Everything related to Agnarr!

[nhdjoseywales]

Why are people excited over this? It's just going to be live EQ with time locked expansions. The only thing that makes P99 fun is that it's a fairly legitimate representation of classic EQ. You're going to have reskinned zones, vanity items in cash store, pay2win potions, paid mounts etc.

Am I wrong here?

still unclear on what exactly a play to win potion is. I cant seem to find those on the daybreak store.....

[Maner]

still unclear on what exactly a play to win potion is. I cant seem to find those on the daybreak store.....

You can buy exp pots, either for just yourself or ones that affect the entire group.

[JurisDictum]

Who the fuck goes to McDonalds on a budget? You realize how expensive McDonalds is compared to your ramen?

You can blow 30 dollars at McDonalds easily just to eat a full meal

Man, for $13.50 I can get a grand mac meal and 20 chicken nuggets. Who the hell eats more than that at once?

[Lhancelot]

Man, for $13.50 I can get a grand mac meal and 20 chicken nuggets. Who the hell eats more than that at once?

I am waiting for someone to post that works at McDonalds who gets to eat all the gourmet fast food McDonalds has to offer.

[burkemi5]

Glad to see this thread go back to the McD's discussion. I get that you want to fast, whatever, I personally don't see why, butt fuck man, 30 bucks at McD's. Go somewhere decent at least. Like Subway.

[Murri]

Fuck yea subway

[Sadiki]

Oh my god. People think Subway is an upgrade from anything.

[Murri]

http://i.imgur.com/pS9jdtK.jpg

[Mead]

Hope they screened this new guy for pedophelia

[nostalgiaquest]

butt fuck man

teehee

[AzzarTheGod]

Confirmed a fatass

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

[Hibren]

Because they're fat.

[Andos]

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

You fatties sure do yell a lot.

[radda]

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

Confirmed rustled

[Rygar]

http://i.imgur.com/pS9jdtK.jpg

OMFG Haven't even read most of this thread, but that image is AWESOME! Laughing so hard, pure genius.

[maskedmelonpai]

Glad to see this thread go back to the McD's discussion. I get that you want to fast, whatever, I personally don't see why, butt fuck man, 30 bucks at McD's. Go somewhere decent at least. Like Subway.

there we go, after you long day at work, jus go eat a COLD sandwich in a COLD restaurant (why subway always so cold? Can't they keep they ingredients in the cooler instead of making all they customers walk in to order? :c) instead a WARM meal from a FAMILY restaurant. super insensitive post, burks.

[burkemi5]

Lol, I was honestly joking about Subway. It's not that great. How about an upscale restaurant like Potbellys, Five Guys, In and Out, uh, Noodles and Co, Chipotle.. any of these are better choices than McDonalds.

[Rygar]

Give me Arby's or BK french fries or give me death! Taco Bell Dorrito Loco getting no love either. Don't go there to eat healthy, go there to indulge and enjoy! I will give love to McGriddles, they have a special place in my heart (mainly my arteries).

[Spyder73]

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

Today a Florida man dressed as an Elf invaded a local McDonalds near Miami Lakes, FL. The perpetrator had "Azzar" spray painted on his chest and was wielding a medieval style mace. He walked up to a customer eating from the $1 menu and whispered into the womans ear "im going to kill you". Soon after this he began beating the woman with the mace. There was a dog involved that was not injured in the incident police say. More on this story at 11.

[Mead]

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

You probably shouldn't tell the internet you eat 30 dollars worth of McDonald's if you don't want to get called a fat fuck.

[JurisDictum]

30 dollars worth of KFC wouldn't have surprised me...although I couldn't finish half of one of their bucket meals.

[dafier]

Considering $30 at McDs may get a fat guy half full, I'd figure 60+ at KFC would do the same. Unless Azz eats chicken bones. Or swallows them whole. Then, maybe it would fill that fat void up faster??? Unsure.

[Nirgon]

I can eat more mcnuggets than Azzar if I'm fucked up

[JurisDictum]

What do you guys think the most overpowered PoP class is?

Probably Beastlord?

[dafier]

What do you guys think the most overpowered PoP class is?

Probably Beastlord?

Depends. Before a certain patch I would say Mage. Especially Mage in BoT. Charm an Elemental and pretty much own everything in sight. That was beyond OP. Because your charmed Ele is buffed by not only your spells but your AA abilities too.

You could easily waste Mini-bosses without breaking a sweat.

[meadtj]

wow this thread got dark fast

[meadtj]

30 dollars worth of KFC wouldn't have surprised me...although I couldn't finish half of one of their bucket meals.

You want to see some fat people... there is a kfc near me that is all you can eat. Its only about $15 too.

[Bubbles]

WHATI DONT THINK YOU REALIZE YOU ARE DEALING WITH A FULLY MEDICATED SOCIOPATH. IF YOUI HAVE CALLED ME FAT IN THIS THREAD YOU HAVE REASON TO BE CONCERNED WITH YOUR OWN BODY. I WOULD WORRY ABOUT YOURSELF AND WHAT SHAPE IT IS. YOU SHOULD NOT BE WORRIED ABOUT ME START BY ASKINGYOURSELF WHY YOU WOULD CALL SOMEONE FATO NT HE INTERNET???????????

For a fat chick, you sure have small tits.

[shuklak]

Whataburger is better if you just want some fast burgers.

[radda]

Azzar to cool for this t thread now. Rather post dumb shit else where like we'll forget

[Fenna]

What is the max amount of AA's that this server will allow?

[meadtj]

If there is anything we should all be able to agree on is it's wonderful that we have actual options now. A very short time ago our only options were p99 and live with 20-something expansions.

Pick your poison and enjoy it.

^smartest thing said in this entire thread

[Daldaen]

Launch is happening this month.

I wonder if any P99 guilds will migrate over???

[Zemus]

Launch is happening this month.

I wonder if any P99 guilds will migrate over???

Fires of Heaven / Venerate plan to move to Agnarr and combine into a single entity <Flames of Reverence>

Foh/Ven will continue on P99 but I don't know in what capacity or if there is a plan.

[Zemus]

Actually I think FoH has stated their flat out done with P99.

[nhdjoseywales]

What is the max amount of AA's that this server will allow?

Anything in era you can purchase. You can bank your lvl x 1.5 aa. Max AA per class will vary.

[Vandil]

12 weeks of original + (12 weeks * 6 expansions (Kunark, Velious, Luclin, PoP, Yeksha, LDoN)) = 84 weeks = A little over 1.6 years before people begin to cry about the server being locked at LDoN.

Interestingly, TunnelQuest ends after 48 weeks when the Bazaar opens.

[Cecily]

Good MMOs seem to be fun for about 2 years, then it's just playing out of habit till you find something new. Probably isn't true for people like us who have been playing EQ in recent years, but I imagine someone freshly coming back to the game will have a great time.

[Bruno]

12 weeks of original + (12 weeks * 6 expansions (Kunark, Velious, Luclin, PoP, Yeksha, LDoN)) = 84 weeks = A little over 1.6 years before people begin to cry about the server being locked at LDoN.

Interestingly, TunnelQuest ends after 48 weeks when the Bazaar opens.

Nobody was crying on the eqmac server that it was PoP locked. Only when it went down. Apparently someone at Daybreak got their head out of their ass and realized it was going to make them a lot of money releasing a PoP locked server. Because let's face it, it's no secret that's the only thing they really care about. The server will have a healthy population and do well. Some p99 guilds sick of the raid scene will migrate over and most likely the majority of Phinny will start over on Agnarr.

[burkemi5]

Nobody was crying on the eqmac server that it was PoP locked. Only when it went down. Apparently someone at Daybreak got their head out of their ass and realized it was going to make them a lot of money releasing a PoP locked server. Because let's face it, it's no secret that's the only thing they really care about. The server will have a healthy population and do well. Some p99 guilds sick of the raid scene will migrate over and most likely the majority of Phinny will start over on Agnarr.

Except the problem with Ag vs old EQ Mac is that Ag is going to have all the "QoL" improvements that EQ has now, that all the classic lovers hate. Loot windows, maps in every zone, updated pets/ monk dps tables, etc etc. Old EQ Mac didn't need the buffs to bosses to make them balanced. I bet people will zerg through Ag as quickly as they did Phinny and get bored of it. Unless Daybreak can put out a legit, as close to classic as possible server, I don't think it will have the staying power or community EQ Mac did.

[nhdjoseywales]

Nobody was crying on the eqmac server that it was PoP locked. Only when it went down. Apparently someone at Daybreak got their head out of their ass and realized it was going to make them a lot of money releasing a PoP locked server. Because let's face it, it's no secret that's the only thing they really care about. The server will have a healthy population and do well. Some p99 guilds sick of the raid scene will migrate over and most likely the majority of Phinny will start over on Agnarr.

No, they wont.

[Bruno]

No, they wont.

We'll see soon enough. Then we can revisit our posts and see who was right.

[Daldaen]

We'll see soon enough. Then we can revisit our posts and see who was right.

So PoP had the most in depth raid lore, quests, tradeskills, progression arc and content overall. But because they have a lot of QoL updates and DPS improvements/Heroics the content unfortunately falls over to most everyone.

Due to this many Phinigel raiders will be staying on Phinigel to experience more difficult / in depth raid scripts from GoD-TBS.

I think SoF will be where a large chunk of people fall off. Maybe PoR cause most people hated PoR but... Phinigel is in a unique position where it has nearly 20 current-content raid guilds and will continue on this arc with a few falling off because they can't beat the content, and likely will arrive in SoF with 10+ guilds having cleared Solteris, which was unheard of back in the day.

Agnarr was great from a marketing perspective because it won't hurt Phinigel's population too bad and will only bring in new players not interested in the Phinigel model, which keeps alive their largest server and has the potential to create a second largest server with Agnarr.

Really they need to resurrect Al'Kabor though.

[Man0warr]

We'll see soon enough. Then we can revisit our posts and see who was right.

Most of the Phinny players just went through Classic - > PoP in the last year. Maybe if Agnarr launched a couple years from now. Some Phinny players will definitely play it.

It will get a lot of old EQMac, P99, and Ragefire/LJ players though

[Bruno]

Except the problem with Ag vs old EQ Mac is that Ag is going to have all the "QoL" improvements that EQ has now, that all the classic lovers hate. Loot windows, maps in every zone, updated pets/ monk dps tables, etc etc. Old EQ Mac didn't need the buffs to bosses to make them balanced. I bet people will zerg through Ag as quickly as they did Phinny and get bored of it. Unless Daybreak can put out a legit, as close to classic as possible server, I don't think it will have the staying power or community EQ Mac did.

I'm not arguing that it's for the purists, or the mac cult like followers. Everquest is never going to be replicated exactly as it was originally experienced. That's an unrealistic pipe dream. You're living in p99 if you want that. But, this is probably as close as people are going to get to a solid PoP locked server and allow DBG to make their $$$. It's the best option people have at this point if they want a PoP locked server.

[Bruno]

Most of the Phinny players just went through Classic - > PoP in the last year. Maybe if Agnarr launched a couple years from now. Some Phinny players will definitely play it.

It will get a lot of old EQMac, P99, and Ragefire/LJ players though

Where do you think Phinny got most of their initial playerbase from? Certainly not p99. BDA was late to the party. They came from RF/LJ. I don't think restarting is going to be a huge issue. And some people thoroughly enjoy it.

[Bruno]

Real real and total shame they don't just set up a physical server to run eqmac, exactly how it was left. Then just charge me $15 a month to cover the stuff around, no kronos.

EQ heaven right there. By far the best server to have ever been made. None of the modern crap, still some 'broken things', it was perfect.

Idol remaking 29 alts to mainchange was not however...jebus.

What does this mean?

[AzzarTheGod]

Azzar to cool for this t thread now. Rather post dumb shit else where like we'll forget


*sets up telescope tripod*

*tightens lens and tilts toward radda*

[Bruno]

120 mcmuffins, 40 bigmacs, 40 large fries, 20 apple pies, and 20 milkshakes to go until Agnarr release.

[Retticus]

Launch is happening this month.

I wonder if any P99 guilds will migrate over???

When?

[trite]

Wonder how much I'd have to spend on exp potions before I Hit max AA

[Andos]

Wonder how much I'd have to spend on exp potions before I Hit max AA

None, just use 1/4 of the time you'd spend waiting to FTE race for mobs experiencing and you'll get there in no time.

[Hakubi]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

[sezaru]

/burp

[Lhancelot]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

Well, this pretty much makes me not want to try it. Thanks. :(

[Swish]

Well, this pretty much makes me not want to try it. Thanks. :(

Did BDA not mention any of that in their loot pinata lists? How strange :rolleyes:

[burkemi5]

Oh boy!

- Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
- No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
- Cheaters/hackers
- MAJOR RMT Krono economy
- EXP pots/fast grind
- Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
- OP melee and classic balance issues
- non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
- Missing limited time items that will never drop
- Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
- Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
- Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
- Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

Well said, quoted for visibility.

[Pokesan]

i wonder how daybreak feels about forum malcontents trash talking their product

[Darkatar]

i wonder how daybreak feels about forum malcontents trash talking their product

Sounds like rational opinions, not belligerent belittling.

[Psionide]

Instanced EQ, that alone is enough not to try it. If I want an instanced MMO I could go try literally every other garbage MMO that's out there. NM the Krono RMT.

[Pokesan]

Sounds like rational opinions, not belligerent belittling.

are you upset with my research?

[Maker_Mayhem]

Greetings friends,

With the recent announcement of the Agnarr TLP I am here to invite those who've already decided to make the transition to the server, to join us in our guild.

We will be a filthy, dirty, slimy, casual raiding guild and some of us, even have jobs lol ;).

We are looking at raiding atleast 2-3 scheduled raids per week, EST time likely at 7pm. There will also be unscheduled raids during the week after we begin to see where everyone is at and what their after, etc. i.e. we may find a slew of players on one Sunday and decide to head up to PoF or Sky, etc. -- will be based on the momentum of the players.

I am looking for good people willing to work together and be genuinely kind to the guild and the community. No vulgarity or excessive language towards anyone will be tolerated. This will be a family friendly guild.

In terms of raid loot -- if any of you have played the new TLPs then you are aware that the only thing more common than Krono, is the sheer amount of loot to be gotten. Because of this availability due to instanced raiding, we will be using a loot council /random 1-100 system. The council comes into play in this manner. When an item drops that is desired across multiple classes, the council will determine who is able to roll. I.e. Cloak of Flames may be initially rolled on by melee dps and/or warriors, until our raiders are well enough equipped. Then it will open up to alt/2nd main toons who are participating in the raid.

We will likely be split raiding eventually as well as farming classic thru Velious with lvl 52 dragon teams. That is why /random will work and is a fair system that will leave it to the algorithms that be.

Now you might say "But what about the guy who has lost 30 times to people just out of their app period?? Or the guy who shows up once a month to raid? That's not fair to your raiders."

To address this, there is a system being developed that will grant incentive to player seniority and consistency in raids, while still allowing the most disgusting, filthiest casual of us all to still have a chance to think he is Hokushin's descendent. The system will be based off something like: If you have consecutively attended 3 scheduled raids and lose to a roll to someone with < 3, you will be permitted another roll against him. In the same manner, if you have been in the guild x amount of time (not set yet, may be 3 months, may be 6 weeks idk?) and lose to someone just out of their app period, you will be permitted another roll against him.

There are many incentives which could be tweaked and worked with --- these are running ideas currently.

If we find the system utterly fails then we will adjust it as necessary. But honestly, I don't think it will fail.

Furthermore, if the items such as Cloak of Flames ends up in the guild bank, there will be guild events where it is a free /random open to all the members. We aren't looking to horde pixels or screw people over so we can get our fulfilment from a game. We are looking to legitimately have fun and help as many people do the same as we can.

I am currently looking for additional leadership. Please message me here if you are interested in the guild or leadership. Be sure to specify "Guild Leadership" or "Interested Applicant" in the subject to make for easier sorting.

A website is soon to come. If you have website development experience, let me know as well :) (I am apt to do it, however, it's not my favorite hobby lol)

Ah and before the rants and flames begin, know that I already pulled the trigger - say what you will if you must.

Much luck to you all in your endeavors - and much thanks for reading.

Maker

[indiscriminate_hater]

Too long, filed under: drugs

[Maker_Mayhem]

atleast you were indiscriminate about it ;)

[Tupakk]

Why did you put this in RNF.

This is totally an Off Topic thread. ������

[skarlorn]

What, if you have a problem with CSR on p99 then just say it here.

[Maker_Mayhem]

Ah it's in RnF because other Agnarr threads are as well. I also put a streamlined post in the OT section. But I figured it would give those who need to rant and flame, something to rant and flame about if they are die hard p99ers.

And Skarlorn - are you asking if I have a problem with CSR on p99? Any of my interactions with CSR has always been pleasant, actually. Seem like good folk to me.

[radda]

Gtfo

[Maker_Mayhem]

lol

[Expediency]

Those loot rules seem very complicated. I didnt make it past that.

ps go here from now on http://www.agnarr.com/forum

[Maker_Mayhem]

Ah they are still in the works as far as all the details go -- but it's really not that complicated. If you make 3 raids in a row and lose a roll to someone less than 3 raids in a row then you will get a chance to roll again.

[Bruno]

we will be using a loot council /random 1-100 system.

Newp.

Thread properly started in rnf.

[Maker_Mayhem]

lol with the amount of loot I'm pretty confident it'll suffice -- especially when you aren't forcing people to log on to raid, etc.

[aaezil]

lol why would anyone leave awesome velious server for subhuman daybreak boxing server

[Expediency]

Ah they are still in the works as far as all the details go -- but it's really not that complicated. If you make 3 raids in a row and lose a roll to someone less than 3 raids in a row then you will get a chance to roll again.

That is complicated and you will have clerical errors. If you are going to have to track attendance just use dkp.

ps go here from now on http://www.agnarr.com/forum

[Maker_Mayhem]

lol @ Freezi

[Psionide]

Yeah fuck instances I'd rather stare at a screenshare for 16 hours for each individual dragon times like 15+ dragons per week that I still want to kill for some reason so I can get better gear on a server where no new content will ever be released.

If you think like this unironically pls seek the help of a mental health professional

Have literally never done that but nice deflection. Yeah man, EQ's system is so messed up, It's almost like it hasn't attracted thousands of people for almost 2 decades, I'm so mentally unstable. It's okay if you want to admit you want/need an easier time getting pixels but don't see here and make it seem like people are crazy for wanting one of the things that made/makes classic EQ so unique and appealing. Nice personal insults tho, that's always the sign of a strong argument :eek:

[Lhancelot]

Why did you put this in RNF.

This is totally an Off Topic thread. ������

He said he was looking for respectable, good hearted, intelligent people with jobs to join him on Agnarr. Clearly RnF is where you find such people.

[Bruno]

Have literally never done that but nice deflection. Yeah man, EQ's system is so messed up, It's almost like it hasn't attracted thousands of people for almost 2 decades, I'm so mentally unstable. It's okay if you want to admit you want/need an easier time getting pixels but don't see here and make it seem like people are crazy for wanting one of the things that made/makes classic EQ so unique and appealing. Nice personal insults tho, that's always the sign of a strong argument :eek:

Let's be honest with ourselves for a moment, it's more like the thousand people at prime time who haven't been able to let go of virtual reality still going hard since 1999. That's not a really good argument to make. Both of you should probably stick to the in my opinion / it is my preference statements rather than this is the right way.

[Maker_Mayhem]

lol you can always find gold with enough sifting I suppose ;)

[Bruno]

lol with the amount of loot I'm pretty confident it'll suffice -- especially when you aren't forcing people to log on to raid, etc.

I honestly hope it works out for you. I personally think loot council is a joke that always gets exploited and randoming will take a toll on people over time. Not to mention the already stated logistical nightmare for the loot piñata tlp servers are. It sounds like a great idea until it's in play with 60 other loot hungry nerds.

[burkemi5]

Screen sharing/ tracking/ racing is NOT the answer for a server with a finite ending, but neither is instancing.

[burkemi5]

I honestly hope it works out for you. I personally think loot council is a joke that always gets exploited and randoming will take a toll on people over time. Not to mention the already stated logistical nightmare for the loot piñata tlp servers are. It sounds like a great idea until it's in play with 60 other loot hungry nerds.

If your guild takes off, assuming it won't, enjoy doing /random with 60 people for every piece of loot. In ToV alone you're looking at 30-45 minutes in a 3-4 hour clear just doing random and having someone look through them. Laugh at it all you want but wait until you're there trying to get through ToV, clearing bosses, 2-4 loots per boss randomed, oh wait this person isn't eligible to loot, etc. Clearly you aren't fit to lead a guild from a logistical standpoint, so do not join this guild, random Ag players.

[Bardalicious]

Random is a terrible idea, sorry friend.

You are promoting poor raiding behavior. People can pointedly skip raids they want nothing from when they'll be on pretty much equal footing to win items regardless.

[gummab]

No vulgarity or excessive language towards anyone will be tolerated.

That's me well and truly fucked..

If you are going down this road might aswell call your guild All saints...

[Bruno]

That's me well and truly fucked..

If you are going down this road might aswell call your guild All saints...

That was the name of the catholic grade school I went to and our monsignor was ousted for child molestation. Also two homosexuals from each sex that I know of just in my small class. A fitting name.

[Swish]

Make people duel for loot, winner gets pixels.

You're welcome.

[Mockba1980]

I am happy about Agnarr release because almost all the douche players will go there and P99 will be cleansed for few weeks/months.

[sezaru]

garbage time post

[Maker_Mayhem]

Lol we may be adopting Swish's idea now ;) jk. And aye you're right about ToV. That's why in the post I believe I mentioned it was only for a certain duration of time. Definitely won't be in play by PoP but is likely for Classic/Kunark and looks like that's where it would end.

[maskedmelonpai]

... casual raiding guild ...
... raiding [b]atleast 2-3 ...per week[b]...

mhmm

[Murri]

Yea lets get this back on the important topic of bard not being in the game at release. Everyone knows bards are the most well respected and skilled players of everquest. Perhaps they are worried all of the best players will only be playing one class?

[Odann]

Oh boy!

1) Mage box armies pushing everyone out of camps
2) No GM's to intervene so people intentionally train non stop.
3) Cheaters/hackers
4) MAJOR RMT Krono economy
5) EXP pots/fast grind
6) Rapid fire unlocks and raid bosses dead within a couple days
7) OP melee and classic balance issues
8) non classic content/ hundreds of "QOL" from Soul Binders, no corpse runs, to client side perks
9) Missing limited time items that will never drop
10) Instances exponentially increase the inflow of rare items causing them to become worthless
11) Droppable raid loot so nothing has any value except raid loot after the first few weeks
12) Instanced RAIDS... nothing contested so EVERYONE gets what they want and burn out extremely quickly
13) Attracts the pump and dump race kids who will leave it an empty husk void of real community, feels like a giant waste of time knowing you won't be able to jump back in in 5 years to healthy like minded people

What a shame. PoP was my favorite expansion but their model guts the best part; contesting content and the understanding that not everyone got BIS and the guy that has it in the tunnel deserve to envied, AA grinding and the expansion of class mechanics, farming plat, and having a stable economy. Seems like Daybreak is intent to drop the ball on every positive thing that WAS Planes and this will never be an Al'akbor 2.0

I numbered them to make this easier for us all.

1) Highly unlikely with a "true-box" system, but sure, maybe there will be a few. Just remember that this costs $90/mo to actually accomplish.
2) I know they said this, but I fully expect to get a GM presence of some kind similar to the other TLP's.
3) Lol yeah, no different than here.
4) See above answer.
5) I play Red so it won't be worse than that XP boost and, frankly, XP is not something I was ever concerned about with "Classic".
6) Better than years of the same expansion (Ohai Kunark).
7) You're confused. Melee are utter garbage to start. Casters reign supreme.
8) Got me here. Tons of QoL stuff in-game.
9) I'm not certain that's true. Manastone and Guise will still drop upon release.
10) I think it's more likely things that are normally quite expensive will be much less so.
11 & 12) I combined these because I legitimately think you have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses that received buffed values are not instanced. Open world dragons are not instanced. I would say only about half the raid content is instanced. Not to mention EVERY single instanced version of a raid ALSO has a contested "Classic" version as well.
13) Oh you were just trolling this whole time. Because this shitbox is perfect and the raid scene isn't completely toxic at all.


The ONLY downside to the TLP's is that they haven't made a PvP one yet.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

Agnarr will be a clusterfuck with at least a few plat bugs first couple weeks.

DBG will open a second server fast. That is the one to wait for. Create a char on Agnarr, but wait to form your guild till they start up the second server.

[Phenyo]

Agnarr will be a clusterfuck with at least a few plat bugs first couple weeks.

DBG will open a second server fast. That is the one to wait for. Create a char on Agnarr, but wait to form your guild till they start up the second server.

This, people think agnarr will be the last.

HAHA what a bunch of morans

[Soandso]

OOOO I'd like to try...
I numbered them to make this easier for us all.

1) Highly unlikely with a "true-box" system, but sure, maybe there will be a few. Just remember that this costs $90/mo to actually accomplish. So yeah that's like your opinion
2) I know they said this, but I fully expect to get a GM presence of some kind similar to the other TLP's. So more of your own speculation even in the face of what the actual company said, k.
3) Lol yeah, no different than here. So like more opinion, cept its just plain wrong again. P99 has had multiple massive suspension/wave bans and also have a anti-cheat .DLL that comes packaged with the installation.I'm sure on a server that they said will have no GM intervention their really going to be on top of this.
4) See above answer. Yes RMT has reared its ugly head on this server. However,
like above, people have been banned for this and again on a server with zero GMs I don't see that enforcement happening. Also, with the Krono system there's an incentive there that's not on this server.
5) I play Red so it won't be worse than that XP boost and, frankly, XP is not something I was ever concerned about with "Classic". More personal opinion which is fine but one of the things that is synonymous with true classic EQ is how much of a grind it was and that appeals to a lot of the veterans. Also, you play Red lulz, no wonder.
6) Better than years of the same expansion (Ohai Kunark).Deflection, no dispute to the original claim. I would daresay most of the casuals actually prefer slower timelines than faster ones, especially the super hyper timelines these progressions servers have.Not to mention LDON, ewwww but that's just like my opinion,man. Though, I'm pretty sure the consensus was most people hate it too.
7) You're confused. Melee are utter garbage to start. Casters reign supreme. Both melee and casters are unbalanced in early game, not sure if you have played a progression before. I had wizard rain spells that did several waves of hundred point damage that made early mobs trivial. So yes balance issues are a legit concern.
8) Got me here. Tons of QoL stuff in-game. Not classic but again some will like some won't.
9) I'm not certain that's true. Manastone and Guise will still drop upon release. Going off other progression servers, it would seem like Legacy items will drop for a short period of time.
10) I think it's more likely things that are normally quite expensive will be much less so. Or sell for Kronos.
11 & 12) I combined these because I legitimately think you have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses that received buffed values are not instanced. Open world dragons are not instanced. I would say only about half the raid content is instanced. Not to mention EVERY single instanced version of a raid ALSO has a contested "Classic" version as well. Instanced EQ is a preference thing but still just seems to against everything that is classic EQ.
13) Oh you were just trolling this whole time. Because this shitbox is perfect and the raid scene isn't completely toxic at all. Hakubi's post was void of the language you used here and was pretty well thought out with valid concerns, some that you couldn't even dispute. Also, you play on Red so yeah.


The ONLY downside to the TLP's is that they haven't made a PvP one yet.

Don't really get why people have a problem with which servers people play on. Go play on whichever server you choose,to each their own, doesn't mean you have to trash any server. These devs volunteer their time to give us the closest thing to classic EQ and its had a steady and healthy population for like 8 years now so its obviously not a "shitbox" like you called it, then again you play on Red so I can understand that. Still not a reason to sound like an ungrateful mad person and insult their work.Why can't you just simply go play on the Daybreak servers and not trash this one. I honestly hope you enjoy your time there. Good day sir.

[Soandso]

And my italics didn't work and that's a giant wall of TLDR text.

[Soandso]

Lol why are you on such a crusade here, why does it bother you so much people choose to play here, do you or family work for Daybreak or something? Also, like others have said plenty of guilds here raid and don't do that so your point is moot. You trash the "Classic" aspect here yet you are going on and on for a server that utilizes xp pots, QOL items, revamped zones etc.

Why can't you people just go play that server, why must you also trash this one? You're almost as bad as the "Come try Red" crowd.

[Bruno]

Lol why are you on such a crusade here, why does it bother you so much people choose to play here, do you or family work for Daybreak or something? Also, like others have said plenty of guilds here raid and don't do that so your point is moot. You trash the "Classic" aspect here yet you are going on and on for a server that utilizes xp pots, QOL items, revamped zones etc.

Why can't you people just go play that server, why must you also trash this one? You're almost as bad as the "Come try Red" crowd.

[maskedmelonpai]

Instantly lost me and most everyone else that frequents RNF right here btw

it remind me this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U

[LostCause]

Too long, filed under: drugs

[Swish]

Who thinks Agnarr is going to be the last TLP? That's retarded. I hope it's not even close to the last.

They'll keep putting up new ones as long as people continue to jump from the old ones...which is going to be for a long time yet :o

Anyone get a recent headcount for Lockjaw? lol

[Swish]

Why can't you people just go play that server, why must you also trash this one? You're almost as bad as the "Come try Red" crowd.

How dare you...

http://i.imgur.com/NjCTJsx.gif

[AzzarTheGod]

Too long

drugs

[Spyder73]

An era locked server will not work with instancing. There will be no economy

[nhdjoseywales]

[QUOTE=Sadre Spinegnawer;2519084]Agnarr will be a clusterfuck with at least a few plat bugs first couple weeks.

DBG will open a second server fast. That is the one to wait for. Create a char on Agnarr, but wait to form your guild till they start up the second server.[/QUOTE


Right, because they have never done a TLP before and have no experience doing this and in any event, any issue means start over and throw an entirely new set of resources at the problem instead of fixing it on the set you already deployed.

I'm unsure if you can actually count to potato but god bless you for trying.

[Pokesan]

i don't mind tryhards burning out fast, that's not what a pop locked server is for

[maskedmelonpai]

Like the economy on P1999 that purely revolves around MQ and 1-4manning epic content to MQ/cockblocking?

there a simple solution if someone cockblocking you. jus go in anyway. they either gonna step back to fight you (most likely outcome, butt it free up you target and then you have a chance to take it!) or they jus smile at you ambition and help you finish up. i dont understand why this so hard to figure out. what the deal???

why so many bluebs always want a booty line? win you own booty liek pirate do. have fun, enjoy the toussle an hug or shake hands when it through. quit with all the moping around "iwannaturntoooooo!!!!!" stuff :c jus go after it and have fun :3 make friends, get loot, be happy.

[kjs86z]

there a simple solution if someone cockblocking you. jus go in anyway. they either gonna step back to fight you (most likely outcome, butt it free up you target and then you have a chance to take it!) or they jus smile at you ambition and help you finish up. i dont understand why this so hard to figure out. what the deal???

why so many bluebs always want a booty line? win you own booty liek pirate do. have fun, enjoy the toussle an hug or shake hands when it through. quit with all the moping around "iwannaturntoooooo!!!!!" stuff :c jus go after it and have fun :3 make friends, get loot, be happy.


wat

[maskedmelonpai]

wat

wat wat?

[AzzarTheGod]

i don't mind tryhards burning out fast, that's not what a pop locked server is for

woke. look at this philosopher, our 2017 Aristotle

[NachtMystium]

Do people really enjoy playing on a server filled with boxers?

How can you tell yourself youre having fun when everyone else playing on the server is this guy?

Seriously, stop lying to yourself. I guess self-deprecation is the only thing that keeps anyone still playing this game going, to be honest.(taken from the Agnarr prep FB group)
http://i.imgur.com/ZEiLd8n.jpg

[NachtMystium]

You just ignore these types of guys and play with your friends. joys of instances

so basically you never expect to actually meet new people and make new friendships, which as corny as it sounds, I guarantee you people on these forums are closer than people in their real lives.

[Pokesan]

so basically you never expect to actually meet new people and make new friendships, which as corny as it sounds, I guarantee you people on these forums are closer than people in their real lives.

lol

[NachtMystium]

lol

this 4.2k post ***** gonna try and say he doesnt have a doritos / mtn dew dispenser right next to his automatic felatio machine once he dings in EQ

[radda]

I hope that is that dudes real mugshot.
Oh boy

[Pokesan]

this 4.2k post ***** gonna try and say he doesnt have a doritos / mtn dew dispenser right next to his automatic felatio machine once he dings in EQ

tell me more about being closer to your pixel pals than anyone irl

[NachtMystium]

tell me more about being closer to your pixel pals than anyone irl

well, if you can say people on this forum have social life > than virtual life, please explain that. I think that would be more entertaining.

[Swish]

Friends are gone in an instance usually, amirite guys? ;)

[NachtMystium]

Friends are gone in an instance usually, amirite guys? ;)

I can't help but agree.

I mean, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8J8Q7e27SAY&t=3s) is the kind of friendship we're trying to achieve here.

might as well just instance every server to friends only amirite??

[Bruno]

Sounds like you guys can all be pals together

[kempofuryfist]

You have P2002! Great server 3 boxing and doesn't hurt finding groups one bit.
Been here about 3 weeks loving it

[Caiu]

Let me known when there is a single competent coder working on the project. As it is they seem to have mediocre at best devs.

[Nightbear]

you banned there yet?

[Swish]

TAKP is the sane choice of the two. P2002 is for the padded room types.

[nhdjoseywales]

Another retard doom and gloom thread by people who realize they will soon be playing here mostly alone.

[Spyder73]

I played Phiny for a bit and it was honestly not bad - My main complaint was the ongoing nature of it...I have no desire to play through all of EQ's expansions at some predetermined pace. Agnar might actually be pretty cool...but it will never be P99, and P99 will never be Agnar.

You guys realize you can play on both servers right?

[gildor]

TAKP is the sane choice of the two. P2002 is for the padded room types.

Have you played on the bullshit client that TAKP runs on?

[Viper7]

p2002 more fun than i ever had on p99. more content and aa's are out now luclin looks great and the devs do a great job on csr work and fixing things

[Nightbear]

why is everyone who likes this random server speaking in broken english

[Yasi]

Just another one afraid that people leave for Agnarr, so noone left on p99 to look at his shiny armor in EC tunnel.

[kempofuryfist]

Yeah and no bullshit DLL spyware that P99 has.

[Odann]

Certain items will never drop. Manastone is one example. Guise will drop though. Other than that post is mostly accurate.

Really? On the EQ sub some people seem to think it will.

OOOO I'd like to try...


Don't really get why people have a problem with which servers people play on. Go play on whichever server you choose,to each their own, doesn't mean you have to trash any server. These devs volunteer their time to give us the closest thing to classic EQ and its had a steady and healthy population for like 8 years now so its obviously not a "shitbox" like you called it, then again you play on Red so I can understand that. Still not a reason to sound like an ungrateful mad person and insult their work.Why can't you just simply go play on the Daybreak servers and not trash this one. I honestly hope you enjoy your time there. Good day sir.

I think you interpreted my list as a bash to this server. It wasn't. I love P99 but to put it any higher than "shitbox" is just naive. If you truly think the dev's, namely Rogean, care about the player-base you are sorely mistaken. Go read the leaked chat logs on reddit if you're unsure. Quite the eye opener as to how exactly the staff views us.

I was merely responding to a fun list of things about the server. That's all. Nothing more. I love that P99 is a thing but considering the fact that they trolled us real hard with a Discord server and then signed an agreement with DBG I don't really have an attachment here anymore. I have my 60's with epics and it's nice to login and stare at them from time to time but that's about all it is now. This server is dead at Velious and likely to repeat what we had in Kunark. Years of nothing....

If that sounds fun to you then that's awesome! It's not fun for me anymore and I miss some things from SoL and PoP.

This will always be the best and most true form of Classic EQ but it's peak has passed and the dev's have shown us they couldn't give any shits about it.

[Sadiki]

Pretty much. I think a lot of people are in the same mindset that I am right now. P99 is a good emulation and has a great community, which is what I really need in this toxic MMO market nowadays... but it's never going to stop being a cockblock, poopsocking petitionfest of not being able to do any content unless you respond to batphones instead of having a job or sleeping. And even if you do that - you still see no content or dungeon crawling, just the pixels the mobs drop.

Agnarr, on the other hand, is going to have a much smaller feeling community, crap like cash shop items and all that.. but you'll, y'know, see the game past the first doorway in a zone and maybe actually play it.

P99 has such potential to just simply be fun for hundreds more people. I don't understand reliving nostalgia in a game released in 1999 but being blocked out of content unless you dedicate your life to wall/stair-staring for 16 hours a mob, logging on to autoattack a mob being pulled to zone, or to spam click to get lodi/scout, or any of the other unfun toxic garbage that exists in an otherwise fantastic environment.

[Sadiki]

TAKP is the sane choice of the two. P2002 is for the padded room types.
TAKP is only good for people who box themselves up with pet classes or other boring lazy shit. Everything just feels horrible there, and every mob runs at the goddamn speed of light and makes a 180 turn every time your weapon swing comes up. These servers are suited to people who only play EQ as a background window to Netflix.

[kempofuryfist]

p2002 Is on titanium client and over all feels more or less like P99 without people shitting all over the raiding scene and the poopsocking / 3AM batphones.

[nhdjoseywales]

Really? On the EQ sub some people seem to think it will.



I think you interpreted my list as a bash to this server. It wasn't. I love P99 but to put it any higher than "shitbox" is just naive. If you truly think the dev's, namely Rogean, care about the player-base you are sorely mistaken. Go read the leaked chat logs on reddit if you're unsure. Quite the eye opener as to how exactly the staff views us.

I was merely responding to a fun list of things about the server. That's all. Nothing more. I love that P99 is a thing but considering the fact that they trolled us real hard with a Discord server and then signed an agreement with DBG I don't really have an attachment here anymore. I have my 60's with epics and it's nice to login and stare at them from time to time but that's about all it is now. This server is dead at Velious and likely to repeat what we had in Kunark. Years of nothing....

If that sounds fun to you then that's awesome! It's not fun for me anymore and I miss some things from SoL and PoP.

This will always be the best and most true form of Classic EQ but it's peak has passed and the dev's have shown us they couldn't give any shits about it.

Didn't drop on Phinny, wont drop on Agnarr.

[loramin]

Is Project 2002 going to allow 3-boxing forever, or is that just temporary until they get enough population? Because I do miss Luclin/PoP ...

[dafier]

...cock...?

[dafier]

Why isn't this thread locked yet?

[dafier]

Have you played on the bullshit client that TAKP runs on?

Asking padded room questions like this only encourages him.

[gildor]

Is Project 2002 going to allow 3-boxing forever, or is that just temporary until they get enough population? Because I do miss Luclin/PoP ...

no plans to limit boxing, it's actually possible to solo box and enjoy the game there as well..

[nhdjoseywales]

Can't w8 to see P99 pop dive in 2 weeks. Keep making more threads and get the word out <3

P.S. Anyone that played Phinigel for more than 20 minutes knows people boxing more than 2 is more of the exception rather than the rule. Sure they exist but it's not like every camp is filled with a 6 boxer soloing it. The VAST majority of groups are all individual people or maybe some dual boxers.

I've only run into one 6 boxer and that was in seb recently. You really don't see them doing current content that other people compete for. Its way too easy to train/fuck up a 6 boxer and waste an hour of his time gathering corpses, rezzing, getting all the shit set back up.

At my peak I 5 boxed in Griegs in era but I stayed at the zone in and pulled to there to reduce potential conflicts with others. Now 3 boxing chanter/cleric/toon to the powerleveled is about all i am willing to do.

[branamil]

I would only try Agnarr if I can use pre-luclin graphics. Everything looks like a fetal alcohol down abortion after that.

[Daldaen]

If you're not one of the three neckbeard racing guilds on P99 right now you should greatly consider moving over to Agnarr to be able to access content and be able to experience the better raid content of Luclin+PoP eventually.

As long as the current P99 server staff stays in place, the raid scene will never open up to the 10 casual guilds hanging around unfortunately.

[nhdjoseywales]

If you're not one of the three neckbeard racing guilds on P99 right now you should greatly consider moving over to Agnarr to be able to access content and be able to experience the better raid content of Luclin+PoP eventually.

As long as the current P99 server staff stays in place, the raid scene will never open up to the 10 casual guilds hanging around unfortunately.

This, go forge new friendships and actually kill shit.

[Secrets]

Agnarr is an actual official Daybreak Games server with dedicated customer support and a professional management / development team.

P2002 is a bunch of rebellious folks who made a server because they didn't want to share raid targets on another server that people have to wait in line for loot in.

Instancing is the #1 thing that will save that server. Unless, of course, you like poopsocking or sharing your loot with completely random fucknuts for some absurd reason. Krono exists to provide a way to RMT but endorsed by Daybreak.

You'd be a fool to play anywhere else unless you're playing to have fun, in which case play on Project 1999 and steer clear of raiding.

[Pokesan]

TAKP is only good for people who box themselves up with pet classes or other boring lazy shit. Everything just feels horrible there, and every mob runs at the goddamn speed of light and makes a 180 turn every time your weapon swing comes up. These servers are suited to people who only play EQ as a background window to Netflix.

did you submit a bug report? (not asking to sass)

[loramin]

What will P99's population be on May 24th?

A lot less, which will be great because it's been kind of crowded around here lately.

But the real question is, what will P99's population be on November 24th (6 months later)? My prediction: the same as now if not higher, because I expect most people will return when 6 months (or less) of playing on live reminds them why they left live and came to P99 in the first place.

[Pokesan]

A lot less, which will be great because it's been kind of crowded around here lately.

But the real question is, what will P99's population be on November 24th (6 months later)? My prediction: the same as now if not higher, because I expect most people will return when 6 months (or less) of playing on live reminds them why they left live and came to P99 in the first place.

what makes you think 7 years of p99 hasn't exhausted the supply of new blood? it has to stop somewhere. are you just positive about everything???

[skipdog]

Wow, what a horrible loot system. Just use dkp.

[skipdog]

RMT, instances and horrible models/animations... yeah that sounds fun. lol

[Pokesan]

it does look fun. thanks for the thread.

[dafier]

P2002 is a bunch of rebellious folks who made a server because they didn't want to share raid targets on another server that people have to wait in line for loot in.


Please share more of your salt. Too bad you are the only dev who personally can't get over stuff. It's sad. :(

[Secrets]

Please share more of your salt. Too bad you are the only dev who personally can't get over stuff. It's sad. :(

Just stating facts. :)

[dafier]

@Secrets

I know...for a fact that you are a brilliant coder. I know this is RnF, but that whole situation just sucks. I wish the fences could be mended in a manner of which 2 different servers could still exist, but co-op coding help could be lent in either direction.

sorry for getting serious but I really needed to get this off my chest....including other nasty things... :O

[branamil]

Well it's pretty illogical to assume if year 7 hasn't exhausted the supply of new blood, year 8 would.

[Tankdan]

Come to EQ test Server

you get free expansions (all but the last one) and free Gold accounts.. Im having a blast!

Shardze level 102 bard

[Phenyo]

Agnarr is an actual official Daybreak Games server with dedicated customer support and a professional management / development team.

P2002 is a bunch of rebellious folks who made a server because they didn't want to share raid targets on another server that people have to wait in line for loot in.

Instancing is the #1 thing that will save that server. Unless, of course, you like poopsocking or sharing your loot with completely random fucknuts for some absurd reason. Krono exists to provide a way to RMT but endorsed by Daybreak.

You'd be a fool to play anywhere else unless you're playing to have fun, in which case play on Project 1999 and steer clear of raiding.

The TLPs have zero gm presence and KS/training is fair game.

[Tankdan]

Well it's pretty illogical to assume if year 7 hasn't exhausted the supply of new blood, year 8 would.

What kept a lot of people around was the anticipation of new expansions. P99 is now at it's end, minus "custom content" in which case most of us didnt come to P99 for custom content.

Luclin, which launched in 2001, is not "classic" according to the Devs here, so it's bow out time.

[Pokesan]

Well it's pretty illogical to assume if year 7 hasn't exhausted the supply of new blood, year 8 would.

please do not interrupt me while i am running game

[Tankdan]

Best thing about Agnarr is that somebody 6 boxing will not effect me one bit. Heck, they're helping fund the project so more power to them.

[Daldaen]

The TLPs have zero gm presence and KS/training is fair game.

If you think the intent of CSR was to intermediate player-player interactions, P99 has poisoned your mind. That isn't their point. Be an adult and work shit out with other people. That is the glory of Daybreak servers.

You don't have to run to some GM when someone takes your mob. You turn the other cheek, you take it back, you bring reinforcements to force them out or you train them. It just depends on where your moral compass points. But Daybreak servers actually leave that decision up to you, you know... cause you're playing an emulated version of an 18 year old game and quite literally have to be an adult at this point.

[Squabbles123]

If you're going to play with multi-boxers, you might as well play alone in god mode on your own server.

Basically the same, nobodies "achievements" mean anything in a world with 6-boxers running around.

I'd rather screw around on a 6 year old server where I know 99% of the people got whatever they got legit then on a new one where people are allowed to "cheat".

Sure, it sounds fun now, but in 6 months when all the 6-boxers are camping everything, I fail to see how thats better than p99.

Plus nothing after Velious appeals to me at all. Cat people on the moon was a dumb idea in 2001 and its still dumb today.

[Phenyo]

You'll see a lot of the casual guilds who cant compete in the poopsock game of thrones bow out to agnarr.

p99 cant last forever but agnarr wont be the thing that kills it.

[Zemus]

More like playing live on Lockjaw or Phinigel in preparation.

[kempofuryfist]

Instancing is the #1 thing that will save that server. Unless, of course, you like poopsocking or sharing your loot with completely random fucknuts for some absurd reason.
.

You must be talking about P99 here I assume? Because this is 100% P99.
On P2002 there had been no lack of targets and we have been able to have an actual schedule for targets. No poopsocking no FTE messages with timers good ol EQ fun without the P99 BS.

[maskedmelonpai]

luclin coulda been ok if they done it right. i mean obviously it shoulda been bunny peoples on the moon, but that aside, soe was just awful with their anthro characters. cat people should have liek cat ears, tails and MAYBE pointy teeth or claws or whiskers or some other patches of fur or something. THAT IT!!! but NOOOOOO, they go ad make some super skinny persons with kinda cat feets and a fricken puma head


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learn to make fantasy worlds. And then the moon was like full of RANDOM_SPACE_MONSTER123. i mean get a theme going and carry over variations of norath creatures and stuff. i would expect liek space orcs and grey goblins.

[Andos]

If you're going to play with multi-boxers, you might as well play alone in god mode on your own server.

Basically the same, nobodies "achievements" mean anything in a world with 6-boxers running around.

I'd rather screw around on a 6 year old server where I know 99% of the people got whatever they got legit then on a new one where people are allowed to "cheat".

Sure, it sounds fun now, but in 6 months when all the 6-boxers are camping everything, I fail to see how thats better than p99.

Plus nothing after Velious appeals to me at all. Cat people on the moon was a dumb idea in 2001 and its still dumb today.

omgz 6 boxers are ruining my ability to kill mobs in ToV and ST because their achievements don't count. Oh wait it wouldn't impact me in the slightest or most of the others moving because we're not playing to get the achievement of being first neckbeard on the server to get divorced so I could be firsties.

[Squabbles123]

omgz 6 boxers are ruining my ability to kill mobs in ToV and ST because their achievements don't count. Oh wait it wouldn't impact me in the slightest or most of the others moving because we're not playing to get the achievement of being first neckbeard on the server to get divorced so I could be firsties.


Yeah, but it will when you go to raid and find "raid scene" is 5-10 people 6 boxing.

It'll impact you when 6 drops in 1 dungeon are all being farmed by 1 person on 6 accounts.

But you go, have fun, P99 is a bit over-crowded anyway, could stand to drop a few players.

I just hope the people who sit and farm hill giants on their level 60's for 12 hours a day leave.

[loramin]

are you just positive about everything???

I try. But also I'm just looking at the past: P99 has proved itself resilient, despite past events that were supposed to kill it, while live has proved itself to be ... disappointing for many P99-ers.

[Andos]

Yeah, but it will when you go to raid and find "raid scene" is 5-10 people 6 boxing.

It'll impact you when 6 drops in 1 dungeon are all being farmed by 1 person on 6 accounts.

But you go, have fun, P99 is a bit over-crowded anyway, could stand to drop a few players.

I just hope the people who sit and farm hill giants on their level 60's for 12 hours a day leave.

Considering they're the ones that are probably being roadblocked by people that want to unload green/white scales or earth staffs so someone can make a couple bucks I'm guessing some will leave.

[AzzarTheGod]

hows that C+D letter coming bros when agnarr ends up not doing that well

[Grubbz]

hows that C+D letter coming bros when agnarr ends up not doing that well

your on crack if you think agnarr wont have double or triple p99s pop.

[Pokesan]

drain the swamp

[Daldaen]

GUYS CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/test-update-05-09-17-patch-notes-and-discussion.240325/

- In classic zones (Velious and earlier), many weapons, shields, and other held items have reverted to their classic appearance
- Classic monsters across Norrath, celebrate! In classic zones (Lost Dungeons of Norrath and earlier), many creatures have reverted to their classic appearance. This change affects the following models: skeleton, bat, rat, snake, spider, drake, orc, goblin, puma, lion, kobold, zombie, mummy, basilisk/alligator, spectre, and wolf.

Inc classic server!

[Phenyo]

GUYS CHECK THIS SHIT OUT!

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/index.php?threads/test-update-05-09-17-patch-notes-and-discussion.240325/



Inc classic server!

Just looks like they are using classic models in oldworld zones, which is pras, but not changing the zones themselves (disgusting new FP).

[NachtMystium]

Why would you play on a public server when you have no desire to play with anyone else that you don't know? Why would you want to be on a server with other people that will never interact with you. The only reason is to have a refreshed timeline. Once that's over, you'll realize you are only playing with you and your boxed chars. along with a few friends. There is no reason for it to be an online experience.

http://i.imgur.com/2apXKr0.png

[Phenyo]

These people have elf brain rot and think boxing equates to skill

[loramin]

These people have elf brain rot and think boxing equates to skill

Eh, I think scripting and managing all those characters really does require a certain amount of skill. Honestly what they're doing probably takes a lot more brain power than the average P99 leveler uses.

Of course I would never want to do that myself, or play on a server with people who do, but to each their own.

[NachtMystium]

Alt-Tabbing to cast heal takes a certain amount of skill

Yeah I guess it does if you are a vegetable

[loramin]

Yeah I guess it does if you are a vegetable

more brain power than the average P99 leveler uses

[NachtMystium]

Lol, I can't argue with that :)

[Soandso]

Like I've been saying to the posters who are going to play Agnarr and have been bashing this server and the people who play here......why do you care so much? Why does it bother you what other people do with their spare time?

[radda]

For the same reason I try to reason with religious family members that are stuck in a cult. It may seem like I'm against you or just being mean but I'm doing it out of love. I love my family and I want them to be healthy and not stuck in a disgusting toxic environment. I care about my fellow elf sim pals as well and I want them to break free of this disgusting toxic environment as well.

P99 raiding is possibly the most toxic thing in any video game that I'm aware of and the people in charge seemingly have no interest whatsoever in correcting it. There was a point in time that I didn't see it for what it is and it took some prodding from friends to help me see it for what it really is and finally walk away from it to a healthier alternative. Very much the same as the cult-like religion I was born into and eventually saw it for what it was and left. I'm much better off having left in both cases and I try to help others do the same.

Consider Agnarr

Seriously?

[Yasi]

I think p99 was a great experience. But competition is good for the consumers.

[Valura]

>not having a charm pet

[Bruno]

You are pretty fixated on the whole meeting friends online thing. That's not a goal for everyone. Some of us actually have a social life outside of virtual reality. Besides that fact, I met and stayed pals with more people in a couple months of TLP than I did in years of p99.

[Xzavie]

Yeah, but it will when you go to raid and find "raid scene" is 5-10 people 6 boxing.

It'll impact you when 6 drops in 1 dungeon are all being farmed by 1 person on 6 accounts.

But you go, have fun, P99 is a bit over-crowded anyway, could stand to drop a few players.

I just hope the people who sit and farm hill giants on their level 60's for 12 hours a day leave.

This may be true on many servers, but it won't be true on Agnarr. Agnarr is a true box server, like Phinny. Phinny doesn't have raids full of six boxers. There are a few people that two box on raids, but not that many. There is a high demand for raid spots on Phinny and I expect Agnarr to be the same. Severs without truebox, like LockJaw and Ragefire, are like you describe.

People that don't even play on a TLP are trying to over dramatize boxing. Go play on Phinny, and you will see that boxing (beyond 2 boxing) is the minority. A small minority. Most groups are composed of single boxers.

[AzzarTheGod]

Seriously?

*browses assorted lenses on Amazon*

[Swish]

I met and stayed pals with more people in a couple months of TLP than I did in years of p99.

Given your attitude on the forum I'm not surprised lol

[shuklak]

This may be true on many servers, but it won't be true on Agnarr. Agnarr is a true box server, like Phinny. Phinny doesn't have raids full of six boxers. There are a few people that two box on raids, but not that many. There is a high demand for raid spots on Phinny and I expect Agnarr to be the same. Severs without truebox, like LockJaw and Ragefire, are like you describe.

People that don't even play on a TLP are trying to over dramatize boxing. Go play on Phinny, and you will see that boxing (beyond 2 boxing) is the minority. A small minority. Most groups are composed of single boxers.

It does sound like they've put some real steps to prevent 2 boxing.

Does it happen? probably... but it definitely sounds like your day to day gameplay simply won't see 2 boxing.

[burkemi5]

Boxing 13 characters on 13 different laptops would be a huge pain in the ass. But it's DEFINITELY not harder than trying to stay awake as you press your CH macro every 2-3 minutes. Definitely not harder than that, cuz p99 is the pinnacle of EQ difficulty, and anyone who leaves just can't hack it.

[Xzavie]

It does sound like they've put some real steps to prevent 2 boxing.

Does it happen? probably... but it definitely sounds like your day to day gameplay simply won't see 2 boxing.

This is not true, they have put in steps to prevent boxing from the same machine. You will see your fair share of two boxers, but you won't see the mage armies that you see on other servers. Boxing is permitted, but each toon must be on a separate physical machine. You will see boxers out farming and such, you may be in a group with a person that is boxing, but boxing is not a rampant problem. Guild raid spots are in high demand, so you will not see anyone 6-10 boxing on raids as was stated earlier. There may be a few pocket healers here and there, but most raids are single boxed. Most pick up groups are single boxed. Its hard to get 2 toons in a group unless you start the group.

[nhdjoseywales]

Yeah, but it will when you go to raid and find "raid scene" is 5-10 people 6 boxing.

It'll impact you when 6 drops in 1 dungeon are all being farmed by 1 person on 6 accounts.

But you go, have fun, P99 is a bit over-crowded anyway, could stand to drop a few players.

I just hope the people who sit and farm hill giants on their level 60's for 12 hours a day leave.

That's not how it works on Phinny. I'm one of the few that might box 3 toons on raids, I only know of one other person who does more. 99 percent of Phinny plays one toon at a time be it raid or group. I have played on Phinny since launch and none of the issues you idiots keep throwing up have ever been reality. There are no mage box armies dominating open world content. There is no such thing as pay to win. There is no danger of the server dying off anytime soon, people are drooling in anticipation of GoD and OOW. There are lots of nice people to meet and play with regularly. Have I missed any of the usual tropes?

[Papa]

I have played on Phinny since launch and none of the issues you idiots keep throwing up have ever been reality.

[gildor]

I was part of a pretty cool "classic progression" guild on the test server.. we just progressed classicaly..didn't use mercs or defiant gear..and went expansion to expansion..it was a lot of fun

no the mechanics weren't 100% classic, but playing that way was pretty much the precursor that lead me to p99 :)

I think all of these classic type servers and experiences have merit, and good times can be had..

[loramin]

You will see your fair share of two boxers ... You will see boxers out farming and such, you may be in a group with a person that is boxing ... There may be a few pocket healers here and there ...


but boxing is not a rampant problem.

I think reasonable people might disagree with your definition of "rampant problem."

[nhdjoseywales]

I think reasonable people might disagree with your definition of "rampant problem."

Or you could just have a massively skewed and irrational view of what constitutes a problem in the first place. It would appear that anyone playing the game differently than your narrow interpretation of how it should be played is a problem. Just shut the fuck up with your whiney bullshit already. You don't play on Phinny so your speculation is about as meaningful as my speculation on the daily life of pacific island headhunters.

[nhdjoseywales]

What a pacific island headhunter may look like.....
http://www.comicbookreligion.com/img/_num/31000/31857.jpg

[Crookstinger]

I was part of a pretty cool "classic progression" guild on the test server.. we just progressed classicaly..didn't use mercs or defiant gear..and went expansion to expansion..it was a lot of fun

no the mechanics weren't 100% classic, but playing that way was pretty much the precursor that lead me to p99 :)

I think all of these classic type servers and experiences have merit, and good times can be had..
I think I was in the same guild (or maybe the precursor, depending on which one you were in). I started in Remnants of Kunark which changed shortly thereafter to Unintended Consequences. When UC petered out I was in Intended Consequences very briefly but just didn't have it in me to do it again (but I remade my IC character on P99!).

[Tankdan]

I'm 3-boxing right now on EQ Live.. You guys should see the person next to me, he's going NUTS that I am boxing a group of my own, telling me how it ruins the game and that I should just play a single player offline game instead lmao.

Oh, wait.... he doesn't care.. He's boxing as well, worrying about his own self, not some made up issue that fantasy nerds think they care about.

[shuklak]

Remind me off those other box servers... maybe EZ? Where you play 2 groups i eventually realized i would rather just play 1toon and enjoy it. I think it's why p99 is so successful. In a way they force you to group and enjoy the journey more...

But then the idea of 12 mage pets hitting a red Hadden in open world does sound fun for the first few times lol.

[Squabbles123]

I'm 3-boxing right now on EQ Live.. You guys should see the person next to me, he's going NUTS that I am boxing a group of my own, telling me how it ruins the game and that I should just play a single player offline game instead lmao.

Oh, wait.... he doesn't care.. He's boxing as well, worrying about his own self, not some made up issue that fantasy nerds think they care about.


So everyone is boxing confirmed?

This is suppose to make me want to play there?

What "made up" issues are you talking about? The fact you just confirmed most people are boxing?

If you're gonna box, just play alone, on a server with just yourself, you are basically already doing that as far as I see it, so why not just go all the way?

Oh, right, cause you want people to see your epic pixels and think you're someone cool right? Shame you cheated to get those pixels, as does apparently everyone else.

You folks need to make your own server, so you can 6-box all night, every night, by yourself, instead of ruining the game for others because you lack the ability to group with others.

[loramin]

I think reasonable people might disagree with your definition of "rampant problem."

Or you could just have a massively skewed and irrational view of what constitutes a problem in the first place. It would appear that anyone playing the game differently than your narrow interpretation of how it should be played is a problem. Just shut the fuck up with your whiney bullshit already. You don't play on Phinny so your speculation is about as meaningful as my speculation on the daily life of pacific island headhunters.

So either every reasonable person agrees with your crazy little rant, OR reasonable people can disagree. I wonder which it is ...

[NachtMystium]

Boxing 13 characters on 13 different laptops would be a huge pain in the ass. But it's DEFINITELY not harder than trying to stay awake as you press your CH macro every 2-3 minutes. Definitely not harder than that, cuz p99 is the pinnacle of EQ difficulty, and anyone who leaves just can't hack it.

Lol agreed. Im not saying it's a difficulty thing, and I don't necessarily have a problem with people playing there. I just want to know why you would want to play an online game if you'd rather just box with yourself?

[radda]

*browses assorted lenses on Amazon*

Should buy an aactual camera over that iPhone with clip on lenses. My film and dsls own your Apple products

[Sadiki]

All of the threads being merged together has confused my tiny brain.

[Tankdan]

So everyone is boxing confirmed?

This is suppose to make me want to play there?

What "made up" issues are you talking about? The fact you just confirmed most people are boxing?

If you're gonna box, just play alone, on a server with just yourself, you are basically already doing that as far as I see it, so why not just go all the way?

Oh, right, cause you want people to see your epic pixels and think you're someone cool right? Shame you cheated to get those pixels, as does apparently everyone else.

You folks need to make your own server, so you can 6-box all night, every night, by yourself, instead of ruining the game for others because you lack the ability to group with others.

Why do you care so much about other peoples pixels? What part of Agnarr not allowing 2boxing don't you understand? Plus it's instanced, so who fukking cares. 100+ Lord Naggy's will easily be slain in any given week, you realize that right? So please tell me more about how boxing will hurt the server LOL.

The only ones boxing are going full neckbeard mode using multiple laptops and shit which will be hardly anyone. Like I said, made up issue by nerds that don't even play progression servers.

[Daldaen]

The hatred of boxing, on an instanced server with pick zones and instanced raids generally comes down to someone thinking they'll be left out if they don't box. You won't. Trust me.

Especially if you grab a few of your friends currently on P99 who are raging about not being able to get Fungi camp 7 years later or not being able to experience a Dozekar or Vulak raid. Get them to roll some toons with you on Agnarr and you've got yourself a classic EQ party. You'll be in LGuk doing big things in no time.

[Secrets]

The hatred of boxing, on an instanced server with pick zones and instanced raids generally comes down to someone thinking they'll be left out if they don't box. You won't. Trust me.

Especially if you grab a few of your friends currently on P99 who are raging about not being able to get Fungi camp 7 years later or not being able to experience a Dozekar or Vulak raid. Get them to roll some toons with you on Agnarr and you've got yourself a classic EQ party. You'll be in LGuk doing big things in no time.

This times infinity. Everyone thinks that the issue is going to be overpopulation on any server. That's true. Any server over 200 characters will have an issue with overpopulation. The game isn't fun when there's some full group at your camp or another raid at your raid target, and there's nothing you can do about it. P2002 has problems, TAKP has problems, and lord knows P99 has problems with it.

There's peaceful resolutions to these scenarios, but jeez, I've played and developed these things long enough to know that's never going to happen because too many are concerned about rushing. The better option is to do instancing with a 'you're on your own' ruleset like Verant/SOE/Daybreak did on live. And you do realize that you get your own personal Nagafen, Vox, Vindi, etc, once per week under Daybreak's instancing, right? It's like EQ for people with actual lives and jobs.

If you're not going to do instancing, however..

The core problem lies in the mentality of the players that compete for raid targets. They are just concerned about the destination and not the journey to 60.

They don't realize how much fun they could have just leveling up new characters or trying something new ingame. Challenge yourself a little bit. Put artificial limitations on yourself like no twinking or handouts. Play a class you've never played before. Do a shitty quest - not for the reward but for the adventure.

The biggest problem is everyone knows the path of least resistance and is told to follow it. They do, they get to endgame, and poopsock raid mobs. Try and do crazy things no one else can, or wants to do, in the game instead of raiding - there's a reason the most popular EQ streams right now are people like Burytoe.

[NachtMystium]

Should buy an aactual camera over that iPhone with clip on lenses. My film and dsls own your Apple products

yea i bet you got them DSLs

[Squabbles123]

Why do you care so much about other peoples pixels? What part of Agnarr not allowing 2boxing don't you understand? Plus it's instanced, so who fukking cares. 100+ Lord Naggy's will easily be slain in any given week, you realize that right? So please tell me more about how boxing will hurt the server LOL.

The only ones boxing are going full neckbeard mode using multiple laptops and shit which will be hardly anyone. Like I said, made up issue by nerds that don't even play progression servers.

What I care about it people hogging content.

This "instance" thing only solves high end raiding. It does nothing for named mobs around all of Norrath. I doubt Kithikor Forest is gonna get enough people to have multiple "instances" for people to farm the 35% reduction bag...for example.

The fact ANYONE has the opportunity to camp 6 things at once destroys the server from the start.

[radda]

yea i bet you got them DSLs

Fucking a, dslr...
And yessss

[nhdjoseywales]

What I care about it people hogging content.

This "instance" thing only solves high end raiding. It does nothing for named mobs around all of Norrath. I doubt Kithikor Forest is gonna get enough people to have multiple "instances" for people to farm the 35% reduction bag...for example.

The fact ANYONE has the opportunity to camp 6 things at once destroys the server from the start.

Jesus you are fucking stupid. You have been told repeatedly by people that actually play on these servers that it is nothing like you imagine in your warped little brain. There is literally no one doing what you are describing. You also are taking a p99 mentality to a live server and thats wrong to start with. So fucking what if there was a 6 boxer trying to monopolize several camps. Mobs dont belong to him, he cant get you in trouble for dps racing him and winning. If you think you deserve it more than him, take it. quit being a fucking nancyboy hiding behind some bullshit ruleset and petitionquest.

[Swish]

Jesus you are fucking stupid. You have been told repeatedly by people that actually play on these servers that it is nothing like you imagine in your warped little brain. There is literally no one doing what you are describing. You also are taking a p99 mentality to a live server and thats wrong to start with. So fucking what if there was a 6 boxer trying to monopolize several camps. Mobs dont belong to him, he cant get you in trouble for dps racing him and winning. If you think you deserve it more than him, take it. quit being a fucking nancyboy hiding behind some bullshit ruleset and petitionquest.

Rather than educate him you go for insults. Is that the mentality on the TLPs? I see.

[Bubbles]

99/100 angry comments in these threads seem to be from people staying on p99.

No one is forcing anyone to do anything. Relaaaaaaaaaaax.

Agnarr is an unknown quantity. Claiming its better or worse than p99 is purely speculative at best.

People are acting like taking a month to check out something else going on would be the end of the world. And that's silly, too.

If you want the convuluted circular logic : those claiming instances aren't 'classic' need to use the basis that instancing would bypass the google hangouts.... the mario kart.. the alt tabbing.. the FTE.... you know.. all the.. *cough* classic things that make the p99 end game what it is.

Phinny did not kill p99. Agnarr won't either.

[Andos]

What I care about it people hogging content.

This "instance" thing only solves high end raiding. It does nothing for named mobs around all of Norrath. I doubt Kithikor Forest is gonna get enough people to have multiple "instances" for people to farm the 35% reduction bag...for example.

The fact ANYONE has the opportunity to camp 6 things at once destroys the server from the start.

Shralok pack is 25% reduction noob not 35%.

[Xzavie]

I've never played on Phinny but let me tell you EXACTLY what is going on over there!!!!!

Also

Boxing is classic AF

[nhdjoseywales]

I've never played on Phinny but let me tell you EXACTLY what is going on over there!!!!!

Also

Boxing is classic AF

right?

I boxed warrior/cleric back in the day on two comps in diff rooms on dial up. I would literally run to the other room and hit CH when the warrior needed a heal then run back.

[Squabbles123]

Jesus you are fucking stupid. You have been told repeatedly by people that actually play on these servers that it is nothing like you imagine in your warped little brain. There is literally no one doing what you are describing. You also are taking a p99 mentality to a live server and thats wrong to start with. So fucking what if there was a 6 boxer trying to monopolize several camps. Mobs dont belong to him, he cant get you in trouble for dps racing him and winning. If you think you deserve it more than him, take it. quit being a fucking nancyboy hiding behind some bullshit ruleset and petitionquest.


Hey, go fuck yourself you piece of dog shit.

[Squabbles123]

Jesus you are fucking stupid. You have been told repeatedly by people that actually play on these servers that it is nothing like you imagine in your warped little brain. There is literally no one doing what you are describing. You also are taking a p99 mentality to a live server and thats wrong to start with. So fucking what if there was a 6 boxer trying to monopolize several camps. Mobs dont belong to him, he cant get you in trouble for dps racing him and winning. If you think you deserve it more than him, take it. quit being a fucking nancyboy hiding behind some bullshit ruleset and petitionquest.

Hey, go fuck yourself you piece of dog shit.


Also, I saw a tweet the DAY this server was announced about dude going to buy 6 laptops to 6-box, so yeah, it DOES go on.

Fuck you, please die.

[nhdjoseywales]

Hey, go fuck yourself you piece of dog shit.


Also, I saw a tweet the DAY this server was announced about dude going to buy 6 laptops to 6-box, so yeah, it DOES go on.

Fuck you, please die.

Lol u mad bro?

So you saw a picture on the internet and based your reality around that instead of eyewitness accounts from people who have actually played there for the past year and a half. Sounds solid.

Then when repeatedly confronted with testimony countering your speculative claims you double down and just lie.

Donald, is that you?

[Pokesan]

just take the win, don't rub his nose in it :)

[nhdjoseywales]

just take the win, don't rub his nose in it :)

You're right. My bad. Act like you been here before son is echoing in my head.

[Bruno]

Hey I got an idea. Go play Phinigel for a week and count how many 6 boxers you run into. Report back here with your findings. Until then shut your fucking mouth cause it's very clear you have no idea what you're talking about.

Who cares if a hand full of ignoramuses think phinny and agnarr are just a bunch of boxers not interacting with each other? Phinny did just fine without them and so will Agnarr.

[Maner]

Lol u mad bro?

So you saw a picture on the internet and based your reality around that instead of eyewitness accounts from people who have actually played there for the past year and a half. Sounds solid.

Then when repeatedly confronted with testimony countering your speculative claims you double down and just lie.

Donald, is that you?

did you see the thread on the daybreak EQ forums of the guy with 24 computers, keyboards, monitors, and mice in his garage?

[nostalgiaquest]

There going to be any issues playing Agnarr on a mac? P99 has great instructions for setting up wineskin, but I'm pretty illiterate in these processes so I'd need a similar idiots guide.

[Swish]

did you see the thread on the daybreak EQ forums of the guy with 24 computers, keyboards, monitors, and mice in his garage?

I can only imagine how immersed he must be. If anyone has a link that would be worth a look :D

[nhdjoseywales]

did you see the thread on the daybreak EQ forums of the guy with 24 computers, keyboards, monitors, and mice in his garage?

Not possible to box that many without third party software which will earn you a ban from a true box TLP. Anytime we see someone with multiple mages casting at once they get reported and vanish.

[nhdjoseywales]

There going to be any issues playing Agnarr on a mac? P99 has great instructions for setting up wineskin, but I'm pretty illiterate in these processes so I'd need a similar idiots guide.

dont think there is a native mac client

[Mead]

Not possible to box that many without third party software which will earn you a ban from a true box TLP. Anytime we see someone with multiple mages casting at once they get reported and vanish.

Kind of like Vmas from OGC with his group of mage boxes?

[Daldaen]

The full group EXP bonus penalizes people for soloing or for not filling out their group. You lose out on EXP the smaller your group is even if the kill rate doesn't increase (which it will).

While I think it is dumb, it's even more dumb for people to rail on boxes making the game unsocial on these servers when nothing could be further from the truth. People WANT you in their group. Class, level, race or gear doesn't matter. They benefit from inviting you. Because of pick zones also its rare that zones won't have a slot for you in a group. While in Unrest there's only 1-2 camps that a level 20ish character could find a group, on Agnarr expect there to be about 5-6 picks of Unrest so 10-12 camps open for grouping in that level range.

That's why those who box 2-3 are irrelevant and the extreme minority who Box 4-6 really don't inhibit your gameplay at all.

[nhdjoseywales]

Kind of like Vmas from OGC with his group of mage boxes?

/shrugs

Vmas hasn't been on a raid in over a month, not sure if he has logged on. I remember he had some mages, I don't know how he controlled them. I don't think he brought them to raids. The anti box code disconnects you if it detects multiple simultaneous keystroke coming from accounts logged in with the same ip. This happens sometimes to people who are actually using hands on multiple keyboards. Maybe you can use multiple VPN to get around this but it seems like a lot of work.

[Mead]

If only all the people here that never played Phinigel knew how truly rare this kind of thing is. I've grouped with Vmas on several occasions. He had like 2 or 3 mages he almost always boxed outside group for extra dps in his groups. I'm fairly certain he used something like these:

http://i.imgur.com/xmDrXB8.jpg

one for each of his mages and just had macros to /assist his main and send pet/nuke and just manually tapped each one. I fail to see how this negatively impacts anyone else. Every time I was with him his mages were outside the group so not taking up any potential xp spots for randoms. All it did was give the group some extra dmg. Pickzones prevent complete monopolization of exp zones so its not like he was killing so many mobs with his mages that you couldn't get any mobs in your preferred xp zone. What's the big deal? Seems like a case of "Someone else is playing in a way I don't like CALL THE VIDEO GAME POLICE!"

My post was more about hypocrisy within his own guild than personally caring about how Vmas boxed his toons. So settle down hoss and take your meds. You get easily rustled. I could care less if Vmas was boxing mages in every zone on Phinny.

[JurisDictum]

EQ isn't a PvP game. Your supposed to beat the game content. It was never intended for everyone playing the game to race to the content at once. Your not supposed to have to beat everyone else to get your sword.

I loved playing on p99 for most of it. But this confusion over EQ as a PvE game wears on me. If instancing makes EQ easy -- then that's because EQ is an easy game. Keeping it "difficult" by cockblocking most the population is a waste of my time.

[Swish]

EQ isn't a PvP game. Your supposed to beat the game content.

You can apply that to WoW and just about any other MMORPG, and you'd also be wrong. There's no better variable in online gaming than fighting a human opponent.

If you prefer fighting predictable AI in MMOs and MOBAs you're half the gamer you think you are.

[AzzarTheGod]

EQ isn't a PvP game. Your supposed to beat the game content. It was never intended for everyone playing the game to race to the content at once. Your not supposed to have to beat everyone else to get your sword.

I loved playing on p99 for most of it. But this confusion over EQ as a PvE game wears on me. If instancing makes EQ easy -- then that's because EQ is an easy game. Keeping it "difficult" by cockblocking most the population is a waste of my time.

woke. the nerds want to play PvE as a PvP game, it was never designed that way.

[Bubbles]

EQ isn't a PvP game. Your supposed to beat the game content. It was never intended for everyone playing the game to race to the content at once. Your not supposed to have to beat everyone else to get your sword.

I loved playing on p99 for most of it. But this confusion over EQ as a PvE game wears on me. If instancing makes EQ easy -- then that's because EQ is an easy game. Keeping it "difficult" by cockblocking most the population is a waste of my time.

Intelligent and concise.

[Swiftyfist]

the word rustled is so trendy on these forums *puke* lol no i really did just throw up. But to stay on topic...i cant wait too see all the fools hyping this up rush back to p99 after realizing the revamped shit is garbage :P

[Beastagoog]

http://i.imgur.com/2apXKr0.png


Rofl. Such a good troll.

[shuklak]

I'm coming for agnarr too!

How hard isit to run a De to qeynos?

[AzzarTheGod]

imma b agnarr till i dizzzzz-I

[Bones]

The devs constantly did everything they could to squelch this idea that the endgame of EQ was some kind of competition, up to the point of instancing everything when it became apparent that the players were going to be assholes to each other no matter what if they could.

Anyone who thinks to the contrary has no idea what they are talking about.

nothing upsets me more than to know that casual players are enjoying end game content on a private server of emulated 17 year old content

[Dulu]

#1 - It's so easy to install. It takes about 30 seconds. You don't need to mess with any files, just www.everquest.com and install

#2 - When everyone leave P99, maybe they will finally launch a p99 teams pvp or fresh blue server to try to bring people back.

[Lhancelot]

#2 - When everyone leave P99, maybe they will finally launch a p99 teams pvp or fresh blue server to try to bring people back.

This is wishful thinking man. Even on eq1 in its heyday, when PVP was most popular for eq1, it wasn't popular. If you get my meaning here.

I played RZ, SZ, Zek. Even I recognize that this ship has sailed, long ago. PVP on any p99 server will not "bring people back."

The best thing for them to do, is create a new p99 PVE server here.

[Lhancelot]

Sorry Dulu I missed the "or start a fresh blue" server part in your post.

I agree with that, I think that's the best shot they got at drawing older players who left p99, and bringing in new players who want to try a new game but not start on a server that has been established for 5+ years as p99 blue is.

[Daldaen]

P99 should just roll two new servers. Rotation/Friendly play and Neckbeard server.

A single server would just lead to neckbeards poopsocking Manastones and Guises 24/7 with the intent of eventually poopsocking the raid content.

Need to split up the servers with clear rules so that the different play styles separate themselves out.

[Nirgon]

No new servers allowed btw

[Raest]

From the Agnarr FAQ:

"Q: I Died But All of My Items Stayed With Me. Is This a Bug?

No, you no longer have to find your corpse in order to retrieve your items if you die. If you are level 6 or above, though, you did lose experience and you can be resurrected to restore a portion of that experience."

Curious changes indeed....