 17,000 in Inventory, Merlin ports to gfay, Merlin says brb,
Kimchi sees a character walk by, Kimchi has 17,000pp in cursor clicks on Oggagar, 17,000 becomes on trade screen, King comes by (trying to trade me the rubicite bp) "interested in making a trade pops up a few times"
Kimchi cannot exit trade screen panicing and randomly ESCing and clicking cancel, somehow the money was gone. No longer in clicker.
I'm not sure how much more detailed i can get, i might have missed a step but its better than anything anyones posted so far.

im willing to try and replicate this on a test server or something.

Btw my alts are Kimchi, Glowstix if u need me.

Falisaty
02-04-2010, 05:12 PM
not sure if this is going to make it or not but a way to keep from losing your items in the trade bug is to be aware that it exist..... if you are in the situation where you cannot close the trade box know that you are going to lose your stuff if you keep hitting esc and clicking cancel... iv been in the situation several times and have lost money and items (no biggie) the best way to resolve the issue is that the player who initiated the trade needs to just walk away from the person he is trading with this will automatically end the trad as you get to far for it to happen. every time after i realized what was going on i have done this and i have never lost the money or items i was trading. Just a way to avoid the loss of your property. hopefully this will be left up to read as it will save a bunch of headaches till rogan can figure out what is going on.

Brund the Decrepit
02-04-2010, 07:09 PM
Buyer - Galadorn
Seller (me) Thurgrum

Location: Freeport Bank

1.) I initiated a trade by dropping a piece of armor on the buyer
2.) I placed a total of 5 pieces in the trade window
3.) Buyer placed 60pp in the trade window as I was adding armor pieces
4.) Buyer cancelled trade window

POOF 60pp gone.

We restarted the trade and all went smoothly the second time (no one attempted to cancel the trade).

Hope this helps.

Segoris
02-07-2010, 02:25 PM
Buyer - Satsui
Seller - Jify
3rd person: Icoa

I put 50plat in trade window with jify to buy a platinum armband. Then Icoa put money in trade window to buy the armband. This made it so my trade window wouldn't close and recognized Icoa as the other party to trade with Jify instead of telling Icoa that Jify was busy.

I couldn't clear the trade window without zoning/relogging. When I did, the 50plat was gone.

There's another situation plat disappears

Elation
02-07-2010, 04:11 PM
similar to mine Satsui hope this gets resolved soon.

Simon Belmont
02-16-2010, 06:25 AM
players involved:

Belmont
Jete

Belmont is opening his spell book and looking at spells.

Jete offers a trade and it goes through for 150pp
I click cancel to get it to go away, but it doesnt and I have to camp out to clear trade window. (no distance I can travel will remove the trade window away from the opener of the window)

Jete loses 150pp.

Goobles
02-17-2010, 03:23 AM
Player A is looting corpse
Player B attempts to trade
Player A is busy
Player B is busy
Player B has to log out in order for trade to work properly again

Elation
02-17-2010, 08:16 PM
still waiting for this to get resolved jesus.........

Jewce
02-21-2010, 11:56 PM
Just lost another 25000pp to this bug..

Not much detail to give:

Walked up to guy to make the trade, he opened a trade. Seemed like some lag, his item never showed up.. I put the money in, then it said he wanted to trade again. I tried to hit cancel and it wouldn't cancel, then he ran out of range and the trade window vanished, and all my money with it :(

Haynar
02-22-2010, 12:03 AM
Just lost another 25000pp to this bug..
Please explain how you lost the 25,000 pp.

Thanks,

Haynar

Judgement
03-10-2010, 03:59 AM
I lost a whopping 50pp to this bug. Here's how!

I decide I'm going to sell a savant's cap at Kelethin bank.

Wessubba decides to buy it.

I load the item on my cursor and click on Wessubba several times, just as a violent lagstorm washes over the Greater Faydark zone.

I receive a busy message several times.

Wessubba is apparently attempting the same with his plat.

I get a trade message with Wessubba's 50 plat, which quickly disappears, due to Wessubba, I assume, cancelling the trade.

Wessubba relates to me that he did not receive the plat back upon cancelling the trade.

The lagstorm passes, and feeling mercy, I give Wessubba the savant's cap.

Wessubba /petitions and has not yet received a response after several days.

Unable to bear the senseless loss of the tragedy, I fling Judgement from Kelethin unceremoniously. A brief funeral is presided over by a pixie trickster.
The CR is uneventful.

Jesus appears with minimal fanfare in my office and slaps me on the back for my good deed, with a warm chuckle. In the process, an ingrown hair just below my chin is spontaneously healed.

Wessubba
03-26-2010, 01:43 AM
After two weeks of waiting for a reimbursement, and finally being at a level where 50pp is a much smaller chunk of change, I repaid the 50pp Judgement I owed him for the cap. I would like to point out that Judgement is on my list of wonderful people of p99 because of how gracious he was to a poor newb.

Bones
04-07-2010, 10:31 PM
This happened to me 4 months ago or around there.
I opened trade with this person with 1kpp and I don't remember what I was buying but we both clicked accept at the same time and his item disappeared and my cash did too.

Cant prove any of it and I barely remember it, so I am not asking for any reimbursement or anything.

Just adding what I've experienced.

Omnimorph
04-08-2010, 09:17 AM
Don't think there's much can be done about it (especially at the moment) i've lost money to it before, and as a result i only ever open trade with someone when i'm buying someting with 1cp :p they put the item in, I put the right money in and seems to be alright for me.

This is quite a nice touch on classic as back then if you missed clicking on someone with your money you'd end up dropping it (as with items, no confirm box iirc) so i have to be extra careful :p

Bones
04-12-2010, 04:48 PM
This happened to me 4 months ago or around there.
I opened trade with this person with 1kpp and I don't remember what I was buying but we both clicked accept at the same time and his item disappeared and my cash did too.

Cant prove any of it and I barely remember it, so I am not asking for any reimbursement or anything.

Just adding what I've experienced.

LoL this event suddenly surfaced in my memory recently and I sort of remember what happened now. Unfortunately I still cannot remember who this was.

I did open the trade but not with plat, with a Runed Cowl from lower guk.(I had been camping and selling them all week). We met up in EC tunnel at Shady. I click trade and he clicked trade, and lag commenses. For about 5 seconds the trade window just sat at a standstill both both of us already having accepted the trade.. we swapped a bit of dialogue back and forth regarding the confusion. After about 10 seconds or so I decided to back away from him (closing the trade). He did indeed get the Runed Cowl, but the plat disappeared. I sent a tell to a gm who was in game at the time, and he directed me to the forum. Since I am lazy and it wasn't a big issue at the time and 1kp had little to no value to me, I didn't make a post.

Not sure if that sort of describes the same issues other people have had.

I am still in no way asking for a reimbursement, thanks.

Malrubius
05-15-2010, 03:41 PM
Bumping because this just happened to me. Didn't seem particularly laggy at the time - just clicked my whopping 75pp onto the Plat portion of the trade window, and BAM - trade window instantly disappears and it reports that "Malrubius cancelled the trade". 75pp was gone.

I will use Omni's 1cp trick from now on, but it's still a bug that could potentially cause someone a HUGE amount of pain.

Lazortag
05-15-2010, 05:09 PM
I tried to trade with someone but misclicked and traded with someone else. Then I hit cancel soon after I put the 100 plat in the window. I then re-traded the 100 plat with the person I needed to but for some reason needed to cancel again (I'm not sure why, if you ask Gnada about the situation he might remember). After that when we tried re-trading I didn't have my 100 plat.

:(:(:(:(

joshbc
05-17-2010, 02:43 PM
Same thing happened to me with 1kpp that I was trading, I petitioned about it and was told "we are currently unaware of any bugs relating to this issue" ..

astarothel
05-17-2010, 03:06 PM
Have only had it happen once to some guy I was selling a deity to. We both tried to open trade at the same time I figure. (The 'interested in a trade' message popped up while I already had trade open with them.) I cancelled out of it because it was lagging when I tried to drop the doll into the window and it ate the poor guys pp.

Kainzo
06-03-2010, 12:53 PM
Is this still happening?

Lazortag
06-03-2010, 04:13 PM
If it is, there's an easy way to avoid this when making very large transactions for multiple items: do several trades at once and smurf the transaction (ie divide it into several micro transactions). That way the chance of a failure eating 10K and making you slit your wrists is ridiculously low.

Also, I think when making transactions of say, 5K or more, using a GM as a middle man would be an acceptable short term solution, provided the GM was willing. Both players could trade their money/items to the GM, and the GM could trade everything back to the opposite players, so that if a mistake happens, the GM can always fix it and verify that the transaction occurred.

I have a question - is there a way to actually recover lost plat (due to game logs verifying that a certain amount of platinum was deleted for no reason)? Thanks.

Daranin
03-07-2011, 10:07 PM
This bug just happened to me a few minutes ago. Woodelfw (players name) gave me some random gear for a torch (mage quest piece). He logged his mage for me to give him the torch and i met him in gfay. I opened up trade with the torch, added a charred guardian breasplate i was going to have him give my rogue, then i changed my mind about the breast plate so i canceled the trade, briefly the torch appears in my inventory but then dissapeared when the trade window was closed. Now i only have the breastplate but the torch is gone. I sent a petition and have been waiting for a response. Makes me look like a shady character when someone gives you an item for transfer then it mysteriously dissapears.

- Daranin 50 Druid

Uthgaard
03-07-2011, 10:27 PM
This was fixed. Zone and it should be in your inventory.

Daranin
03-07-2011, 10:54 PM
Thanks for the prompt reply. I zoned into crushbone. No torch in my inventory.

~Daranin

Haynar
03-07-2011, 11:14 PM
I made only one change in the code concerning trades. It had to do, with when you cancel a trade, to ensure that the other persons trade cancels correctly. But I will reverse those changes if we confirm an issue with trading again.

H