Rygar
03-22-2018, 12:07 AM
I'd like to call to attention the Druid Velious quested armor, PoM crafted armor, and 2nd Floor PoH drops for fashion purposes. Some are correct and some aren't, just doing the full recap here.
THURGADIN QUESTED ARMOR:
This should not be green but look exactly like the Tizmak armor.
Evidence:
EQ Developer Corner patch message (June 27th, 2001) (http://web.archive.org/web/20021026020319/http://boards.station.sony.com:80/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000228.html):
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- Druid Skyshrine Quest armor has had a color change so that it will look more unique.
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The skyshrine armor already had a more unique look. The Thurgadin armor all looked like Tizmak. Is this a typo, or is only the Skyshrine armor changed?
Skyshrine, Thurgadin and Tizmak all had similar looks for the druid armor. We wanted the Skyshrine stuff to be more distinctive.
Actually, the Thurgadin and Tizmak (and ulthork) armors aren't "similar", they are identical. The Skyshrine armor was similar in that it was a dark brown tinted tizmak. The new change to Skyshrine stuff is great, we love it =) But is there any way to get the Thurgadin armor changed a bit, even to what the old Skyshrine color was? I know druids are used to running around looking like they are in leather, its been our lot in life for over 2 years, but as it is now, a lvl 60 druid in full Thurg armor looks exactly like they are wearing cheap tizmak off lvl 30 mobs. Gear of this level should at least look like more than plain (velious) leather!
Nope, we're not going to change them.
For reference, here is what Tizmak should look like (I think it is freaking sweet, only legs/BP/Arms are tizmak here):
Tizmak Armor (https://web.archive.org/web/20021121171506/http://valorguard.members.easyspace.com:80/Photos/Valshea/Tizmak_armour.jpg)
Here is some confirmation that the Rowyl`s Thurgadin quested armor never changed in era to a green color and was exact same as Tizmak:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4127
Mar 08 2001 at 7:41 AM
They look Just like Ulthork and Tizmat 8( what a bummer! something this Nice seems like could try and make a lil more Impressive looking.
Aug 15 2002 at 2:28 PM
These used to look like normal leather, but as of yesterday's patch these are now bright green.
I checked the 8/14/2002 patch message and wasn't mentioned, so stealth update.
SKYSHRINE QUESTED ARMOR:
On the 6/27/2001 patch the Skyshrine quested druid armor line changed to the green tint look to be more distinctive. The previous poster mentioned it was a dark brown look before then, I believe this picture shows a druid wearing Skyshrine legs and a Thurg BP. Photo is dated 6/5/2001 so it fits the fashion timeline (hopefully you incorporate fashionquest changes into refresh server!):
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2001-06-05/abru_swimming.jpg
I'm pretty sure the current tint you have is correct according to ZAM:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5180&p=2#comments
KAEL QUESTED ARMOR:
For the Kael quested armor (Nature Walker's) it should be more of a dark / forest green, I don't recall it looking as such on P99, but I could be wrong. Evidence:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4961
#Mar 17 2001 at 10:41 PM
So this looks like dark green Tizmak or Ulthork Hide? ARGH!
Apr 15 2001 at 2:32 PM
And the green looks great on Halfelfs :)
I can probably dig up a picture if you want, but can probably use the ZAM tint values.
PLANE OF HATE 2nd FLOOR DROPS:
Since we're FashionQuesting here, additional picture shows what I believe is a Thurg BP for additional reference, but the new Druid armor in 2nd Floor PoH. In the main archives he links the Greaves of Harmony and shows the druid wearing them. Post is dated 3/15/2001:
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2001-03-15/nizz_greaves.jpg
Saw nothing to suggest druid PoH armor changed appearance in era. I believe this is showing Velious Leather 1 instead of Velious Leather 2 like the other (I don't really know the difference, just noted that on ZAM. Don't even know what P99 has on this armor set really, maybe you have it correct).
PLANE OF MISCHIEF ARMOR:
This actually is what started me looking into what these armors should look like, the druid PoM set is said to be Pink according to this open bug report here (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262953&highlight=pink) (Bravo Illix! solid find).
The tint value is listed there, and in era comment on the BP:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6357
Aug 17 2001 at 8:21 AM
I just made my Twisted Nature Chestguard. Awesome stats but how shall I describe it...
It's basically the tizmak/thurg bp design. However, the basic brown color has been tinted pink. Yes, that's right, PINK. UGH. What in the world was Verant thinking when they dreamed this up?
Pink druid armor would be amazing! Top priority.
FASHIONQUEST RECAP:
Thurg quested armor = Tizmak look / color
Skyshrine quested armor = RGB(0,100,100) after 6/26/2001, color match to photo prior to 6/27/2001. Both Velious Leather 2
Kael quested armor = RGB(0,130,80), Velious Leather 2
PoH dropped armor = RGB(50,220,150), Velious Leather 1 (verify color to photo)
PoM crafted armor = RGB(200,130,180), Velious Leather 2
THURGADIN QUESTED ARMOR:
This should not be green but look exactly like the Tizmak armor.
Evidence:
EQ Developer Corner patch message (June 27th, 2001) (http://web.archive.org/web/20021026020319/http://boards.station.sony.com:80/ubb/everquest/Forum1/HTML/000228.html):
***
- Druid Skyshrine Quest armor has had a color change so that it will look more unique.
***
The skyshrine armor already had a more unique look. The Thurgadin armor all looked like Tizmak. Is this a typo, or is only the Skyshrine armor changed?
Skyshrine, Thurgadin and Tizmak all had similar looks for the druid armor. We wanted the Skyshrine stuff to be more distinctive.
Actually, the Thurgadin and Tizmak (and ulthork) armors aren't "similar", they are identical. The Skyshrine armor was similar in that it was a dark brown tinted tizmak. The new change to Skyshrine stuff is great, we love it =) But is there any way to get the Thurgadin armor changed a bit, even to what the old Skyshrine color was? I know druids are used to running around looking like they are in leather, its been our lot in life for over 2 years, but as it is now, a lvl 60 druid in full Thurg armor looks exactly like they are wearing cheap tizmak off lvl 30 mobs. Gear of this level should at least look like more than plain (velious) leather!
Nope, we're not going to change them.
For reference, here is what Tizmak should look like (I think it is freaking sweet, only legs/BP/Arms are tizmak here):
Tizmak Armor (https://web.archive.org/web/20021121171506/http://valorguard.members.easyspace.com:80/Photos/Valshea/Tizmak_armour.jpg)
Here is some confirmation that the Rowyl`s Thurgadin quested armor never changed in era to a green color and was exact same as Tizmak:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4127
Mar 08 2001 at 7:41 AM
They look Just like Ulthork and Tizmat 8( what a bummer! something this Nice seems like could try and make a lil more Impressive looking.
Aug 15 2002 at 2:28 PM
These used to look like normal leather, but as of yesterday's patch these are now bright green.
I checked the 8/14/2002 patch message and wasn't mentioned, so stealth update.
SKYSHRINE QUESTED ARMOR:
On the 6/27/2001 patch the Skyshrine quested druid armor line changed to the green tint look to be more distinctive. The previous poster mentioned it was a dark brown look before then, I believe this picture shows a druid wearing Skyshrine legs and a Thurg BP. Photo is dated 6/5/2001 so it fits the fashion timeline (hopefully you incorporate fashionquest changes into refresh server!):
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2001-06-05/abru_swimming.jpg
I'm pretty sure the current tint you have is correct according to ZAM:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=5180&p=2#comments
KAEL QUESTED ARMOR:
For the Kael quested armor (Nature Walker's) it should be more of a dark / forest green, I don't recall it looking as such on P99, but I could be wrong. Evidence:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=4961
#Mar 17 2001 at 10:41 PM
So this looks like dark green Tizmak or Ulthork Hide? ARGH!
Apr 15 2001 at 2:32 PM
And the green looks great on Halfelfs :)
I can probably dig up a picture if you want, but can probably use the ZAM tint values.
PLANE OF HATE 2nd FLOOR DROPS:
Since we're FashionQuesting here, additional picture shows what I believe is a Thurg BP for additional reference, but the new Druid armor in 2nd Floor PoH. In the main archives he links the Greaves of Harmony and shows the druid wearing them. Post is dated 3/15/2001:
http://legacyofsteel.net/archives/2001-03-15/nizz_greaves.jpg
Saw nothing to suggest druid PoH armor changed appearance in era. I believe this is showing Velious Leather 1 instead of Velious Leather 2 like the other (I don't really know the difference, just noted that on ZAM. Don't even know what P99 has on this armor set really, maybe you have it correct).
PLANE OF MISCHIEF ARMOR:
This actually is what started me looking into what these armors should look like, the druid PoM set is said to be Pink according to this open bug report here (https://www.project1999.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262953&highlight=pink) (Bravo Illix! solid find).
The tint value is listed there, and in era comment on the BP:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=6357
Aug 17 2001 at 8:21 AM
I just made my Twisted Nature Chestguard. Awesome stats but how shall I describe it...
It's basically the tizmak/thurg bp design. However, the basic brown color has been tinted pink. Yes, that's right, PINK. UGH. What in the world was Verant thinking when they dreamed this up?
Pink druid armor would be amazing! Top priority.
FASHIONQUEST RECAP:
Thurg quested armor = Tizmak look / color
Skyshrine quested armor = RGB(0,100,100) after 6/26/2001, color match to photo prior to 6/27/2001. Both Velious Leather 2
Kael quested armor = RGB(0,130,80), Velious Leather 2
PoH dropped armor = RGB(50,220,150), Velious Leather 1 (verify color to photo)
PoM crafted armor = RGB(200,130,180), Velious Leather 2